Begining to Regret Rooting - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok Guys, first of all thanks for all your help in here, and for walking all of us Noobs thru so many things.
Ok, so after alot of reading (have to stop, it's killing me in school), I decided to Root for 3 things: Nandroid backups, Wifi tethering, and removing the 30 fps cap.
I did the unrEVOked 3.21 one click root. EASY!!! I appreciate the step by step walkthrus here. I thought that would be ALL I need for these 3 things. Obviously I read or understood wrong in these threads. So after forcing myself to use Fresh 3.2 (since I don't have to wipe), I did it and my phone was fine.
Problems. I cant wifi tether. Downloaded the wifi from the market. Connects to phone, but doesn't connect to the internet. I measured fps, and it is still avg 28. Why?!? I read that Fresh 3.2 would un cap that. My signal has been a little worse, and the Battery is absolutely horrible.
Please help guys. I'm really regretting this, Plus now I hear that HTC is doing an upgrade that removes the cap. Will I be able to use it if I restore my nandroid to when I first rooted, and forget about any Roms. I am NOT familiar with ROMs or Kernels, and stay away form them as I don't want to wipe my phone.
Thanks Guys in advance.

you need to read, read, and read some more. use titanium backup and backup all your apps then load a custom rom.

ManUtd777 said:
Ok Guys, first of all thanks for all your help in here, and for walking all of us Noobs thru so many things.
Ok, so after alot of reading (have to stop, it's killing me in school), I decided to Root for 3 things: Nandroid backups, Wifi tethering, and removing the 30 fps cap.
I did the unrEVOked 3.21 one click root. EASY!!! I appreciate the step by step walkthrus here. I thought that would be ALL I need for these 3 things. Obviously I read or understood wrong in these threads. So after forcing myself to use Fresh 3.2 (since I don't have to wipe), I did it and my phone was fine.
Problems. I cant wifi tether. Downloaded the wifi from the market. Connects to phone, but doesn't connect to the internet. I measured fps, and it is still avg 28. Why?!? I read that Fresh 3.2 would un cap that. My signal has been a little worse, and the Battery is absolutely horrible.
Please help guys. I'm really regretting this, Plus now I hear that HTC is doing an upgrade that removes the cap. Will I be able to use it if I restore my nandroid to when I first rooted, and forget about any Roms. I am NOT familiar with ROMs or Kernels, and stay away form them as I don't want to wipe my phone.
Thanks Guys in advance.
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Fresh 3.2 comes with a stock Sprint kernel. Just download another kernel and it will unlock your fps.

ManUtd777 said:
Ok Guys, first of all thanks for all your help in here, and for walking all of us Noobs thru so many things.
Ok, so after alot of reading (have to stop, it's killing me in school), I decided to Root for 3 things: Nandroid backups, Wifi tethering, and removing the 30 fps cap.
I did the unrEVOked 3.21 one click root. EASY!!! I appreciate the step by step walkthrus here. I thought that would be ALL I need for these 3 things. Obviously I read or understood wrong in these threads. So after forcing myself to use Fresh 3.2 (since I don't have to wipe), I did it and my phone was fine.
Problems. I cant wifi tether. Downloaded the wifi from the market. Connects to phone, but doesn't connect to the internet. I measured fps, and it is still avg 28. Why?!? I read that Fresh 3.2 would un cap that. My signal has been a little worse, and the Battery is absolutely horrible.
Please help guys. I'm really regretting this, Plus now I hear that HTC is doing an upgrade that removes the cap. Will I be able to use it if I restore my nandroid to when I first rooted, and forget about any Roms. I am NOT familiar with ROMs or Kernels, and stay away form them as I don't want to wipe my phone.
Thanks Guys in advance.
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First things first, ROMs don't uncap FPS or allow wifi tethering - kernals do. Since Fresh 3.2 runs on the stock HTC (unreleased) kernal obviously it wouldn't be unlocked. Secondly, you are having the downsides of it all because you didn't wipe when you are supposed to wipe before installing any ROM from scratch. I have zero issues with battery life or signal on my EVO w/ Fresh 3.2 (my battery lasts me the minimum of 14 hours on moderate use) and signal.. I don't have an answer for that b/c I spend a majority of my time in New York City where I ALWAYS have signal

This has absolutely nothing to do with Development.

you're regretting it because you read up on absolutely nothing and want someone to hold your hand, explaining every single thing.

Great first post.. .....

Here's wireless tether:
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
I use pre 9. Pre 8 and pre 9 would work for you.

Tell us what you don't want to lose from wiping and we will tell you how to get it back the easiest way. IE. Contacts? make sure you sync with google before you wipe and when you will get them all back. Other than that I dont mind the wipes.

VinceOB said:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Development.
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QFT !!!
sounds like the OP needs to read and read and read some more

ManUtd777 said:
Ok Guys, first of all thanks for all your help in here, and for walking all of us Noobs thru so many things.
Ok, so after alot of reading (have to stop, it's killing me in school), I decided to Root for 3 things: Nandroid backups, Wifi tethering, and removing the 30 fps cap.
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I think the reason you're regretting it is becuase you didn't do nearly the reading you say you did..... you have to read through the threads and have some idea of what you're doing to get anything out of rooting and flashing otherwise its just going to be a headache for you. I say if you don't have time to do the research, stick to stock unrooted. That one click rooting deal is great, but making it too easy for people who really don't know what they're doing has its draw backs...

all the information in these forums can be OVERWHELMING.
trying to be patient and read every little thing can be a task, not to mention reading everyones replies looking for solutions.. its crazytown.
even searching can be a hassle if you dont know what KEY WORDS to search for.
then you get the lashings if you didnt search properly.
its a PITA but i guess thats all part of the experience of being the bleeding edge.

flash this kernal as you would a rom to give yourself the option to overclock and to unlock the fps. no wipe required.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754128

TorxT3D said:
all the information in these forums can be OVERWHELMING.
trying to be patient and read every little thing can be a task, not to mention reading everyones replies looking for solutions.. its crazytown.
even searching can be a hassle if you dont know what KEY WORDS to search for.
then you get the lashings if you didnt search properly.
its a PITA but i guess thats all part of the experience of being the bleeding edge.
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I agree with you on the KEY WORDS area, if you dont put the right stuff in or dont have the patience to try different options then ask a question--- boy oh boy the type lashing you can get in here is ridiculous. Hey seriously there is alot of info in here but you got to be willing to devote a lot of time to reading and finding it. Hey if you rooted your phone and feel its crazy just put a stock rooted rom on there and go on with life.... HEY NANDROID is da shytz tho....

wow guys can we be a little less welcoming... Not everyone on these forums is an expert...
ManUtd777, First off you want to start from scratch and wipe fully before installing any rom... If you have your contacts synced with gmail you will be able to recover them and just back up all you pictures and so on before doing the wipe.
Next find a rom and kernel combination you are happy with. Baked Snack 1.7 uses the new update the fresh uses but it also includes a battery saving and FPS unlocked kernel in the rom. If you'd like try using baked snack 1.7 so you wont have to flash a kernel.
As for signal try the new pri update and as for wifi tether follow willy900wonkas link...
and for future reference being new to rooting means alot of reading... if you have problems with the roms read the entire post and most problems are discussed in the thread.
Good luck....

neverends said:
wow guys can we be a little less welcoming... Not everyone on these forums is an expert...
ManUtd777, First off you want to start from scratch and wipe fully before installing any rom... If you have your contacts synced with gmail you will be able to recover them and just back up all you pictures and so on before doing the wipe.
Next find a rom and kernel combination you are happy with. Baked Snack 1.7 uses the new update the fresh uses but it also includes a battery saving and FPS unlocked kernel in the rom. If you'd like try using baked snack 1.7 so you wont have to flash a kernel.
As for signal try the new pri update and as for wifi tether follow willy900wonkas link...
and for future reference being new to rooting means alot of reading... if you have problems with the roms read the entire post and most problems are discussed in the thread.
Good luck....
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Good job man. This post should help newbs. God, I remember trying to get it all in at first. This was before the one-click root method. Man, it was crazy trying to get down all those ADB commands.
Very fun! I'm always lurking about but rarely comment.
Soon, OP, you'll be on CM or something and enjoying it all. Good luck!

READ! READ! READ! I know it seems daunting but you have to do it. I read the forums at home, at work on my phone, when I'm in bed on my laptop. It would be easier if every topic was in one centralized place and the guys here do a great job but with so much info, it's hard. You have to pick a topic, read up on it and then see how that relates to another topic that suits your needs. Take fps, read up on what kernels have it included then move on to ROMs and what ROMS work good with the kernel you choose. I was the same way when I started but with a little time and patience you will be flashing away.

klbjr said:
READ! READ! READ! I know it seems daunting but you have to do it.
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XDA is a huge mobile knowledge base. We take the time to create tutorials, flashable zips, WIKIs and videos teaching you how to do all these awesome things with your phone. We beta test releases and post our logcats when we bootloop. We title informative threads in CAPS and sticky them to the front page.
It doesn't surprise me people get irked when people don't read. I started out as a noob with my G1. Go through the history of my posts. You won't see any threads like this.

GadgetMonger said:
That one click rooting deal is great, but making it too easy for people who really don't know what they're doing has its draw backs...
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Very good advice. You learn a lot about what you're actually doing to your phone by using the more lengthy tutorials. Pays off in the long run.
Sent from my SUPERSONIC

neverends said:
wow guys can we be a little less welcoming... Not everyone on these forums is an expert...
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I try and help out as much as the next guy, or more. But when someone obviously doesn't do any research on their own (and his questions and comments do make it obvious that this is the case) its kinda hard to sympathize. Sure there's a lot of information here and nobody can sift through all of it but damn.... at least try to know about what you're trying to do. Rooting? Search root then READ. Wifi tether? These are basic terms that will come up in a search... we've all had to do it. I'm sure we've all needed a question or two answered as well, but for the most part anyone who has got their evo tweeked and customized the way they want it has also invested a lot of time in xda. Anyone not willing to even try should just stick to stock.
dglowe343 said:
Very good advice. You learn a lot about what you're actually doing to your phone by using the more lengthy tutorials. Pays off in the long run.
Sent from my SUPERSONIC
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Yup. The best learning experience is doing it from scratch...

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some issues after root

some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
Do you know what rom he installed?
Chanbob said:
he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
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This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
bmfc187 said:
This is exactly the reason that you shouldn't have someone root your phone unless you know what you're doing to do it yourself.
Best thing for you to do is to flash the 1.35.531 OTA update, which will remove root from your device and return you to the latest stock mytouch slide firmware. But honestly if you don't know anything about rooting or its benefits, OR ITS RISKS, then you shouldn't have anyone do it for you cus it makes you and your device a liability to this community. Everytime you have the slightest problem you're gonna be back here at the forum looking for someone to hold your hand cus you have no clue what you're messing with.
So I recommend you unroot your device until such time when you are able to fully understand the risks and capabilities of root. Go back to stock, then spend a lot of time here learning about root and what you might be able to use it for. For starters, ROOT IS NOT INTENDED FOR END USERS. If it was, EVERY phone would already be rooted when you get it. But its not. Its intended for ADVANCED users as a sort of "service entrance" to your device. This allows tech support guys (and gals) to do things that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about as an END USER; or, (my definition) a person, owning and using a device, with MINIMAL knowledge of the inner workings of said device. Its just like with windows....ANY IDIOT can get on windows and check their email. It requires almost NO knowledge to operate. Just the same, these phones are made so that any idiot can operate them with a bit of practice, but the critical parts of the system, where an IDIOT could really wreak some havoc, is(are) sealed off to most end users, to make sure they don't mess **** up. ROOT unseals all that so that you CAN really mess stuff up. And that's what will happen if you mess with stuff without a clue what you're doing.
Its in YOUR best interest to go back to stock. For now, anyway. Don't just accept your current level of know-how...LEARN HOW. When I got my G1 when they first came out, I knew NOTHING about programming or any kind of code, or any of that. But I have spent A LOT of time learning it all, and I'm still learning stuff all the time, and now I create my own themes, I patch code to make things work the way I want it to work, I fix all my own screw-ups without asking for help, and I'm damn proud of it. And you will be too, when you root your device all by yourself and don't NEED some non-replying jerkoff to do it for you...please take my advice, you'll be glad you did. Play it safe until you know what's safe and what isn't.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
I'm pretty sure you'll learn the how's afterwards since you're going to be reading and absorbing info from this forum
But for now... fixing the issues at hand.
The problem on adobe flash is actually something not exactly fixable... the flash 10 is just not for our device (correct me if I'm wrong x_x) and so the current cm6 is just unable to use flash... =/
As for swype... I actually asked the same question when I flashed cm6 rom. The thread is in the Q&A subforum titled [Q]Swype on CM6? or something like that. There will be links to dl swype. Have fun =)
Hope this helps lol.
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Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
Chanbob said:
This doesn't help in anyway!!
I am not looking for someone to hold my hand. I am wanting to learn how to fix what someone screwed up. I am pretty sure during all the time you spent learning all the things you know with root you asked a question or two.
Back to the topic at hand. Is this something that can be fixed? Like I said I am not 100% sure what rom I have, pretty sure it is cynogen though.
The reason I want it rooted is because the stock slide sucks, I don't like all the crap that came preloaded. I like how the phone is rooted, I just don't like the things that are not working.
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If you didn't want anyone to hold you hand. why post asking for help? BMFC's post is actually what you should do. Also your phone isn't just rooted, its running a custom software. and as with any custom software its should be obvious that stuff you had from stock just isnt going to be there. (flash lite and stock swype.) Also THIS POST IS IN THE WRONG SECTION. IF YOU HAD READ THE STICKIES which I know for a fact that you didn't you might have learned a thing or two. seriously. is it that hard to read the stickies? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701241
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702973
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704567
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747388
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704865
Your problem isn't really a problem at all. you are running cyan0gen mod 6. That being said since it is a 3rd party android build due to copyright laws, cyan0gen cant add a lot of the things you liked from your stock build. Like BMFC said rooting isn't for end users, you can really mess stuff up when you have root access and not know anything, My first android phone is the mytouch 3G Slide so I don't know as much as others but I do have a Linux background so as to knowing about root I am aware that it is something for more advanced users, and everything I learned I read in the stickies and through trial and error. Asking for help is fine no wrong doing in that but you have to understand that unless you have some idea as to what you are doing you shouldn't dive into rooting your phone. I didn't root my phone until after the first few ROMs were out. I read up on rooting and what benefits it could give me, also in my reading you come to understand what happens when you flash a custom ROM, and when I did it wasn't easy(it was a pain) but it got done. and yes I ran into some problems. but there was already answers for them in the stickies. My advice to you is the same as BMFC's advice and go to Chiefz' Stock OTA 1.35 ROM and you will back at stock with flash lite and you beloved swype, because apart from that you can only get swype on CM6 and thats if you download it through a third party, stay on that ROM until you learn a little more about how android works, getting and setting up the sdk, and getting comfortable enough with adb and what needs to be done with root, go ahead and root it YOURSELF. I wont link you to swype,learn to use the search button, and learn to lurk this forum.
inb4 lrn2grammar
bmfc187 said:
Well the problems you describe are bugs with the rom you are using and they will be the same for MOST roms since they're all based off cyanogens work. You SAY you wanna learn how to fix what someone screwed up but nobody screwed anything up, you just don't know what you're doing. If you want to fix problems that are specific to a certain rom, you need to look in your "about phone" section in settings and figure out what rom you are running.
THEN, go to the thread of the rom you are running. DON'T POST a question about swype or flash or keyboard lights there...the questions have already been asked and if there is a fix for your issue it will already be posted there somewhere.
And for your information, I used to ask questions all the time, that's PART of how ppl learn...but I NEVER in my time with android, have let anyone DO SOMETHING FOR ME. And that's all you seem to want, somone to root your phone for you, someone to tell you the answer so you don't have to waste time reading or searching for the answer...you don't even know what rom you're on, am I supposed to tell you THAT, too? You've displayed no desire to help yourself and the only ppl that get help around here are ppl that are willing to help themselves.
Its NO ONE'S job to man these fora to help ppl...anyone that helps anyone do anything here, they do it out of either the kindness of their own heart, or sheer boredom. Either way no one is OBLIGATED to help you, especially when the fixes for the bugs you describe have already been posted, and instead of searching for the answers you start a new thread, asking an old question, in the WRONG SECTION. There is a section marked Q&A which is SPECIFICALLY for asking and answering questions.
And if you hadn't noticed, I'm about the only person even paying any attention to your plight so don't be too quick to shun my advice. I will help you learn how to do things, ill help you figure things out if you get stuck, but I'm not gonna give you the answers or do it for you.
Go find out what rom you're running. Then look up the rom and search the thread for the bugs you're experiencing. If there are fixes for the bugs they'll be there.
-BMFC
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide using XDA App
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lol your post is similar to mine only i didn't see it befor eI posted mine or I would have held back on my post lol.
Bahaaaaa Dang BMFC187 you sounded like u have been wanting to say that to someone. That made me LOL.
As far as the OP...you need to read the thread that says "slide Rom bible" and start there. Sounds to me like u need to flash an updated ROM, plus there are lots of links in there that are helpful.
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Wow. I didn't realize a simple question would ruffle so many feathers.
The reason I thought something was wrong is because my wife and I have the same phone, we got them at the same time, they were both rooted at the same time with the same rom. Some of the features that work on her phone don't work on mine. In my mind, something wasn't right.
Thank you to those who took the time to be courteous and helpful by pointing me in a direction to start looking.
there is no way, unless your wife is running a stock espresso based ROM that she would flash(lite) running in her browser. swype yes. flash lite no. you still haven't read the stickies have you?
Just for the hell of it. What's wrong with a new guy who realizes he has an issue that he would like resolved. Yes he did several things the wrong way.
1. Saw eye candy and wanted it (valuable lesson being eye candy is not always what you want.
2. Not educating yourself and Do it your damn self.
3. Coming to these forum asking for help without being prepared to be flamed (most xda seniors are hot headed)
4. If you can't do it yourself then you prob shouldn't have root
? Oops there be another ? Mark now I go to the q&a corner.
Ahhh sleep time
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Chanbob said:
some background. My wife and I both bought Slides. Shortly after getting them she had someone she works with root hers. Everything worked great, I liked the way it ran and the lack of bloat ware so I had him root mine. Well after rooting mine I noticed that swype doesnt work anymore and flash(Website Flash) doesnt work anymore either. Now he doesn't want to help or return our messages and I am lost as to what to do.
I am not sure much about how he rooted it or what he did. I do know I get a cynogen screen when i turn on the phone and the rom is up to date.
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Assuming you can figure out what to do, there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7534187#post7534187 which is a ROM that's based off the stock variety. Can't speak for bloat (didn't like stock rom) but it may work for you.
As for flashing, I am not 100% sure what state your recovery is so no idea if you can realistically flash a ROM, but it's worth a shot.
Also, on the Android Market, there's the ROM Manager, which may help (or hinder) the situation...

[Q] Hello! New To Android! Wanna Help?

Hello everyone! I'm pretty new with android phones. Until about 4 months ago, I still had a Motorola Razor. I went and bought the LG Optimus M (by Metro PCS) in December, fell in love with androids, and upgraded to the Evo 4G. I love this phone so much!!!
I'm decent with electronics, but I won't mess with my phone too much because it's unknown territory. I rooted my Optimus only to delete bloatware. I won't root my Evo only because I really don't need to (not much bloatware , plus, there's more internal space on this phone). I already can tether and I like Sense, so I personally don't see the need for it (for me, not saying you shouldn't root; again, I'm new to this stuff).
Landing the plane:
What are some fun and interesting things I can do with this phone? What are some cool apps?
BTW, a little off topic, I have the app TV Shows HD. Why did that get taken off of the market?
Thanks guys for dealing with this newbie!
Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
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Well unless you root your phone there really isn't much else you can do with it besides download apps and play games. The best apps require root though, so even that has its limitations. The Evo is quite hard to brick, so it would be worth it to root. You can have Sense and have it be even faster with Mikfroyo or some of the other custom roms out there.
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Hmm, okay. Well, can you do me a favor? Can you please (if and when you have time) to send me a link to wherever it is I have to go to root my phone along with information about the root, how to root and all of that fun stuff?
Again, I don't know much. I love this phone and where I live I have 4G nearly everywhere I go. I would love to make this phone even cooler!
Here is a link to a sticky in the development section which has links to pretty much everything you need to root your phone. Just read up on it and try to get as much information as possible. After you root it you can load custom roms, kernels and themes to your phone as well as back it up, restore it from a backup and many more goodies. I suggest reading all over this Evo forum here at XDA about rooting. Everything you need to know and everything you need to do it are right here. Read about all the different Roms and what they have and don't have and decide which will be best for you. Get started here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701245
If 4G is important to you make sure that 4G is working in the Rom before flashing. It is on AOSP Roms now like CM7. You can stick with stock Sprint and still be rooted too if you really like it. Many devs have taken stock Sprint Rom and modified it, making it faster with less bloat and just plain better. My favorite Sense Rom was Mikfroyo, but I am a dedicated CM7 user now.
Thanks! I really appreciate it!
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No problem. I'm just glad to help. Good luck & happy flashing.
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in one of the subforums.. in evo ...
there is a long ass thread of recommended apps...
I agree man. If you aren't new to rooting, then definitely give it a go on the EVO. Just do your homework and research well before you start, you'll be fine.
The evo has excellent dev support, there are some really fantastic roms to choose from, beauty of rooting ... you're choice never has to be final. There are also some excellent people making excellent themes.. definitely fun to change it up every once in a while.
You can also improve performance, speed, battery life and add new features with root. You will not be disappointed.
Just be sure to at least hit the Thanks button if you use someones work, it's important for these guys to know they're appreciated.
I just rooted for the first time very recently (~2 days) and I found the following posts extremely helpful and, in combination, to provide a fully comprehensive guide on how to root, what to expect, how to avoid doing things wrong, how to backup, how to restore, how to flash ROMs and kernels and other add-ons, et cetera:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6949215#post6949215
http://htcevorooting.x10.mx/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/194918-rooting-dummies.html
Additionally, as others have stated, do read up on the EVO forums here and read up as much as you can on rooting and ROMs and kernels and such. Hope I helped.
Thanks guys! I can't believe their is a forum filed with really cool and helpful people! Thank you all!
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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http://webchat.freenode.net/
For the best support.
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Idk if this is still relevant but there WERE several hw versions that required different rooting methods, be careful with that. Maybe they all have a unified rooting method now, I don't pay any attention to that stuff now that I have a custom recovery.
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thats all been ironed out. as long as it's an up to date root method, they all work on any hardware or hboot version.
Wow! I'm on other forums for comic books and action figures (yeah, I'm a freaking nerd) and ask a lot of questions and NO ONE responds to me this clearly and this much. This was first thread as well as my first post. This forum is great! Thank you everybody! I will look to root my phone this weekend with a friend of mine who is pretty phone savvy. I will let you guys know how it goes. Again, thank you all so much!
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should i root my phone?

i don't know whether i should root my phone because i am afraid of bricking it, but there are too much limitations with unrooted phone.
It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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im not sure coz i updated my software directly from htc and idk can it be rooted without any probs. which guide do you recommend?
Tell us your build number. It is in settings-about-software information. Then ppl can tell you what to do next.
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In case you're not sure, you can check your build number through...
Setting >> About Phone >> Software Information.
=)
Stock rom Android 2.2.1
Build no.
1.84.707.2 CL335251 release-keys
Software no.
1.84.707.2
Then start from the Downgrade guide
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Erm, how? Please teach me step by step pls. I really know nothing.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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No offense, but you need a little knowledge to root and flash a custom rom. This isn't meant for the average user. It feels like everyone who gets an android phone nowadays (as it's becoming a more popular OS) want's to root and flash a custom rom as soon as they have in their hands without even knowing what it really means. The information to do all this is available here on this forum in form of guides which in most of the cases are quite extensive. If you want to root and flash a custom rom etc, you will have to do some reading on your own.
AFAIK this forum isn't here to hold the hands of android virgins as they try modify their phones without even knowing what a command prompt is. Almost every day someone new wants step by step instructions for this and for that even though there are good instructions out there. This forum is meant for people with some experience and knowledge that want to get the most out of our phones. New members are ofcourse welcome, but please, do some studying on your own too.
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
Hi ghostofcain
I hope you do not take offence to my reply.
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Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
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I think you will find naomispoon has managed to ROOT the device.
naomispoon said:
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
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They say:- I havent regretted doing it.
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TheQuest
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
Hi Grant Barker
Grant Barker said:
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
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Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
Best thing i ever did. I had a jailbroken iphone before i got my Desire HD so rooting was the first thing i looked at when i got my HD, getting rid of the branding was the main reason but then i realized how many Roms were out there and now its hard to choose which one to use :
@I'm TheQuest
I think ghostofcain was talking about the OP...
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Grant Barker
Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
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Thanks very much.
There's a lot of changes and benefits if you root your phone and install a custom ROM... First, there are a lot of custom ROMs, for any taste. MIUI imitate the iOS system, with the liberty of Android OS, for example, and RevoHD leave the original SENSE ROM, with improvements of course.
Then, custom ROMs have some interesting tweaks, like zipalign, the ads removing and a better management of the RAM.
To finish, I did it myself (running the MIUI ROM by Rey) and I have no regrets. After reading a few tutorials it was easy as ABC !
Like it was said before It's up to you, I dont intend to convince anyone, but If you wanna do it, go doing some searches. This forum has some tutorials, and anyone, even a noob can understand them.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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hey there, i followed your guide but i keep failing. help pls.

Which ROM is best?

Hey all I am rather new to the rooting/ROM scene. I was big into jailbreaking iphones but finally saw the light and switched to android.
So I have a T-mobile Galaxy S3 with stock 4.1.1 android, I have it rooted and I used ROM manager to flash ClockworkMod Recovery 6.0.2.3.
I have not ventured into the ROM world yet but I would like to know which would be the most stable? Also do you lose all data everytime you flash a ROM? If that is the case that would probably dissuade me from doing it
Is there anything else that is recommended for a rooted phone with custom recovery?
Thanks guys!
I forgot to add that I am wondering about custom modems.. I live in a very rural area and I normally only have Edge network. Would this even be worth doing?
Look, research, READ, READ, AND READ some more. Only you can decide which is the best rom.
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Please refrain from being lazy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088179
T-Mobile SGS III
Ummmm..... YEH. A nandroid backup!!!!! Before u go ahead and tranform your phone into decepticon! Lol
Cmw, is good but I use the one from goo manager. I think their both capable of a backup!
Then afterwards have a go at it with 4.2 roms.. almost stable but still a few bugs
And touchwiz roms which are pretty much stable 4.0.4, 4.1.1 and. Soon to include 4.1.2 touchwiz roms <---- im waiting for that one
As long as u flash d2tmo roms u shouldn't come across any data problems even more so with touchwiz roms.
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elflip88 said:
Look, research, READ, READ, AND READ some more. Only you can decide which is the best rom.
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lol yea I think my brain is on overload from reading so much recently! :silly:
. You can try cyanogenmod they are usually pretty stable with all bloatware removed. Well you can always have an app like titanium backup or rom toolbox that can back up your data every time you want to flash a new rom then restore it. OK so read this carefully there's a thread that you need to find so you CAN BACK UP YOUR EMEI, if you don't know what that is its sort it like the brain of your phone you messed that up and it could become paperweight. Back up that nvfolder... also with CWR backup your current stock rom in case something goes bad you can always go back to something stable. Also don't flash other modems that's not from tmobile this will Brick your device. Since you seem pretty new don't go and flash att roms or kernels some say they have done it with no issue but again your fairly new.
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Please refrain from being lazy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2088179
T-Mobile SGS III
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I do apologize but with a fiance, five kids, full time job, and something Always needing done at the house, I don't have the same amount of time as some people. I read as much and research as much as I possibly can. I trust what some of the senior members on this site have to say.
It is not a question of being lazy it is a request for information from those that know more than I do and can direct me in the right direction.
I have read about many different ROMs but I am not sure as to which one is the most stable and offer less risk of potential issues.
I like the look of the Jelly Bam ROM but it is not for the T-mobile S3.
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. You can try cyanogenmod they are usually pretty stable with all bloatware removed. Well you can always have an app like titanium backup or rom toolbox that can back up your data every time you want to flash a new rom then restore it. OK so read this carefully there's a thread that you need to find so you CAN BACK UP YOUR EMEI, if you don't know what that is its sort it like the brain of your phone you messed that up and it could become paperweight. Back up that nvfolder... also with CWR backup your current stock rom in case something goes bad you can always go back to something stable. Also don't flash other modems that's not from tmobile this will Brick your device. Since you seem pretty new don't go and flash att roms or kernels some say they have done it with no issue but again your fairly new.
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Thank you for your advice, I have read about the importance of using the correct carrier specific ROMS/Modems. I'll do some research on EMEI so I can fully understand it. Once again thank you for the help!
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Thank you for your advice, I have read about the importance of using the correct carrier specific ROMS/Modems. I'll do some research on EMEI so I can fully understand it. Once again thank you for the help!
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No problem here to help like others helped me. Your emei is a bunch of numbers that gives your phone identity, to your carrier. When flashing, modding themes your emei might mysteriously mess up hence why you need to back it up. Some say cwm is causing it so they prefer the touch recovery others still use cwm without issue. Also never give out those numbers they are personnel to your phone, someone who's tech savvy enough could get it.
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No problem here to help like others helped me. Your emei is a bunch of numbers that gives your phone identity, to your carrier. When flashing, modding themes your emei might mysteriously mess up hence why you need to back it up. Some say cwm is causing it so they prefer the touch recovery others still use cwm without issue. Also never give out those numbers they are personnel to your phone, someone who's tech savvy enough could get it.
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yea I read some about it a few minutes ago and I get what it is. Seems like you are def SOL if you screw that up!
A friend of mine lost his phone in Baltimore one weekend and someone found it and posted all over his facebook, we called the service provided and they blacklisted the phone using his EMEI number but also told us that the phone would be a brick after they did it. My friend called his phone and the guy wanted him to pay hundreds to get it back...some people lol.
@OP here is the thread that will help you back up your IMEI. It was the very first thing I did when I got this phone, even before Rooting. If you do lose your IMEI, this will inject it back in.
I suggest that you go into the Dev section and read a few OPs (do you know the difference between AOSP and TWiz ROMs?). Find a few you like and then go in and read about the last 10 pages to get a feel for bugs. If you find one you like, then start reading.
2 things:
First, since you have 5 kids and budding family, you need something that is consistantly working. For this I do not suggest jumping into the "flashing custom ROMs pool" feet first into a 4.2.1 ROM. Those, while some are stable for crack flashers and tweakers, are still WIPs. Play with the ability you have now -> Root. Contrary to some, Rooting does not mean flashing. there are several things you can do with Root that don't rely on flashing a new ROM or Kernel or Modem. Btw, DocHoliday has a modem thread where you can flash different modems(basebands) to see what works for your tower. There is also a Google.maps attached too.
Second, "Best ROM" threads always turn into a pissing match. I think that you are getting some good info in this for now, but I am going to close it when I get back to my PC. For one, you will get moderately flamed for opening a "Best ROM" thread (I closed at least 3-5 of these a day across the site) but I am giving a reprieve for a bit (until 2:30PM est) because you are getting some good advice for now.
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@OP here is the thread that will help you back up your IMEI. It was the very first thing I did when I got this phone, even before Rooting. If you do lose your IMEI, this will inject it back in.
I suggest that you go into the Dev section and read a few OPs (do you know the difference between AOSP and TWiz ROMs?). Find a few you like and then go in and read about the last 10 pages to get a feel for bugs. If you find one you like, then start reading.
2 things:
First, since you have 5 kids and budding family, you need something that is consistantly working. For this I do not suggest jumping into the "flashing custom ROMs pool" feet first into a 4.2.1 ROM. Those, while some are stable for crack flashers and tweakers, are still WIPs. Play with the ability you have now -> Root. Contrary to some, Rooting does not mean flashing. there are several things you can do with Root that don't rely on flashing a new ROM or Kernel or Modem. Btw, DocHoliday has a modem thread where you can flash different modems(basebands) to see what works for your tower. There is also a Google.maps attached too.
Second, "Best ROM" threads always turn into a pissing match. I think that you are getting some good info in this for now, but I am going to close it when I get back to my PC. For one, you will get moderately flamed for opening a "Best ROM" thread (I closed at least 3-5 of these a day across the site) but I am giving a reprieve for a bit (until 2:30PM est) because you are getting some good advice for now.
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Thank you sir I appreciate it, I didn't mean to start any headaches for you, I guess I should have worded it differently. I agree the information is extremely helpful and will allow me to make an educated decision into whether or not I want to flash ROMs. I am gonna lean more to not because you again brought up a valid point, I need a working phone lol.
Thanks again for the continued support and I'll be more mindful about what threads I create :angel:
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Thank you sir I appreciate it, I didn't mean to start any headaches for you, I guess I should have worded it differently. I agree the information is extremely helpful and will allow me to make an educated decision into whether or not I want to flash ROMs. I am gonna lean more to not because you again brought up a valid point, I need a working phone lol.
Thanks again for the continued support and I'll be more mindful about what threads I create :angel:
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You didn't start any headaches for me at all man. I love what I do. That is why I offered help and a link before the lock. You are all good. Take some time (with that much going on in your life, good luck finding it) and read a bit and before you know it, you'll be answering more questions than asking.
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I'm a noob to flashing and rooting, please help! Thanks in advance!

Good afternoon,
My name is JJ and my phone or service has taken a dump.
I have the Unlimited Plan with MetroPCS and its paid. I was on the phone today for an hour (on another device) and they have no idea what seems to be the problem. I live in great coverage zone. I have been having troubles connecting to the mobile network as well as getting, receiving both calls and texts. When I am connected to WiFi I am fine..ish. I set up apn settings a few times, most recent today with MetroPCS. My IMEI is good, paid in full phone which is a SM-G925T-ZDETMB (Galaxy s6 edge orginally from T-Mobile)
Took it to the store and they looked at me like I am a monkey.
I need my phone for work and can't afford to get another one. It seems to be in great working order other wise. I figure I might as well flash it and root it and make it mine or something. I downloaded ODIN and got freaked out because I have no clue what I am doing.
Be cool to flash it or root it with Nougat. Is that possible?
So I was hoping for a step by step guide here.
My service and phone worked great until about two weeks ago,..now its as intermittent and flipp flopped as Trump and his hair and policies. Thanks again in advance. Looking forward to a speedy reply. I got nothing else going on.
These forums are really dead for this device, you can root using this link: https://download.chainfire.eu/732/C...F-Auto-Root-zeroltetmo-zeroltetmo-smg925t.zip
There is no Nougat for us. You can flash new ROMs which give better battery life and other nice goodies, you can flash it after you root and install TWRP.
Sorry
Rafy_0003 said:
These forums are really dead for this device, you can root using this link: https://download.chainfire.eu/732/C...F-Auto-Root-zeroltetmo-zeroltetmo-smg925t.zip
There is no Nougat for us. You can flash new ROMs which give better battery life and other nice goodies, you can flash it after you root and install TWRP.
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Anyway you could give me a step by step? What is flashing compared to rooting? What is a ROM? No obligation here on this noob here.
Whats the difficulty with simply reading the threads here on the subject you're interested in? I mean after all, thats why they're here. If not, there'd be a million threads asking for step by step instructions. It seems like you have the competence to write your issue why not take it a step further and use the search button. Its clear you dont have any specific questions, youre simply looking for root instructions which have been posted and utilized by the thousands of other users who did use the search button. For whatever reason if youre needing these personalized Id suggest using your imagination and pretending they're written directly for you.
If youre still having issues, with this rather simple task that my 8 year old cousin could do by himself than perhaps rooting isnt your thing.. What youre asking is more basic than basic itself. By the way, when searching and reading you'll actually be gaining knowledge!
My apologies if you suffer from any health issues or current mental conditions that prevent you from these tasks..
Good luck
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Whats the difficulty with simply reading the threads here on the subject you're interested in? I mean after all, thats why they're here. If not, there'd be a million threads asking for step by step instructions. It seems like you have the competence to write your issue why not take it a step further and use the search button. Its clear you dont have any specific questions, youre simply looking for root instructions which have been posted and utilized by the thousands of other users who did use the search button. For whatever reason if youre needing these personalized Id suggest using your imagination and pretending they're written directly for you.
If youre still having issues, with this rather simple task that my 8 year old cousin could do by himself than perhaps rooting isnt your thing.. What youre asking is more basic than basic itself. By the way, when searching and reading you'll actually be gaining knowledge!
My apologies if you suffer from any health issues or current mental conditions that prevent you from these tasks..
Good luck
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