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Hello guys, i have a question, some may call it noob some may thought it themselves. i am currently rooted and using mcr3.1 without problems at all but i don't have the apps2sd.
i want to try it and i baked a new rom from the kitchen with the a2sd+ option integrated but i don't want to mess up my current sdcard and want to use another one i have. can i do that ???
as i see it i must do the following:
1) while my CurrentCard is inserted make a nandroid from the fake-flash recovery
2) turn off the phone and insert the new card
3) put the update.zip (for fake-flash) and the baked rom onto the sd card
4) now go into recovery (fake-flash) and choose to install new rom
will this work ok ?????
in addition as i see on my SDCARD some applications like titanium backup or astro or htc mail, rom manager, wifi tether etc have some files on it into their respective folders. will i be ok if i copy-paste them after the procedure into their folders in the fat partition???? or the a2sd+ uses some other m,ethod for the apps to store their info ????
THANKS for all the help
That should be fine...just don't forget to partition the new sd card for a2sd
do i need to make it with gparted or the rom makes it by default ???
The recovery image has it all. Look!
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
yeah i haven't taken a look into the recovery before...is there any update.zip that adds the a2sd+ to my current configuration ????
No because it's already part of the rom. Your sd just needs partitioning correctly.
Back up your sd card, boot into recovery. Go to partition menu and partition sd card.
Mine is swap 0, ext 512, fat remaining space. Then you can copy your sd backup back to the fat32 partition.
That's it all apps will install to sd card.
On a rooted HTC Desire I installed the XDA rom: “LeeDrOiD V2.0 (30/08 l Official 2.2 l FAST l STABLE l OPTIONAL A2SD+)”.
I need to create on the SD Card (of 16GB) a partition EXT3.
I have used Quick System Info Pro and A2SC storage to check and it displays “Information not available”.
I have installed on HTC the utility “Rom Manager” in order to try to create the EXT type partition.
When I am trying to format with Rom Manager the software does not ask me what type of partition to create (EXT2 or EXT3), but only what size to have and the size of swap.
Can you help me by giving advice on how to create the EXT3 partition?
Thank you in advance.
Rom manager creates ext3 partitions.
Lennyuk said:
Rom manager creates ext3 partitions.
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I partitioned with Rom Manager my sd card with Ext size=512MB and swap=0.
After that, again, Quick System Info Pro say, at <A2SD storage> : “Information not available”.
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(sorry for my english)
Did you reboot your phone once done?
I am stuck in the same position, in Rom manager I select the size and swap and then it reboots. It now goes straight to a diagram of an exclamation mark in a white triangle and an Android bot. I waited for 15 minutes and nothing happens. Here I press the oj and there is some information stating that there is some problem with the update.zip. SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!
EddyOS said:
Did you reboot your phone once done?
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Yes.
And... exact like <David0123> !
Same thing here
I'm just gonna chime in and say I'm having the same issue here when trying to create the partition using rom manager.
I ended up creating the partition using gparted on my linux box, but after copying all the files back to my fat32 partition, and rebooting my phone it no longer recognizes the applications installed to sd using froyo a2sd. (I have not installed old school a2sd yet as it is not compatible with the version of CM I'm using... waiting for 6.1)
Is there a reason the phone wouldn't see the files for the applications? I created my fat32 partition first, then an ext3 with the remainder.
Is it possible to create a 1gb ext partition using ROM Manager?
Hi.
I have an HTC Desire (T-Mobile UK) usng the Pinky Desre 1.8 rom. I have ROM Manager Premium installed, but this only allows upto 512mb for an ext partition.
I have a 8gb MicroSD card and would liike to create a 1gb ext2/3/4 partiton.
Does anyone have any nfo on how I can do this (assumng that ts possible of course)
Thanks in advance
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I'm just gonna chime in and say I'm having the same issue here when trying to create the partition using rom manager.
I ended up creating the partition using gparted on my linux box, but after copying all the files back to my fat32 partition, and rebooting my phone it no longer recognizes the applications installed to sd using froyo a2sd. (I have not installed old school a2sd yet as it is not compatible with the version of CM I'm using... waiting for 6.1)
Is there a reason the phone wouldn't see the files for the applications? I created my fat32 partition first, then an ext3 with the remainder.
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Have you tried
- moving all the apps on the SD back to the phone
- Do a backup i.e. Titanium
- Reboot phone
- Create partition using ROM Manager
- Re-install apps \ Move to SD
I haven't tried ths, but thinking logically, it should work
vybztymz said:
Have you tried
- moving all the apps on the SD back to the phone
- Do a backup i.e. Titanium
- Reboot phone
- Create partition using ROM Manager
- Re-install apps \ Move to SD
I haven't tried ths, but thinking logically, it should work
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I have 16mb of available space on my phone with every application possible moved to the sd card so moving them back is out of the question. I guess I could always just do an brainapp sync for my free apps and re-install the rest from .apk. I'm thinking now I'll hold off until I get a class 6 to make the ext partition.
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Hi.
I have an HTC Desire (T-Mobile UK) usng the Pinky Desre 1.8 rom. I have ROM Manager Premium installed, but this only allows upto 512mb for an ext partition.
I have a 8gb MicroSD card and would liike to create a 1gb ext2/3/4 partiton.
Does anyone have any nfo on how I can do this (assumng that ts possible of course)
Thanks in advance
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Amon-Ra lets you make bigger partitions that Recovery Manager/ClockWorkMod
There is a way to do this via ADB I believe as well, or a linux partition manager like GParted.
Lennyuk said:
Amon-Ra lets you make bigger partitions that Recovery Manager/ClockWorkMod
There is a way to do this via ADB I believe as well, or a linux partition manager like GParted.
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm checking the forums on Amon-Ra....need to know a few things i.e. can it be installed \ work with CW; does CW need to be uninstalled etc)
Will try the Linux G-Parted route as well.
Thanks
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm checking the forums on Amon-Ra....need to know a few things i.e. can it be installed \ work with CW; does CW need to be uninstalled etc)
Will try the Linux G-Parted route as well.
Thanks
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How mine is set up
Use Unrevoked to install Amon-Ra (that way if you enter recovery via HBOOT you go to Amon-Ra
Then keep RomManager installed, if you need to do anything via clockworkmod you can do it via this app, which "fake flashes" the recovery for its purposes, however still leaves Amon-Ra as its permanent recovery.
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How mine is set up
Use Unrevoked to install Amon-Ra (that way if you enter recovery via HBOOT you go to Amon-Ra
Then keep RomManager installed, if you need to do anything via clockworkmod you can do it via this app, which "fake flashes" the recovery for its purposes, however still leaves Amon-Ra as its permanent recovery.
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Thanks again....
I rooted using Unrevoked via Slax, and just want to ask if usng Unrevoked again means I'll have to re-root...or can I just install Amon-Ra?
(apologies if this is a silly question)
My unanswered ROM Manager, SD Card Partition post looks like it belongs here
I rooted my dInc with UnRevoked & 4ever and am now running SkyRaider 3.0 Sense (seems stable & fast) and I see that there's an update available to SR Sense 3.1 RC3 - so I figure now might be a good time to use ROM Manager to create an Ext partition for Apps on my 16G Kingston Class 10 SD card - although, so far I've been using App2SD successfully w/o partitioning the card. What's the benefit? The ability to back up apps on the sd card?
Anyway, I did nandroid & Titanium backups and copied my entire card to a folder on my PC.
My first question is what size ext partition should I choose? (I do currently have a ton of apps - but will be paring down to a leaner machine with fewer redundant apps). Also, what swap size do you suggest?
2nd, when I copy from the PC's SD Card folder back SD Card, which files & folders go to the ext. partition? Just the moved apps?. Then, all the rest to the main partition?
Then, do I just mount the card in the phone and run the update with a full wipe?
I already have the Goodies installed but, will I want to d/l the newest kernel?
Lastly, which of Titaniums' batch restore scenarios is best to finish with? Missing Apps w/ data? All apps & system data?
I realize there are numerous ways to go on this but I'm hoping you folks have some experience you can share before I make any major changes to a phone that's really running pretty well.
Please keep in mind I'm working with ROM Manager and I haven't gotten into sdk, adb, emulation or overclocking - yet
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I rooted my dInc with UnRevoked & 4ever and am now running SkyRaider 3.0 Sense (seems stable & fast) and I see that there's an update available to SR Sense 3.1 RC3 - so I figure now might be a good time to use ROM Manager to create an Ext partition for Apps on my 16G Kingston Class 10 SD card - although, so far I've been using App2SD successfully w/o partitioning the card. What's the benefit? The ability to back up apps on the sd card?
Anyway, I did nandroid & Titanium backups and copied my entire card to a folder on my PC.
My first question is what size ext partition should I choose? (I do currently have a ton of apps - but will be paring down to a leaner machine with fewer redundant apps). Also, what swap size do you suggest?
2nd, when I copy from the PC's SD Card folder back SD Card, which files & folders go to the ext. partition? Just the moved apps?. Then, all the rest to the main partition?
Then, do I just mount the card in the phone and run the update with a full wipe?
I already have the Goodies installed but, will I want to d/l the newest kernel?
Lastly, which of Titaniums' batch restore scenarios is best to finish with? Missing Apps w/ data? All apps & system data?
I realize there are numerous ways to go on this but I'm hoping you folks have some experience you can share before I make any major changes to a phone that's really running pretty well.
Please keep in mind I'm working with ROM Manager and I haven't gotten into sdk, adb, emulation or overclocking - yet
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(Q1) I have an 8gb sdcard and created a 1gb Ext2 partition using G-Parted (using Ubuntu 10.04 onmy thumb drive). You dont need to create SWAP. I did'nt use ROM Manager as it (a) totally wipes your sdcard and (b) it only allows for a 512mb partition. I still copied all my sdcard data to my NAS beforehand though....just in case
once I parttioned my sdcard,
I did a full wipe (incl. cache \ dalvic etc)
Installed custom ROM (Pinky Desire 1.8 – FRF91 Official Sense Release).
Then re-installed everything from scratch as, like you, was unsure how TB would restore my backups.
Then used TB to restore User apps w /Data. I figured that system apps were easier\safer to reconfigure manually
Once done, and tested - did an"all user apps+system data" backup with TB.
Booted into Recovery, and did Nandroid backup (and copied that to my NAS bos)
Dont worry about which apps go to the EXT partition. As I understand it, most free apps can be moved\installed to the SDCard; paid apps can only be moved\nstalled to sdcard if the developer has enabled it to do so. I use an app called App 2 SD - it dentifies which appa can be moved to sdcard.
I'm pretty sure that there are easier \ quicker ways, and that my way is over cautious, but it was useful in giving me a better understanding of Android.
I hope this helps.
Thanx for the feedback!
Sounds like about what I'll be doing - unless someone comes up with specific details on using ROM Manager.
What's particularly confusing is that even the apps that can be moved to the SD card only partially reside on the card.
These are my steps to install a cook ROM:
I have the Android 2.1 and it never rooted. So to install cook ROM, i will:
1.1>Format my SD to FAT32, Make a goldcard (using GoldCardTool_0.0.5) for it. (So it will generate specific folders into SD, right).
1.2>Root my phone
1.3>Install a suitable Radio on SD. *
1.4>Install cook ROM
1.5>Start my Desire for the first time in new ROM. Install ROM Manager from Market.
1.6>Do Partition SD to Ext2,3,4... by using ROM Manager for A2SD,... (right?) *
1.7>If i want to comeback to the ship ROM, i will downgrade ROM
Are these steps correctly?
I wonder how to:
+ Install Radio: Which place i will install? Do i need any app to do it?
+ Do partition SD: When do it? Before or after installing new cook ROM?
Thanks for your helps
You have got it correct mostly.
1.6 If you are installing a ROM which has A2SD+ (This is different from google's 2.2 A2SD), then you need to have your SD card partitioned to ext3 before flashing the ROM. There are two kinds with A2SD+
a. ROMs which have A2SD implemented -> for this ext3 partition has to be present in the sd card before flashing the rom
b. some ROMS are flashable without A2SD+, and after booting for the first time, you can flash A2SD+ as an add on. In this case, before flashing it, you can partition the sd card with rom manager
1.7 If you want to revert to the custom rom, flashing an RUU is the easiest way. Ensure you have a proper RUU so that you can get back to stock if necessary.
1.3 Again, some ROMS comses with radio as part of it. So flashing the radio separately is not required. Check the rom createators description/changelog for it.
And immediately after rooting with unrevoked 3.21 do a nandroid back up and save a copy of that back up in your PC since partitioning the card will wipe all data in it.
Well you are almost right about all the steps
>To install the Radio first you have to download the latest radio
here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
copy it to your root folder of your sdcard , and using Rom manger Boot into recovery or else switch off the phone hold the upper volume button ad power on the devise and
enter in to the recovery mode ,,
>Once you are in the recovery mode browse the radio .zip file from the memory card and press yes
>it will get installed in a moment ,,and reboot the devise now be patient it will take a while..and several reboots..!
>Partitioning the sd card is your choice you can do it in recovery mode using clockwork recovery or else use rom manager to do this ,,select min 512mb.
do it after you install the rom and use A2sd to install apps to sd card.
Thanks alot. I'm using Official Froy now, and will try to root my Desire when the time is coming (I still scare to break down the mobile ).
Ah, if i want to root my Desire, do i need to comeback the stock Android 2.1?
I'm a relative newbie at this but I have AMOLED DInc that I rooted about 3 months old. I was trying to flash the CMOD 7 through ROM Manager but after installing and rebooting, it would hang at the splash screen (the HTC white screen). I pulled the battery and then tried to reboot again, same thing. I pulled the battery again and held the vol- with power to get into recovery. I tried to restore the one backup file I had and it just looped back saying no files. I then remembered I had kept a couple of backups on my hard drive. I hooked the phone to the computer but the sd wouldn't mount. I then went into CWM Recovery to mount the USB that way. I was able to pull the SD card up but nothing was on it. I tried copying over my old backups but the message I got was SD card was read only. I then went to format the SD card via the computer and then was able to pull over the files. However, when I go back into CWM Recovery (via the vol- and power), and then to backup/restore, it says there are no files. Anyway to manually flash or install a ROM without having ROM manager and just being able to get into CWM Recovery?
the only way to flash a rom is through CWR don't use rom manager especially for CM7. boot into recovery if you are able and try to restore one of your old backups. if not. mount your sd card to your computer and put whatever rom you wish on the root of your SDcard once done boot into recovery and DO NOT USE rom manager.scroll to factory reset. and reset. then i usually use caulkins format tool i keep a copy on my sdcards root at all times. i do it because apparently it formats the system folder to. then when everything is nice and clean then scroll to apply zip file again then flash the rom( if you want to flash any kernels do that after the rom). then reboot. and crosss your fingers.
No luck...
tried that, downloaded virtuous and incredible roms on my mac. Its weird - they say .zip when they're downloading but then show up as folder on my mac. When I moved them to the sd card and attempted to install zip file from sd card, no zip files would show up - just the folders and subfolders and indvidual files... I then "compressed" the folders to create zip files and tried again but it would attempt to install and then abort installation...
I'm guessing I permanently bricked this guy...
What version of RomManager and CWM are you on/were you running?
ROM Manager offers you a CWM update when you open it to flash an update to the underlying CWM recovery.
When updated, sadly, this is giving people across the community all kinds of trouble when a ROM that doesn't have the 'latest' (according to the developer) scripting techniques in it - as such, much pain is being felt by folk that upgraded to latest CWM and are using ROM Manager to flash.
Once you get your device back working, perhaps flash your CWM version back to something earlier than 3.x - how? Scroll to bottom of menu when in ROM Manager, look for All CWM Recoveries, flash something other than 3.x, like 2.5.1.4.
These ideas are a stretch, but worth a mention/thought:
(prefaced w/ idk much about mac)
Have you tried another SD card?
Did/can you format the SD in the device? I've read mac formatting of SD to FAT32 takes some extra steps if not an additional app on the mac. Can you get to a PC and format the SD on a PC?
fwiw, frequently on PC's, the .zip file extension is not shown ~ is it possible the files on the SD have blah.zip.zip, and are therefore unseen? This is more common that you might think.
All that said, if you can boot device at all, successfully d/l a Virtuous ROM .zip to computer, transfer it to a viable FAT32 formatted SD card, boot into recovery, choose option that says 'select zip file to apply' navigate to the Virtuous zip file, flash it, you may be back in business.
For context, AOSP ROMs (CM7) interact quite a bit w/ the SD card, even during boot - as such, SD issues or wipes or other such things are painful when booting an AOSP ROM when SD is wonky.
hth
I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
Mount the sdcard to Windows & run Minitool Partition Wizard. Resize the FAT32 partition & make an EXT4 partition of any size you'd like. Unmount it from from the PC & run Link2SD.
Link2SD doesn't require S-OFF for the Play.
To mount it, is it just the normal state when you plug in the usb cord to the PC? ie, mass storage mode? or do I need to unmount the sd card in settings somewhere first. Just want to make sure I get the order right.
What would a good size ext4 partition be on a 16 gb card?
Mass storage mode is fine. Doing so in CWM is probably better though since the OS isn't trying to access anything.
2~4GB should be fine.
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
ROM Manager.
I hate to be the guy that asks a lot of questions that should be obvious, but how does ROM Manager answer my above questions? I hope that doesn't come across as rude, I meant it from my ignorant standpoint. I looked up the app on Google Play, and it sounds like it is used for backing up your current ROM, loading new ones, and a couple of other ROM related features.
Fuegeaux said:
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
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If you get CWM installed, you can mount the sdcard while in recovery.
Use SyncToy to do the syncing
http://www.everything-microsoft.com...our-windows7-files-and-folders-using-synctoy/
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=15155
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
Fuegeaux said:
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
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ROM Manager = Android app that works with CWM. Installs CWM on phones that support it. Xperia Play isn't supported for CWM installation from the ROM Manager but the other features within it do work.
CWM = recovery image that boots when invoked via ROM Manager or at the bootloader/kernel.
Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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No... you need to get into recovery mode to access CWM properly. The ROM Manager can reboot the phone to get into that mode.
I downloaded ROM Manager from the market. I see two options in ROM Manager that I think are what you are talking about. The first one is under Recovery->Reboot into Recovery. The second one is Utitilities->Partition SD Card. Can I just check the Parition SD Card option or do I need to Reboot into recovery first? Also, above Reboot into Recovery, there is an option which says "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. You must have the ClockwordMod Recovery installed to flash and restory ROMs!" But you said that the Xperia Play does not support this. I assume that I don't need to do this. (but, for future reference, I can't use ROM Manager to flash ROMs, right?)
First off, do I even need minitool Partition wizard if ROM Manager will do it for me using the Partition SD card option? Will that let me do ext4 as well as FAT32 and select differing sizes?
Second, if Partition SD card will not do what I want it to do, or do it fully, then what are the steps to do? My thought is plug phone into PC. Use ROM Manager to reboot into Recovery (using ROM Manager option). Once PC detects SD card, use Minitool Partition wizard to reformat/partition SD card with FAT32 for main portion and EXT4 for seperate portion for Link2SD use.
Will EXT4 also work for the dalvik2cache tweak?
Sorry for all of the questions and thanks again for all the help!
You need to have CWM installed that's made specifically for the Play. It CAN'T be installed from the ROM Manager.
Use this app to install it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pvy.CWMinstaler
The Partition SD Card option will erase everything on the SD card & it creates a small EXT2 or EXT3 partition. I don't recommend using it.
Use the Minitool & do as I recommended earlier on...
Don't mix dalvik2cache with any sdext script... I recommend using Link2SD or mount2SD apps for utilizing the ext4 partition to move the dalvik-cache.
I will test these things out when I get home today, or maybe this weekend if I can't find free time before then.
One thing I noticed when I went to the thread mentioned in the Xperia CWM app is that in big red letters it says "Do NOT use this recovery if you are not using stock 2.3 firmware". I guess that means when ICS comes out from Sony, we won't be able to upgrade through ROM Manager, right? This also means that going from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 would be okay using this version of CWM, right?
Also, if I wanted to upgrade to a 2.3.4 build, then ROM manager is the way to go, right?
Thanks again!!
I can't use the ROM Manager with ICS until something changes. Upgrading through CWM is always possible though, just as long as you know that spamming the home key (about 10 times) at system startup will get you into it.
Yes, ROM Manager/CWM Recovery can take care of any upgrades that don't involve flashmode or fastboot mode (ftf, img, & sin files).
Thanks again for all of your help. I find myself having more questions about ROMs, but that is kinda hijacking my own thread. Plus, I don't think I am ready to flash any ROMs just yet. I don't know, it just makes me kinda nervous doing that, plus it is a big pain having to redownload all of my apps and setting things up again.
I will try and partition my SD card soon and report back with the results.
Use Titanium Backup to capture all of your settings with the apps. Quite simple to achieve.
All right, so I finally repartitioned my SD card. I had to use FAT32 for the second partition because Link2SD did not recognize the EXT4 partition. I did make the mistake of not putting it as primary, but I fixed this and it still didn't work.
It looks like all is working, but I can't seem to link the davlik cache over, though it acts like there is none. Could I clean up the davlik cache and would that make any problems? It just seems like there is still a lot of memory being used and I can't figure out where it is coming from.
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I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
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connect your sd card to computer and use minitool partition wizard to partition your card. it is so convenient and easy to operate.