So, I *just* got an Evo. I mean just barely. While in the Sprint store, they ran the updates. That means that I have the newest OTA and an otherwise stock phone.
I've spent like 4 hours reading through stuff on here trying to wrap my head around everything. S-ON, S-OFF, ROM this, brick that... It's a little overwhelming. I'm a n00b, but not completely as I had rooted my Epic via ADB. (A painless process.)
So, now I'm trying to find out if root is possible with a stock phone with the OTA that they "graciously" installed for me. I'd like to at least take that step. Ideally I'd really like to try Fresh since apparently it's great, fast, and solid. But I'm having a heck of a time trying to find real info for n00bs that kind of walk a person through what everything means, how everything works, etc. Anyway...
My biggest question is can a stock/OTA'd phone be rooted yet? Thanks!
Go here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
READ, READ, READ...then go for it. Then move on to a rooted ROM of choice.
Jim
Thanks! Between you & joeykrim on IRC I got it working. Pretty easy, actually. Don't notice any problems other than my battery has gone nuts since I rooted. Namely, Lost 10% in about 10 minutes and then charged it back up 5% and lost 20% over an hour at lunch. *shrug* Probably not related.
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Just got a replacement Evo today and really wanna root and flash CM7 or MikFroyo, but my laptop is getting repaired and I was wondering if it was possible to root by downloading and flashing files right on the phone?? I know this is a longshot....lol....Please no flamers.....
I looked around for the same thing a while back before rooting and didn't have any luck. I think you need the computer. I'm pretty much a n00b so I could be more than wrong here.
Yeah, something like jailbreakme.com for the iphones. I hear ya. I haven't seen anything come up on any blogs, or anywhere on this forum. (and i assume they'd be among the first to know)
sorry mate!
Not as of yet, at least not permanently. There's a program called z4root but doesn't make it permanent. As soon as you reboot the phone it's back to stock. I'd just be patient and wait for your laptop. In the meantime keep doing your research and reading about the different problems you may run into, etc. That way you'll be prepped for almost anything. I read about rooting for about three months before actually doing it, best choice with the phone other than the initial purchase.
Bought this phone wanting faster internet than what I had.
I really have not messed with this phone for 3 months and have been OK with what I am paying and the speeds I get. Nothing to write home about, but faster than what I had.
For almost a week now the thing has a hard time getting connected then it is really bad once connected.
Always dropping off (getting lost) Having to reload pages over and over because the signal goes away.
It switches from 3G back to 1x a lot.
A friend rooted this and installed tether, taskiller, and a few other things I can't remember.
I had tried to remove stuff running in the back ground as best I could a couple of months ago trying to save battery life (which sucks) with no problems.
So what gives?
I live 40 miles south of the Nations Capitol and 20 miles west of the great Interstate 95 bumper to bumper traffic corridor.
I know where the tower is (4 miles away) and don't think there will be any new ones anytime soon.
It's still out in the sticks.
Frustrated and I really don't want to brick this phone since I got rid of my landline.
Root it, flash the .04.08 leaked evo radio. I'm running it and have gotten much better 3g speeds. You won't regret it
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If you do ROOT your Inc you'll want to flash a custom ROM to get the optimized experience.
I would suggest SkyRaider 4.0
Also if you upgrade to the evo radio (2.15.4.08) BE CAREFUL! This is the easiest way to brick your phone.
Download the radio and also download the app called MAND5 from the market.
ManD5 will verify the checksum of the radio.
Compare the checksum to the downloaded radio to what it says it should be in either the thread or website.
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Also, SR4.0 has wireless tether included in the ROM.
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Personally, I'd opt for the 2.15.10.05.06 Incredible GB radio, as it's resulted in a low-but-reliable signal in some previously intermittent-signal areas I frequent here in the same area of the country. It's important to note that the effectiveness of the various radios seems to vary from phone to phone and location to location, so YMMV.
As for a custom ROM, if you like Sense, the previously mentioned SkyRaider 4.0 is nice, but if not, CyanogenMod 7 is really quite lovely. A Sense ROM will obviously be more like what you already have, but I have non-technical friends who have transitioned to a vanilla build with no problem.
Kernels can also help with battery life. I use Incredikernel--there's a 12/23 Sense kernel if you want to stick with a Sense ROM, or the 4/19 stable if you go with a vanilla gingerbread build, as well as an upcoming new release (currently in beta).
My understanding is that flashing radios is the most dangerous part, but it's also very straightforward. I know modding the phone can be a bit intimidating, but as long as you read and follow instructions, make frequent backups, don't go installing random things willy-nilly, and ensure you've got sufficient battery life, the risks are minimal. Plus, it can become a bit addictive.
If you're in warranty, root. If you brick it you will just be without a phone for a few days while you ask for a refurb (I know, I'm currently on my 3rd DInc, first one bricked and second got USB Bricked), but if that's not acceptable than just don't flash a radio. If you don't flash radios, there is a very low chance of getting bricked.
It sounds like you don't have much personal stuff on the phone. I'd make sure my contacts are backed up then do a factory reset. Let Google bing your contacts back then do a *228 Option 1. This way you'll have at least gotten rid of any interfering apps (I've heard that Task Killer can cause issues) and you'll know that your phone is programmed to the current towers.
THEN, if it still has problems, of if you just want to explore, you can start playing!
i have had my phone since it came out and rooted it as soon as i could and i still have luckily not bricked it. just make sure you back everything up and check md5 sums with the radios and test different radios, since some will work better than others.
You guys are speaking a whole different language
I have no idea what most of you are talking about and don't know where to look for this stuff.
"Root it, flash the .04.08 leaked evo radio" No idea what you saying here
"If you do ROOT your Inc you'll want to flash a custom ROM to get the optimized experience.
I would suggest SkyRaider 4.0
Also if you upgrade to the evo radio (2.15.4.08) BE CAREFUL! This is the easiest way to brick your phone.
Download the radio and also download the app called MAND5 from the market.
ManD5 will verify the checksum of the radio.
Compare the checksum to the downloaded radio to what it says it should be in either the thread or website." Ditto-no idea what radio is
What is radio? I don't want to listen to radio.
What would happen if I just tried the *228 option?
Verizon said I needed to do this every few months but I am concerned it will mess up the root job my friend did on the phone.
Your not gonna mess anything up doing a *228, don't worry about that.
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*228 wont do anything to your phone just type *22899 and it skips all the talk and goes straight to the, I guess you call it the update screen.
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What is radio? I don't want to listen to radio.
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Lmao...
The radio on your phone is the firmware that is used to communicate with the cell tower. Your going to want to look at this thread and read it over a couple times before even rooting your phone...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=744807
...and also read the thread that's hyperlinked in that post.
From your last response, I wouldn't changed anything. There are all kinds of tutorials that take you through a step by step process to root. If you do a little research, you could have all your questions answered.
Words of warning
One of the surest ways to brick one of these is by not being patient enough. Never if your flashing something never pull the battery. Only flash when your battery is over 50% if it dies in the middle of flashing something it can brick it. Flashing roms and kernals is pretty safe following the above 2 cautions.
Flashing radios is kinda on the edge due to it accessing a completely diffrent memory space really you only need to worry if the radio you flashed is not the correct one for your phone or is corrupt due to some downloading error. This is why the md5 is checked if it passes chances are the download happened as it was susposed to and is the correct file.
Probably right
Shouldn't mess with it.
Be nice if all this wasn't so "underground" and one could walk in to a store and say
unlock this and give me what I want with a guarantee that it isn't going to be an expensive paperweight.
I got this thing thinking I would finally have decent internet speeds.
If I had known I was going to have to update roms and radios and who knows what else every other month I never would have got the stupid thing.
I haven't had a cell phone for 10 years.
And didn't miss it either.
See people everyday clutching the thing like it was an umbilical cord to momma.
Ridiculous. . . . and sad.
So I am going to ask again, if I do the *22899 thing, will it screw up my tether or rooted phone from getting online?
Will I have to alter anything else after *22899 ?
z0nker said:
Shouldn't mess with it.
Be nice if all this wasn't so "underground" and one could walk in to a store and say
unlock this and give me what I want with a guarantee that it isn't going to be an expensive paperweight.
I got this thing thinking I would finally have decent internet speeds.
If I had known I was going to have to update roms and radios and who knows what else every other month I never would have got the stupid thing.
I haven't had a cell phone for 10 years.
And didn't miss it either.
See people everyday clutching the thing like it was an umbilical cord to momma.
Ridiculous. . . . and sad.
So I am going to ask again, if I do the *22899 thing, will it screw up my tether or rooted phone from getting online?
Will I have to alter anything else after *22899 ?
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Your phone should reboot after the programming. If it doesn't, turn it off and turn it back on.
Reading your input above, you might be more comfortable with something less complicated. Go back to your rotary dial land line.
That helped
That seems to have helped anyway.
Thanks for the replies, even from you young pompous types.
I don't think anyone is being pompous here.
Rooting a phone is not always the answer. You need to understand what you're doing, and what the risks are. There is plenty of information on this forum to learn what rooting, flashing roms, and flashing radios entails... If you are interested. If you are not, I would not recommend rooting.
Verizon gives you what they are comfortable guaranteeing. They understandably are not going to support multiple ROMs or unofficial radios. My wife's phone is stock, because *I* don't want to support it. Nothing wrong with that.
It is rather hard to brick this phone if you understand what you're doing. On the other hand, if you don't know what *NOT* to do, you could end up with a brick fairly easily. Read the posts out there designed for beginners. Understand what you want to do. Make sure you have time to finish what you want to do. If any of these things seem like too much to do, leave it stock.
^^agreed.
i mean if you are not comfortable rooting your phone then you probably shouldnt do it, but the only way you will learn is by doing it yourself. thats how most of us know bout everything you can do once your phone is rooted.
My suggestion, if you're confused or uncomfortable with the technology, DON'T MESS WITH IT. Lots of people use the stock phone software very happily. If you take it, completely unmodified, to Verizon, and explain your problem, they'll be happy to assist you.
You don't have to root. You don't have to do anything you aren't comfortable with. Good luck.
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So I went back to 4.0.1 and was getting a steady three bars on my phone
Went to 4.0.2 and am getting a steady 2 bars on 4g
Unlocked, and rooted on 4.0.2, and was getting really sporadic signal behavior, including signal loss
All these readings are from the same location in my home.
Then I went back to 4.0.1 and tested all three conditions and got the same results.
I'm no programmer so I can't say why unlocking/rooting would make a difference, but I believe it's making enough of a difference at this point that I'm going to stay stock and locked at 4.0.2 for now.
You guys that are having a lot of problems, are you unlocked or rooted?
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Now that it's been a few days..... I want others to chime in on this report (no one answered this question in the original thread).
I was having a ton of issues, thought that VZW did something to make it slightly better (which I still believe they did), but stilll... I have issues, although not as bad as the second 12 hours of ownership.
I had made the call to tech support and was then going to return the phone.... when I got home I brought the device back to stock carrier 4.0.1 ROM floating around). Problems were almost completely gone!?! An hour later, the update came and I was worried about the upgrade screwing the radio that was acting better (not that it was perfect by any means!!). So..... after a little thought, I figured I could always go back to 4.0.1 and/or return it. I let the update do it's thing.
There seems to be zero difference between 4.0.1 and 4.0.2, when it comes to the radio.
I was still scared to do much..... I didn't install any apps while I watched the phone for a few hours. Then only Google's apps... the next day the rest of my apps (w/small exceptions, detailed below). Everything ran smoothly.... including the radio. Now it isn't nearly as good as the DX radio in my last phone, BUT..... at least I wasn't constantly with -120dbm and was able to use the phone, as a phone!
So.... I figured after another day that VZW must have fixed something.
Cool, right? Not sure..... I am stock, unlocked, and unrooted. I am afraid to root the phone..... I can't fathom how root could cause a radio issue, but am wondering how many others might have issue with and without root.
Now.... I am still seeing issues, but not nearly as bad. I'll root the phone tonight to see what happens, but would like others input.
Stock Verizon Nexus here and where I normally get full 4g I get maybe 2-3 3g bars. Most of the time I get zero signal where I at least get 3g.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
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Great article. Sure as heck opened my eyes up. Thanks.
Root doesn't touch the radio. All it does it give you admin right over the phone.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
player911 said:
Root doesn't touch the radio. All it does it give you admin right over the phone.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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Exactly right it must have just been the cell towers by the ops area
I'm currently having issues now before and after root
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5254/investigating-the-galaxy-nexus-lte-signal-issue
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Just read that earlier today. Lots of great info inside.
The story continues
So, just to follow up. I did return my device for a new GNEX and have not had the same issues. I have been reluctant to root my new phone, but I still don't see any reason why the two would be related. I think I had a bad device. I think there are a substantial number of people that are getting DOA devices, but it doesn't appear to a majority. I'll report back if/when I decide to root and flash anything to my new device.
abendx said:
Now that it's been a few days..... I want others to chime in on this report (no one answered this question in the original thread).
I was having a ton of issues, thought that VZW did something to make it slightly better (which I still believe they did), but stilll... I have issues, although not as bad as the second 12 hours of ownership.
I had made the call to tech support and was then going to return the phone.... when I got home I brought the device back to stock carrier 4.0.1 ROM floating around). Problems were almost completely gone!?! An hour later, the update came and I was worried about the upgrade screwing the radio that was acting better (not that it was perfect by any means!!). So..... after a little thought, I figured I could always go back to 4.0.1 and/or return it. I let the update do it's thing.
There seems to be zero difference between 4.0.1 and 4.0.2, when it comes to the radio.
I was still scared to do much..... I didn't install any apps while I watched the phone for a few hours. Then only Google's apps... the next day the rest of my apps (w/small exceptions, detailed below). Everything ran smoothly.... including the radio. Now it isn't nearly as good as the DX radio in my last phone, BUT..... at least I wasn't constantly with -120dbm and was able to use the phone, as a phone!
So.... I figured after another day that VZW must have fixed something.
Cool, right? Not sure..... I am stock, unlocked, and unrooted. I am afraid to root the phone..... I can't fathom how root could cause a radio issue, but am wondering how many others might have issue with and without root.
Now.... I am still seeing issues, but not nearly as bad. I'll root the phone tonight to see what happens, but would like others input.
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Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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Honestly, based on what you wrote I'd say just disable the apps you don't want showing up and call it good. The Sense based ROMs are actually quite nice and HTC has been good about timely updates. Turning things off like Facebook notifications, weather updates, location service, and Google Now if you don't need it will all help. Enjoy your new phone.
I agree with mmuzy. I got my One right after they blocked HTCDev on this phone and the phone it worked perfect with out root. Speed was good, battery life was ok considering the size of the battery. My only reason for being hell bent on rooting this phone was ads on YouTube lol Pretty sure you already know this but disabling the animations in the developer settings speeds up the phone just a tad as well.
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Coste5a9 said:
Just as a preface, wasn't sure if this should go in this section or the general section, but figured since this was Q&A I'd pick here. Anyways, I just got my HTC One today and am coming from Samsung Galaxy S3 (droid 3 and OG before that) and had them all rooted with custom roms, but have been reading about the process to unlock/root/s-off this device. I downloaded rumrunner and tried to run the program once already and got a "........f******" error and it closed without working, but that's not what I'm making the thread for. I'm really terrified of messing up the phone because I'm broke and can't afford to pay the insurance deductible if I break it and have to claim it was stolen. All of this back story to ask the question of: Is this one of those phones that NEEDS to be rooted to be worth using or can I expect acceptable battery life, speed, & use by simply disabling as much bloatware as possible and keeping the phone stock? Thank you for your advice, I appreciate it!
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First things first, with the latest 4.3 update rumrunner doesn't work so even if you wanted to root and s-off it wouldn't be possible yet. Second, unlike Samsung devices, this thing is buttery smooth with or without the bloat so honestly your experience will still be excellent either way. I had an S4 before this phone that was rooted, all bloat removed, ad blocking, greenify, etc and I can tell you right now that right out of the box the HTC One was STILL way smoother than the S4 with NOTHING done to it. I'm running BoneStock at the moment which is basically just a stock rom, so I think HTC did an excellent job with Sense 5 on this phone.
I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
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I'm not going to try to sway you one way or another, just sharing my story. I've had the VZW HTC One since launch (Aug 22nd) and never saw a need to root or unlock it out the box. Everything was running great, the phone was smooth.
Suddenly, the 4.3 update arrived and my previously (close to) perfect phone has been plagued by issues. Multiple FCs from core and basic apps, piss poor data connectivity, and worst of all, terrible battery. Since accepting the update, my phone radio has been sucking roughly 45-60% battery at all time. Now I'm growing desperate for a way to unlock my device and control it. I went from around 14-16 hours of medium to heavy usage to barely getting 8 hours from light use. Once again, this is only my story, but, I know that having more control over my device will give me the ability to change my radio and fix my issues. So I vote yay to unlock/root.
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Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
Crawshayi said:
Try a factory reset. I was running the 4.3 OTA rom for a few days and I didn't experience any of the issues you just mentioned. I'm now on 4.3 BoneStock with zero issues as well.
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I agree with this. OTAs are nice in that we don't lose all our apps and settings but they're kind of like dirty flashing a custom ROM. If you have a gremlin infestation with the OTA then I'd start with a factory reset and see if things run better when you clean install your apps.
Well, after a few days of time to test after the full wipe and manual restore I'm still experiencing terrible battery life. As I stated before, it was mainly phone radio taking the brunt of the battery, and that still seems to be the case. On the positive side of things, I do have twice the free space available now.
Welp, I just claimed a new DI2 on insurance, it's sadly not rooted. I'm pretty depressed because I never understood the entire rooting process and rom flashing, I happened to get it just right on my old phone without having random force closes and reboots constantly. Feels pretty bad.
Anyway, I tried to do the guides posted, but they all refer me to a site called http://revolutionary.io/ and it's offline. Does anyone know where I can go to get the required files? I tried looking around, nothing comes up on the interwebs.
Do I even need to do this? It's been so long since I've done this, the last time I rooted a phone was 2013. And even then, if you look at my posts, it was pure spoonfeeding that got me through it. :silly:
TL;DR
http://revolutionary.io/ is offline and I don't think I can root my "new" DI2.