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[Q] Rooting advice

I have an EVO running 1.47.651.1. I used Unrecover3 to root it and have the WiFi tether app working. I don't think this took care of the NAND unlock though.
I'd like to get to a stock 2.2 ROM that's rooted, just to keep wifi tethering working and get some of the Froyo improvements, but don't want to lose camera functionality (3MP vs 8MP), break any of the radios, etc. along the way.
Unrecover3 installed the ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 recovery ROM, which enabled me to do a nandroid backup of my current environment.
My understanding is that from this point I need to NAND unlock and flash a rooted 2.2 ROM (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Is there a single comprehensive guide that will take me from 1.47.651.1 to 2.2, preserving ROOT, without any fancy ROM hacks other than the minimum required to keep wifi tethering working?
Sorry for the n00b questions; there are a LOT of guides and threads here and I just don't want to follow the wrong one and brick a new $500+ phone.

look into unrevoked forever, i think this might help you, if not then correct me.

Simple Root
I don't know too much about unrevoked. I rooted using Simple Root. It is very easy. I would suggest you reroot using this method, which will give you nand unlocked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
After you gain root, you can flash a stock 2.2 ROM (search dev forum) I rooted a long time ago so I'm not sure if the newest version of Simple Root will update your radios (Read the thread/site, it may mention it). Search forums to find the latest radio verions and confirm that yours match.
After your have 2.2, I highly recommend that you flash netarchy's custom kernel, which will fix audio streaming, as well as significantly boost FPS, which will make your phone feel like a new phone. You can find that kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
Good luck.
-Flu

+1 for simpleroot

I highly recommend: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741294. There have been people stating they've been having problems with simple root.
This TUT looks overly simple. If you are unsure about how to get adb working or how to work with it...just reply here or feel free to PM me.

"You will need to have the android sdk installed, as you will need to use the adb tool."
I'm a lost noob looking to do exactly what rjhollan was asking for. I followed your link to that thread but was lost immediately. I've been reading and searching to try and avoid asking dumb questions but I'm lost on this now. Any help appreciated. I was at least quick enough to deactivate OTA updates so I'm at 1.47....

You got Root and NAND unlocked
rjhollan said:
I have an EVO running 1.47.651.1. I used Unrecover3 to root it and have the WiFi tether app working. I don't think this took care of the NAND unlock though.
I'd like to get to a stock 2.2 ROM that's rooted, just to keep wifi tethering working and get some of the Froyo improvements, but don't want to lose camera functionality (3MP vs 8MP), break any of the radios, etc. along the way.
Unrecover3 installed the ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 recovery ROM, which enabled me to do a nandroid backup of my current environment.
My understanding is that from this point I need to NAND unlock and flash a rooted 2.2 ROM (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Is there a single comprehensive guide that will take me from 1.47.651.1 to 2.2, preserving ROOT, without any fancy ROM hacks other than the minimum required to keep wifi tethering working?
Sorry for the n00b questions; there are a LOT of guides and threads here and I just don't want to follow the wrong one and brick a new $500+ phone.
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Perhaps you used "unrEVOked3" not unrecover3...
unrEVOked3 will give you Root and NAND unlock.
I would suggest doing the unrEVOked forever now.
Look at your ROM Manager and and DOWNLOAD ROM in the program. I would suggest "Fresh".

[Q] What is the "Best" root Method for Root-only App Use?

I have a stock Android 2.1 Evo rooted with Unrevoked3. I've been holding off upgrading to Froyo because I don't have a good handle on what my best upgrade option is. First of all, I really don't care about using custom ROMs or uninstalling the Sprint apps that come with the phone. All I really care about is that I want to be able to run Wifi tether and SetCPU.
Second, I want the rooting process to be as easy as possible. I probably wouldn't have bothered rooting my phone in my first place if it hadn't been for the initial unrevoked release making it so easy to do. Unrevoked3 was a bit more involved, but at least I didn't lose my existing apps or settings. So, all other things being equal, I'd really like to avoid having to backup and restore apps and application settings.
Third, I want the root to be reversible. Unless, of course, I've already irreversibly done something to my phone when I rooted it with Unrevoked3. (I haven't been able to find a clear answer anywhere that says whether or not you can "unroot" from Unrevoked3- just a lot of people asking about it and some people saying something worked for them and other people saying the same method didn't work for them). From what I understand, Unrevoked Forever willl irreversibly modify my phone, which makes me worried I won't be able to get my phone serviced under the warranty or TEP if I ever need it.
As far as I know, there isn't a way for me to upgrade to 2.2 without either 1) doing something irreversible (Unrevoked Forever), or 2) wiping my phone's apps and settings (flashing a rooted 2.2 ROM). Is that true? If I wanted, how would I flash a 2.2 ROM given my phone is already rooted with Unrevoked3?

[Q] Temp-root, root, consfused... i just want to run some app, please help!

Hey there,
I have read many topics, guides and post about rooting but more i read more confused i get, so i write here in order to get some assist from fellow desire Z owners.
Situation looks like this:
I have Desire Z with Android 2.3.3 and what i read till now, to root this OS the only possibility is to downgrade it in first place, but the downgrade will wipe out current data (or perhaps i'm wrong here?), which i want to avoid.
Then again i want to root my phone to use some app that requires it, and uninstall some unnecessary components, i'm not interested in flashing custom roms right now, so perhaps there is some way to grant such privileges via temp root without downgrading?
Any assistance will be appreciated.

You will need to downgrade to root, which will wipe all your data.
Here is the best guide
The downgrade guide does have a (very) temporary root, which will allow you to backup your apps and data. It would also allow whatever app you need to run, but not for very long, the system becomes unstable if you leave it exploited.
-Nipqer

Nipqer said:
You will need to downgrade to root, which will wipe all your data.
Here is the best guide
The downgrade guide does have a (very) temporary root, which will allow you to backup your apps and data. It would also allow whatever app you need to run, but not for very long, the system becomes unstable if you leave it exploited.
-Nipqer
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Ok, understand so follow-up questions:
1. let's say i will do anything till temp-root then do what i want, and then is there a way to close exploit?
2. Or if i will go on, do the full rom backup for example using titanium backup and then restore it after downgrade would it bring back my Andro to 2.3.3 or stay at Froyo?

Plomiwn said:
Ok, understand so follow-up questions:
1. let's say i will do anything till temp-root then do what i want, and then is there a way to close exploit?
2. Or if i will go on, do the full rom backup for example using titanium backup and then restore it after downgrade would it bring back my Andro to 2.3.3 or stay at Froyo?
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ad 1. When having temp root you are limited with the things you can do and sometimes the phone does not behave as expected. Temp root does not mean S-OFF, so system partition might not be writeable.
You close the exploit be doing a full reboot of the phone.
ad 2. After downgrade and gaining S-OFF you can install every ROM that is available for your phone. There is a lot of Android 2.3.3 ROMs out there.
VirtuousRom provides some nice Sense ROMS.
The best known "Sense-less" ROM is CyanogenMod 7.1 / 7.2. CyanogenMod 9 is still tested and should soon be available.
Best regards,
Catherall

catherall said:
ad 1. When having temp root you are limited with the things you can do and sometimes the phone does not behave as expected. Temp root does not mean S-OFF, so system partition might not be writeable.
You close the exploit be doing a full reboot of the phone.
ad 2. After downgrade and gaining S-OFF you can install every ROM that is available for your phone. There is a lot of Android 2.3.3 ROMs out there.
VirtuousRom provides some nice Sense ROMS.
The best known "Sense-less" ROM is CyanogenMod 7.1 / 7.2. CyanogenMod 9 is still tested and should soon be available.
Best regards,
Catherall
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Thank you guys for the answers, i did some reading about rooting, adb tutorials, even went through first part of downgrade to get temp-root but at this point i have other questions:
1. I tried to use Titanium Backup to backup my apps, but it don't see them, i searched for solution and it seems that it want's me to update SuperUser.apk but after i do TB dosen't see root anymore, and SuperUser tells that busybox version is wrong, is there any solution to fix it?
2. Is there a reverse guide for unroot and S-ON? i found some using RAGE but i don't know if it would work if i use guide for root?
3. Hboot, is this recommended as i read that this part is where is highest risk of brick?
4. Just for to satisify my curiousity, what will happen if after downgrade i would install OTA Update?

1. Titanium not seeing your apps is weird. Maybe if you get the new SuperUser apk and use that instead of the supplied one when getting temp-root will help (and new su binary)
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442988 Revert to stock guide
3. Hboot is recommended. Yes it is (technically) risky, but I have never seen it fail, and so long as you aren't a complete idiot, you can't go wrong.
4. You'll need to redowngrade, no big deal
-Nipqer

Nipqer said:
1. Titanium not seeing your apps is weird. Maybe if you get the new SuperUser apk and use that instead of the supplied one when getting temp-root will help (and new su binary)
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1442988 Revert to stock guide
3. Hboot is recommended. Yes it is (technically) risky, but I have never seen it fail, and so long as you aren't a complete idiot, you can't go wrong.
4. You'll need to redowngrade, no big deal
-Nipqer
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AD. 1 - Solved it. Solution posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24685631&postcount=504

Before Rooting Question

I just got this phone. Android 4.2.2. I was wondering if rooting is still possible. I know that there are issues with unlocking the bootloader like, we can't. So can I still root and have the rooting goodies? If so, can you direct me to the correct method of rooting? All the methods I can find include unlocking the bootloader first and I don't know if I can just skip that step or not.
Thank you for your time.

Time To Shine said:
I just got this phone. Android 4.2.2. I was wondering if rooting is still possible. I know that there are issues with unlocking the bootloader like, we can't. So can I still root and have the rooting goodies? If so, can you direct me to the correct method of rooting? All the methods I can find include unlocking the bootloader first and I don't know if I can just skip that step or not.
Thank you for your time.
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To answer your question you need to unlock/s-off your phone to root it, I would recommend running the rumrunner tool, installing a customer recovery and then install a custom rom. The reason I say install a custom rom even if you want to remain stock is because you can get a stock rom without any bloat. Most of the bloat apps on the HTC One and pretty much any phone, run in the background as soon as your phone starts, this eats battery life and performance. For a stock rom check out Santod040, he has a good stock rom released, personally I like NuSense and ViperOne they are both very solid roms.
Read this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473644 it is the Rumrunner tool. I believe as long as you DO NOT UPGRADE to 4.3 you can still root/unlock/s-off, after you unlock/s-off you can install whichever rom you like without worrying about losing the ability to have root access.
You will want to get into the bootloader to check which OS version you have and then download the corresponding version of Rumrunner.
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Be sure to backup your whole phone as soon as you install a customer recovery. After the backup is complete, save a copy on your computer. There will be times when you are tinkering with your phone that you will need to get your phone back to a factory state, you can use a RUU but in my opinion that is more complicated process and you have a higher risk of something going wrong compared to simply restoring a backup.

Okay. Thank you. I will look into this.

[Q] Root - Unroot best practice

Hi guys.
Thank you for all your great posts that have helped me a lot understand the android world as I am coming from 7 years iphone usage.
I'm trying hard to decide what is the best practice for rooting and if needed unrooting my G3. I have read a lot in this forum, but I can't say I feel ready. So I thought I might ask in the forum.
So, first thing to do is root. As I understand this is fairly simple, I just have to follow one of the posted methods.
Now, say I'm rooted. I do all the tweaks I want and then I need to backup everything. So, I suppose I will make a backup with Titanium pro.
Then a new firmware version is released. Now the questions start
1. Should I try to upgrade with lg suite without unrooting? What are the possible outcomes? Keep root? Loose Root? In this case can I just root again?
2. Go back to stock (with lg flash tool), then upgrade and then root again? In this case can I just load titanium backup and therefore recover all my data?
3. Just unroot without loosing data (e.g. With lg suite) then upgrade and reroot?
4. Is the backup I have made with Titanium useless if I flash my phone to stock and then remain unrooted?
Am I too confused? Lol
Can you guys give me an idea of how you proceed when a new firmware is out? How long does it take to follow your plan of unrooting-upgrading-rerooting? Is it a matter of minutes, hours?
Thank in advance.