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I've been reading the forum, and based on the information and the tools there I have been able to modify my extended ROM, which is great. Now of course I'd like to modify the main ROM as well, but despite the many hours I've spent searching the forum, I can't find the necessary information to do it. There's always something essential missing, something which probably is obvious to a programmer, but not to a normal user. As I've been able to modify the extended ROM, I guess I should be able to modify the main ROM too. Who can point me in the right direction?
from what i understand it's not even 100% possible with xda1 since people cant seem to make the extracted files back to a nbf file
and there are no tools that i know of that even extract the main rom from a xda2
As I understand it, when you upgrade the operating system, you're actually modifying the ROM. Some people here like to call it to "flash", I think, and there are a lot of messages about it in here. I just haven't found the information necessary to do it. I want to modify the ROM on my XDAII.
no the operating system is the rom which is in a eeprom in the device
when you flash the rom you replace the operating system with the new one
when you say modifying it mean more in the way of exchanging different files inside the rom
but if you just mean flashing the rom with a newer then here is a guide
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing
What does EEP stand for? How many ROMs are there?
I've seen a ROM created here for the XDAI, containing more programs than what the devices normally come with. I would like to have a ROM on my XDAII containing the programs I use, so that I don't need to reinstall them every time the device is hard reset. Isn't this possible?
What does EEP stand for?
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huh what does EEP have to do with this ?
suppose it could stand for
Executive Excellence Publishing
or
European Environmental Press
how many roms there are i think there are 1.5 1.6 1.66 and 1.72
about extra programs then they are not! in the rom they are in the extended rom any CAB file you copy to the extented will install after automatic after a hardreset
you should take a look at the romkitchens ( specifically for xda1, but can be made for xda2 as well ).
and mkrom, and the other romtools
EEPROM stands for "electrically erasable programmable read only memory".
this is sort of the predecessor of flash memory.
"electrically erasable programmable read only memory" sounds like a contradiction, but thanks for that, it makes more sense than EEPROM.
What about all of us users who don't have a Unix machine? I suppose we're stuck with the original ROM then, and have to install our programs over and over again for every hard reset. Of course you can put a few of them in the extended ROM, but it becomes full too quickly and you're left with installing the rest of them manually.
well you can upgrade to a newer rom as they come out
like i have 1.66 but if i wanted 1.72 i could upgrade
about contradiction heh yeah suppose so but then if it was 100% always READ ONLY then it would be random was what in it as how the transistors randomly set when it was produced
A newer ROM wouldn't contain the programs I want.
no :/ but it could contain bug fixes for ms and radiostack and such
i suspect that extented rom was made so it would be easier for the phonecompanys' and other 3th party resellers to get programs preinstalled fast without having to mess around too much in the rom
this is at the cost of memory though
but then some programs dident like to be in the rom i believe here i mean if setting files were places in the rom aswell and the program could not write to the setting file
mkrom also works on cygwin under windows.
( now I also wrote this in the wiki page )
Isn't that just for XDA I?
it works for windows ce in general.
that doesn't mean that there is no work involved in getting it to work, but it is possible to make it work for the xda2. I use it to build custom roms for the devices we sell, that is why I wrote it in the first place.
What's cygwin?
How much space is there in the ROM to add extra programs? In the ROM that this forum developed for XDA I they added quite many programs from what I could see.
http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&ie=UTF-8&q=cygwin&btnG=Google-søgning
Thanks for that, Rudegar.
To Itsme: I don't mind the work, but it looks like its written for programmers and that if you're not a fairly skilled programmer, you wouldn't be able to do it.
i don’t see why we shouldn’t open a section for the 4100 here. A lot of the developments that goes on here also work on the 4100.
I have done some research on it and so far I found out that the ppc4100 use 2 file to flash the rom one is the boot and the other is the WM image just like the others do. Now both of those files are nb0 format and can be extracted with dumprom.exe which is available here. It can flashed back on the ppc4100 using a flash card to hold the image and triggering it by booting with the bootstrap.
Wish list
to edit the image file ( to change certain files)
to compile the extracted files from the rom ( to customize the rom with new programs or to custom update to a newer operating system )
what does anyone think?
u can change the press icon on the 4100 its located in a file called bobo.exe in the windows folder.
see? its almost the same there is very little change i think we need to sit down for a little while and think about how good this will do.
it will bring in more readers that would like to read about the 4100 thus u will generate more traffic that also will generate more donations
so pls i dont know how to get the athoraty's attentions here at least concider it
or comment
thanks
I am very intersted in the 4100 development as well.. I was hoping someone in here or maybe a few would be interested in sharing some knowledge and possible experience. I have done a lot of research and played around quite a bit with this over the last week using various XDA tools as well as hex editor, ect. If anyone would be interested in helping please post us here.
hey jr97ai. might as well start posting here maybe we will catch someone's attention and they will declare the ppc4100 a worthy of this site
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the original rom files for the 4100 are the currunt morst recent update from at& however, both files are *.bn0 extention. as follows.
SP_E0402_230A.nb0
SP_K1112_230A.nb0
i recieved those files from audiovox a little while ago. jr97ai and myself have been working on this and have extracted the files out of the romfiles with the use of dumprom.exe. (great app by the way). i think jr97ai knows alot more about this than i do and can explain a little better.
i will attach the bootstrap rom file along with a letter that came with the cd that was sent from audiovox. i can attach the rom file as soon as i free up my bandwith
I have been playing around with mkrom and have been experiencing some problems. as it says on mkrom its not the most user friendly program. no its not, not at all, not even close. but i still try anyways lost but still trying.
if anyone can somehow point us to a direction it coul dbe verry helpful.
there might be a possibility tto use the exsisting xda WMse existing rom to use on the 4100. they seem to be similar. they do use the same operating windows after all.
well i tryed to post the rom file many times it didnt work. its uploaded in the ftp if someone can post it.
every time i try to post it shows this err.
Upload Error: Could not upload Attachment to ./files/sp_k1112_230a.rar
question to anyone who can answer.
to change the operating system from win2003 to 2003se wouldi need to change the bootstrap as well?
i am thinking i could use a nb1 and rename it to nb0 it should be the same.
if you would like to see a new section appear for the audiovox 4100 please post saying so. maybe that will gets omeone's attention.
we got 60 views and only 2 ppl have posted.
ok .. so the rom for the 4100 is in the xda ftp sire. the file is called SP_K1112_230A.rar under ppc 4100
ftp info
ady: xda-developers.com
username: xdaupload
pass: xda
im working with audiovox ppc4100 , and if u wanna dump with rom for make permenent rill file and dont losse it when u make a hard reset ,,i think the best solution its when u replace rill u can make a completat backup in a sd card then when u have to make a hard reset u can restore your backup and all will work ok...by the way i have working well mms, photo contacts , npencil , ms money , etc.
not jsut the rilgsm
now that we are able to flash the rom to the ppc4100 i am thinking we could change the operationg system. i am running towards the wm2003 se . i am trying to look for a basic rom nb1 format so i can try to flash it.
i am thinkiing it will work but i am worried about the phone part of the ppc.
do u have any thoughts on this?
No ppc4100 folder, any help please!!!
faramisimo said:
ok .. so the rom for the 4100 is in the xda ftp sire. the file is called SP_K1112_230A.rar under ppc 4100
ftp info
ady: xda-developers.com
username: xdaupload
pass: xda
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I need to reflash my PPC4100. Looking for rom and can`t find it. May be somebody have a original ROM from AT&T, or custom ROM, or WM5 ROM?
Dear Sirs and senior members and members:
At the beginning I would like to make it clear why I called the Title like that, not to make me important or to gain more readers, its because I appreciate the great efforts that have been done in this Forum to make it great and to help each other to find new ways to make your work better and better.
My Suggestion this time is to avoid the unnecessary copies of the same Rom build with all the extras or without anything “Full, Lite, Big storage etc…” and I think all of the Rom cookers faced the problem that they cant make a Rom which will make all the members satisfied, and many of them got the problem that as soon as they are finished with there ROMs a new versions appears of the same programs included in there ROMs and that way the cant be called NEW because of some old things, and the most weird thing that the Rom cookers make is to include many programs in the Rom that an be installed separately on the memory card which I can understand at all they work hard for very long time to make a fast and stable Rom as possible and they put all the extras in the Rom which make it heavy without any reason programs like “Winrar, Adobe acrobat reader, Adobe Flash lite, Real Player, etc…” puts many megabytes in the device memory and the Rom.
My SUGGESTION is very simple please use some kind of a program Like PocketPc installer (http://www.pocketpctoolkit.com/WhatIsIt1_PPCInstaller.php) which you make include all what you want of programs in it and port it with the Rom which we can copy to our memory cards to install the chosen programs that any one of us likes on the device memory or the memory card just like some modified copies of Windows XP which asks after the installation which programs to install , Please make a look at this program to get more detailed information about the idea.
Thank you for your kind Patience to read the Long post.
Ahmedkom
The foundation of XDA and its tools is built on free and open software, while windows mobile is not, the installers that are used, the build tools that are used, and the other various tools we use are built on donated time, resources, and a willing to share knowledge. We do not however want to use software that requires us to pay for to package the software that we are trying to give to the community to make better.
This is not an advertising forum, nor is this a place to try to make a false plea to our developers/packagers to buy and use software that you may own and are selling.
While your tool could be of use. If you were to release it free, I could see them using it. As for paying for something so we can give the community free roms doesn't seem very smart.
Thanks,
Andrew
exstatica said:
The foundation of XDA and its tools is built on free and open software, while windows mobile is not, the installers that are used, the build tools that are used, and the other various tools we use are built on donated time, resources, and a willing to share knowledge. We do not however want to use software that requires us to pay for to package the software that we are trying to give to the community to make better.
This is not an advertising forum, nor is this a place to try to make a false plea to our developers/packagers to buy and use software that you may own and are selling.
While your tool could be of use. If you were to release it free, I could see them using it. As for paying for something so we can give the community free roms doesn't seem very smart.
Thanks,
Andrew
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My SUGGESTION is very simple please**(Use some kind of a program Like)** PocketPc installer
Please **(Take a look at this program)** to get more detailed information about **(the idea)**.
I am not and dont have any cnnection to this site or the programm maker to push you to buy anything, and the link that i have gave is just to show you my idea with Pictures and more details .
Thank you for your replay and i would like to know your openion for this idea.
Ahmedkom
Hi ahmedkom,
I totally agree with your idea, rom chefs could make an ultra lite roms as the base rom and including an installer program to run CAB files from memory card. So that everyone could have their custom set of program and setting, and remove/updates could be apply without the process of downloading a new buly rom and take risks of flashing the device every week/few days...
CAB files could do manything from minor settings, registry, file operation to full program installation.
Beside PocketPC Installer, I suggest to use a program called CeleCommand (http://www.yonsm.net/read.php?329) for installer program. Worth try it out coz it can do many tasks..
just my 2 cents.
I totally agree ahmedkom too.
ok, i'm agree with you, but there are differences between integrating the apps and installing them after running the rom, many of apps use windows directory to install some files and that give the OS overload, otherwise if they are already integrated with the rom, they will not overload on the OS.
we have to keep this (lite and full versions) if the user doesn't need some apps integrated on the rom, he can use the lite version then he have to install whatever he wants.
the good thing from cookers is to create lite and full versions with make add ons cabs for the apps were not include on the lite version.
good thread dude for users and cookers .
Although I don't think it's a straight replacement for options, or variations I should say, in a ROM, I do think this looks like a damn useful app.
its a big honor to me to get answers from the seniors and i am very glad for you post its right but i didnt mention the programs that are installed in windows folder i am talking about the programs that we can install in the memory card just like pocket rar ,realplayer, totalcommander,gsfinder,1-calc LITE,tcpmp etc..
I have two problems with my black stone.
First i dont seem to be able to sign in to messenger with a different account. I can sign in with my own which i entered the first time, and since that the ´´sign in as...´´ doesnt work!
And secondly i have the iGO 8 v8.3.2.64029 navigation software but cant get it to work. Can anyone tell me which data.zip and sys.txt settings i need?
thx !
1. learn to use the search function. like try and search for ...iGO8 and you'll get what u are looking for
2. this is forum is for Applications and Software. use the "blackstone" forum for help.
3. i have serious doubts that yr iGO is legal if u are asking for files. we do not encourage here pirated software. beware!
since u are a newbie here i'll help, so here u have (at least for the second part of yr cry for help):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442122&highlight=igo8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471693
i am just asking for the settings to put in the sys.txt file in order to get it working in blackstones higher resolution
i am not asking for any files sorry if i didnt make myself clear
Hello everyone,
Xperia is my first Windows mobile and therefore kinda novice to some terms used in this area. My colleague helped me in installing new ROM HTC touch it. It now looks like an HTC phone with cool graphics.
I know mine is tf3d but how can i verify. Also I keep listening to terms like manila, jailbreak, brick etc can someone explain me what these terms relate to. Need little overview of all these terms used.
I tried to install new themes and therefore installed tf3d config tool but it doesnt work on my X1 gives me an error.Is there any other way of installing these themes. Mine is the default black theme.
Hey sandy,
you can check your version under the Settings tab in your TouchFlo at the point "Info".
Also, if you can switch your home clock back and forth i can assure you its TF3D .
By Manila is meant the same as with TF3D(TouchFlo 3D). Jailbreak is usually used to be a name for an iPhone hack, but in our case you can categorize it as something connected with HardSPL. It's a tool that patches your phones rom manager and allows you to flash it with custom roms(like the one you got from your friend - means that your phone is already equipped with it).
I'm not sure about compatibility with the config tool since i've never used it, but i can tell you that the easiest way of applying themes is the usage of cabs.
You can find different theme-cabs in this section (themes and applications).
If you have any other questions I'd suggest you just to ask in here.
Thanks mate for clarifying, do you have a simple procedure on how to flash rom and install new custom roms. As for theme cab file is it possible for you to provide me with one theme cab file i just wanna test it out before downloading others. I assume i can revert back to my original black theme incase i dont like the new one.
hello m8 in this thread there is very usefull tutorial on how to flash custom roms and if u bored there is also tutorial on how to get back to official sotck rom. read it carefully and in 20 mins u will become profesional flasher http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431218
i hope i helped you
The link you provided is about hardspl whats the next thing to do after hardspl? How to install custom roms available in this forums? Is there a procedure for doing this.
Actually there's always an .exe file with the rom package.
you simply start the .exe and follow the steps described.
The only thing to care about is a stable activesync/dev centre connection and a battery life of above 50%