Posted in androidcentral and went no where this seems to be a better site for this sort of thing. Transitioning from the Palm Pre Sprint to the Evo. Saw some Pre to / Evo4G threads but none have the info I need. Couple of questions hopefully someone can answer. I already rooted the EVO with the AC rom also nandroid with cm6 (the Pre basically comes already rooted just enter konami code and reboot). Hopefully these answers can help others later on too.
It allows to to make/end calls, send sms, open apps, reboot, change wallpaper, turn GPS on and off, get phone coordinates, turn leds/vibrator on. In short basically every function the phone does can be triggered remotely via ssh.
Nothing that will let you mess with people on command line if your phone is lost or stolen but lookout and prey are good apps for locating your phone.
OpenSSH server?
There is an app in the market but the lack of libraries, optware and physicial keyboard really make this a bad phone to use the command line in. Tunneling in or out is also a lost cause a vpn would be the best bet for this.
DDNS?
There is an app which is pretty nice but haven't found a good http server like the Pre so there is really no need for it.
Http server? My pre had a webserver with php. When I went to a page the Pre called its location and displayed a google maps page. I would prefer if theres no app so if I lose my phone theres nothing that can be easily uninstalled or turned off. Also good for hosting files locally.
Haven't found a replacement for this.
You can do Ubuntu chroot on the Evo but with no xserver it lags and is not a good experience.
Is there a third party app for homebrew mods like preware or cydia? Android market is more open than apple or palms so every app you can find there no alternative needed. Although sometimes you can find apks in threads for apps that are not in the market yet just put them in your sd card and browse with a file manager to install these.
Is there a way to download your sms database file like the iphone or pre ? Haven't found out where they are saved but plenty of apps to backup texts to either sd or gmail so no need to go searching for them.
I do have the script that installs optware on the Pre I tried doing the commands manually but failed. Haven't given up yet just havent had time since after midterms it will be on top of the list. Is there anyone with alot of experience with android that might also want to try this. It is a shell (.sh) script but I changed the extension to txt so I could upload it.
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So I need to know what the consequences are of removing market from the phone? The reason I ask is we are getting ready to issue these out as corporate phones, and other than the software we have on them, we don't want any additional software installed. The obvious easiest way is to just remove market, unless there is some app that can restrict market. I know that we will lose the ability to update apps, but other than that I don't see much else. The last thing I need is for them to download rogue software and charge up the company accounts. Thanks!
A better thing to do will be to block any new installations by some kind of administrator access rather than take out market. Taking out market is not at all harmful nor does it interfere with anything.
If i were you and I had to seriously limit the applications on the phone then I would at least find an app on market that can install only after putting in a password or someting like that. Uninstalling market will not do any good. People can still install by putting in an apk file to their sd card.
Ideally that would be the way that I would do it. Under Windows Mobile I could. Under Android..... I haven't found an app that's capable of doing so. I suppose I could start getting in and changing permissions on folders through root, but I really don't want to go down that road. I know they can search and download apps otherwise than the app market, but it removing the temptation that helps. You know how users can be.
You will need to rely on google then. Here is a sample of what might help you.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Android-Parental-Control-App/123629131031273
Hope you find many more apps like these.
I saw that earlier, but its almost too Draconian. The hand holding Android would upset many of the Adult employees. Laughing. I think I may have found another way around it though. Remove the obvious Apps, but then I found an app called Droid wall which you can use to interface with IP tables to block access to market. They can view market, but you can't download. This prevents using the marketplace as well as trying to load from a website. It's password protected so it can be turned off easy enough if needed. It doesn't prevent side-loading the apps but I'm not to worried about my users doing that. If they do, it proves obvious intent to bypass company policy. Hoping this works.
I own an HTC INCREDIBLE and I've been told to "root" my phone to get rid of all the bloatware. What is rooting and how do I do it? A lot of my apps and all of my music and all photos are saved to my mem card. There are some HTC apps I would actually like to keep. Also, is there anyway I could get swipe on my phone?
Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.
Thanks so much. I'll check it out!
Just a few newbie tips for you.
I'm new to all of this also.....rooting and flashing.
1. Read a lot before you do anything. Its not hard but readup first!
2. Be patient......2 or 3 times while I have rooted or flashed I have thought that maybe my phone is dead. Sometimes there is no visible indication that the phone is actually doing what you want it to do. Let it sit there and do its thing. DO NOT PANIC and pull the battery!
3. Backup backup backup backup BACKUP!
Have fun.....I am
wildland said:
Yep - you can root your phone to get rid of bloatware and allow you to do all sorts of other things, basically, rooting the phone allows you to be the administrator of your phone, whereas now you just have a user account on it ... As for how to root, that's been done a lot of different ways and is explained in a number of places - you should read several how-tos so you'll have an idea of what you're getting yourself into (and whether you want to bother)... The contents of your memory card should be safe, but you should back them up anyway, since memory cards do fail during normal use. Simply rooting won't automatically remove any of your apps, so your good there, but it will give you the ability to remove apps, or even break (or even "brick") your phone, so take it easy and don't take any steps 'till you understand what you're about to do.
Here are some resources you can check out :
Ok, actually I'm not allowed to be helpful by posting links since I'm a new member, but google these terms: root droid incredible Jonamerica - that'll get you started...
As for swype the legit way to get it is to sign up for their beta (it's available on their website which I can't link you to) and go from there.
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Thank you for this search link. Guide is very helpful, fills in alot of the blanks I've been having.
You're welcome.
There are numerous other guides and threads out there, so googling and reading is a good idea... I just researched it again since I rooted my wife's Inc. last night and since it has an SLCD screen I wanted to make sure that unrevoked had been updated to work with these screens - turns out it has and it worked fine. I actually had a scary moment when the phone wouldn't boot into recovery (five vibrations and a blank screen) but a google search and a battery pull saved me and so far so good since then - and I was able to uninstall verizon's backup assistant which was killing her battery every day.
Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.
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Is that the only reason you rooted your wife's phone, was to remove some of the bloat? I might end up doing the same.
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Yeah, that was the main reason - when she upgraded from her dumbphone, we used Backup Assistant to transfer her numbers over, but lately it's been hanging during sync and killing her battery (and/or it may be syncing over the poor 1x data connection rather than available wifi - not sure about that but it sounds like something Verizon would do (it would both be a bit more secure, and use more data they could bill us for)). Since Verizon in all their wisdom made it so you can't uninstall that app or disassociate it from your account, I figured the I'd use force and just root the phone - worked too, now her battery's lasting all day, no problem.
I also would recommend rooting to anyone concerned about certain apps wanting internet permissions - DroidWall is a great app allowing you to prevent apps from accessing the internet (or you can block just wifi or just 3g for a specific app, potentially allowing you to better manage your data usage).
make sure to read alot about what ur getting into.. And remember to always backup before you do anything (incase of errors/problems) you can always boot back to stock...happy rootin!
Check this out: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones.
That guide is specific to Cyanogenmod, and it's a little outdated, but it's a good starting point to learn what applications are required for the phone to run, and which applications are simply "extra."
Hey, well yesterday I got a notification saying "supercharge UR battery". I was pretty sceptical but I clicked on it not realising it would go to a website and apparently that website then downloads and installs something automatically that allows them to clone your contact etc, even your IMEI and they can put your number to go through premium calls to get money out of you.
Either way I need to know how to get rid of this. It's just come up again so I'm presuming it didn't install properly for them or something. It came just after I updated all my apps yesterday but I don't know which one would have caused it.
Do we think a full wipe and reinstall might do it?
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shocker that AVG antivirus didn't find anything. I've been looking through my apps, deleted some I don't use but none of them stand out as being dodgy, I don't even have many.
What makes you think it's cloning your device?
Are you sure it's not just a push notification advert, from something like airpush?
Remove all recent apps that you've installed since you started getting them, and when they stop install them one by one, seeing if they cause the notifications. Check all permissions very carefully.
If you are seriously worried, full wipe and start again but there shouldn't be a need for that.
That sounds slightly unlikely; not that there's malware out there that can do that sort of thing (there is), but that you can acquire it simply by visiting a site and somehow bypassing all the usual application access authorisations. All the instances I've heard of require an app to be installed (and access granted) which then runs off and does all this in the background. So if you could post your source for that it would be a great help.
(As to the "supercharge your battery" ad, I've definitely seen that somewhere recently as well, but I can't think where. In an app, but I'm struggling to think what it could have been. I just ignored it as per any other ad that sneaks past the hosts file).
If you're really worried then a full wipe would get rid of anything actually on your phone, but I'm not yet convinced that's necessary.
Edit: just noticed you said "notification" not "ad". Try downloading something like Airpush Detector from the market; sounds like you've got an app using Airpush to show ads in your notification area. Again, that's not necessarily something to be particularly concerned about (irritating though it is).
Edit2: curses, beaten to it while I was writing all this on my phone. Must learn to be more concise.
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
Well I've been going through my apps and there isn't a single one in there that you would ever consider to be dodgy as I just stick to the main ones. I don't bother downloading games or anything like that.
Surely if it's just an ad I'd be able to find said app on the market place, but I can't. In fact google finds nothing for "supercharge UR battery".
I'll try airpush detector. Cheers.
Ok so airpush detector says:
Mysettings
jqsoft.apps.mysettings
Checked out the app on the market and turns out the update added airpush to it. Way to kill your market. I guess they want people to go "pro".
Cheers guys!
Im using a HTC 10 (EU variant). Today i was scrolling through "Netguard" (if you dont know it, its an app to prevent other apps from internet access), since i configured it to show system apps it displays way more apps than the normal app overview in the settings. In there i found an app called "RootPA" and one called "root", which seems strange since i didnt unlock the bootloader or root on my own. The details in the RootPA entry say "com.gd.mobicore.pa", no idea if thats helpfull to determine the origin of this mysterious app.
Can you help me with this?
Did you Google it?
I did, but the results were not realy usefull. I found someone with a modded Galaxy S3 who deleted a RootPA on accident and broke stuff, but that ssems unrelated. Are there any things i could do to find out more about the app installed on my phone without root?
I cant say its something I've ever seen. If this person in the past removed it, and it broke stuff, that would suggest that it may have been a system app and he was rooted. From what I managed to find on google, it is part of a security suite (mobicore) used by networks to monitor what the state of the phone is, presumably incase something happens, and it was the user fault, and they know for a fact because they have logs of what the phone has done.
[ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE] Allows applications to access information about networks
[INTERNET] Allows applications to open network sockets. (i.e send information)
[READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE] Allows an application to read from external storage.
[READ_PHONE_STATE] Allows read only access to phone state.
A friend of mine got his HTC 10 2 days ago, ill ask him to look for this app. Its unlikely we would have the same virus/whatever installed.
Edit: He just reseted his 10 (due to missing language options, but thats another topic), but still found "root" and "rootPA" on his phone, so its preinstalled (although i still dont understand whats its purpose).
RootPA is provides service for provisioning secure applications that run on ARM trustzone and t-base OS (formerly mobicore). It is preinstalled in some vendors Android devices (search for this string on the internet: htc-devices-to-incorporate-trustonic-t-base-tee), but mostly unused as far as I know. The source code of some versions is available on the Internet (e.g. on github /Faryaab/android_hardware_samsung_slsi_exynos5410/tree/master/mobicore/rootpa).
It has nothing to to with rooting or unrooting the device.
PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do
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PA route is very dangerous I had some I have somebody who has hacked into my phone through this particular program so to speak I have a lot of issues right now with my phone trying to get them off of my phone and this seems to be the root cause or the start of it have anybody knows how I can clear my phone and my Ram from the Vicious hacker I appreciate it I'm tired of being watched and recorded everything I do
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PA route..... .rootPA ......2 different things. Hacked ? Unlikely, I think some OCD is kicking in. Want to be clean? RUU the device and do not restore anything
I'm looking for a good, stable ROM without features for my son. He is constantly getting himself in trouble with getting on the internet, creating accounts on eBay, buying/selling trading with people he doesn't know, etc. I've tried getting him a "feature phone" (the re-released Nokia 3110), but that still has a browser, and even 8 calls to T-Mobile hasn't resulted in getting the data shut off (seriously, how hard can that be?).
So now I'm thinking of just giving him back his OP3, wiped, with nothing on it except exactly what he needs. We use MMGuardian as a parent app, which should let me know if he tries to sideload an APK or something, but I was looking for a good, clean ROM as a starting point.
I've also heard there was a free/open source Android monitoring tool out there... but I can't remember the name. If anyone knows that also, it would be really helpful.
Thanks!
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I'm looking for a good, stable ROM without features for my son. He is constantly getting himself in trouble with getting on the internet, creating accounts on eBay, buying/selling trading with people he doesn't know, etc. I've tried getting him a "feature phone" (the re-released Nokia 3110), but that still has a browser, and even 8 calls to T-Mobile hasn't resulted in getting the data shut off (seriously, how hard can that be?).
So now I'm thinking of just giving him back his OP3, wiped, with nothing on it except exactly what he needs. We use MMGuardian as a parent app, which should let me know if he tries to sideload an APK or something, but I was looking for a good, clean ROM as a starting point.
I've also heard there was a free/open source Android monitoring tool out there... but I can't remember the name. If anyone knows that also, it would be really helpful.
Thanks!
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Dirty Unicorns is the most basic you will find I guess.
You have to add phone, mail, browser, messenger etc... yourself because even basic AOSP apps are not included.
Perfect for a lean start.
Other option is to take for example LOS and remove the stuff you do not want (see also this post).
It might be hard as in today's world, you really can't keep him off the internet unless you configure a guest account for him to login that you can disable at any time. Additionally, you can also try LineageOS or NLOS or any other rom WITHOUT flashing gapps. That way, he will have no play store and no access to google apps to do anything with. If he has to use a sim in it, i think he'll find a way around to access mobile data so really all you can do is to monitor if he ever installs a web browser. The beauty of custom ROM is that you can make it as barebone as you could but if your primary concern is keeping him off unwanted apps, you really have to rely on an app that monitors his phone or check his phone daily.