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okay so heres my situation -- im new to smartphones/ppc and i got an HTC Fuze for christmas this year. I really love the phone but its obviously slow / crammed with ATT bull**** and I'd like a custom ROM.
I've been haggling with this for a while now and reading for the past few days. I downloaded Raphaels HARDspl v1.90 and installed it onto my phone. I want to put Duttys V3.6b Final ROM on my phone now but I cant get it to work. it says the update utility doesnt work or something of that nature.
I've obviously screwed up and I really just want to know what I need to do to get this fixed and running. I'm not necessarily concerned with flashing tons of different ROMs as i just want one that speeds up my device and has some key software. I dont even know if that ROM is the best one out to date, but from what I've seen it appears that way.
All in all I'm just asking for help now...I've been reluctant to make this post because I see a lot of people here wanting others to hold their hands step-by-step, but after hours and days of searching forums on here / PPCgeeks I just dont know what to do.
Thanks, Jeff
Shouldn't you be in the Raphael section downloading ROMS instead of using diamond ROMS?
i dont know whats the difference is raphael another type of phone? did i royally screw up????
Malweran said:
Shouldn't you be in the Raphael section downloading ROMS instead of using diamond ROMS?
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nice one
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i dont know whats the difference is raphael another type of phone? did i royally screw up????
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yep sorry to say but this is definitley the wrong forum as far as i know the raphael rom is competley differnet from the diamond but correct me if im wrong
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i dont know whats the difference is raphael another type of phone? did i royally screw up????
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fuze = raphael
theres like 10 different names for the same model phone
can someone tell me what i should be doing with my HTC Fuze from ATT???
please goto the right rom thread
you have a real keyboard....we don't..... don't flash a diamond rom....
you "may" break your phone
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i dont know whats the difference is raphael another type of phone? did i royally screw up????
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I guess next time if you search for a ROM on this forum you could search the right phone by looking at the picture of it in front of section.
But yeah you should be downloading ROMs from the Raphael section.
Is it possible to have windows mobile on my htc hero?
1) WHY???
2) No its not
Just wanted to test it out!
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Just wanted to test it out!
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fair enough
but nah its not possible.
I prefer burning my HTC Hero !!
what is winmo? kind of salad or what?
Im getting ready to be flamed badly for this.
I cant stand WinMo, they always promise so much but never deliver, but still i would like to test WM7 out, but i think ill try and do that in a emulator, i wouldnt put it near my Hero!!! I know you dont get the best results from a emulator, but atleast you delete it after
Though there is currently no emu available for it but check this out:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Fo...u/thread/e8e0f302-18c2-4f90-b239-3e4dbcf771b9
Else google
trade it for the topaz
i am sure there are ALOT of people happy to trade you
dont be fanboys is a valid question...
i am curious about winmo7 too...not curious enough to mind about it.
to answer the question i dont think there will be a port to our device,too much work to do...really hard to do drivers,kernell,etc from scratch.
Maybe a buggy non-usable emulator,just to get the feeling of the OS.
I hate to admit it, but everyone has moved on to the HD2. They have pretty much everything working on the HD2 but there is no developers working on the Rhodium and we have no sound yet.
I really thank all the devs and everyone else involved into making Android run on our Rhodiums, but we gotta face the truth someday. It was fun and I cook WinMo ROMs for the Rhodium, but we gotta realize its dated. The only reason I still have my Rhodium is because it has a keyboard. I'm waiting for a humming bird core HTC phone with QWERTY to make the upgrade. I know some people are gonna flame. Its OK I understand you want to hold on to that Rhodium you have. We ALL do.
PS: Its sad seeing craiglisters selling Android for the HD2. I wish I could kill them all. They don't deserve any money since they did not do any of the work involved nor did they contribute ONE thing. This is why I hate scenes like the smartphone scene... People take credit for what isn't theirs.
yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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yup its dead .. now lets move on.
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LOL
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LOL
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Keep doing what you do Reefer, I am patiently waiting for the next update!
I'm getting sick of threads on this, I'm sure devs do not appreciate them either..
Why you gotta be so negative? They are doing their best they can so why don't you lock yourself in the closet and come out of there once android has been fully ported to our device
Knappad
I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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I an getting a little woried that we have reached the point of no return. It would be helpfull if the devs did post updates to let use know where we stand. I am not giving up hope just yet. I can't upgrade for quite some time and don't want to pay out the nose for something that could give me just what I am looking for.
Just want so feedback from devs to know what's up?
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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Keep up the good work. Ignore the leeches. All they do is take. They dont realize that their purpose should be to test and return feedback on the testing. Instead they seem to think that this forum is like you said, full of customer service reps. Its pathetic.
Anyhow, there are tons of people who appreciate all of the developers work and look forward to more updates.
Yea Reefer, let em have it. I wish I could help more to unlock the potential of this phone. It really is a pretty slick device that just wasn't given enough polish or muscle. I researched the purchase of it for months beforehand and don't want to just give it up now.
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Its funny, I bet there were people like you guys years ago for the Kaiser and Vogue... they work 100% now BTW. It doesnt mean people still use their Kaiser with Android for their daily phone (some do of course) but thats not what XDA is about. This used to be a strickly development forum, now its full of "gimme-gimme" users who think the OP of the thread is Customer Service.
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+1 This is essentially a hobby for these guys....
p.s. gimme-gimme
No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
OP, there is work being done on the sound issue, however it is slow going. I try following the development, but it's WAY over my head.
Reefer for president !!!
agreed its completely dead i envy all the hd2 ppl running android
You are absolutely correct very dead. You should just get HD2s and give me your TP2s.
or pre-order ur 4g Epic.. thats what i did..
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No one thinks this is CS, i flash a rom, install a kernel and it messes something up. There is no one better to ask than the devs that made the rom, right????? BOOOYEAH
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Wrong. they make a rom and put it on here for everyone. and lets say 50 people download it. and 25 of them have a problem with it. you realy thing that a dev has time to try and fix 25 peoples problems while at the same time make updates to the roms cause your demanding them? thats not how it works. if you install a rom and something goes wrong then you ask the 24 other people if any of them have had the same problem or found a fix. your a tester. if your getting the devs work for free. the least thing you could do is test it and let everyone know how it works.
Dated but not dead.
You may think its dead but for people who still own the TP2, like myself, would like to see this till the end. I still have another year with this phone before I can upgrade and I cant fork out 500+ dollars to buy a new one like the HD2 or Incredible. I'm sure there are others out there in the same situation. So just because you were able to move on with an upgrade doesn't mean its dead.
sound will be working in a matter of time acl is making head way on it over at ppcgeeks.
my gf just got this stupid little phone so now im in the process of getting it rooted and getting a rom out.
it will be some time as i dont have much free time.
i dev on the epic mostly but this should be pretty easy. so anyone that knows even a little about what their doing send me a pm so we cant get something going.
alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
isaac
I can't help, but I will say... finally.
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my gf just got this stupid little phone...alot of ppl are going to be getting this phone sense alltel was giving away that really bad excuse for an android phone the wildfire.
isaac
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I don't think it's that bad. Plus, it works on t-zones when unlocked
I will name my children after you...
They shall be called
Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
Thanks a lot for your time and your effort!
Awesome, feefeeboomboom/isaac. The flipside stinks on 2.1. There is no storage space. I really really want 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to store my apps on the SD card.
I hope it you are making progress and that you stay with your GF and that she lets you play with her phone.
Any Updates?
I'm willing to help
Never deved on an android phone before, but I'm a linux admin, and I love doing custom hacks on these things. If I can be of help, let me know. Trying to see how to get the ball rolling on setting up a CM6 version for this phone right now. I'm pretty sure with the limited hardware that this phone has, CM7 would be a huge overkill -- if it would run at all.
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I will name my children after you...
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Telegraphfeefeeboomboom
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Most awesome post ever
And yea my Gf has this phone any development would be great
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Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
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Well a cm7 ROM was just realeased for the Motorola Backflip...you really think it would be too much on the Flipside?
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Well, you caught me. I actually think it would run fine, but it is much easier to use the same kernel and just mod everything else. You can run 2.2 on 2.1 kernels, but you can't run 2.3 on 2.1 or 2.2. So, with that said, it's much easier for me to just take a current image, strip out the bloat, and give everyone a new version based on 2.2 that works out of the box than finding all the missing kernel modules for 2.3 and building it from there.
In short, I'm lazy, and I want to have a newer release out faster.
haha oh ok no sweat! Sorry wasn't tryin to call you out...just curious. Anything that can be done would be great! Hope you get something going soon!
I was thinking of maybe getting the flipside on te insurance program (from a backflip) but it seems like you guys are worse off than us. i cant seem o find source code on moto's site... do you guys know where it might be?
Any progress on a CM7 port? I just got my GF a flipside since she can't deal with on screen keyboards....and she previously had a backflip with CM7 lol
so I've been visiting recently on this and the cyanogen mod forums and it doesn't look like anyone has hit gold yet, or have I missed something somewhere and all the cool kids are having fun with their flipsides and I'm out in the lurch?
My wife too got this phone because of the keyboard...If no development comes soon...I think I might just try and sell it to whatever sucker wants to buy it and then head on over to Canada (eh?) and purchase a G2...
maybe soon...
Motorola is beta testing froyo right now. We may soon have a valid froyo image for the awesome development teams to work with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827256
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483332
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957219
I know this is a question but I'm hoping to get some help on development for this and the info I gather may be usefuluseful for other ROM development
I guess what I'm mainly asking for is someone with dev experience to help me walk through setting up my environment and getting this going, and someone who doesn't mind endless newbish questions. And possibly doing a little bit of development along side of me if I run into something I can't handle
idontwanttobeanoob said:
I guess what I'm mainly asking for is someone with dev experience to help me walk through setting up my environment and getting this going, and someone who doesn't mind endless newbish questions. And possibly doing a little bit of development along side of me if I run into something I can't handle
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I should have a disclaimer that I am not a full developer really and anything I say can and should be corrected by a real dev but I tend to know a good deal more than the average end user so therefore I try and help where I can
That said, from what I've seen from other devs getting the ROM on the device isn't that hard once you know how and assuming it's not some tricky ROM meant for a specific device (that said, MIUI is the kind of ROM that to me seems like it should be easy to get on a wide number of devices). So, if you want MIUI, it's probably best to ask for someone to port it and if it isn't too hard (I don't think it is) it's just a matter of the dev being nice enough
Teaching you to compile the ROM on your own though, may actually take a lot more time and effort. If you want to learn to make ROMs, which actually is rather easy compared to other parts of developing if you're not making your own from scratch, you could learn to do that, but it's probably better to learn the basics and go to a thread for it.
If you just want MIUI for your KF2, it's probably easiest to ask a dev to do it for you.
As always, any dev feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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I should have a disclaimer that I am not a full developer really and anything I say can and should be corrected by a real dev but I tend to know a good deal more than the average end user so therefore I try and help where I can
That said, from what I've seen from other devs getting the ROM on the device isn't that hard once you know how and assuming it's not some tricky ROM meant for a specific device (that said, MIUI is the kind of ROM that to me seems like it should be easy to get on a wide number of devices). So, if you want MIUI, it's probably best to ask for someone to port it and if it isn't too hard (I don't think it is) it's just a matter of the dev being nice enough
Teaching you to compile the ROM on your own though, may actually take a lot more time and effort. If you want to learn to make ROMs, which actually is rather easy compared to other parts of developing if you're not making your own from scratch, you could learn to do that, but it's probably better to learn the basics and go to a thread for it.
If you just want MIUI for your KF2, it's probably easiest to ask a dev to do it for you.
As always, any dev feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
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I'm actually finishing up my college work then I'm setting up my environment. I don't believe getting at least an alpha build up and running will bentha hard, I just need someone to double check my work so that no one is bricking their device due to a mistake I make
On the note of questions, is it possible to make a suitable Linux environment with the wubi installer?
Setting up Ubuntu now
base and port rom downloading now, ill keep everyone up to date with progress
Any update? para would be a nice port also! I tried but couldn't get it to boot...
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Any update? para would be a nice port also! I tried but couldn't get it to boot...
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Biggest issue I'm having is finding the tools and getting the drivers to work on Ubuntu. Its a bit of a learning curve but no worries I'll get this baby working. Also got a project I'm helping a friend with for the nook.
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Biggest issue I'm having is finding the tools and getting the drivers to work on Ubuntu. Its a bit of a learning curve but no worries I'll get this baby working. Also got a project I'm helping a friend with for the nook.
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Also what device does para run on? Easiest way to port a ROM is make sure its one that already works on a similar device ( porting miui for kindle fire to the kindle fire 2) also the ROM your trying to port should have the same screen density. The three links up top seem to be excellent sources of information
for anyone thats interested i believe im almost done with an alpha version of the port, im asking a few newbish questions as im teaching myself as i go and im gonna try to have some people take a look at what i did just to make sure theres no insta brick on flashing it.
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for anyone thats interested i believe im almost done with an alpha version of the port, im asking a few newbish questions as im teaching myself as i go and im gonna try to have some people take a look at what i did just to make sure theres no insta brick on flashing it.
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Hi mate, I'll test it! thanks for links going to check them out, I know paranoid runs on nexus 7 I will have to check
Cheers!
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Hi mate, I'll test it! thanks for links going to check them out, I know paranoid runs on nexus 7 I will have to check
Cheers!
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Once I get some help with the update script and have someone take a look at the files to see if they can see any major issues I'll upload it and send you a link. However basic disclaimer around here applies.... If the world ends etc I take no responsibility. Ie don't sue me lol. But that being said can't wait to finish this.
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Once I get some help with the update script and have someone take a look at the files to see if they can see any major issues I'll upload it and send you a link. However basic disclaimer around here applies.... If the world ends etc I take no responsibility. Ie don't sue me lol. But that being said can't wait to finish this.
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Oh wow. Nice progress! It's good to see more development around here! I'm glad you found the help you need and everything went smoothly (so far)
Best of luck!
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Oh wow. Nice progress! It's good to see more development around here! I'm glad you found the help you need and everything went smoothly (so far)
Best of luck!
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Thanks
So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
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So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
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Update script should be fairly easy just compare the base and port I guess?
I got Ubuntu set-up and I'm going to begin porting paranoid. Also don't worry I have a few test devices
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Thanks
So far I'm stuck until I can either a figure out update scripts myself or I get some help. Everything seems OK but till I can try to boot this myself I can't really tell. Also once the HD codec issue is fixed I'll be merging that, I'll also be taking suggestions for fixes.
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Oh I forgot about HD....hmmm. I am not sure how difficult patching things from other ROMs in is, but it seems like the next hascode release should fix most if not everything majorly wrong and I think that would be a better base point for building ROMs. It could be easy though and the thing is pretty damn stable. I've only ever had one issue beyond HD and re-flashing fix it so, possibly this is a good build to work off of
Yeah, it seems no one is really on right now but later they may be able to help, especially in IRC
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Update script should be fairly easy just compare the base and port I guess?
I got Ubuntu set-up and I'm going to begin porting paranoid. Also don't worry I have a few test devices
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One would assume but with semi limited knowledge on them I come to two assumptions, first off is the simple fact that I know the partition tables are different. So if the script tries to send something somewhere it doesn't belong it could be bad, second I see some differences in the scripts that I don't understand and there for do not want to mess with them until I do or someone who does will explain.
My goal is to not brick any testers kfires just seems bad for business
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One would assume but with semi limited knowledge on them I come to two assumptions, first off is the simple fact that I know the partition tables are different. So if the script tries to send something somewhere it doesn't belong it could be bad, second I see some differences in the scripts that I don't understand and there for do not want to mess with them until I do or someone who does will explain.
My goal is to not brick any testers kfires just seems bad for business
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After looking more in depth at the update script I saw one major difference...
Which is to do with the dev/block
So I went with the previous ROMs update script and I'm making the zip for initial testing now.
Fingers crossed
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After looking more in depth at the update script I saw one major difference...
Which is to do with the dev/block
So I went with the previous ROMs update script and I'm making the zip for initial testing now.
Fingers crossed
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Good luck mate, if you think it's OK send me the link for testing...
Cheers!