so whenever I use google maps now and have traffic enabled, it keeps on saying something along the lines of "low on memory, disabling traffic". Now, this is NY, where there's a lot of traffic data, but this seems, a little weird.
anyone else see this or now how to handle it well?
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so whenever I use google maps now and have traffic enabled, it keeps on saying something along the lines of "low on memory, disabling traffic". Now, this is NY, where there's a lot of traffic data, but this seems, a little weird.
anyone else see this or now how to handle it well?
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Yeah happens on mine too.
Odd... Just curious, have you guys used the traffic feature in Google Navigation? I've never had this issue with either, but perhaps our traffic jams in Colorado are puny in comparison
new york city area is flooded with traffic data including many of the city streets, it's not just highway, so it makes sense why lots of data, but windows mobile doesn't have a memory issue.
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new york city area is flooded with traffic data including many of the city streets, it's not just highway, so it makes sense why lots of data, but windows mobile doesn't have a memory issue.
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Google Maps has been adding more & more city streets as well... You didn't answer my question about navi tho
haven't tried, don't drive with nav that much
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haven't tried, don't drive with nav that much
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It has traffic as well. Just curious if both are effected.
I have the same problem
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Today, I took my wife to work and took my TP2 and turned on GPS with Google Maps knowing full well that once I got her to her job, I would have no T-Mobile service. The moment I lost the signal, GPS continue to plot me correctly up to the point it needed updating my maps and I got "Network Unavailable". I have an 8GB microSD card installed. My question to all is can GPS run independent of the network and if not, is there a 3rd party software that will run on the Windows Mobile OS? I like to know if I lose service I still have GPS. I can't imagine what dumbass came up with the idea to tether data services to GPS knowing there will be situations where service might not be available, for example severe weather knocks out a tower. Wasn't the idea into GPS to be independent. I get needing data services if I don't have a memory card; I don't get the logic that says, the moment I lose my cellular provider's service I'm SOL; thanks!
This is an unfortunate limitation to Google Maps. Although there is a workaround of sorts. If you cache the map data by doing all the stuff while you are in a good service area, when you are there it won't need to download all the stuff. This is a pain I agree, but it works.
yes, that is a GoogleMaps feature, but it has nothing to do with GPS - it has to download maps as it goes. if you install other software with built-in maps, e.g., tomtom, you will be free from your networks.
gehzumteufel said:
This is an unfortunate limitation to Google Maps. Although there is a workaround of sorts. If you cache the map data by doing all the stuff while you are in a good service area, when you are there it won't need to download all the stuff. This is a pain I agree, but it works.
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Yes, works nice, used this 'workaround' for my past holidays. The only drawback is that Google Maps does cache the maps in the device memory and not on the memory-card, thus filling up the device memory pretty fast
Anybody knowing how to change this behaviour?
MeCry
Ahh I was unaware of that. I assume then that it would be solved by installing Google Maps to your SD card instead of device memory.
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Today, I took my wife to work and took my TP2 and turned on GPS with Google Maps knowing full well that once I got her to her job, I would have no T-Mobile service. The moment I lost the signal, GPS continue to plot me correctly up to the point it needed updating my maps and I got "Network Unavailable". I have an 8GB microSD card installed. My question to all is can GPS run independent of the network and if not, is there a 3rd party software that will run on the Windows Mobile OS? I like to know if I lose service I still have GPS. I can't imagine what dumbass came up with the idea to tether data services to GPS knowing there will be situations where service might not be available, for example severe weather knocks out a tower. Wasn't the idea into GPS to be independent. I get needing data services if I don't have a memory card; I don't get the logic that says, the moment I lose my cellular provider's service I'm SOL; thanks!
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A-GPS is dependent on the Carrier. No other solution to access GPS according to Wikipedia.
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A-GPS is dependent on the Carrier. No other solution to access GPS according to Wikipedia.
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NO, you completely missed the point. There is a real GPS in the phone.. Fairly daft, but actual GPS chipset which gets data from satellites, not entirely dependent on cellular coverage.
But he's trying to navigate based on Google Maps, which requires constant data. The answer is to get something with maps.. iGO, TomTom, etc.. Earthcomber is another free one that'll do "Google Map-like" routing and it's free, but not sure it's worth it.
^agreed
you guys are using pretty strong language to describe something that's, imho, user error. a small problem with free information on the interwebs is that, unless you can articulate exactly what you're looking for, you may not find the answer... making you the perfect customer for the sales clerk selling you $70/month data plan.
GPS is different from aGPS(assisted). the TP2 has both. that is, it has the GPS chip that can receive the satellite signal, and it is aGPS capable in that it uses cell tower triangulation and other wifi IP info. in both cases, you'll need maps on your device so it can place the satellite coordinates for you to see. GoogleMaps does this by downloading maps a-la-carte.
like Mesquire said in post3, if you buy independent maps and install them on your SD card (TomTom,Garmin,IGO,etc), your phone can be in FlightMode and still receive the satellite signal with the GPS chip, and still plot the coordinates on YOUR map, without WIFI, without Data plan, without Cell signal. but you'd have to turn aGPS off so it doesn't interfere. Keyword here is to use Your Own map, and turn aGPS off.
i'm no expert in this, and the above is my humble interpretation, but i just wanted to say, take a deep breath, and see if it's not user error that's causing the frustration.
aGPS also includes atmospheric aberration correction data to make the GPS coordinates more accurate. People seem to leave this out and think it is just internet data. This is false.
gehzumteufel said:
aGPS also includes atmospheric aberration correction data to make the GPS coordinates more accurate. People seem to leave this out and think it is just internet data. This is false.
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Recently installed the latest update (Version 3.2.1) on our USA T-Mobile Touch Pro 2's.
One of the phones exhibited the following problem:
Satellite View in Google Maps for my current location shows clouds and bluish gray banding as zoom is increased beyond first level. Some areas even show winter like views even though the rest shows green foliage. This only occurs on one of the phones and only when looking at the satellite view of our area. Going to other areas of the USA has not exhibited this issue.
Have performed the "Clear Storage" program internal to System Settings and reloaded Google Maps. This has had no effect. Also have used SK Tools to clean out temp and cache files which has not solved the problem.
Does anyone have suggestions to resolve this issue.
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Recently installed the latest update (Version 3.2.1) on our USA T-Mobile Touch Pro 2's.
One of the phones exhibited the following problem:
Satellite View in Google Maps for my current location shows clouds and bluish gray banding as zoom is increased beyond first level. Some areas even show winter like views even though the rest shows green foliage. This only occurs on one of the phones and only when looking at the satellite view of our area. Going to other areas of the USA has not exhibited this issue.
Have performed the "Clear Storage" program internal to System Settings and reloaded Google Maps. This has had no effect. Also have used SK Tools to clean out temp and cache files which has not solved the problem.
Does anyone have suggestions to resolve this issue.
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SERIOUSLY??? I guess you haven't used Google Maps much. Different locations have different imagery. Some higher/lower res, some different seasons, and yes, some places are obscured by clouds.
Has zero to do with the phone. If you were seeing different results when looking at the same area that'd be downright weird, but I don't get the impression that's what you're talking about.
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SERIOUSLY??? I guess you haven't used Google Maps much. Different locations have different imagery. Some higher/lower res, some different seasons, and yes, some places are obscured by clouds.
Has zero to do with the phone. If you were seeing different results when looking at the same area that'd be downright weird, but I don't get the impression that's what you're talking about.
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I have used Google Maps extensively. If you had read my question more thoroughly, you would have noted that I said that my other Touch ProII phone did not show the cloudy image when looking at the same area .
lmao. Satellite view isn't a live feed. (though that'd be awesome)
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I have used Google Maps extensively. If you had read my question more thoroughly, you would have noted that I said that my other Touch ProII phone did not show the cloudy image when looking at the same area .
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Screenshots please
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lmao. Satellite view isn't a live feed. (though that'd be awesome)
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You're absolutely correct. That is why both phones should show the same image from google maps when lookiong at the same area. So could the map on the one phone somehow gotten corrupted and if so, how can it be corrected since uninstalling and reinstalling Google Maps has not corrected the problem? Also the cache has been cleaned.
Here is a screen shot.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with your phone or your installation of Google Maps on your phone. The problem actually lies at Google. Sometimes, when they take areal photos from different sources or photos that were shot during different weather conditions or times of the day, they will look significantly different than the adjacent square. That is the case with your location.
If you open your location on Google Maps on your computer, you will see that it shows up exactly the same as on your phone. Here's a link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...4774,-93.44902&spn=0.084575,0.174923&t=h&z=13
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with your phone or your installation of Google Maps on your phone. The problem actually lies at Google. Sometimes, when they take areal photos from different sources or photos that were shot during different weather conditions or times of the day, they will look significantly different than the adjacent square. That is the case with your location.
If you open your location on Google Maps on your computer, you will see that it shows up exactly the same as on your phone. Here's a link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...4774,-93.44902&spn=0.084575,0.174923&t=h&z=13
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SERIOUSLY??? I guess you haven't used Google Maps much. Different locations have different imagery. Some higher/lower res, some different seasons, and yes, some places are obscured by clouds.
Has zero to do with the phone. If you were seeing different results when looking at the same area that'd be downright weird, but I don't get the impression that's what you're talking about.
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There's absolutely nothing wrong with your phone or your installation of Google Maps on your phone. The problem actually lies at Google. Sometimes, when they take areal photos from different sources or photos that were shot during different weather conditions or times of the day, they will look significantly different than the adjacent square. That is the case with your location.
If you open your location on Google Maps on your computer, you will see that it shows up exactly the same as on your phone. Here's a link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sou...4774,-93.44902&spn=0.084575,0.174923&t=h&z=13
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Well, I'll be - you are correct. Both of our computers show the same image for our location. We don't often check since there is typically no need. We recently updated Google Maps on our computers also. They must have changed the maps in the 3.2.1 update. The reason that area is clear on our other Touch ProII phone must be because the map was cached from the original Google Maps that came with the phone.
Thanks all for the help and responses.
The gps is not very good atleast it is not working very well in my phone.
I tried using cardio trainer. And the gps jumps about. Plus the gps signal shown is very low can anyone put their phone gps through the paces and then tell me should I ask for a replacement or its in all phones
Mines fine.
Mine works fine, GPS is actually pretty good as navigation tells you the road names..!
Dopedangel said:
The gps is not very good atleast it is not working very well in my phone.
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Can you clarify if you're talking about hardware or software?
And did you compare GS with other GPS at the very same time and place?
I too am seeing poor performance with the GPS. Seems to be a hardware issue.
I did a test over the weekend comparing my Galaxy S with a friend's HTC Desire. Using one of the many GPS utilities the Desire was consistently seeing and locking more satellites when stood in an open area outside. When running Google maps and showing the current location I found that the "accuracy circle" (for want of a better description) was growing and shrinking several times a minute causing the map to zoom in and out.
I've also noticed that the compass is almost unusable and showing a much lower signal compared to the Desire. I did perform the figure of 8 calibration several times.
Not tried the GPS yet, but I'm amazed how accurate network location is on this thing.
On my old G1 network location was laughable, but this thing knows pretty much exactly where it is without GPS.
MarvinTheAndroid said:
Not tried the GPS yet, but I'm amazed how accurate network location is on this thing.
On my old G1 network location was laughable, but this thing knows pretty much exactly where it is without GPS.
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probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
tommy34 said:
probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
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No, this is with wifi turned off.
tommy34 said:
probably having wifi on? google can locate you more precise cause it has registered every wifi network during the streetview picture taking.
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Lol what kind of anti-google propaganda have you been reading?
Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks.
Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
Also. You have to have at least 3 networks to be able to determine a location using wifi access points.
So the statement you just made is rubbish and ofcourse nonsense...
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Lol what kind of anti-google propaganda have you been reading?
Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks.
Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
Also. You have to have at least 3 networks to be able to determine a location using wifi access points.
So the statement you just made is rubbish and ofcourse nonsense...
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i dont care about it, i like it.
hmm. just figured this because where i live there arent any open networks and with wifi on it knows my exact location. Without wifi it has a 1600 m radius.
The GPS seems to work flawlessly for me at least.
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Google streetview cars collected data of open wifi networks. Besides from the fact that google doesn't use the data (which it isn't allowed to have), there are by far not enough open wifi networks to find your location.
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Google collected the SSID and MAC addresses for all of the wifi networks they found, with the explicit intention of using them as an additional source of location data. They also inadvertently collected more data from open networks, and that's what they're in trouble for.
googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-update.html
yes and the new google navigation api in the i9000 and android appears to use this data as the damn thing turns on your wifi even when off when gps tries to get a fix!
lgkahn said:
yes and the new google navigation api in the i9000 and android appears to use this data as the damn thing turns on your wifi even when off when gps tries to get a fix!
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you can disable it in location settings then it wont look for wireless data
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you can disable it in location settings then it wont look for wireless data
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nope it is disabled and try to get a gps fix.. wifi still comes on and then goes off.. not sure what it is doing.
I got mine and tested.
In the beginning I had a perfect fix on location. When I started moving, however, I experienced this "jumping around" issue with a huge loss of accuracy. The circle of accuracy was also changing constantly. I think I show something about the wifi seeing (or not being able to see - can't remember) some hotspots although my wi-fi was turned off.
Maybe indeed - the phone detects wifi networks even if the wifi as such is off and possibly compares it to an internal database (thus explaining the persistence of the problem even when the radio is off and the phone is not connected on the net).
Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
That's bad news,i'm really interested in this phone (money-forgiving for a while ),but i need great gps performances...
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Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
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Try "GPS Test" its on the market for free. From my test the GPS is actually quite nice, several 18-25 SNR connections and a few 26-30 SNR ones ( When outside I even find one or two 31-40 SNR ones which is really great).
Anyway I notice that GPS had become far more accurate when I disabled the Wifi-location option. The only problem is that locking down takes some time ( about 10-20 seconds max) in my area.
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Try "GPS Test" its on the market for free. From my test the GPS is actually quite nice, several 18-25 SNR connections and a few 26-30 SNR ones ( When outside I even find one or two 31-40 SNR ones which is really great).
Anyway I notice that GPS had become far more accurate when I disabled the Wifi-location option. The only problem is that locking down takes some time ( about 10-20 seconds max) in my area.
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ok - i will test with that and revert..
By the way, in my wm6 Touch HD there was a utility called quickgps which would download data from server instead of having them downloaded from a satellite with a low speed connection. This increased speed of cold lock. Furthermore there was also another option to enable assisted gps (not sure whether this was different from the quick gps application and what this did exactly). I wonder whether these application / features are automatically enabled in our case.
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I got mine and tested.
In the beginning I had a perfect fix on location. When I started moving, however, I experienced this "jumping around" issue with a huge loss of accuracy. The circle of accuracy was also changing constantly. I think I show something about the wifi seeing (or not being able to see - can't remember) some hotspots although my wi-fi was turned off.
Maybe indeed - the phone detects wifi networks even if the wifi as such is off and possibly compares it to an internal database (thus explaining the persistence of the problem even when the radio is off and the phone is not connected on the net).
Do you know any good free program that would allow me to get some test data - e.g. number of satellites / signal quality etc (unless there is already one somewhere in the interface - I am new to Android).
Can someone else run a test? Can some one run a test in an area where no wifi exists.
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It can also be a problem of google navigation beta?? Did anyone try another gps navigator?
i felt the same thing about GPS, as it is not that good , as there's no wi-fi Google can detect hear. the performance was not that good at all!.
but tonight i used the GPS without the Wifi (i turned it off) and for a surprise the performance was amazing, I was with my friend in his car watching the road as he drive and watching the google map in my phone and was very good indeed.
that's strange!.
i'm off on hols tomorrow (cuba) and want to log a few trecks with gps. mobile data will be off and airplane mode on.
in that scenario will gps count as data usage? i assume not but want to be sure
i plan on using mytracks or jogtracker to track my course. it'll only store gps data afaik but will be overlayed on google maps once i've uploaded it after coming home, or if i find wifi over there.
That won't work, It has to download the maps themselves from Google Maps and the GPS uses the web to assist it.
I used OpenGPS abroad (which works in very similar way) with Mobile Network disabled and was only collecting GPS data.
The app tracked my positions, drew the line but and Google Maps were not loaded.
So yes, it should work - as long as you keep Mobile Network disabled you will not be charged for pure GPS data usage.
And you can download the Google Maps layer once you come home.
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I used OpenGPS abroad (which works in very similar way) with Mobile Network disabled and was only collecting GPS data.
The app tracked my positions, drew the line but and Google Maps were not loaded.
So yes, it should work - as long as you keep Mobile Network disabled you will not be charged for pure GPS data usage.
And you can download the Google Maps layer once you come home.
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Ignoreme - completely misread that...
thanks guys.
ferus, sounds like jogtracker/my tracks that doesn't it? i guess they all just show you pretty much the same info anyways
off to a fair few places and want to be able to look at maps when i got home and see where i trekked across.
hope this works
GPS abroad
I turn off roaming data while abroad as very expensive but I do use GPS and Mapdroyd for location based apps. Mapdroyd stores maps on SD card. Some countries have better detail than others. Works on aircraft as well.
David
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That won't work, It has to download the maps themselves from Google Maps and the GPS uses the web to assist it.
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No, GPS will work fine offline and My Tracks will be fine without any data connection. I've personally tried that, you just won't get an overlay but it'll record the tracks. You can see the track later with an overlay on My Tracks or on a computer.
what may happen is the google maps crying "need data connection" though. So you'd be better off installing the brut.mod anyway
got the brut mod.
anyway to download maps for a place before i actually go there? ot my sd card i mean so brut has all the maps anyway
I am thinking of purchasing a Motorola droid with a car mount/media station for cheap (probably around 100$) and i was wondering if i could use it as a gps without cell phone service?
i wouldn't see why not... gps is simply a signal just like wifi(if its free of course) it would be just like buying a tomtom i would imagine... try putting ur phone into airplane mode and testing the gps
Of course, do keep in mind that both Google Maps and Sprint Nav need a data connection at least initially to download the route information. The new GMaps is supposed to be able to work offline once it does the initial route, though you may need a connection if you veer off course.
There is at least one app that works off maps on the SD card, but I can't recall its name right now.
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i wouldn't see why not... gps is simply a signal just like wifi(if its free of course) it would be just like buying a tomtom i would imagine... try putting ur phone into airplane mode and testing the gps
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I will tomorrow.
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Of course, do keep in mind that both Google Maps and Sprint Nav need a data connection at least initially to download the route information. The new GMaps is supposed to be able to work offline once it does the initial route, though you may need a connection if you veer off course.
There is at least one app that works off maps on the SD card, but I can't recall its name right now.
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If you think of it, please let me know!
CoPilot Live lets you store the maps on your SD, or so they claim. The reviews on the market aren't too great though.
http://www.alk.com/copilot/android/
There are others as well, a quick search yields:
http://www.mapdroyd.com/
http://www.ndriveweb.com/products/product/96/
http://www.sygic.com/index.php/en/how-to-buy.html
Perhaps others too. But I can't vouch for any of these. I'm fine using GMaps even with the data connection requirements. Especially now that you don't need a data connection all the time -- only when generating a new route. I'm not sure whether it can handle simple missed turns without a connection or if it doesn't cache anything outside the route. I haven't tested that yet.
I've never found a maps or navigation program that I like other than Google, and I've tried pretty much all of them. They're a hassle to get maps for. The new GMaps does cache tiles, though I haven't tested it extensively, and I don't know that it caches maps in the Navigation program (which I use all the time as well).
GPS will lock even with no cell service. But unless you find a good offline map app, you'll just have your nice little blue arrow showing you exactly where you are on a plain gray featureless map.