differences between BB and Android? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Why is it BB apps update instantly and Android ones don't?
Examples
Facebook notifications aren't instant. You have to refresh to see em.
Emails, same thing or it you can set it up to check every 15 min.
BB if someone emails me, I get it as soon as it's sent. Same for facebook.
Are their apps or ways to change this?

buffnutz1 said:
Why is it BB apps update instantly and Android ones don't?
Examples
Facebook notifications aren't instant. You have to refresh to see em.
Emails, same thing or it you can set it up to check every 15 min.
BB if someone emails me, I get it as soon as it's sent. Same for facebook.
Are their apps or ways to change this?
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I use Gmail and it is instant push notification. I don't have to sync anything. I use exchange for my work email which is also push notification and it is instant without any syncing required.
As far as FB goes, I have mine set to notify me through my gmail account and as soon as I receive a comment I get an email instantly.
I also came from a BB and personally will never go back. Good luck

I found the BB market not very useful..but I did have a VZ curve without wifi.
I had issues with syncing working well with task killing..
Once you upgrade to android 2.2 get rid of advanced task killer and automatic task killer..
I've had no issues with syncing since..

buffnutz1 said:
Why is it BB apps update instantly and Android ones don't?
Examples
Facebook notifications aren't instant. You have to refresh to see em.
Emails, same thing or it you can set it up to check every 15 min.
BB if someone emails me, I get it as soon as it's sent. Same for facebook.
Are their apps or ways to change this?
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Ohh yeah and another thing that I hated about my BB, the thing had virtually no memory on it and I had to constantly deal with a memory leak issue that was basically a known factor with BB's.
I was constantly cleaning and clearing cache on a daily if not 2-3 times a day basis.
My Dinc has never had any issues with this and in fact has plenty of memory to go around.
The only other problem i could complain about on my Dinc is the battery issues but I have been using the Seidio 1750 battery, and have rooted the phone and am running SetCPU and also turned off "Background data always on" and my battery life is awesome now!

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Push email on the google mail application?

I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
shaliru said:
I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
EroThraX said:
Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
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Yeah I always use mobile data too. I hardly ever use wifi unless I'm downloading something big to my phone such as copilot maps.
Anyway, I've set it up with activesync now and push is working flawlessly. Sometimes I get notified of emails before they even arrive on my pc.
hot-fuzz said:
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
got it set up on the one i am using and it seems to work just fine. Emails appear on the phone within seconds of arriving at Gmail.
I do sometimes get periods where it is a bit slower though, i think generally when in a bad signal area where i only have 2G. I'm guessing when it has lower signal or only 2G, it may slow down the checking to save battery power or bandwidth or something....
shaliru said:
hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
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That would be very useful. Thinking of doing it myself.
If i have mine setup for every 5 minutes thats 13 times every hour (including on the hour). I need to know if exchange polls take up more battery than checking 13 times an hour, if i get less than 13 emails an hour via exchange (which i do).
hmmmmm
Be interesting what peoples findings are on battery life and different ways to grab email.
I want to get back to the main topic.
I came from HTC Hero where Gmail push (in the gmail app) worked perfect - also on the 2.1 custom roms.
Not on the Desire it does not push the mails instantley. I don't want to go the way over the HTC Mail app...
Anyone has an idea how to fix it?

Facebook doesnt stay logged in?

Forgive me in advance, I am asking this question on behalf of my gf that has an Epic.
Every couple hours she gets a prompt to login to facebook which is becomming very annoying. I have an Evo and have never had this issue but I also use the official facebook app, it appears that the epic has its own facebook app which appears to be the one causing us troubles. Does anyone else have this issue with facebook or am I doing something wrong? It would seem there is a way to stay logged in because if you are constantly signing in it kinda defeats the purpose of widgets.
brandenk said:
Forgive me in advance, I am asking this question on behalf of my gf that has an Epic.
Every couple hours she gets a prompt to login to facebook which is becomming very annoying. I have an Evo and have never had this issue but I also use the official facebook app, it appears that the epic has its own facebook app which appears to be the one causing us troubles. Does anyone else have this issue with facebook or am I doing something wrong? It would seem there is a way to stay logged in because if you are constantly signing in it kinda defeats the purpose of widgets.
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This isn't going to answer your question but I'm just letting you know I get the same issue. I just either leave it or clear the notification up. Wouldn't mind finding a solution to this as well. Good luck!
I was afraid of that, so its either deal with the constant logins to get everything synced properly in your contacts, messages, etc., or go with something like Pure Messanger Widget and stock facebook app?
yep same issue here, ive learned though it does it only when i check my facebook on the epic
if I leave it alone it doesnt log out
There is a similar post in the General forum, but I had the same issues.
When I experienced the same issues, I was still on the stock version of Facebook.apk. The SNS account kept prompting for me to log in again, with each sync interval.
I tried removing and adding the account again and rebooting in between, yet still the same problem. I finally had upgrade Facebook to the latest update that was the cause of all these login issues for older versions.
The upgrade fixed the problem, but I did find an issue when you use the built-in Facebook contact sync alone it may not carry profile pictures over to SMS. I had to manually add the account, this ended up putting two Facebook sync processes on my phone. The first is for Facebook to actually let you login to the app (just has sync contacts), and the second is the process that will sync both contacts and calendar events again. (the original sync we're used to)
Reference thread
EDIT: I just got the same SNS login prompt again.
I've never had any login problems on the facebook app, but I also don't use the feeds and updates widget.
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This only seems to be happening to me more often recently. I swear it's asking me to log in to Facebook & Twitter every hour or so now. When I go to Accounts & Sync I see that there are two accounts (even though I only have one account for each). One Twitter & one Facebook account say there was an error with the syncing process.
I unchecked the sync processes that were having errors. I'll let you know if I keep being asked to log in.
I have this problem too. It says my sync is experiencing errors and its cause it logged me out of Facebook. Once I log back in its fine.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
Also i don't have auto sync enabled. I manually refresh them.
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zanderman112 said:
Also i don't have auto sync enabled. I manually refresh them.
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whats the setup on that phone atm? I had these same issues(as stated above) and now I'm Flashed to nebula 1.0.7 with froyo and its beast without any problems. Facebook hasn't bugged me once lol
brandenk said:
Forgive me in advance, I am asking this question on behalf of my gf that has an Epic.
Every couple hours she gets a prompt to login to facebook which is becomming very annoying. I have an Evo and have never had this issue but I also use the official facebook app, it appears that the epic has its own facebook app which appears to be the one causing us troubles. Does anyone else have this issue with facebook or am I doing something wrong? It would seem there is a way to stay logged in because if you are constantly signing in it kinda defeats the purpose of widgets.
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I used to have this issue, but I figured out a simple workaround.
I use the FACEBOOK APP to sync and not the adding a Facebook account under the account section in settings. After I deleted the Facebook account there and made a sync with the Facebook App, the annoying prompt went away and hasn't come back since.
Hasseo said:
I used to have this issue, but I figured out a simple workaround.
I use the FACEBOOK APP to sync and not the adding a Facebook account under the account section in settings. After I deleted the Facebook account there and made a sync with the Facebook App, the annoying prompt went away and hasn't come back since.
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After doing this, I bet you don't have your friends profile pictures in the stock SMS application anymore. You also wouldn't have Facebook events in your stock Calendar application.
I have the same problem. Funny thing is my widget works fine gets updates and I can upload a picture from within the widget. If I take a picture, or select one from the gallery, then click Share facebook, it will not upload. started one day last week.
On stock rooted and don't get it hourly or even 2x/day that I can remember, just every morning...sometimes it doesn't make it the first time, usually it re-connects, good til the next morning....
I had the same problem. I had to delete the stock sync and use the FB app's sync option but like mentioned above you lose the profile pics on the stock sms so I downloaded "go sms" and the pictures are back...it beats having to log in every hour for sure.
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Same issue here. Facebook app from market works fine but the integrated samsung facebook sync and widget have problems. Ridiculous, samsung needs to fix their software.
treeserton said:
Ridiculous, samsung needs to fix their software.
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I would say it's a Facebook issue. It stopped working properly after the recent Facebook update. It affected all versions of the application, including the Epic's stock version of Facebook.
I do actually. But, no calendar sync.
Sent from the Epic that bites.
I can say that my gf and my brother both have the same issue, only reason i can think Samsung isn't attempting a quick fix is the rumored 2.2 update for the 21st of this month, which will probably have an updated app that fixes the problem. Although as important as facebook is to people I am surprised there is no maintenance release that fixes this,
Same issues here. I was thinking it might have had something to do with networking issues - I usually leave wifi and 4g on all the time. I noticed that I usually get the prompts when I leave home in the morning (go out of range of my house's wifi) and when 4g disconnects and reconnects in spotty 4g areas. I was wondering if maybe the session expires when you switch networks. Same thing would happen on my laptop when I would bring it from home to work or a coffee shop. FB might recognize that the connection is different. Meh, just a theory I thought I'd throw out there.

[Q] Android mail eating battery! Please help!

This may have been addressed, but a search didn't reveal anything exactly like this. Please bear in mind that I'm an Android newbie!
I bought the Incredible 2 last Thursday. No rooting, nothing weird, still mostly stock. This morning it's running very slow, screen transitions jerky, etc. and even text based email takes minutes to open. I messed around in settings, and notice that Mail (com.htc.android.mail) is using 48% of my battery, more than twice what the screen is using! I force close, and the phone speeds right up, lag is gone, screen transitions smooth but, minutes later, Mail comes back on line and the phone goes to crap.
I've used more that 1/2 my battery in two hours. I notice that the uptime is 1 hr 58 minutes, and the awake time is 1 hr 44 minutes, so I assume that the mail app is also preventing the phone from sleeping.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!!
This may sound obvious, but did you try resetting your phone? Turn fastboot off (settings > applications > click fastboot so it is unchecked) then kill mail, and before it has a chance to restart hold the power button, then shut down. The restart option might work, but for things like this I prefer a good old fashioned power down, power up. Anyways, power your phone back on by pushing the power button for two seconds or so. Then see how it goes. This is an error that I have not heard about, but a reset is a universal problem solver. If it doesn't work, tell us what kind of email accounts you have set up (pop, imap, exchange) and how many, and also the settings for checking the mail.
Hopefully the restart will fix it though.
Sent from my Incredible 2 with Xda app
Thanks! My limited Android knowledge told me to try a restart, but I actually didn't know how on the Incredible 2!!
Anyway, the problem went away for a couple hours, then came back!
I use a POP server for my work email, and gmail for personal. I really don't understand this, as nothing has changed since yesterday, but the phone has slowed to a crawl!
Try a third party email app. I don't know of any offhand as I only use gmail on my phone. My gmail account checks my imap account on another host so it's all together, and I can distinguish which account is which on the emails through gmail tags.
Umm I think this will require a factory reset, because you can't uninstall stock mail nor freeze it without root
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA App
You can temp root, and freeze the stock mail app if that is the way you decide to go. Instructions found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068544. But that sounds more like something faulty with the software, because like I said, I have never heard of that happening before. I would take it back to Verizon, complain incessantly, and point out that you could have fixed it yourself if the phone had an unlocked bootloader
Do you have them set to check mail constantly, push, or are they on a delay? Can you use imap for work instead of pop? I have four accounts set up on mine, including an exchange, and three imap accounts. The fact that it just started happening leads me to believe something broke in the system, though. A factory reset and re-flash may indeed fix the problem. Also, do you have good 3g coverage most of the day? Check your time without signal under battery status in settings. Click on cell standby and it should give it to you. Or are you using wifi most of the day?
Sorry for the rambling questions, just writing stuff out as I think of it. Trying to narrow down what the problem could be.
Thanks, again.
I'm using the mail settings that the school requires, so can't change them. Currently set only to update when the app is opened.
I generally get good cellular reception at work, and I have wifi as well. I've been trying it with or without wifi today, with no changes. I'll try a reset and see if that helps.
I just mentioned trying another app because I don't see these problems and I do not have the stock mail app configured in any way.
RobWoodall said:
Thanks, again.
I'm using the mail settings that the school requires, so can't change them. Currently set only to update when the app is opened.
I generally get good cellular reception at work, and I have wifi as well. I've been trying it with or without wifi today, with no changes. I'll try a reset and see if that helps.
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Factory reset should probably fix it
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RobWoodall said:
This may have been addressed, but a search didn't reveal anything exactly like this. Please bear in mind that I'm an Android newbie!
I bought the Incredible 2 last Thursday. No rooting, nothing weird, still mostly stock. This morning it's running very slow, screen transitions jerky, etc. and even text based email takes minutes to open. I messed around in settings, and notice that Mail (com.htc.android.mail) is using 48% of my battery, more than twice what the screen is using! I force close, and the phone speeds right up, lag is gone, screen transitions smooth but, minutes later, Mail comes back on line and the phone goes to crap.
I've used more that 1/2 my battery in two hours. I notice that the uptime is 1 hr 58 minutes, and the awake time is 1 hr 44 minutes, so I assume that the mail app is also preventing the phone from sleeping.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!!
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I've had the Inc 1 and now the two. I've always turned off the (auto sync) this would require yyou to open your mail and manually refresh or of you use the sync all widget it works that was as well. Seems to save a ton of battery only drawback being you have to manually check it. Ie. No mail notifications. Just a thought maybe you want to give it a shot.
Thanks, everyone. Using a combination of all your advise, the problem is resolved. I factory reset the phone, then installed only my gmail account. This worked fine all of yesterday, so I finally got off my butt and learned how to use gmail to read and send my work email last night. That seems to be working well. I'm still getting email notifications, but gmail is only using 3% of my battery, as opposed to the 48% that Android mail was using.
Still don't know what caused the trouble, but I'm very pleased with the solution.
Thanks again!!
Email battery problem also on Nexus S
I have also the problem that the standard email is consuming the biggest part of the battery - mostly over 50%. I use an exchange account and a pop email, but both not synchronized automatically (manual sync interval), and I do not use them so often - max. one sync a day...
Anyone an idea how to improve this?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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HTC mail has always been a battery drainer for me. I just use the Gmail app.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
HTC mail has always been a battery drainer for me. I just use the Gmail app.
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Or k9 mail....just set the settings to update manually...
Gmail is the only non battery hog.
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K-9 Mail
I had also the problem (as mentioned above) with the standard android email programm and a so related short battery life. Since I deleted all email configurations there and installed K-9 mail client instead, battery life improved a lot. Before I could use my phone about 2 days, now it lasts for around 5-6 days...

Slow Gmail updates?

It seems like my Gmail notifications are running 5 to 10 mins behind the message actually arriving. I can force a refresh in the Gmail app, but it's weird the updates are so laggy. Never had this problem on SGII or Atrix or any 2.x phone.
AmesCell said:
It seems like my Gmail notifications are running 5 to 10 mins behind the message actually arriving. I can force a refresh in the Gmail app, but it's weird the updates are so laggy. Never had this problem on SGII or Atrix or any 2.x phone.
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what network are you running on your GNexus?
AmesCell said:
It seems like my Gmail notifications are running 5 to 10 mins behind the message actually arriving. I can force a refresh in the Gmail app, but it's weird the updates are so laggy. Never had this problem on SGII or Atrix or any 2.x phone.
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No problem here.
AmesCell said:
It seems like my Gmail notifications are running 5 to 10 mins behind the message actually arriving. I can force a refresh in the Gmail app, but it's weird the updates are so laggy. Never had this problem on SGII or Atrix or any 2.x phone.
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Have you set up as PUSH email? If not, then it will only automatically check every 5 or 10 min for new emails.
Your issue may be linked to my issue with Google Talk and push notifications
My old Nexus One receives email almost immediately, while with the Galaxy Nexus it is a bit random - it can arrive instantly, or it can arrive few minutes late. And they are both connected using the same wifi network. But I'm not really that bothered.
ATT, but it does the same on my home wifi and office wifi. It is push.
oscillik said:
Your issue may be linked to my issue with Google Talk and push notifications
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It's a Google Apps account with Talk disabled on the entire domain. I keep getting notifications from Talk about not being able to authenticate. I wonder if it's all related.
AmesCell said:
It's a Google Apps account with Talk disabled on the entire domain. I keep getting notifications from Talk about not being able to authenticate. I wonder if it's all related.
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Well, as I said in my thread, all push notifications are affected...it seems like the phone loses connection to Google C2DM servers or something.
I am currently wiping my phone so as to rule out any interference from third party apps.
I found a fix
My gmail is slow also...every 10 or so minutes or longer.
I wenr in to sync setrings and selected gmail to sync. It is instant now.

[Q] k9mail push (imap idle) inconsistent

I am having some weird issues with k9mail client with push mail not working consistently. Does anyone else have this problem?
Random times during the day, mails do not get pushed to me. I can't really discern a particular pattern of when it works and when it doesn't so I haven't been able to "reproduce" the problem at will. I've also turned on debugging and have been looking at the logs via aLogCat.
For Example
Let's say I start watching the logs at 1:00pm and this was the last time anything was logged by k9mail. Then I get an email to one of my accounts at 1:10pm (I found out via desktop mail client) but this mail does not get pushed to me so I don't get notified and k9mail is still not logging anything so there's no activity by the mail client.
1:25pm comes around, which is over the 24 minute imap idle refresh time configured but I still don't see any mails being pushed to me.
Sometimes the mail finally gets pushed, sometimes it doesn't get pushed for over an hour.
Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions?
I am currently confined to using k9mail because it allows me to reply to emails received at one account with another account without using gmail's "Send As" feature.
Thanks!
newalker91 said:
At the times you're expecting the mail to push through, is your phone on or idle? Do you notice any discernible difference between the two?
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Yes, the phone is on but it doesn't seem to matter if it is on (screen on) or idle (screen off).
This would be the sequence of events:
1) The phone is on but screen off (idling)
2) I notice that I received an email through my desktop PC
3) Look at my phone, LED is not blinking so it has not been pushed the email
4) I turn the screen on and unlock it, still is not pushed
5) I opened up the k9mail app, still not pushed
At this point, I can turn the screen back off and eventually I would get notified but when this problem is occurring, it takes too long for the mail to get pushed to me and this problem really defeats the purpose of push mail.
Thanks for the reply!
newalker91 said:
Seems like you're not the only one with this issue. I would completely remove the application, wipe cache on the phone in recovery (power + volume up if not rooted), reinstall and set it back up. If that doesn't fix push, set it to poll every 5 minutes.
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I've definitely seen reports of this issue. Really not sure if it's the OS, phone, or k9mail.
Here's a k9mail bug that was reported that I added onto with logs:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=3847
If anyone else is having the same issues, please add a comment so that it get some more attention.
Could this be the same issue described in detail here?
code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=4347
This issue has recently appeared on my phone as well. I had been using K9 for my work email for over a year on my Evo 4G without any problems. About two months ago I picked up a Samsung SG3 (Sprint) and installed K9 on there as well, with no problems whatsoever. All of a sudden around September 5th, I started noticing that I would get my desktop notifications before my phone would receive my emails, which I couldn't recall ever happening in the entire time I had been using K9. I had not make any network changes, system changes, or anything like that. It just stopped working as it normally did one day.
Long story short, I've been having the same issue as you described in the OP. I've tried installing and uninstalling multiple versions of K9 (4.119, 4.200, 4.201, 4.304, 4.306) with the same results.
My work email is hosted by GoDaddy (yes, they are terrible) and as you can expect, I tried getting some support from them and they said that everything was working as it should. I've also tried sending the K9 devs a few emails regarding the issue along with a bunch of catlogs, but not one of them has responded to me. Oh well, it was a great app when it was working.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I had tried setting up 3 different imap email accounts on K9, my work account hosted by GoDaddy, a Gmail account, and a Yahoo account. The Yahoo and Gmail ones pushed emails immediately, whereas the work one would only push at the "refresh idle connection" intervals.

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