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high contacts storage space

as i am patiently waitin for froyo to be officially released i now have to free up space on a daily basis but i am absolutely baffled as to why my contacts storage memory is so high 9.21mb infact! here is a breakdown
sim: 224
google: 9
phone:241
facebook:331
does anyone if that sounds right or is there something i can do apart from obv deleting entries? many thanks

If im not mistaken, the whole facebook integration into the htc people app makes it 9mb heavy. Because it saves the contacts images for every separate contact you have.. so i guess its quite normal.. besides.. why would you even free up 9mb of space? Its not enough for anything.. just delete some of the apps you have until froyo comes out and you can throw em on the sd card..
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9MB only? mine's about 35mb for both FB and flickr I hate the fact that it takes up SO MUCH space. Whatever happened to cloud computing?

I have 22 mega on mine, and i am not using flickr...
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Mine got up to 29Mb at one point, for about 350 contacts total. I cleared out the cache & reinstated them and now its steady at 6.5 Mb with exactly the same contacts, pics & details. I guess that somehow there is the capacity for the contact storage to bloat.

Which cache did you clean out I might give that a go
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Mine got up to 29Mb at one point, for about 350 contacts total. I cleared out the cache & reinstated them and now its steady at 6.5 Mb with exactly the same contacts, pics & details. I guess that somehow there is the capacity for the contact storage to bloat.
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Omg that's crazy guess I'm just being picky. Just wanna try out a few new apps without uninstalling anything for once lol
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Noob q incoming.. how do i see how much space my contacts are consuming? I can swear i saw it once but i dont remember now..
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I think I found a solution. It may not be so elegant, but it works:
Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > All > Contacts Storage > Clear Data.
I always sync my contacts with Google, so after it cleared everything (including call logs) it just started downloading everything again. ~1000 contacts occupied 48MB before, now they're just over 3MB (but in all fairness, the Facebook photos are still downloading) - still a big difference.
The thing is that I had been waiting for the official Froyo update to supposedly fix everything - well now I have it, but most of the apps on the Market haven't been set by their developers to allow installation to the SD card anyway, so it's really the same thing as before...

[Q] How to resolve "Low on Space" error

Hi, Noob here. I have been wrestling with a "Low on Space" error for the last couple weeks. I understand it is a partition issue, and I'm hoping there is a ROM that will resolve the issue. The phone is rooted, but otherwise stock.
I have searched, but was not able to find a post that addresses this issue, even though it seems to be a common one. Maybe I just don't know the lingo.
Could someone point me in the right direction? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe someone can chime in and explain the "partition issue," I'm wondering what that is and why it would be necessary.

Low on space, Google not syncing...
I've recently been getting the "low on space" error too which has been preventing my google accounts (gmail, contacts, calendar, music) from syncing... I'd remove apps, move apps to SD, clear cache and still get the error with no syncing. I thought Twitter was the culprit so I removed that app and then everything started syncing and the error went away. At that point I then added google music beta to sync and once that finished I got the error again and google wouldn't sync. I then cleared data on google music beta and now able to sync again. I'm guessing google music is the culprit, but I thought that would just be caching to the sd card... This is really frustrating since I cannot utilize google music beta right now.
I have plenty of space available as well:
SD: 8.5 free out of 15.5
Internal: 6.2 free out of 6.6
Phone memory: 302 free out of 748.
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!

I am having the same Google sync issues as well, gdemore. It is not really a space issue, as I have plenty available:
SD: 5.2 free out of 7.5
Internal: 4.5 free out of 6.6
Phone memory: 407 free out of 748.
I have moved all apps to SD that I could, and use "1tap cache cleaner" from time to time.
I have gotten the "Low on Space" issue intermittently since the phone was new, but a reboot always made it go away until now.

Is the "Low on Space" error not a common problem on Droid Incredibles? After doing some Google searches, I thought it was. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Go to setting, applications, running and look at what apps are taking up space. Usually twitter, Google earth, Facebook. When you open so many images it caches them so you can review them with minimal loading time but at the cost of precious space. Anytime I get the error I clear data on these apps and it goes away for months, until I've viewed a ton of pictures again, hope this helps
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shemp71 said:
Is the "Low on Space" error not a common problem on Droid Incredibles? After doing some Google searches, I thought it was. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Not for people who are chronic rom flashers because everytime the flash a new one its the same as clearing data
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Clear cache/dalvik, try freeing up some memory by killing a few apps.

Thanks KKellett & dmeadows. I have tried clearing cache, killing apps, clearing data, etc.... I still have the Low on Space error. I'm going to pick a ROM to flash, hoping that will resolve the issue. Maybe getting rid of the bloatware will help.
Given that I have so much space on the phone (see above), I was hoping for a solution that didn't require constant cache clearing/app killing/data clearing, etc. I was hoping some of the ROMs would allow the phone to use more available memory for cache space than is currently allotted. IMHO i shouldn't need to micro-manage apps/cache with so much memory available.

Check your data/data and system/app directories with root explorer and see if there isn't some stuff you can get rid of.
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The "low on space" error comes when the \data\data partition, limited to 150 megabytes, becomes 90% full. Deodexed ROM's tend to take up more space in that partition than odexed ROM's. Sense takes up a considerable amount of space there, as do contacts. For instance, my daughter has thousands of Google and FB contacts, and they are taking up nearly half of the space.
There are two ways I have found to "fix" the problem.
1. Using Titanium Backup Pro, be sure to re-integrate any updated apps back into the ROM (that will take their data out of the partition); and
2. Purchase NotEnoughSpace, which enables you to create a partition outside of \data\data and move the bigger space hogs out of it. I run it regularly and keep at least 40 megabytes free in \data\data to avoid the problem.

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The "low on space" error comes when the \data\data partition, limited to 150 megabytes, becomes 90% full. Deodexed ROM's tend to take up more space in that partition than odexed ROM's. Sense takes up a considerable amount of space there, as do contacts. For instance, my daughter has thousands of Google and FB contacts, and they are taking up nearly half of the space.
There are two ways I have found to "fix" the problem.
1. Using Titanium Backup Pro, be sure to re-integrate any updated apps back into the ROM (that will take their data out of the partition); and
2. Purchase NotEnoughSpace, which enables you to create a partition outside of \data\data and move the bigger space hogs out of it. I run it regularly and keep at least 40 megabytes free in \data\data to avoid the problem.
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Thanks for the tip and the background knowledge hgoldner! I'll give that a shot.
I've been getting the same warning as the OP for a week or so now...
Rooted DINC, but still on stock rom. "Appears to have" plenty of space available.

There is a fix, and no it is not deleting all your apps to get it to go away.
Basically for some real dumb reason HTC has given the data/data folder 150MB of storage space and when that gets close to full you will not be able to add anymore apps to your phone. So even if you have 5+GB of space left you are stuck.
But there is an app in the market called "NotEnoughSpace" that I was a little leary on trying at first but after getting it and seeing that it works great I wanted to share this with everyone.
I was able to move Google Earth's 16MB to the partition this app created and have it work, and freed up all that space in my data/data folder.
BTW INSTRUCTIONS FOR USE:
1) Create a partition (I made a 1GB one on the phone in emmc)
2) Pick an app taking up a lot of space (like Google Earth) the app will show you how much space each app takes up in the data/data folder so you will learn why you are having an issue.
3) Click to open up the app (Inside NotEnoughSpace of course) and click all the sub directories (most apps have 4-5) and move them ALL to the partition.
That's it. And you can always move everything back if you want. But just note that if you move the app itself OR don't move every sub directory the app wont work after a reboot. Took me a few tries and multiple reboots to figure this all out but now I am good to go and freed up much space.

I had mixed results using NotEnoughSpace while reflashing ROMs and restoring my apps with Titanium. I'm a bit nervous to use it with anything I don't mind a fresh install of.

I used to have this problem all the time but since I've started flashing ROMs it hasn't been an issue. When I was running stock I would just clear the app data for my browser, facebook, and dialer (this is your text messages), usually worked.

Clearing the data for my Dialer App did the trick. Haven't had any space errors since!
Used SMS Backup+ to keep them just in case ;-)

Well, actually that's a lie. It keeps popping up at least once a month. I gotta start flashing some Roms...

I've tried cleaning everything out, but that doesn't work. Is there anyway to fix it without rooting your phone? honestly, I've never done that before, and I'm afraid I'll just trash my phone. Are all HTC phones like this?

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heatwave316 said:
I've tried cleaning everything out, but that doesn't work. Is there anyway to fix it without rooting your phone? honestly, I've never done that before, and I'm afraid I'll just trash my phone. Are all HTC phones like this?
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Without rooting you can delete apps. The lib files and to a lesser extent the data files fill up /data/data partition which has a total size of 149 mb (crazy low). Netflix has a 19.3 mb lib file and and Google Earth uses 16.61 mb. Also syncing facebook can take up a lot of space in data files.
If rooted I like link2sd which allows you to create a symbolic link for the larger files to the SD card. I am using about 70 mb of the /data/data partition only moving a few big files over to SD.

If I root my phone, do I need a new ROM or can I leave Sense UI on my phone? I'd really only being rooting to fix this issue. I'm not interested in playing with other things. I don't have much of a software/programming background, and I honestly don't want to mess with it.
Thanks.

Out of space, even on Gingerbread?

Ok, so my wife has been battling the 'out of space' issue on her droid inc for some time.
Finally, GB comes out for her inc... I think "hey, this was a huge problem, and never really solved, im SURE GB fixed this up"
Flashed the other day, and today she says it showed up again.
What the heck? Come on HTC!!
ALL of her apps are on the SD card, she has it rooted, and uses the stock email app, as well as handcent for txting.
How do i fix this?!?!

Hm, how many apps does she have installed?
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Well before This happened she had about 30-35? now its 20 or so other than the stockers

How large is the sd card?
It may b custom rom time
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Is it me, or have there been a lot of these kinds of problems cropping up? I'm kinda curious what the reason and solution is since I'm probably gonna put my dInc back on Sense sometime.

its the stock 2gb card, but both the card, and her 'sd card' report over 500mb free...

IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.

Clear out or back up and delete old mms messages.
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Trebuchette said:
IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.
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Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.

kodakeos said:
Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.
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If she's rooted, download NotEnoughSpace. It will give you direct access to the 150 megabyte \data\data partition. Every application and any contacts synced to the Incredible are dumped in there. If less than 10% is free, you'll get a low memory message, and performance will degrade.
NotEnoughSpace lets you relocate stuff out of \data\data and frees up space in that directory.
I also discourage folks from downloading all their Facebook contacts. Completely unnecessary, and all dumped into \data\data anyway.
BTW, with NotEnoughSpace, I recommend moving what can be moved until you get up to about 20% free (i.e. 30megabytes) only to emmc or a NES partition, *not* the cache. You might have to clear the cache and then the info will be missing from the apps.

[Q] Integrating System Dalvik to Rom (how safe?)

Been using titanium backup for a while now with cm7, removing stuff I don't need and pushing apps I do into the system(rom) eg you tube, facebook, no frills, speed test etc as many as i can to free up space.
But here's the question - how safe is moving system dalvik to rom?
I've been using the feature for a long time now with no Ill effects and I get 40mb+ space freed so its a great feature, but just curious if anyone knows something that should be shared here to prevent future problems for users.
PS. I checked titaniums website but there was no info on this in any of the sections
All input welcomed.

Can nobody give any input on this?
Please

I did it....once. It totally raped my phone and i had to reflash. But i also had my dalvik on sd so the best i can say is try.
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intel007 said:
Been using titanium backup for a while now with cm7, removing stuff I don't need and pushing apps I do into the system(rom) eg you tube, facebook, no frills, speed test etc as many as i can to free up space.
But here's the question - how safe is moving system dalvik to rom?
I've been using the feature for a long time now with no Ill effects and I get 40mb+ space freed so its a great feature, but just curious if anyone knows something that should be shared here to prevent future problems for users.
PS. I checked titaniums website but there was no info on this in any of the sections
All input welcomed.
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nothing wrong with it. it gives you more space, be happy.

Mi 10T Lite cache for Pictures

I discovered something, maybe someone is interested, so I'll write it briefly.
If you take a picture with the camera (whatever else, right) and then look at it in the gallery, it is cached as a preview. If you delete it, it is gone in the gallery and if you then empty the trash, it is not saved anywhere (is temporarily saved in /storage/emulated/0/MIUI/Gallery/cloud/.trahsbin). Nothing new so far.
But: if you look under /storage/emulated/0/Android/data/com.miui.gallery/gallery_disk_cache/full_size or small_size, you can still see the smaller pictures, so to speak the small preview pictures in the gallery (you can rename the .0 to .jpg). Even the oldest ones that have been made and deleted long time ago were there, just smaller (less than 1MB), but they are there and take up memory. Even a restart does not delete them. I don't know if there is any limit and if it will not be erased at some point. Otherwise it is just a kind of second backup or the memory will run out at some point in the case of frequent photographers or video takers. The security tool did not remove them when you tried to use the cleaner tool. At least in my case it didn't.

I've just looked and yes they are all there - This is a huge security issue in my opinion

That's unfortunately quite standard way for many apps which cache picture files for faster viewing, previews mostly will not get deleted automatically. App can store such previews as cache or app data, so to remove previews you need to clean corresponding category. For MIUI gallery it would be app data.
If you are concerned about storage use, clean data every now and then. If you are concerned about security - don't use your phone to take sensitive pictures.

_mysiak_ said:
That's unfortunately quite standard way for many apps which cache picture files for faster viewing, previews mostly will not get deleted automatically. App can store such previews as cache or app data, so to remove previews you need to clean corresponding category. For MIUI gallery it would be app data.
If you are concerned about storage use, clean data every now and then. If you are concerned about security - don't use your phone to take sensitive pictures.
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I disagree with this comment for a few reasons
1- There is no option to clear data of the MIUI gallery app. It only allows you to clear cache
2 - This only effects pictures taken with the stock camera app. If you use a 3rd party camera app & a different gallery app it doesn't happen (I've checked their data folders too)
3 - Define sensitive image. In my opinion any image I take is sensitive if I don't intend to share it with anyone regardless of what the image actually is. If I delete the image it should be deleted & not stored in data of the stock gallery apps data

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I disagree with this comment for a few reasons
1- There is no option to clear data of the MIUI gallery app. It only allows you to clear cache
2 - This only effects pictures taken with the stock camera app. If you use a 3rd party camera app & a different gallery app it doesn't happen (I've checked their data folders too)
3 - Define sensitive image. In my opinion any image I take is sensitive if I don't intend to share it with anyone regardless of what the image actually is. If I delete the image it should be deleted & not stored in data of the stock gallery apps data
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1. you are right, but with root access it can be done easily directly or through another app. I suppose that "MIUI optimizations" are blocking "clean data" button.
2. it happens with Simple gallery app, Total commander, Quickpic,.. Some apps store data in cache, others store them as app data. It doesn't matter if you use stock or 3rd party camera app. As soon as you open MIUI gallery or another gallery app (or allow them to be always running and scanning storage for new pictures), it generates a preview and keeps it for a future use.
3. yes I agree, but you unfortunately can't rely on this assumption. Any app with access to storage area should be considered as a source of potential data leak.
I am not defending MIUI apps (I avoid them like plague), just wanted to highlight that it's not the only app with such issue.

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1. you are right, but with root access it can be done easily directly or through another app. I suppose that "MIUI optimizations" are blocking "clean data" button.
2. it happens with Simple gallery app, Total commander, Quickpic,.. Some apps store data in cache, others store them as app data. It doesn't matter if you use stock or 3rd party camera app. As soon as you open MIUI gallery or another gallery app (or allow them to be always running and scanning storage for new pictures), it generates a preview and keeps it for a future use.
3. yes I agree, but you unfortunately can't rely on this assumption. Any app with access to storage area should be considered as a source of potential data leak.
I am not defending MIUI apps (I avoid them like plague), just wanted to highlight that it's not the only app with such issue.
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Storing them in cache is fine as the cache can be deleted - I've checked simple gallery app and it doesn't store anything permanently in data.
What I have an issue with is the permanent storage of these files in data. If they are temp files they should be stored as cache which is deleted when you clear the cache.
I agree that anything stored could be leaked however if you delete a file it should be deleted and not leave temp files behind that cannot be removed through clearing cache (by deleted I mean deleted at user level & not deleted beyond some forensic recovery tool)
Using open camera and simple gallery app no such files are left behind permanently in data

Thanks for cross-checking this. I think both of your comments are right. Many apps are keeping this cached data, but I also would like to see a possibility to clean this data for privacy reasons. The question what is considered to be sensitive is manyfold of course. I sometimes take a picture of a postal document to store it on my PC, but would also consider family pictures as private.
For me - in a good sense - it looks like a simple bug, that the authors of the SW didn't check this. In a more bad sense, but I haven't tried that (and will not ) is that this cache is possibly transferred to Xiaomi if you use a Mi-account on your device. Who knows. Just remembering the old story with this Mi-browser......
Therefore I shared, as it may fill your device storage over time, which was my main concern.

Thanks for sharing, I didn't want to discourage you or dismiss this issue as irrelevant. MIUI gallery should certainly store such data in cache folder and/or delete the preview after removal of the source picture. I am going to delete all data and disable the app through ADB, I used it only once to test the sky replacement feature anyway and now I have a good reason to disable it again.
Edit: with disabled MIUI gallery, after taking the screenshot it doesn't show the usual edit window, it saves the picture right away. Just in case if anyone wondered about the impact.

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Thanks for sharing, I didn't want to discourage you or dismiss this issue as irrelevant. MIUI gallery should certainly store such data in cache folder and/or delete the preview after removal of the source picture. I am going to delete all data and disable the app through ADB, I used it only once to test the sky replacement feature anyway and now I have a good reason to disable it again.
Edit: with disabled MIUI gallery, after taking the screenshot it doesn't show the usual edit window, it saves the picture right away. Just in case if anyone wondered about the impact.
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You can also revoke the storage permissions for the MIUI gallery app - you keep the screenshot edit window but as it doesn't have permissions to access storage it can't save the preview files to data

Interesting ,thanks for sharing.