Low on Space Notification - WTF? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Looking for ideas here. I've been getting a low on space notification in my Stock 2.2 for a couple days now. It states that the application data space is low.
What space is it referring? I've got 6.5 GB free on the internal and 4.5 GB free on the external drives. Is there another location that is partitioned off in the internal memory?
Any ideas of what I might be able to do to clear up the notification?
Hmmm... I just found a thread that mentions that it has nothing to do with the storage size but how much is in /data. They recommended clearing the dalvik cache, but I actually did that yesterday.

Installed Cache Cleaner (needs root & Busy Box).
We'll see how it goes...

Go through management for each app... I bet you find one with 99mb of cache.. Clear that app's cache

luvit said:
Go through management for each app... I bet you find one with 99mb of cache.. Clear that app's cache
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I appear to be ok now. The next time that pops up I'll give that strategy a whirl.
Thanks!

Plenty of people including me who get the warning and no large cache, social apps, email, messages, Google Earth, Skyfire or any of the other suspects. Android has a big a55 bug up its butt and was in 2.1 and now 2.2.

luvit said:
Go through management for each app... I bet you find one with 99mb of cache.. Clear that app's cache
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Nice tip - thanks, I'd not thought of that.

I still get the error and have no large cache built up on any app, or a total of cache for all apps. I have ZERO of the usual issues: Google Earth, social apps, messages, large emails- none.
I have had the follwing roms and always clear data and caches before installing:
2.1 stock = Low on space
2.2 Skyraider = Low on space
2.2 Stock = Low on space
2.2 without bloatware = Low on space
I have about 380mb of storage out of 748mb I can not use. Ironically, I used to be able to go to about 250mb free, but it creeped into less space now.
It seems almost like the Android OS still thinks some apps using apps2sd still reside in device memory. The device shows the space is free, but I wonder if the OS "thinks" it is not free. Only thing that makes sense to me- displacement.

rushless said:
I still get the error and have no large cache built up on any app, or a total of cache for all apps. I have ZERO of the usual issues: Google Earth, social apps, messages, large emails- none.
I have had the follwing roms and always clear data and caches before installing:
2.1 stock = Low on space
2.2 Skyraider = Low on space
2.2 Stock = Low on space
2.2 without bloatware = Low on space
I have about 380mb of storage out of 748mb I can not use. Ironically, I used to be able to go to about 250mb free, but it creeped into less space now.
It seems almost like the Android OS still thinks some apps using apps2sd still reside in device memory. The device shows the space is free, but I wonder if the OS "thinks" it is not free. Only thing that makes sense to me- displacement.
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It's a bug. Interestingly I get the same issue at around 380MB too. Oh well.

The only time I see the warning is when I install the beta of Firefox. If I uninstall it, the message goes away. Firefox is a resource HOG!

Woke up this morning to this lovely issue. Going to try clearing the cache... then removing firefox.
EDIT: Clearing the cache seems to have worked.

Donation? lol.

I had this pop up just a few hours ago. I cleared all my cache's, and even moved a bunch of apps to sd. Then I happened to have my phone turned to landscape and a I saw. 1. go to mail an.....(off the edge of screen) ??? So I followed the link to the (i guess) memory manager>gmail>cleared the data. The message went away. I sure hope I remember that one later on. I guess the notification tells you more we just can't see it since it goes off the edge into lala land.
So it must be the newest gmail app. anytime I open it up and re load my account the warning comes up. Anyone got a link to the old gmail apk?

Based on the fact that the population having the issue seems to correlate in magnitude as people accumulate apps, I think it it pretty rock solid that the Incredible has a design bug in regards to actual free phone memory. After trying four roms and starting clean with them (Including 2.1 and 2.2 stock roms), my conclusion is this device does not really have "748"mb free, but a few hundred less.
There are two stages to the problem (one with a temporary fix)
1. Cache build ups causes the warning
2. Absolute space is filled with apps and no more can be installed. This appears to hit most people anywhere from 350mb to 250mb free.
This is a big a55 bug and may be due to the allocation of flash from the 8gb. Droid X does not have the problem, but none of the 8gb internal flash was allocated (it is all phone memory).
Catch with the X is most 3D games now force most data to sd card with no option to leave in the internal flash. Ironic the X has too much storage and wastes space that media could use and the Inc has about the right amount but does not work correctly.
Funny and sad. People that say they have not had the problem probably have not hit the invisible ceiling that is a LOT less than 748mb.

Well the problem for me was my email. I cleared all the data in it and the notice goes away. Re sync it and the notice pops up again. So I cleared the data. Went back into my gmail. Started the sync, then right away went out to setting> applications> google> stopped the sync. When I went back into gmail it had what it started to download listed and I was then able to get into settings. I went into Menu > More> settings> labels then I set the sync to only 1 day at a time. Now my phone seems happy and no low space warning. Hope it lasts.

Most having the problem do not have large mail or app caches. That is a symptom to the actual problem of fake space: the Inc does not really have 748mb free.

Solution has been found!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8618549#post8618549

so any further information on this?

Idk if Im right but can this be cause to if you have to many sms/mms....

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Memory leak with install/uninstall apps

Hi all,
I finally got myself a unbranded/sim lock free HTC Desire and the first thing i tried to do was to install some extra apps.
So i install an application called AppManager and it was reporting that the device had 145MB free out of 147MG possible .
Up to this moment everything was okay, and then i started to install some other applications, and since some of them didn't made my happy i just uninstalled them.
This procedure was been done maybe for a half-dozen applications, and at the end i only left the AppManager installed. However now the device reports 101MG free out of 147MG possible. I have restarted the device some times, and this value maintains the same..so i wonder where all the memory went? Is there some sort of bug in the memory management or in the uninstall procedure of applications within HTC Desire / Android 2.1 OS?
If there's any extra info i can provide, feel free to ask for it.
Thanks for your time,
Bruno
Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb
adesonic said:
Have you tried clearing the internet and mail cache, these can soak up several Mb
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Hi adesonic,
I have only the gmail account setup (and this email account it's an empty one) and i didn't used internet so far.
By installing and uninstalling over and over applications the memory keeps droping until i see the low storage warning message. The way to fix it is to do a factory reset, but it seems to me that something is very wrong with the device/os.
Thanks,
Bruno
that's a known issue mate, i am having it too and many others i think.
i dunno if this is the reason but what's the process of uninstallation ???? maybe the .apk file is left somewhere when we download it and still take space after uninstall
I have the EXACT same problem on my HTC Desire and it is driving me nuts. And to make things worse I have trouble finding other people with the same problem.
Has anyone else experienced this problem and perhaps found a solution? Im going crazy having to do a factory reset to clear up memory from apps I have already uninstalled (I have turned down cache for my browser and my emails cache is very small too.)
I'll wipe my desire in a few minutes. I've got only 8mb left now, and I really deleted all the stuff I didn't really need... Thinking about getting a bigger MicroSD card & doing A2SD until HTC leaks sense for 2.2. I'll report back after reinstalling all my apps
i've got 3MB left
tommo123 said:
i've got 3MB left
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Get Estrongs file explorer and prune your download and downloads folders.
I guess the issue is not having the capacity of microsd card shrinking, but the internal memory being shrinked after several installs/uninstalls. It also drives me mad on my Desire.
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I assume you were using the Market app to install apps. This has a cache that gets pretty big. I've gotten it up to 10mb before. You can go into Applications and choose the market app and clear cache. I've had this issue and the only way I've sorted it was to get the apps I wanted, tested some others, come to some conclusion what I really wanted and then do a fresh restore and only install the apps I wanted.
Something i did not realized before but after reading this thread, i know realized that after 7 days of using my Desire, i only have 43MB left
And to think i was telling myself i can take my time and test as many application as possible cos i can always uninstall those i don't like. Looks like there is an after effect
Is this problem only on rooted desire or?
if you know if this will be fixed with v2.2?
No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.
yes but factory reset delete all settings..or? isnt this annoying?
Not at all, if you've selected Menu/Settings/Privacy (Iguess, my phone is in Swerdish)
That will back up almost everything.
Not your Own Theme settings however.
i hope that this will be fixed with v2.2. Becouse i want buy this phone, but i will think twice. Problems with memory, vibrating, multitouch, and so on..
-Hell No! (Sorry )
This is an awsome phone, I've had no problems with mine.
Yes there is a shortage of memory, but you'll find that in other phones too and it will be taken care of somewhat in 2.2. The very few shortcomings are out weighted by its stellar performance in other ways. The multitasking in the Desire is seriously good. I often use 3-4 apps simultaneously and it doesnt even lag or slow down. Cardiotrainer, Music and c:geo is working about an hour together everyday and when the phone rings or I get an message/mail I don't have to exit the running apps - try that on an iPhone
My advice - Buy it and do it now.
rawimage said:
No it's affecting non rooted too.
I did a Factory Reset a while ago. I then had 41MB free, after reset and installing the same apps again i had about 94MB free. All this after trying out a lot of apps.
Now it´s the same again, So a reset will free a lot of memory.
Does anyone know of an app that will back up my e-mail accounts settings? That was the only part that had to be reconfigured after the reset. WiFi, contacts and app settings are a breeze but the e-mail settings has to be done manually.
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Sorry i have to ask but when you say setting up WiFi, contacts and apps is a breeze....do you mean restoring from the back up? Now if i would to hard reset, how do i restore my data from the memory card assuming i don't want to sync my contacts & calendar. What about general phone settings?
Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.
rawimage said:
Well, all WiFi connections I had set up before - they just worked again.
All apps will be wiped, but they will be on your Downloaded page in Market. So its just a matter of installing them again.
All apps that had files and settings on memory card - recognized this and all was back to normal.
I use Google Calendar and that syncs back when setting up your Google account again.
Contacts I sync with Outlook, but if you have them in your Google Gmail account as contacts I suppose they just sync back.
The only thing I really had to do all over was setting up my e-mail accounts. The rest just fell in place.
Only thing I lost was my history in CardioTrainer, because I forgot to "Backup to SD card".
So take a peek in your apps if there is an option to backup to SD card and when the app is installed after the reset you can restore from your card again.
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Thanks for the info. Will come in handy looking at my memory already now left with 25MB. It's going to be too soon before i have to hard reset

[Q] After rooting - phone is always low on storage. please help!

Ok..
I am pulling my hair out on this.
I rooted the phone, unrevoked forever!, and now my phone is always reporting it is low on storage. I removed half the apps on the phone and can't get rid of the message.
I did do a nandroid recovery once to make sure the nandroid backup was good (could that screw up the storage totals)?
Under phone storage:
SD Card:
Total 7.6, avialable: 6.2
Internal Phone: Total: 6.6gb, available: 6.45
Phone Memory: Total: 748mb, available 628mb
Looking at the items listed under manage memory (when you click low storage) I estimage about 160mb or so of storage.
When I mount the drives on my computer, I am matching the numbers shown above for available (but the bar charts in windows showing how much memory is left are wrong - they are showing very little free storage).
Any suggestions on how to fix this? I am out of apps I can remove (and that does not seem like the issue anyways).
Any suggestions?
I had this happen over and over again over the life of the phone, including well before root (the first time within days of receipt).
Online, I could only find discussions where people blamed HTC's Mail application, which appears to increase in size, even when no new mail has been downloaded. Asinine, because we have PLENTY of storage?
However, 90% of my ROM installs, I haven't even bothered to set up HTC Mail, and still had it happen. A few times I went into Settings > Applications > Manage Applications, and cleared out data for com.htc.provider.settings or com.htc.socialnetwork.provider to clear the message.
The last time, yesterday, I deleted Facebook/Twitter data (official applications from the market), and deleted Google Earth. One of those cleared it.
I've sat around quiet about it because obviously this isn't widespread. HTC is aware of the issue... but considering I've run two sense and two vanilla ROMs based on leaked 2.2, I have a strange feeling I'm going to keep seeing it.
Let me know if you find anything that isn't a little more hearsay. I'll do the same. My next plan is to wait for Cyanogen and do apps2sd. Don't know why I linked the two, but that is the plan.
I did a complete wipe and a nandroid recovery of my base ROM. While syncing in Touchdown, the low storage message popped up (I sync a large amount of data - ~68mb of data currently). I went into touchdown and removed a few folders (shrinking the data file size) and the message went away.
I am guessing there is a bug when data file size (either one or the aggregate of all) hits a certain threshold the message pops up. For now, I am just syncing less data and will see if it appears again.
I freaked the first time I saw that. Then I saw I had 5 nandroid backups. I moved all but one into a file on my computer and TAHDAH! I had space again. Of course I'm still using the 2GB card that came with the phone, but check how many nandroid backups you have, or back ups from other apps.

[Q] Memory leak?

I have a question. I started to notice that my internal memory is running very low, without installing any new apps. So I decided to back up my data and do factory reset. Am running on stock OTA froyo not rooted. Did the adb shell setInstallLocation to install my apps on sd. After the reset i had 136mb of free space. After a couple of programs and data restore i had 123mb of internal memory. A couple of more programs and down to 120. After installing NFS Shift and Navigon down to around 98 as it should be. After linking two of my contacts with their fb accounts it fell down to 93mb! After just two minutes, without touching my phone it fell down to 89,5mb! Now the best part, without installing anything, nor touching the phone whole night (due to sleep ), my internal memory fell down to 78,95mb, whole by itself!!!
Call me crazy, but something is wrong here, and I dont know what... I delinked those contacts with their fb accounts, only left weather to sync every 6 hours, gmail notifies my instantly when a mail arrives but i recieved maybe 3 mails during this memory leak, and fb sync was on..
Any ideas what can cause this?
Anyone?
Settings > Applications > Manage Applications
Check what is using the most memory and report back
HTC contacts take up A LOT of space most of the time. Mine got up to 35mb a few days ago and has since stayed at 35.
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Hm, here it is:
Motonav 18,75mb
Rockplayer 3,99mb
Fifa10 3,86mb
Facebook 3,71mb
ASTRO 1,40mb
Dolphin HD 1,29mb
Other are less than 1mb.
For the past 24hours memory is doing fine, not leaking anymore, but I would kill to know what took 10mb just over the night while phone was idle?
What about nfs shift? That takes about 35mb?!
Make sure all the apps have refreshed and are all showing their size.
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I set the device to install all apps on SD card, so NFS takes up to 500kb in device memory The memory decreased as I was installing apps, so if it said that app takes 3mb, it got decreased by that much. So proprotion memory decrease and all installed app size is equal. But then it lost those 10mb over night, I don't know on what...
Before I did factory reset, I got 9mb of internal memory free and all my installed apps together took around 45mb, so I don't know where around 80mb went then.. After the reset, things became more normal but only thing that is bugging me are those 10mb that i lost without any trace...
That's why. I assume you're rooted? If you are, the rom you're using probably has A2SD+ so you don't need to move apps to SD, as the rest of the app goes on internal storage, instead of A2SD+ which moves all the app to SD.
Try moving apps back to internal and see how that goes.
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Not rooted :/ I did the cmd command adb shell setInstallLocation and set option 2, to install all apps to sd card.
Used this one : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742379
Thats why NFS is not 30 or so mb, but only 500kb in phone storage..
Is it possible that facebook could download so much data by linking two contacts with their fb pages?
Ahh, that's strange then. How many apps have you installed total?
Facebook for Sense will only sync contacts with phone numbers linked, and also their status', photo albums etc.
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Why its strange? Contact Sync etc over Night and your sopace will fall down if i Delete all my SMS i will have 20 MB more
But I dont have so many SMS, and only two of my contacts were linked.. I can't believe that only 2 links and already memory down bu 10mb? What if I linked all caontacts, i would need an 8 gb memory card for storage
Apps in total:
aBTC
Advanced Task Killer
Album Art Grabber
ASTRO
Barcode Scanner
Compass
Doplhin HD
Extended Controls
Facebook
FIfa10
Google Translate
Hungry Shark
Java J2ME Runner
Motonav
MyBackup Pro
NFS Shift
Post it Desk
Quick App Clean Cache
Quick System Info Pro
Retro Camera
Rock Player

how I freed 30mb internal memory

Got my desire in march 2010. Used it everyday since then. In the past months its been sluggish. Running out of memory and stalling the browser if I open too many internet Windows etc. I had about 30mb internal free memory. I got do frustrated I decided to wipe and factory reset phone. It has never been reset even since various software updates including 2.1 to 2.2. I had read that the upgrade often leaves crappy behind and a reset is recommended. I did it. I lost my messages, WiFi settings, bookmarks. I thought backup was enabled. Nope. No big deal. I had written a list of my apps down first. Reinstated them after the reset. I now have 55mb free internal. And that includes putting on flash 10.2 which I never had room for before! Synced my contacts with Facebook and gmail and now back where I was, but with much more internal space and phone seems much.quicker. not sluggish at all. Just a tip for those who never rooted and find the phone slower than a year who.

[Q] What is up with the data/data folder in Ginerbread?

Ok so as we all know this is the folder that gives us the low on storage message when we get under 15mb of space left. But this folders data numbers are going crazy on me. For instance I moved a few bigger apps (like google earth and google plus) to the sd card and had about 20mb left, but after using the phone for 2 days straight I checked and only had about 1.5mb left. Now to lose 18mb to cache is kinda crazy but after restarting the phone the number jumped back up to about 16mb free. Seems this problem keeps happening to me in Ginerbread only and I am getting tired of keep getting that low on space message.
I dont think any one has found a fix for it other than using apps such as link2sd and notenoughspace. I use the link2sd app my self, it moves the apk, dalvik, and lib files to a sd card extension.
possible fix
You should check out jermaine151's Stock+ version 2.1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260994. I can't personally vouch for it as he just released it and it's a little late to start reinstalling everything, but it looks promising.

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