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Since I think this is the largest phone for sale at least in the US and it appears we are creeping up in size I ask "how big would be too big"? I think I saw some reference somewhere that there is a 5 inch phone. Would a 5 inch phone be too big? How about 6 inches?
I have jokingly put Galaxy Tab 10 inch up to my ear but it isn't inconceivable that phone functionality could be incorporated into a tablet. The radios are already a part of the data connected tablets. I use a BT headset and have for many years so using a large device as a phone wouldn't take getting used to. Some people still like sticking a phone up to their ear but could you or would you use a large device as a phone?
I suppose the question would then become how small a tablet would be considered too small.
I think this should print out at close to a 6 inch phone.
The Epic 4G touch is actually slightly (very slightly) smaller than the Infuse 4G.
I think 4.5 inch screen without any borders on the sides is the absolutely perfect dimension. That's what I see the being the most popular in the future to come. 4.5 inch screen flush with the side of the phone. The ET4g touch gets close.
This is as big as a phone should get. Actually, I prefer the size of the EVO 3D, if only it were as thin and light as the SGS2 it would be the perfect form factor.
I love big screen phones. Maybe 5 inch Max as long as the whole front was screen.
The Evo3D Killer!!!
Isn't the dell streak a 5in screen in the us
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Waiting...
Waiting for Nexus Prime or this...
When the OG Droid came out, I thought 3.7 was enormous and I laughed at the pitiful Iphone users stuck with 3.5. When the 4.0 and 4.3 inch phones started to roll out, I opted for the Fascinate since I thought 4.0 was just right and 4.3 would feel too monstrous. Now with the GS2, 4.5 feels ideal. I'll probably keep thinking that until a slew of 5 inch phones start hitting the market and I'll adjust.
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When the OG Droid came out, I thought 3.7 was enormous and I laughed at the pitiful Iphone users stuck with 3.5. When the 4.0 and 4.3 inch phones started to roll out, I opted for the Fascinate since I thought 4.0 was just right and 4.3 would feel too monstrous. Now with the GS2, 4.5 feels ideal. I'll probably keep thinking that until a slew of 5 inch phones start hitting the market and I'll adjust.
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It's funny.. I had the my touch 4g which was 3.7, I was happy to get a 4 inch screen on the g2x. I thought 4 was perfect perfect side and that 4.3 would be a little too big for me But when I got the sensation I thought 4.3 was perfect, then I had/have the evo 3d so when I heard the E4GT was 4.52 I thought again, "that's too big for me.. 4.3 is perfect" Then I held a E4GT and fell in love. It really wasn't as monstrous as I imagined it would be. I mean if you think about it .22 inches bigger isn't all that much
I think this is about as big as I would want my phone to be, but I can't helping thinking if it were heavier I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much.
I think we will hit a limit at 4.5-5inches as far as phones people are willing to hold up to their ear.
We may see sales of tablets larger than that will phone functionality built in but thsoe that use them will only do so with bluetooth headsets.
The Galaxy Note does look pretty nice and at 5.3 inches gets close to 6 inches. It is small enough to fit in a shirt pocket or jacket breast pocket. Not quite as big as a tablet. I like the idea of a stylus having spent 6 years with Treos.
I use a bt headset. But I couldn't imagine carrying a 10.1 holster around on my pants when I take the dog for a walk...
And no... it's not fitting in my pocket either...
Thoughts: Please don't read the above in the wrong way. I just reread and... nvm
Anything above 5 is beyond pushing it. I'm not even sure if I wanted a 4.52 phone...
I think E4GT is as big as I would want a phone too. I almost think it's a little too big, but then again, I thought that about my EVO 4G before but got used to it.
3 years ago it would have been 3.7"
2 years ago it would have been 4"
Last year it would have been 4.3"
This year is 4.5" and soon 4.65"
Next year is the Samsung Note at 5.3"
The coming generation of edge-to-edge displays will allow them to get at 5.5" display into a case the size of our Epic 4G Touch.
So why is Apple about to release another phone that is less than 4" if no one wants them so little?
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So why is Apple about to release another phone that is less than 4" if no one wants them so little?
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i hope they do keep releasing their sub 4 inch phones because they look so crappy compared to the bigger screen vibrant android phones lol
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You beat me to it..
This is the biggest i'll go phone wise, or so i'm telling myself that....now.
does anyone think the 5.5 inch screen of the at&t galaxy note II is too big for a phone? cause i want this tablet/phone but kinda worry about this being too big in my pockets compared to the S III or other smart phones.
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does anyone think the 5.5 inch screen of the at&t galaxy note II is too big for a phone? cause i want this tablet/phone but kinda worry about this being too big in my pockets compared to the S III or other smart phones.
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i had the note 1..... as for size you will get use to it in a couple of days....as for pockets i agree its not pocket friendly well as for me its ok but you can feel it in your pocket big time.. depends on what kind of jeans/pocket size you have/wear everyone is different.. my GS3 fits nice in my pocket i think that the good size limit for me.. note can be fitted in most pockets..unless you wear very tight skinny jeans.. i miss the note.:silly: i want note 2:victory: but i will pay a full price due to GS3 just got months ago...
give the note 2 a try when it comes out..see if it fits your needs..you can always return it back before 30 days just dont get it damage..
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does anyone think the 5.5 inch screen of the at&t galaxy note II is too big for a phone? cause i want this tablet/phone but kinda worry about this being too big in my pockets compared to the S III or other smart phones.
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SIze? Nope. I'd use a tablet for a phone, except that I don't think I can fit it in my pockets very well. As for Note 2 fitting in your pockets, it'll fit no problem. You could probably fit 2-6 in your pockets no problem...at least in my pockets. Mine are wide enough to fit a 2 litre soda bottle no problem though haha. They're like the Tardis.
unless you are an emo black skin tight jeans, it should fit in your pockets. general size it's big but you get used to it. when not in your pocket, put on table infront of you?
I carry a Google nexus 7 in my pocket. Guess it depends on your pants...
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unless you are an emo black skin tight jeans, it should fit in your pockets. general size it's big but you get used to it. when not in your pocket, put on table infront of you?
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hahaha, this a perfect example of how it should be!
this phone definitely isn't too big. so no need to worry about. it's perfect.
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does anyone think the 5.5 inch screen of the at&t galaxy note II is too big for a phone? cause i want this tablet/phone but kinda worry about this being too big in my pockets compared to the S III or other smart phones.
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It is too big for some, but you'd be surprised how pocketable it is. All my friends are.
I HIGHLY suggest making a mockup out of cardboard (just leave the corners square), and testing out your pants.
That's what I did before I ordered the first Note.
- Frank
I've been using Galaxy Nexus for 1 year and really loved its size and weight wich is just perfect for me. But I was dissappointed with the battery life and performance, so I read a lot of articles and bought Note II 1 week ago. First two days I really enjoyed it but now I feel that my right arm hurts because of many tries of using Note II with one hand. So disappointed with that Even now thinking about getting Nexus 4 or Ativ S, their size and weight are much better....
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I've been using Galaxy Nexus for 1 year and really loved its size and weight wich is just perfect for me. But I was dissappointed with the battery life and performance, so I read a lot of articles and bought Note II 1 week ago. First two days I really enjoyed it but now I feel that my right arm hurts because of many tries of using Note II with one hand. So disappointed with that Even now thinking about getting Nexus 4 or Ativ S, their size and weight are much better....
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Maybe you should change phones. If your arm is hurting due to the size and weight then you won't last.
Especially seeing as the note 2 is by no means a heavy phone. I don't think the note 2 is designed to be used one handed (I can, but I have large-ish hands).
I adapted to the size straight away with no issues
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Maybe you should change phones. If your arm is hurting due to the size and weight then you won't last.
Especially seeing as the note 2 is by no means a heavy phone. I don't think the note 2 is designed to be used one handed (I can, but I have large-ish hands).
I adapted to the size straight away with no issues
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I had the same issue when I bought HTC Desire HD 2 years ago. It felt heavy for me, so my arm started hurting. Probably there is something wrong with my arm becasue of years of playing court tennis so it hurts because of heavy phones...
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I had the same issue when I bought HTC Desire HD 2 years ago. It felt heavy for me, so my arm started hurting. Probably there is something wrong with my arm becasue of years of playing court tennis so it hurts because of heavy phones...
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Sounds like it because I just asked my brother who is an exercise physiologist and he says that the weight of a phone shouldnt cause pain in the arm. Most likely an underlying problem. Is it in both arms or one in particular?
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If you try to reach across the whole screen with your thumb one handed, of course there could be some muscle strain unless you have giant hands.
I found that I put shortcuts I need one handed on the right side of the screen and lock screen, so I can make calls and simple tasks this way, and write messages with the one handed Samsung keyboard if I need to.
That said, I got used to the size the second day, seriously, my wife's galaxy s2 seems so incredibly tiny now!
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Sounds like it because I just asked my brother who is an exercise physiologist and he says that the weight of a phone shouldnt cause pain in the arm. Most likely an underlying problem. Is it in both arms or one in particular?
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It might also happen not because of the weight but because the screen is wide. I don't have such problem with the left hand holding it for a long time. By the way, I have arms much bigger than average, so it is quite possible for me to use Note II with one hand but the result is the hurt :crying:
So probably the injury from the past causes the problem and wide phone phones are not for me
Sucks that I have to make this thread but here it goes.
So my month long Nexus 4 experience came to a very sad conclusion. When I received it, it was the best phone I'd ever used. The stock android Nexus experience was incredible. 7 days in, I had a bike accident, and the nexus 4 broke it's back. I didn't really blame it's fragile nature because it was an exceptional condition. Then yesterday, it fell just 18 inches off a chair, face down, inside a Rearth Ringke case...aand it's screen cracked.
I used to defend the Nexus 4 a lot, but I have realized that it's a bit too fragile for someone who expects modern smartphones to survive 1.5 foot falls at least.
Anyway, so now I'm in a situation where I can buy one of my friends two phones off him, both are just 10 day old so as good as new.
a) S3
b) Note 2
Obviously the Note 2 is a better phone, but I'm just concerned about the size.
1. How was your experience with the Note 2 at first? Was the size an inconvenience? Did you adapt eventually? How long did it take?
2. Any issues with Touchwiz? I'm coming from a Nexus, remember.
3. Are there too many broken screen issues with the Note 2 as well (Like there are with the nexus)? How's the durability in general?
If 1. is an issue then I'll probably go for the S3.
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Sucks that I have to make this thread but here it goes.
So my month long Nexus 4 experience came to a very sad conclusion. When I received it, it was the best phone I'd ever used. The stock android Nexus experience was incredible. 7 days in, I had a bike accident, and the nexus 4 broke it's back. I didn't really blame it's fragile nature because it was an exceptional condition. Then yesterday, it fell just 18 inches off a chair, face down, inside a Rearth Ringke case...aand it's screen cracked.
I used to defend the Nexus 4 a lot, but I have realized that it's a bit too fragile for someone who expects modern smartphones to survive 1.5 foot falls at least.
Anyway, so now I'm in a situation where I can buy one of my friends two phones off him, both are just 10 day old so as good as new.
a) S3
b) Note 2
Obviously the Note 2 is a better phone, but I'm just concerned about the size.
1. How was your experience with the Note 2 at first? Was the size an inconvenience? Did you adapt eventually? How long did it take?
2. Any issues with Touchwiz? I'm coming from a Nexus, remember.
3. Are there too many broken screen issues with the Note 2 as well (Like there are with the nexus)? How's the durability in general?
If 1. is an issue then I'll probably go for the S3.
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Sad to hear about your n4. I say go for the note 2. It may seem a bit too big at first but soon you get comfortable with it and other phones seem small . About touchwiz its come a long way from what it used to be. I used to hate tw as it used to make phones look waaay outdated but now after using the note 2 I dont know how im gonna do without it its just amazing and makes life so much easier with its functions. If your worried about the sceen breaking there are cases reported of it breaking by falling from a very low height. I have had a few drops but my hard rubber case has stopped it from even getting a scrarch
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If your worried about the sceen breaking there are cases reported of it breaking by falling from a very low height.
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Yeah there are such cases for every phone but it's the frequency of cases in the N4 that's worrying.
Hmm yeah that's what I've heard, that you tend to get used to the 5.5 inch screen after a while.
1. Took me about half a day to adapt from my Nokia N8.
2. It's probably easier to use than stock Android. All stock features are there so, I guess not.
3. The plastic looks/feels cheap, but it's very durable in my experience. Also, both the SGS3/SGN2 have Gorilla Glass 2, which is the most durable screen glass out there. Unless you're talking about Nokias (My N8 once came out from under a quad bike I was riding without a scratch).
Droped it from 1.5 m today and he survived.
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Most guys here will advice you to get the Note 2 but the fact is the Note 2 is pretty fragile and a lot of people here have also reported cracked screens from small heights. The note 2 is an excellent device but it has to be used with care. If you can be more careful then it should do you well otherwise just go for something more rugged like a Sony Experia Z or HTC One X+. The S3 is almost as fragile as the Note 2 but does fit quite comfortably in the hand in comparison to the Note 2. Also I had the S3 and because it was easy to use with one hand and easily fit the pockets I never dropped it. I've already dropped the Note 2 twice trying to use it with one hand, fortunately It was lucky enough not to have suffered a cracked screen.
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I came from HTC Desire HD using custom ROM with plain vanilla JB 4.1.2. SO I was used to stock JB. Getting used to Note II was no problem. It is such a wonderful phone, I love ti. It is bigger but I got used to it. Touch Wiz is a bit ugly, but pretty practical and has good visability. As I'm older I prefer visibility over "design"
Yes, it feels fragile, especially for me coming from Desire HD which had ALUMINIUM UNIBODY, but it is so light and you can keep it in your shirt pocket. I wouldn't drop it though But this doesn't mean anything, it is just the feel we have towards something. I had DHD for 2 years, and it fell frm my shirt pocket when I was bowling, just landed on it's back or screen flat. I also had a silicon cover for it. And it died! No screen broken, nothing, but it died. And DHD has one of the sturdiest bodies of all phones. So maybe that doesn't mean anything. Maybe plastic is better fit to survive the falls. I'm planing on getting a cover for Note 2 though, since I'm afraid it might slip from my hand, and I think I'll get this one: SAMSUNG EFC-1J9FW, since I have similar (flip open) for my N7 and it is just great.
get this case to go with a Nexus 4: http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/go...-series.html?gclid=CJXBj5rCu7UCFQWCnQodGkYAOA
I like both phones and have both. One week I use one, the next week the other. Both are comfortable and easy to use. I use Nova launcher. Both are excellent.
as the title says, anyone with a Note II thinking about ditching it for a One? don't get me wrong, i love my N2, but it's something about it that i don't like. maybe its the size, and coming from a G2, the plastic annoys me also. I'm just not sure if I want to give up the screen real estate, and the powerful battery.
On the other hand, the one is GORGEOUS, the camera is better, and i dont mind giving up the LED display for a 468(?)ppi display. Plus, i prefer Sense over any other version of android. its much more polished.
any thoughts?
Think you answered your own question here really. It's simply a better quality device. Win factor!
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I just sold my Sprint Note 2 for $550, with the HTC One in mind. I figured I'll sell now while the phone could feach a pretty penny.
I too love the N2 but its size does somewhat get annoying. I figured I could try the HTC One and if I don't like it I could resell that and by then the GS4 will be announced.
Its basically a never ending cycle of phone for me.
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I'll be selling mine as well. I'm not a huge HTC or Sense fan, but this phone is too sexy to pass up.
I'm thinking about it. I am expecting the screen on the One to be the best you can find on the market judging by the HTC One X's Super LCD 2 is the best that I have used so far. So I am likely to switch over, the only thing that's making it difficult is a great battery and I actually enjoy the screen size.
The Note 2 I had already went to my dad A long time ago. I still use my old DHD
Why? I just hate the plastic feel.
The WORST part of the Note 2 was that it would take 2 seconds to turn on the screen... I couldn't stand it after 2 weeks and gave it to him.
Why do Samsung devices take so long to wake? It is for that reason I am hesitant to buy the GS4.
There are only two reasons anyone should consider the N2 in the first place:
- They are heavy productivity users and get a lot of use out of S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, etc.
- They want the 5.5" display to try and have a single device double as a phone and a tablet.
Since OP didn't mention either of those two things he probably should have gotten a high-end smartphone and not have had to deal with the N2's enormous size. The N2 was never meant to compete with the likes of the SGS3, One X, and Optimus G and neither the One nor SGS4 will have the productivity features of the N2 so they aren't real competitors either. A lot of people bought the N2 only because it was "shiny and new" rather than for what it could do. They are the ones that create threads like this. So, OP, get the One as it’s probably a lot more suited to your needs than the N2 ever would be.
As for "plastic." Samsung's devices are as well built and durable as HTC's. To allow for the removable battery a lot of people still consider important they have paper thin plastic back covers that peel off to allow access to the battery. It's a design choice to accommodate function. The design's been that way since the SGS2 came out. With ten times more SGS3's sold than One X's (an admittedly more handsome device) the public would seem to be OK with it. And the N2's internals are made of magnesium (item 3 below) which is an expensive (but light) alloy to work with.
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There are only two reasons anyone should consider the N2 in the first place:
- They are heavy productivity users and get a lot of use out of S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, etc.
- They want the 5.5" display to try and have a single device double as a phone and a tablet.
Since OP didn't mention either of those two things he probably should have gotten a high-end smartphone and not have had to deal with the N2's enormous size. The N2 was never meant to compete with the likes of the SGS3, One X, and Optimus G and neither the One nor SGS4 will have the productivity features of the N2 so they aren't real competitors either. A lot of people bought the N2 only because it was "shiny and new" rather than for what it could do. They are the ones that create threads like this. So, OP, get the One as it’s probably a lot more suited to your needs than the N2 ever would be.
As for "plastic." Samsung's devices are as well built and durable as HTC's. To allow for the removable battery a lot of people still consider important they have paper thin plastic back covers that peel off to allow access to the battery. It's a design choice to accommodate function. The design's been that way since the SGS2 came out. With ten times more SGS3's sold than One X's (an admittedly more handsome device) the public would seem to be OK with it. And the N2's internals are made of magnesium (item 3 below) which is an expensive (but light) alloy to work with.
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yeah, i didn't get it for the TW features. after a few weeks i put paranoid on it. but i did get it to double as a phone and tablet. if i do get the one, i'll have to get used to a normal sized phone not running phablet mode. but i didn't get it because it's "shiny and new". like i said , i needed something that doubles as a phone and tablet. but on a day to day thing, it gets uncomfortable sometimes.
but samsung devices are not as durable as most HTC phones, plastic just can't stand up to metal/aluminum. imo, the galaxy s iii outsold the one x because it was on 5 different carriers (and of course samsungs amazing marketing). the one x being exclusively on AT&T is the reason i didn't get it. & it doesn't too much matter what the inside of your phone is made of when you drop it and the cheap material on the outside can't protect the phone from damage.
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but samsung devices are not as durable as most HTC phones, plastic just can't stand up to metal/aluminum. imo,
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Based on what? There were as many One X/L/+'s with displays cracked from drops as there were SGS3's and N2's. HTC had tons of issues with the Teg3 One X including public acknowledgment that the design caused Wi-Fi issues on some devices because of tolerances not met in the production process. And most of HTC's recent phones have been plastic too. Here's what happens to the matte finish on the One X(s) and DNA/Butterfly when exposed to any kind of abrasion. So I totally get that people like HTC's designs better (I do too) but that doesn't make them more durable.
And here's what happens to aluminum-backed devices with wear.
the galaxy s iii outsold the one x because it was on 5 different carriers (and of course samsungs amazing marketing). the one x being exclusively on AT&T is the reason i didn't get it.
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HTC took the best deal they could get. I'm sure if VZW and T-Mobile (Sprint did sort of) wanted to sell the One X they wouldn't have ended up in an AT&T exclusive. The One X was a beautiful device with a fantastic display cursed with an undersized battery and laughable storage on the XL and adequate storage on the One X. HTC's 2012 with the One's was their worst in history in terms of revenue, margin, and market share and that takes in to account worldwide sales not just what happened here in the U.S. I'm sure that wasn't what they were planning on when the One's were in R&D. Any how or why Samsung outsells them is less important than the fact HTC will be out of business soon if they don't come up with a formula to drastically improve sales. Let’s hope the One is a step in that direction.
it doesn't too much matter what the inside of your phone is made of when you drop it and the cheap material on the outside can't protect the phone from damage.
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A uni-body design (One X/One) can't distribute impact as well as a modular design. You'll see the battery cover fly off a Samsung device in most drop tests. That's a by-product of the energy of the impact being dissapated. Here's a N2 that survived a drop from 5'.
And here's a Samsung device being torture tested.
I was a very happy Teg3 One X owner and wouldn't hesitate to buy another HTC device if it met my needs. I'm using an N2 now and happy with it too but that doesn't mean I've suddenly become a Samsung fan-boy. Every device and the manufacturers that build them have strengths and weaknesses and it's not blasphemy to talk about them.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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yay welcome, really liked the stock slim rom that you made for the note 2!
Well, I just bought myself a Note 2 and love it wouldn't ditch it for a htc one!
hmmm... now I looked at the pictures from the camera... damn
I must say they are pretty different!
Note 2 is a 5.5'' while One is 4.7'' so it's a big difference in screen size
Note 2 is all plastic a la samsung meaning c.r.a.p. while the One is premium aluminum body
So if you don't like huge screen smartphones but prefer a 1080p delicious screen with Terminator build phone switch the damn phone
Seeing that this phone was not intended to go up against htc one, it sure is holding it own. Most post I reading only problem with the note is the material it made from. I say isn't this the reason we have insurance and for all those that are prone to dropping their phone..get a good case. Why do I need a phone that is waterproof? How many times are you going to drop it into the toilet? I got my note because I want phone and tablet and the note has lived up to that. I like the spec's of the one and if I was to cross over it would be because I want a new toy. Not because of some lame excuse the phone is aluminum.
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Seeing that this phone was not intended to go up against htc one, it sure is holding it own. Most post I reading only problem with the note is the material it made from. I say isn't this the reason we have insurance and for all those that are prone to dropping their phone..get a good case. Why do I need a phone that is waterproof? How many times are you going to drop it into the toilet? I got my note because I want phone and tablet and the note has lived up to that. I like the spec's of the one and if I was to cross over it would be because I want a new toy. Not because of some lame excuse the phone is aluminum.
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Driving a BMW 7 series with full option is the same as driving a kia picanto?
All the luxury and refined material make the BMW make you love to use it,the One is the same, just feel the aluminum body in your hand and the playschool samsung in the other and you will understand
I'm thinking about switching to the one it has great spec but not sure about the battery life. Note 2 has awesome battery life lasts.
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Currently using note 2 as well. I am selling in the coming days. That $$$ will go to my htc one.
I love the size of the note 2. I've always been partial to htc. I've had the opportunity to play with them side by side and I will have to adjust to a smaller screen. Yes, 4.7 is quite small after using the note 2.
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Driving a BMW 7 series with full option is the same as driving a kia picanto?
All the luxury and refined material make the BMW make you love to use it,the One is the same, just feel the aluminum body in your hand and the playschool samsung in the other and you will understand
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Like I said this argument would be valid if we were comparing to same things. I would argue about beats headphones vs Boise. I wouldn't argue a BMW (luxury car) vs an economy car. The consumer is buying for different reasons. BMW consumers has money and therefore it looks and feel pretty is okay. Economy consumers are on a budget therefore the question for them is can it get me from point a to point b.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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Wow. I've been using HyperDroid ROMs on my Note2 and I'm very happy to see you here!
And to the topic: my feelings with Note2 are absolutely same as OP. I hate the plastic and I never use s-pen. Its going to be my first HTC Android phone (had Titan 'bout year ago).
I'm seriously considering it, as much as I love the note 2 it feels too big in my hands. The One has a beautiful design, great screen, high ppi and those dual speakers are all things that attract me to it. But I'm waiting for the SGS4 reveal and user experience before making any decisions, I want to know how good the battery life is and if the gpu throttling is going to ruin the gaming experience on the device. If the phone holds up and the rumored specs of the SGS4 turns out to be true, I'm more than likely getting the One in black. But I will miss the expandable memory and amazing battery life of the Note though. Only time will tell