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[Q] Problems with backups, how to restore missing apps

Dear All
Having a rooted Desire with Froyo and Apps2SD+, i needed to migrate to a bigger 16 GB card. In that (failed) effort I decided to remove all apps and then restore them.
I backed them up via MybAckup Pro and Titanium Backup. Then, after reboot, no backups were detected by TB. I even wrote to the support but no answer. I had to revert to MyBackup Pro which apparently had a mind of its own regarding which apps to restore. Now Google Maps is missing on my phone and neither will it install. Also, com.gapps are closing on me every minute.
I have decided to do a factory reset but it'd be nice if a few questions are answered first:
1) I understand that NANDROID is the best way to back up; however, it doesn't provide me a way to restore apps one by one or in batches. Any solutions?
2) When I do a factory reset, will I end up with a clean phone with root and my current custom ROM, or the phone as it came from Orange?
3) Is there a way to install Google Maps and to remove the gapps errors without factory reset?
4) If I restore from NANDROID after factory reset, will all the errors/instability come back as well?
Thanks

1) Nandroid does an image of your custom phone, like for example Norton Ghost would do. Its like saving the setup/state of the phone at the time you do the backup.
2) A factory reset deletes all user data. You end with your current ROM as it was a clean install, it will not change the ROM you're using. If you're using a custom ROM you will still be with that custom ROM.
3) Can't Google Maps be downloaded from Market? Also you can try to extract the .apk from a ROM and copy it to yours via adb for example. As for the errors I dont really know if they're because data corruption and a reset will fix them or its the apk that isnt working as intended.
4) As I said earlier, doing a Nandroid is doing an image of the current state of the phone. If you do a Nandroid of a phone that has errors and you restore it, the errors wont disapear.
If you want to have a backup of the list of apps you already have you can use AppBrain. Its a little app that syncs your list of apps from the phone into a google account so when you do a full wipe you have only to install that app again and sync with the saved google list of apps. It wont save the data of the aplications but it will save the list of the ones you've installed.

Azureus: That is a most helpful reply, I sincerely appreciate it.
Google maps is not appearing in the market. I tried to sideload it and it still doesn't install. Thanks for the GREAT AppBrain trick.
I would appreciate if you could answer:
1) Which is the best, most stable custom ROM to use with official Froyo+Sense, Apps2SD+ ? I have doubts about stability of current ROM.
2) Which app can enable me to back up apps and then restore them one by one, given that Titanium Backup is not working for me somehow?

1) I personally use OpenDesire and its a non Sense UI ROM, so I dont really know what Sense UI ROM is the best. I've tryed several Sense UI ROMs and two that gave me a good feeling where LeeDrOiD Mod and the official Sense ROM of OpenDesire Team.
2) I've tryed several apps for data backups and the one that I liked most was Titanium Backup... May I ask why isnt working for you? I've tested both the free and donate version and they seem to work pretty well...

Thanks. Will try Leedroid now.
As for titanium, or backs up everything all right but when I try to restore it shows nothing. Don't know why is that

Titanium Backup saves the backups by default in a folder as the same name as the app in your SD. Have you tried deleting all the folder and doing backups again to see if the restore works? You can also go to settings and change the default folder in which it saves the backup to see if its a problem with de folder/SD or its the app.

Back up /restore question.

I've got the eagle's blood ROM running now and am quite happy. I'm wondering what happens if I won't to try an other ROM. Will I loose all applications and settings? Only applications?
Should I do a full back up before flashing and a full recovery after? What is stirred in a back up? Settings. Or just apps?
Thanks for the run down

if you do a full back up its like taking a snap shot of everything you have the way you have it. So feel free to try any rom out there. I currently have two backups 1. is my current rom that I'm on right now and the other is stock. If you don't have it Id also suggest getting titianum back up and pay for it. It also takes a snap shot as well if you pay for it then it will keep all your settings and you can do a batch restore and restore all at once....

wondercoolguy said:
if you do a full back up its like taking a snap shot of everything you have the way you have it. So feel free to try any rom out there. I currently have two backups 1. is my current rom that I'm on right now and the other is stock. If you don't have it Id also suggest getting titianum back up and pay for it. It also takes a snap shot as well if you pay for it then it will keep all your settings and you can do a batch restore and restore all at once....
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I like to keep a number of backups around: Stock, StockDebloated, [MyCurrentRom Without any modifications], [MyCurrentRom with modifications], [OtherRomILikeToUse]
It takes up space and it takes time and patience to build up a library of backups but it makes flashing between different ROMs very easy and it lets me always be able to change things up at the drop of a hat.

pairustwo said:
I've got the eagle's blood ROM running now and am quite happy. I'm wondering what happens if I won't to try an other ROM. Will I loose all applications and settings? Only applications?
Should I do a full back up before flashing and a full recovery after? What is stirred in a back up? Settings. Or just apps?
Thanks for the run down
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1.) Yes! Full backup meaning Nandroid backup with CWR or Rom Manager, the later is an app from the creator of CWR so works while booted and reboots back to android automatically for you, less intervention by you. This is a fail safe so if you dont like new rom restore and its like you never left.
2.) If you switch to a different ROM, meaning not the update of the one you are currently running then you DO NOT full restore. Actually you NEVER full restore unless you are doing #1.) above. You only want to restore your apps with data and maybe some of your settings. Restored settings can sometimes cause problems as different ROMs can have things in different places from where the old settings came.
As mentioned titanium PRO/donate version is well worth it. It will allow you to reinstall your apps and data for those apps i.e. passwords, names, personal info. It does so by color coding what is (potentially) safe to reinstall and shows what not should be reinstalled i.e. red items or system files from the previous rom(s). The difference from that and a data restore with CWR is titanium lets you select/deselect what you want to restore.

So let me see if I understand this.
If I wan't to change ROMs - but keep my applications and as many settings as possible - I should use Titanium Backup.
Any CWM back up will simply take a snapshot of the current ROM with Applications and would be no use in restoring applications only to a New ROM.

pairustwo said:
So let me see if I understand this.
If I wan't to change ROMs - but keep my applications and as many settings as possible - I should use Titanium Backup.
Any CWM back up will simply take a snapshot of the current ROM with Applications and would be no use in restoring applications only to a New ROM.
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You want to do a back up of rom regardless so if something goes wrong you can flash back to the it. You use titanium to back up all your apps and data so when you boot into your newly flashed rom you can have titanium restore all your apps and data.

Any way to switch roms and keep stuff?

My knowledge of roms and the like is very limited, so forgive me if this seems like a dumb question.
Basically, my Nexus is a huge distraction during school, but I don't want to purchase a dumb phone. So instead, I'd rather have a rom I flash in the morning that has everything but productivity apps deleted and then a rom I flash at home that has everything. However, I'd hate to flash a rom and not have it save what apps I have deleted.
Is there any sort of solution for this?

Have a ROM setup exactly like you like, save it as a nandroid backup. Then setup the other one, save it as a nandroid. Then you can restore back and forth. Honestly though this is going to be a huge hassle, as you're gonna have to backup the current ROM every time you switch so that you come back to the same spot.
My advice? Learn how to be responsible with your phone and pay attention in class. A simpler solution if you really have no self control is a second launcher that has the distracting apps hidden.

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Intervenient said:
My knowledge of roms and the like is very limited, so forgive me if this seems like a dumb question.
Basically, my Nexus is a huge distraction during school, but I don't want to purchase a dumb phone. So instead, I'd rather have a rom I flash in the morning that has everything but productivity apps deleted and then a rom I flash at home that has everything. However, I'd hate to flash a rom and not have it save what apps I have deleted.
Is there any sort of solution for this?
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You don't need to flash multiple roms, the luxury of being rooted is you have full control of your device!! Download Titanium Backup from the Google Play Store. This app allows you to make backups of your apps including all the data that is associated with it, and if you feel the need to remove them in the morning you can do so and then when you are home you can restore them one by one or do a batch restore and restore them all at once. You have the option to restore them with or with out data as well. Example being would be games like Angry Birds lets say and you are on level 9,000 but don't want to delete it or lose it flashing another rom then you back it up and can uninstall it and then restore it whenever you want!! This would be the same for flashing a new rom, when the new rom boots up re-download Titanium from the Play Store and then restore all apps you have saved..

Help and advice pls

Please could anyone help me as to how to use titanium back up pro
Silly questions these but never used this or done it b4
.. can I back up my entire rom with all my apps so if I put a new rom on my phone and dont like it I could just revert back to my last rom how I left it??
Also how do you back up just apps properly
How easy is it to restore apps or even full rom if possible to do
Thanks for reading and thanks even more if you leave advice to the note noob
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You should google nandroid backups.. it basically restores your rom to the time you backed it much like a time machine (you go back to your previous condition). This requires a custom recovery which should be your first task after rooting your phone. Titanium backup only backs up apps and app data this is useful because when you flash a new rom you will lose all your data so TB restores all the apps for you and PRO makes restoration super quick..
Everyone's a noob at some point so doing a quick search on your favourite search engine to answer these sort of questions can take you a long way..
Happy flashing

i don't know bout you, but i myself only made a stock rom backup (right after i root and put cwm using odin), after that i never back up any rom i flashed ( i dont know why but i love --or addicted-- to flash almost every new custom rom)... hence i only back up my apps using titanium. with the new update the UI is kinda different, to upload to dropbox (you get 50GB from samsung for 2 years), you have to klick the 3rd tab and press run.
if you choose to backup using sdcard, dont forget to set the destination in setting, i prefer to backup on my ext sd because i often use superwipe before i flash some rom.
after that pres the checkmark in a box on the right edge on the top, it will then diagnose what scenarios are possible for you.
then it'll show you some list just pick one you want and press the check mark again. and you're done.

Firmware

Hello guys. One year ago i installed skydragon ROM and everything was ok. But now id like to reinstall my Rom to newer one. But i dont remember how i did it so could anyone help me? I actualy started to have some problems. My screen turns itself on randomly, pages refreshes or falls to main desktop randomly. If i use safe mode it is ok so its probably some of my applications. But i want to reinstall my phone so its like a new one(its ok with a custom rom ,i just need some recommended roms) so please if anyone could help me, i would be so happy.

FTWDiesel said:
Hello guys. One year ago i installed skydragon ROM and everything was ok. But now id like to reinstall my Rom to newer one. But i dont remember how i did it so could anyone help me? I actualy started to have some problems. My screen turns itself on randomly, pages refreshes or falls to main desktop randomly. If i use safe mode it is ok so its probably some of my applications. But i want to reinstall my phone so its like a new one(its ok with a custom rom ,i just need some recommended roms) so please if anyone could help me, i would be so happy.
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Backup all of your data, whether it be twrp or titanium
download the rom of your choice, id suggest leedroid or android revolution for you as they are close to stock
copy to phone, wipe data and flash in twrp recovery (im assuming you have it as you have skydragon installed)
then restore your data through titanium.
You may have issues if your firmware is out of date, however I have not updated mine for a long period and it is still working fine. There are plenty of threads that can direct you through the process.

Thanks alot. And what types of custom roms exist? I mean how do are they different? And i read on other forum that i have to do something with kernel? But i totaly forgot what is that

And id like to ask, if i can somehow backup my apps settings and saves from games for example?

FTWDiesel said:
Thanks alot. And what types of custom roms exist? I mean how do are they different? :
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Some ROMs are GPE (Google Play Edition) or AOSP; both mean no Sense. Others are Sense based, but with various tweaks, customization options, etc. But you need to read the ROM threads to see the differences; and how they relate to your needs and preferences.
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And i read on other forum that i have to do something with kernel? But i totaly forgot what is that
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Unless you have the Sprint or Verizon M8, you don't need to do anything with the kernel. The kernel installs automatically when you flash a ROM.

What does no Sense mean?

FTWDiesel said:
What does no Sense mean?
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Sense is HTC's "skinning" or customization of the Android OS. They add their own version of some apps, modified the launcher, icons, etc. as a means to differentiate their devices from the competition.
Not everyone likes that, so there is also a Google Play Edition of the M8, which is an Android version close to "pure" Android such as on Nexus devices. GPE ROMs are based on the official HTC released GPE version OS (although custom GPE ROMs may have tweaks and customizations of their own).
While AOSP ROMs such as Cyanogenmod and others are compiled from source code, and constitute "original work". But again, they don't have Sense customizations, and are close to "pure" Android.

Okay, thanks alot

So i flashed the newest skydragon ROM but after i installed it and used recovery(from twrp or what is the name) i recovered my data (apps etc) but my notification bar and home button wasnt there. I tried to flash it many times but it was the same.

FTWDiesel said:
So i flashed the newest skydragon ROM but after i installed it and used recovery(from twrp or what is the name) i recovered my data (apps etc) but my notification bar and home button wasnt there. I tried to flash it many times but it was the same.
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Did you check the Skydragon thread to see if its a reported issue (and if so, there may be a fix posted)? That should always be the first thing to check when encountering issues after a ROM flash.
It sounds like you migrated user data using TWRP? I don't personally recommend it, as it often leads to issues, especially if the ROM is significantly different/updated than what you were using before.
Does the issue occur if you clean flash the ROM (default wipe in TWRP, then flash the ROM) and do not restore user data?

Ye the error isnt there if i dont recover my data. But i want to have apps etc there. So is there some way to backup them? Also sms, phone calls etc.

FTWDiesel said:
Ye the error isnt there if i dont recover my data. But i want to have apps etc there. So is there some way to backup them? Also sms, phone calls etc.
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I always use the app Titanium Backup to migrate my app data. IMO its also well worth the few $ for the paid pro key, to enable the batch functions (you can backup/restore all your user apps with just a few taps). Titanium is a very useful and reliable tool for ROM flashers.
Restore the data with TWRP, then back up your user apps and app data with Titanium. Wipe in TWRP. Then reboot and restore the apps in Titanium, and all should be good.
You can also use Titanium to backup and restore your SMS (backup app data "Dialer Storage") and call log ("Contacts Storage"). But be careful about restore any system data, since that is usually when the bugs pop up.

Okey, thanks alot. I'll try it today.

Hello, i tried the titanium backup but i have many many apps there and it wanted me to confrim every one one by one when installing which is pretty annoying while i have many apps. Also i thought about other roms, but i cant find here on xda developers any "comparing stats" or something. And mostly i cant find where are some cons and pros of the roms. Only last update notes... im really dumb or idk, cant really find anything.

Also i want to ask if its possible to remove car mode somehow? Cause my phones somehow sometimes thinks that im in a fckin car and uses car mode which interrups my app or refreshes page or light my screen..