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[Q] How does everyone "store"/create their ROMS and back-ups?

Currently, I am saving the ROMS I download into a folder on my SD card named "ROMS". Within that folder I have "Froyo", "Gingerbread" and "add-ons".
Once I finish flashing a ROM (ie. reset apps, contacts, get screens set the way I want, make sure all works..etc.) I create a back-up for that ROM and name it. If I ever add new apps or anything, I reback-up..overwrite the orginal back-up..and so on..
I leave the "ROM" folder alone. Is there any reason for me to keep the orginal ROM zips when I keep updating the "back-up" folder?
I think I am just using extra space on the card that is not needed by keeping BOTH the "back-up" folder and the orgianl ROM downloaded zip file??

xavier2404 said:
Currently, I am saving the ROMS I download into a folder on my SD card named "ROMS". Within that folder I have "Froyo", "Gingerbread" and "add-ons".
Once I finish flashing a ROM (ie. reset apps, contacts, get screens set the way I want, make sure all works..etc.) I create a back-up for that ROM and name it. If I ever add new apps or anything, I reback-up..overwrite the orginal back-up..and so on..
I leave the "ROM" folder alone. Is there any reason for me to keep the orginal ROM zips when I keep updating the "back-up" folder?
I think I am just using extra space on the card that is not needed by keeping BOTH the "back-up" folder and the orgianl ROM downloaded zip file??
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Best thing to do is backup all your stuff on your computer then you can delete whatever you want but leave your backups alone just invade you need them In a hurry
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I do kind of the same thing....I have a folder on my SD card named ROMS and folders inside of that. After I install the ROM I delete the zip from the SD card. When I download a new ROM (Warm Z TwoPointTwo Nightlies) I backup using Recovery in CWM and I also backup my apps using TitaniumBackup.
Then I flash the new ROM and restore my apps. If anything goes wrong (so far it has not) I can always restore from the Recover backup.
Hope this helps

I keep a text file in the directory where I backup my Nandroid backups which is a legend of the backups (which ROM's, mods, etc.). I tend to delete earlier backups where a subsequent backup is of the same setup only updated. I also note which backups are still on my SD card. Since I have a 32gb card, I tend to keep the stock ROM, my last good backup, and the last backup of any prior ROM (i.e. 3 backups) on the card, in case I can't get to my computer and need a quick restore.

I use either Rom Manager or CWR to create my back-ups. I have seen alot of references to Titanium. I recently flashed a CM7 ROM where Titanium is pre-installed. What is the benefit (if any) to using Titanium instead of RM or CWR?
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hgoldner said:
I keep a text file in the directory where I backup my Nandroid backups which is a legend of the backups (which ROM's, mods, etc.). I tend to delete earlier backups where a subsequent backup is of the same setup only updated. I also note which backups are still on my SD card. Since I have a 32gb card, I tend to keep the stock ROM, my last good backup, and the last backup of any prior ROM (i.e. 3 backups) on the card, in case I can't get to my computer and need a quick restore.
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A text file? Sorry..new to most of this..but is storing as a text file less storage space used? Also, is it a simple matter of going into root explorer..changing the file type to .zip to access it again if needed?
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I think he means making a legend as a text file and leaving the zips as is. Plus you wouldn't see much size difference by changing the extension to .txt and you'd be screwed if you got a bootloop since you'd have to change it back somehow.

[Q] Clockworkmod Blobs?

Hi,
I just noticed a folder named "Blobs" in my Clockworkmod folder that is eating up some space. What is this for? Anyway I can move it to my external sd card at all? After some research I know it's from previous backups. What if I deleted those backups? What I do is when I make a nandroid backup, I usually move it to my computer, and if I need it at all, I put it back into my clockworkmod folder, and restore. Will this still work?
Edit: It's taking up about 2Gb of space on my sdcard, and I only have one backup on there.

Papaniz said:
Hi,
I just noticed a folder named "Blobs" in my Clockworkmod folder that is eating up some space. What is this for? Anyway I can move it to my external sd card at all? After some research I know it's from previous backups. What if I deleted those backups? What I do is when I make a nandroid backup, I usually move it to my computer, and if I need it at all, I put it back into my clockworkmod folder, and restore. Will this still work?
Edit: It's taking up about 2Gb of space on my sdcard, and I only have one backup on there.
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Thats your acual backup of your rom from what I understand. Whenever you backup again it keeps certain information and deletes the rest. I usually erase the blob folder whenever I am starting over with an absolutly new rom for the most storage. Last time I did that the blobs folder was over 6gigs.
Now I do use Rom Manager and in settings it does give you the option to use external memory but mine is greyed out. Anybody know how to activate it?

SimmIsengard said:
Thats your acual backup of your rom from what I understand. Whenever you backup again it keeps certain information and deletes the rest. I usually erase the blob folder whenever I am starting over with an absolutly new rom for the most storage. Last time I did that the blobs folder was over 6gigs.
Now I do use Rom Manager and in settings it does give you the option to use external memory but mine is greyed out. Anybody know how to activate it?
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I probably wouldn't delete it, one of the purposes of the Blobs is to reduce the backup file size, and from what I know, it deletes the useless files in the blob folder when you make a new backup. Does anyone know if this is right? This is what I understand to my knowledge at the moment.

Where are my CWM backups now? (4.2)

ever since I updated to 4.2.1 I cannot locate my nandroid backups in the folder where it's supposed to be.. I heard that 4.2 puts the old nandroids to a folder named 0, but theres nothing in there. I have old backups made to internal storage and i want to delete these to clear space. only backing up on my sd card will work. However, when in recovery mode, I can see the old file if i press restore. can anyone help me find those folders to delete?

x10user2011 said:
ever since I updated to 4.2.1 I cannot locate my nandroid backups in the folder where it's supposed to be.. I heard that 4.2 puts the old nandroids to a folder named 0, but theres nothing in there. I have old backups made to internal storage and i want to delete these to clear space. only backing up on my sd card will work. However, when in recovery mode, I can see the old file if i press restore. can anyone help me find those folders to delete?
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When looking at your nandroid, does it give you the path?

BWolf56 said:
When looking at your nandroid, does it give you the path?
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Noo, but do you know where those files may be? what folder directory? cause isn't it supposed to be the cwm folder

x10user2011 said:
Noo, but do you know where those files may be? what folder directory? cause isn't it supposed to be the cwm folder
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depends on your recovery version. I'd suggest to go make sure you have the latest one.

BWolf56 said:
depends on your recovery version. I'd suggest to go make sure you have the latest one.
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I just realized that I deleted all the stuff within my 0 folder before realizing that my backups were there... This was a long time ago but what can I do now that I dont have those files in the 0 folder? I really need to delete the backups because they are taking up my space on the internal storage

x10user2011 said:
I just realized that I deleted all the stuff within my 0 folder before realizing that my backups were there... This was a long time ago but what can I do now that I dont have those files in the 0 folder? I really need to delete the backups because they are taking up my space on the internal storage
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Update your cwm recovery (on clockwordmod website).
PS.: Can't you delete old nandroids in recovery?

BWolf56 said:
Update your cwm recovery (on clockwordmod website).
PS.: Can't you delete old nandroids in recovery?
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can you please link it? I dont know where to find it on the site sorry :\

x10user2011 said:
can you please link it? I dont know where to find it on the site sorry :\
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Or use ROM Manager to update to the latest CWR. That's the easiest way instead of flashing the .img file.

Or if you've even bothered to use the search you'd know that rom manager just causes issues and download goo manger from play store and use twrp recovery. Problem solved
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need help with flashing a 4.2.2 rom from tw..

basically whats happening is im currently on fre3 rom and i want to try out liquid, but when i flash liquid my internal sd is wiped? everything from downloaded items, backups from titanium, to my twrp backups and anything in the internal sd is gone
now i suspect it has something to do with the way 4.2.2 roms deal with the users and that whole 0 folder thing, but my question is, is there any way to keep the contents of my sd card so liquid will see it?
because when i pop it into my pc, theyre gone gone, its not like they were overlooked (happened when i tried another rom)
any ideas?

therenegadenail said:
basically whats happening is im currently on fre3 rom and i want to try out liquid, but when i flash liquid my internal sd is wiped? everything from downloaded items, backups from titanium, to my twrp backups and anything in the internal sd is gone
now i suspect it has something to do with the way 4.2.2 roms deal with the users and that whole 0 folder thing, but my question is, is there any way to keep the contents of my sd card so liquid will see it?
because when i pop it into my pc, theyre gone gone, its not like they were overlooked (happened when i tried another rom)
any ideas?
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No matter what, when you wipe your phone, it wipes internal memory....... At least I'm pretty sure..

Joe0113 said:
No matter what, when you wipe your phone, it wipes internal memory....... At least I'm pretty sure..
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yea but to an extent no? i mean i always am able to restore things from titanium with no issue, also it erases twrp backups? thats never happened before
also i cannot delete that 0 folder at all, in phone or plug to computer, theres a folder in it, anbech? and in that theres a backup file? an sh file? it wont let me delete it at all

therenegadenail said:
yea but to an extent no? i mean i always am able to restore things from titanium with no issue, also it erases twrp backups? thats never happened before
also i cannot delete that 0 folder at all, in phone or plug to computer, theres a folder in it, anbech? and in that theres a backup file? an sh file? it wont let me delete it at all
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Download ES File Explorer and you can delete it. Just make sure you don't delete important folders/files.

Joe0113 said:
Download ES File Explorer and you can delete it. Just make sure you don't delete important folders/files.
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i have es file explorer, and it still wont let me
if i restore back to my tw rom which is 4.1.2 the 0 folder is there, and its the only folder in there, and every time i try, it says i cant

Joe0113 said:
No matter what, when you wipe your phone, it wipes internal memory....... At least I'm pretty sure..
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This is not true. I've been installing custom ROMs for a long time and I've never had this. If you're restoring a 4.1.2 ROM (like FRE) and all your files are gone then you may have accidentally wiped your internal memory somehow. You are correct in saying that when you flash a 4.2.2 ROM, a new directory gets created called "0" but when flashing back to a 4.1.1 your old files should reappear, only with a new directory called "0.". The best way to avoid this problem all together is, whenever flashing from a 4.1.2 to a 4.2.2 ROM, before doing so copy all the contents of your internal SD card to your desktop (or external storage if you have the space), then when doing your wipes (just b4 flashing your new ROM), wipe your internal memory. Once you're all booted into your new ROM, go back to where ever you copied your internal SD card and copy them back to your internal SD directory. Again you only need to do this when going from a 4.1.x ROM to a 4.2.x ROM (or vice versa).
Good luck!
Hello my name is George and I'm a flashoholic.
EDIT: BTW, for future reference you should put your twrp backups on external.

External sd card doesnt get wiped when the upgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.2.2 as i have my backups stored on internal but should move them to external sd .
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[Q] Internal Memory Full

I have recently rooted, installed CWM & CM10.1 -- The problem I have is now my internal SD is close to being full, but I havent installed anything on it yet besides a couple apps and some pictures.. Total Internal memory was 16GB.
When I go to Setting > Storage - its shows I have 12.5 GB of total space, but only about 1 GB available.. It shows apps and other things on the phone such as - APS 293MB, Pictures 550MB etc.. But added up it only amounts to maybe 3GB.. So I seem to be missing 13GB of space..
What I think may have happened (and I dont know how to fix) is.... Is it possible that I did the back up of my stock rom & titanium back ups etc.. all onto my internal SD card ? I didnt back anything up to an external drive or my PC, becasue the instructions I followed did tell to do that, nor how to do that.
So if that is the case I would like to extract those file from the SD card on my phone to creat some more room ?
Thanks.

Even if you did backup everything to the internal sd, a cwm backup is usually about a gig and I have 100 and change titanium backups and it also takes up about w gig so I don't think that is the problem. You should be able to hook it up to your PC and check the folder sizes on your SD card. You can also move the clockwork mod folder and TB folders to your external sd but you will need to set up the new location in TB's preference s option. If all else fails backup everything and copy all pics vids downloads and everything else you want to your PC or external SD, and wipe everything from your phones settings menu. This will wipe all data and game data too so be careful to get everything off it you want. Oh yea, make sure you have sync'd or backup up your contacts. That's a pain in the ass.

I had a problem like that when I first got my s3 last year and for me it was 2 files in the lost folder that were like 5 gigs each
hmmm......

Would it have anything to do with when after I rooted and was installing CWM and the new ROM.. It said for me to back up and save my old original ROM/configuration.. Which I did select back up.. But I didnt save it to my PC, I believe it just saved to my phone somewhere.. If I may need that someday I should likely save it correct ? Can someone give me an idea how to access those files so I can transfer off my phone ?
Maybe that is the problem ?

I don't recall ever seeing that option but it was awhile ago. You could try grabbing a root explorer and look around for a large folder. Es file manager for example. I kept my stock backup for awhile but never needed it. You can always find a stock image to reflash with Odin but I'm paranoid and keep at least one cwm backup in case. You could reflash the ROM you put on when you rooted and choose not to select backup this time. It will clear the phone so as above be sure to transfer or save anything you want. Get a little bit used to the process of backing up apps and reinstalling them when you switch roms cause these devs are awesome and always have new features to try. It goes pretty quick after you do it a thousand times. What ROM are you currently using?
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There is a free app called storage analyser in the play store. I didn't try it but it looks like it will break down what is stored and where. Could help in this situation. Your internal SD should pop up on the computer so if the problem is in there you shouldn't need a root explorer to find that. If its not in there maybe to a cwm backup to external sd and flash something new.

robberrobbie said:
Would it have anything to do with when after I rooted and was installing CWM and the new ROM.. It said for me to back up and save my old original ROM/configuration.. Which I did select back up.. But I didnt save it to my PC, I believe it just saved to my phone somewhere.. If I may need that someday I should likely save it correct ? Can someone give me an idea how to access those files so I can transfer off my phone ?
Maybe that is the problem ?
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what program did you use to flash the ROM? how many times have you flashed a ROM (specifically 4.2.2 ROM)?

xBeerdroiDx said:
what program did you use to flash the ROM? how many times have you flashed a ROM (specifically 4.2.2 ROM)?
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I have only flashed once.. Using a tutorial from XDA, I rooted using ODIN, I installed CWM v6.0.3.0. followed by flahsing CM10.1 Rom. (10.1 -20130414-nightly-d2att)
During the tutorial it said I should back up my existing stock ROM incase I ever want to go back, so from CWM I seleced back up/restore then selected back up. It didnt tell me how to find this file and save to my PC or somewhere safe.. so is it possible that there are a bunch of files still on my S3 that I cannot see from just plugging it into my pc ?
I would really like to do this properly and remove everything from my S3 and just start with a fresh ROM again.. and know that what I need to have backed up was done properly onto my PC or somewhere other than my phones SD card. pls help = )
I just remembered a problem I ran into while performing the above steps.. I dont know exactly what happened but I think the version of CWM may have been old.. so I tried to update or install a newer version (followed another tutorial) is there a change there is the old version still on SD card ?

Do you have a micro sd card? This would allow you to completely wipe the device and install your OS

xBeerdroiDx said:
Do you have a micro sd card? This would allow you to completely wipe the device and install your OS
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Yes I do have one I can install. (2GB) would you be able give me a list of the steps on how to do this properly ? (or link to a post that does)
Also, I do find I ejoy the CM10.1, is the verion I have one that I should be running or is there a standard version ?

If you enjoy cm10, stick with it. I'm on tasks 4/23 release and its running beautifully
Place the rom and gapps on the sd card, get what you want off the phone and you should be all set.
Check out the link in my signature for more information on flashing. when you format /system, also format /data + media.
Before you begin, go in rom manager and update your cwm recovery. Latest is 6.0.3.1. Or download the one at the bottom of post #2 in my signature link and flash it in cwm (then advanced > reboot recovery to have it take effect before flashing the rom).
Keep me posted

xBeerdroiDx said:
If you enjoy cm10, stick with it. I'm on tasks 4/23 release and its running beautifully
Place the rom and gapps on the sd card, get what you want off the phone and you should be all set.
Check out the link in my signature for more information on flashing. when you format /system, also format /data + media.
Before you begin, go in rom manager and update your cwm recovery. Latest is 6.0.3.1. Or download the one at the bottom of post #2 in my signature link and flash it in cwm (then advanced > reboot recovery to have it take effect before flashing the rom).
Keep me posted
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Ok, I got CWM updated to 6.0.3.1, I backed up apps with TB and saved file to ext SD and got all my pics/vids transferred as well.. Now I just have a couple questions.
1) When I originally backed up my stock ROM in CWM it would have saved to my phones internal SD correct ? Because I could never find it. I just did a back up again and I plug phone into PC and cant find that one either ? Where would the be going ?
2) Can you link me to a good version of CM10.1 for my model as well as the proper google apps.. I cannot locate.
Thanks.

If you backed up to your internal sd card then the location should be something like storage/titaniumBackup. Inside that folder would be an oddly dated folder with all the contents. Transfer that to your computer as well.
Cm10 and the respective gapps are in the original android development section. You can also find their stable and nightly releases on their website. Be sure to only use the ROMs for your device model

xBeerdroiDx said:
If you backed up to your internal sd card then the location should be something like storage/titaniumBackup. Inside that folder would be an oddly dated folder with all the contents. Transfer that to your computer as well.
Cm10 and the respective gapps are in the original android development section. You can also find their stable and nightly releases on their website. Be sure to only use the ROMs for your device model
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Ok I just installed new ROM and now its worse, now I have less internal room.
Here are the steps I have followed.. (obviously its not wiping my entire internal SD right ?)
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset
- Wipe Cache Partition
- Advanced --> Wipe Dalvik Cache
- Mounts / Storage - Format System
- Install Zip from SD --> CM10 file.
Once phone boots up, I go to Settings --> Storage - Here it says I have only 2.6GB of space available and I have absolutely nothing on my phone yet, fresh install.
Am I missing a step ?
Thanks.

You didn't format /data + media like I said.

xBeerdroiDx said:
You didn't format /data + media like I said.
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Ok great that worked.. To to get everything working back the way it was...

robberrobbie said:
1) When I originally backed up my stock ROM in CWM it would have saved to my phones internal SD correct ? Because I could never find it. I just did a back up again and I plug phone into PC and cant find that one either ? Where would the be going ?
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robberrobbie said:
Here are the steps I have followed.. (obviously its not wiping my entire internal SD right ?)
- Wipe Data / Factory Reset
- Wipe Cache Partition
- Advanced --> Wipe Dalvik Cache
- Mounts / Storage - Format System
- Install Zip from SD --> CM10 file.
Once phone boots up, I go to Settings --> Storage - Here it says I have only 2.6GB of space available and I have absolutely nothing on my phone yet, fresh install.
Am I missing a step ?
Thanks.
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Nevermind. Too late to respond.