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Are there any ( current ) reasons NOT to root?

Just wondering - there seems to be across various threads hints at reasons not too, such as iffy GPS & battery performance hit.
Anything I should be aware of before I try ( just made a Goldard )

If you screw up the Apps2SD installation, you can kiss your USB functionality goodbye. It's less concerning because it's affecting very few people, but it's more concerning because nobody really knows why it happens in the first place. They're still working on possible fixes.
I've experienced better battery life, myself.

J-Zeus said:
Just wondering - there seems to be across various threads hints at reasons not too, such as iffy GPS & battery performance hit.
Anything I should be aware of before I try ( just made a Goldard )
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Search! Read! Post new thread anyway? Sigh!!!
I came on the forum for a look around about 45 minutes ago, ever since I have been reading and reporting threads (as per recent mod request) that shouldn't exist in the first place.
Please search, read, learn instead, far more fruitful and doesn't damage the forum usability for everyone else.

Good thread. I learned something here.
Go easy on the OP.
It's not that easy to search and find the older threads because few people tag their threads. In this case he did fine the threads but perhaps he wants to know in the context of THIS phone? Also, this thingy evolves very fast so an updated info is probably warranted.

Sorry j-zeus if I was a little over zealous there. This was about the fifth thread I had come across. I'm sure you can appreciate the irony of stating in your OP that you had found other threads on the subject but that you had decided to start a new one anyway.
Anyway, I didn't mean to be rude or combative, I just wanted to point you in the right direction for future posts. It really does make life easier if the forum is well organized without multiple threads on the same subject.
Cheers.

One reason NOT to root now that I could think of:
Google IO is only few weeks from now (May 19-20), there they will most probably announce Froyo, Android 2.2.
It would be wise to wait what will come out.
APP2SD will be native if they include it in 2.2 (I [email protected]!).

@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).

1 reason is: it wipes your phone and you get a random other rom, which might have stuff missing you are used to.
sense for example is missing for sure.

This is the kind of thread where my sig really makes a lot of sense...

J-Zeus said:
@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).
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I agree the search facility is not the best on this forum and after searching for a few hours its easier to give up as i have normally lost the will to live by then.

and it's funny that there's an exact same thread right below this one.

snudel said:
1 reason is: it wipes your phone and you get a random other rom, which might have stuff missing you are used to.
sense for example is missing for sure.
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Sense is only missing if you... pick a ROM that's missing Sense. That's a very silly and misleading thing to say.
The default rootedupdate.zip that's provided with the unlocking method is just the stock ROM with root; it still has Sense. Half the ROMs on XDA for the Desire still have Sense. Saying you lose Sense when you get root is just flat-out false.

pympster said:
This is the kind of thread where my sig really makes a lot of sense...
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LOL - thats a big 10/4 Papa Bear

Mokurex
"and it's funny that there's an exact same thread right below this one. "
That's not my fault - the thread was moved!!!

Although this is now going off topic can I say I agree the search on here is ****. Plus, if people keep having a go at people for starting new threads then you will probably finds this will stop people from posting what might be valuable info for fear of being rebuked.
And yes, why do people feel the need to preach about seaching? Get a feckin life!!!!

firedup said:
Although this is now going off topic can I say I agree the search on here is ****. Plus, if people keep having a go at people for starting new threads then you will probably finds this will stop people from posting what might be valuable info for fear of being rebuked.
And yes, why do people feel the need to preach about seaching? Get a feckin life!!!!
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Thats not on really, I did try the search before I added my post and I was easily able to find threads relating to this topic which is where this question should have been posted. Even the OP acknowledges the existence of other threads in the.. er... OP.
I added a note to the J-Zeus in case he/she felt my response was over zealous as upon re-reading it it does sound a little sarcastic and he/she has responded amicably. The thread has been moved since my post.
I have been using this forum ever since I got involved in hacking my XDAII (new account since then as lost my details) and the desire section is the messiest I've seen, I guess because this is the first iPhone killing android phone and has proven to be unbelievably popular. I was only trying to ensure this forum remains usable, ordered and collaborative.
What I said was in line with the forum rules, your response isn't.

J-Zeus said:
@ farnsbarns
No worries - I do know how to search and did. I find it somewhat over the top as it throws up 28 thousand snippets of information that you have to trawl through only to find it's out of date already - and for a non techie like me this leads to masses of confusion. I post the question to get the latest feedback, not stuff from 2 months ago ( also as posted it helps others too ).
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Coolio!
BTW I don't know if you have spotted but there are 3 search tools on the forum. The one at the top between new posts and quick links is a...
'site:xda-developers.com <your term here>' Google search.
But once you are in a thread, at the top of the OP there is the option to 'search this thread' which may help out in some searches as it is, of course, limited to the current thread only.
In any given forum section, in the same position, there is the option to 'search this forum'

gogol said:
One reason NOT to root now that I could think of:
Google IO is only few weeks from now (May 19-20), there they will most probably announce Froyo, Android 2.2.
It would be wise to wait what will come out.
APP2SD will be native if they include it in 2.2 (I [email protected]!).
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So Desire will get an update from Android 2.1 to Android 2.2 (Froyo) ?

So Desire will get an update from Android 2.1 to Android 2.2 (Froyo) ?
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By no means guaranteed but hopefully! I am sure they will make it exclucive to the N1 for a while. Even if there is no official update I rather suspect it'll find it's way onto the device through the Devs here and else where.

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By no means guaranteed but hopefully! I am sure they will make it exclucive to the N1 for a while. Even if there is no official update I rather suspect it'll find it's way onto the device through the Devs here and else where.
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IMO that would be very strage if Desire wont get Froyo and would be dated after two months.
But I have seen Google Nexus One with Desire's OS, which means we will be able to put Nexus One's or Magic's Froyo if it wont be offered officialy ?

eta for working camera and sound?`

Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith

i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...

It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.

You could have asked this in one of the main threads... or used the search function to search for your answer which has been all along "when we get it we get it... no eta"
Seems pointless to start a new thread on this thats all

smithisize said:
It's an honest enough question here.
I don't mean to seem impatient, because i'm not. I'm happy with what there is. Was simply wondering, especially because I may be able to contribute to the project.
If you're going to flame though, I guess it's time to get your caps-lock on. Won't bother me.
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No one questions your honesty. It is just that this topic has been discussed ad nauseum. It would have been easier for you to just to do a simple search.
...It's an honest enough answer here.

HeXeD said:
i feel a flaming coming on... you might want to read some threads before speaking in here...
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haha.. a good roast always teaches you to use the search function anyways .lol

smithisize said:
Hi, I'm using android on my tilt 2 right now and like it quite a bit. However, I won't use it full time because it doesn't have sound support or camera support, or bluetooth lol.
Do we have an ETA for those things?
Also, would someone please instruct me as to how I can find/measure the hardware interrupts of the device so that I may pass the info along to some other developers I know who don't have an HTC phone.
Thanks
Smith
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Last I heard was something about by July, but refusing to lock it down to a specific year.

no1 knows man, it will come out when it comes out ,just gotta wait

This question has been asked many times in this forums, but at the current state for the Rhodium, we don't have drivers for the sound from what I have heard.
As for bluetooth, I am not sure what the current state is, but I heard that the bluetooth is a completely different from other devices that HTC has made.
Kenichi

Maybe we should make this a sticky for those who can't read too good or are too lazy to use the search option. Kind of getting tired of going through the main thread and half the posts are just the same regurgitated questions. Or maybe we should create a ban if the same question has been asked more than say 3 times.

If you want to help there is some IRC channel or something I think I remember reading. or PM phhusson maybe? He seems to be heavily involved.
In case you didnt notice, people are a little sensitive about the sound/camera questions around here. Probably because they were flamed for asking it too It almost like it is the first question everyone asks when running android for the first time.

cameraand sound?
I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
When people get it to work is when you will have it. I don't think anyone knows exactly how it works, something to do with hardware issues, so until it's cracked/figured out there can't be a date.

roast him !!!!

kawasaki9r said:
I think that's like asking when exactly will Windows Phone 7 come out, or when will the next solar eclipse be, maybe even, where did you put your keys last?
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That's it! I now know we're getting sound and bluetooth on July 11th this year, at precisely 19:34:38 UTC!
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2010/TSE2010.html
Sorry, couldn't resist Gotta admit, eclipses are really interesting things. Maybe read about 'em to pass the time while the chefs continue do their awesome work on these difficult technological puzzles.

really
some of you guys are funny and make jokes about it which is funny and tolerable, but then we have those "followers" that repeat what is already stated (roast em this and that it was said already really how many posts do we have to see about that.) its a forum, it a community and give positive help and stop always cherping because a. u probably didnt have the nadz to roast anyone and b. really you didnt have to come to the post to read it you could have easliy went to the next one. its ten times easier to give help and pass a joke damn stop being so uptight become a leader not a follower...pretty much everything is unknown till they release it or they mention it on the site, but feel as thou the camera will probably be the last thing thou if they do get it to work properly (all speculative based on the fuze)

A good read: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=121743

Well, it's good to see some positive feedback on here
I appreciate all of your guys' answers!

I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?

Scotchy49 said:
I came accross this video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6pr8AJxbg
It is showing a working speaker while in-call @ 4min.
How's that possible ?
I guess it was a mistake making the ARM9 launch the rear-speaker when in call, but can't that help ?
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he was using the speakerphone when he booted android. you know, it seems a lot of crap is dependant upon being active in windows for it to work in android (keyboard backlight, front hardkey lights, etc.). i wonder is there a way to make everything active at boot time, like camera, speaker, etc etc. not saying it would magically make the stuff work properly, but might make it easier to mess with some stuff to try n get it working ?

I was thinking the same thing, I tried playing music when I started up android.. no luck, and the speaker phone is just a line the the startup.txt if Im remembering correctly

Updated Froyo 2.2

Closed Thread

Wait, what is this exactly?

Dude, where the hell have you been? There has always been a working froyo since day one. You are totally ignorant to figure that out just now..

Thanks for the kind words. I Know 2.2 has been here for awhile, but I have never been able to get it running properly till now.

A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.

Serren said:
A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.

Your comment doesn't even fit in the context of the first post, so what's your point? Your lack of caring in no way outweighs our lack of caring, so I guess we are at an impasse. Conclusion, these are the very same files you will find on the latest linux kernel zImages and modules website
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.
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If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
btw jz3 you just edited your first post so I guess you finally realized they are more builds out there and not just one.

thanks gona try it out

What is this exactly? Where did you get this system build from? It looks like stinebd's stock build, which i label as "reference" since its untouched.

jz3 said:
Don't believe the posts below, this is NOT Reefs build! See thumbnails below.
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Whose build is it then?

Reefermattness said:
What is this? The exact same thing as in my thread? lol.... wow ive seen it all now.
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Hmm, just got back into town and see the bashing continues. Reef, did you actually download and examine my file to come to this conclusion? I will take the high road here since I did appreciate Reef's dedication to this project. Thanks Serren & lordstrife for my back. This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.

no no no no no... i dont wanna see this. lets remember our common goals.
did anyone try this yet? i couldnt get it running just yet but i keep getting errors after the keyboard selection when i press run android.
havnt had too much time to tweak, but hey... cant we all jus get along? unity friends

hello00 said:
If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
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Take your own advice!

I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2

oh4sho said:
I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2
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Tell your
Iphone friends to goto jailbreak me.com on their iPhones and follow the directions.

jz3 said:
This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.
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Good. We are all disgusted when people steal things and try to claim them as their own.
Maybe if you said where it came from, how you put it together, or highlighted HOW it's different from other builds that are already posted, we would be MUCH more receptive... But from your first post, it just looks like you stole it and tried to pass it off as something you built. That is just shameful, and will NOT be tolerated on this forum.

I didnt see any claim of ownership, unless the post was edited.
A history of the files and such of course would be helpful. And credit given to those who actually created the files is a no-brainer.
But still, I know XDA is the "big leagues", but cant we be a bit nicer? For all we know, this guy could be the next big thing. Just saying...

he edited his first post saying that he has a working froyo he never said it was his but it looked like it since he hasn't given any credit to whomever that build belongs to

in the OP he said it was not reef's build. He's not taking credit, but he's not giving it either, which is probably what bothered most of the people in this thread.
Only the guilty run like cowards IMO.

Roast him !!!

[q] new ota??? 3.29.651.5

Found this today, any ROM makers have this yet? Does anyway know the benefits?

gotshores said:
Found this today, any ROM makers have this yet? Does anyway know the benefits?
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If they had it working for our phones, it'd be released. Your statement ends with a question mark, it belongs in the QUESTION and answer section. Please try to post with a little more responsibility.
If you're too lazy to read everything above- Stop being a Chav

MadhouseMedic said:
If they had it working for our phones, it'd be released. Your statement ends with a question mark, it belongs in the QUESTION and answer section. Please try to post with a little more responsibility.
If you're too lazy to read everything above- Stop being a Chav
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There are a few devs that have had this as early as last weekend - hence having the new 1.77 PRI. There is also a new radio associated with this release. It will begin to be pushed OTA by Sprint tomorrow (9/22) - and that is official.

MadhouseMedic said:
If they had it working for our phones, it'd be released. Your statement ends with a question mark, it belongs in the QUESTION and answer section. Please try to post with a little more responsibility.
If you're too lazy to read everything above- Stop being a Chav
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ouch!
[facepalm/]

you found it?
you dont find an ota update.....
care to explain yourself and provide proof....
hope you downloaded it but told it to install later then went and saved the file to your pc and uploaded to a hosting site and are now going to provide a link to the file so people can examine it......
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

its about time an official update will will show up.
3.28 has been running around forever now.
it was posted on sdx-developers...
Software Version: HTC - EVO 4G (A9292) - 3.29.651.5
Release Date: 9/22/2010
Update Method: Available OTA + Retail
Version History:
Calendar Event Edit Issue
Multiple Gmail Account Sync
30 FPS uncapped
GPS Reboot
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/news/new-ota-out-92210-3-29-651-5/msg92650/?PHPSESSID=jcdhbahnat5dufcg116ebk4171#msg92650
seems like the fps cap is fixed out the box now. but, no new sense for us yet.

jerdog said:
There are a few devs that have had this as early as last weekend - hence having the new 1.77 PRI. There is also a new radio associated with this release. It will begin to be pushed OTA by Sprint tomorrow (9/22) - and that is official.
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jasongthang said:
ouch!
[facepalm/]
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...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.

wow
MadhouseMedic said:
If they had it working for our phones, it'd be released. Your statement ends with a question mark, it belongs in the QUESTION and answer section. Please try to post with a little more responsibility.
If you're too lazy to read everything above- Stop being a Chav
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Dude chill!

MadhouseMedic said:
...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.
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I dunno Madhouse, it doesn't seem like your typical Q&A question. I'm in this forum for dev reasons and this "question" fits everything I come here for. I would have never saw this, nor looked, nor knew to look, in the Q&A section. I'm just saying...

+1 for douche comments by MadhouseMedic
MadhouseMedic said:
...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.
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+1 for douche comments by MadhouseMedic

MadhouseMedic said:
...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.
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Love the dude joining 3 months ago calling everyone tools.
"Pot? This is kettle. You're black!"

you guys all need to quit being douche bags and stop asking douche bag questions, it is a complete madhouse here and medic is tired of dealing with you idiots

MadhouseMedic said:
...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.
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Lol dude you're calling people tools when you were the asshole that jumped on the OP in the first place. You have 48 posts, you're pretty much just as much a noob as OP lol. Why the hell do you care where and what he posts?

...Wow
The level of intelligence i am dealing with on these boards is amazingly low.
Obviously i meant if it were released IN FULL. It hasn't. You tools would rather ignore the noob posting in the wrong forum with an idiotic question and try to argue with me though im sure.
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Love the dude joining 3 months ago calling everyone tools.
"Pot? This is kettle. You're HI black!"
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Did you say black?
Back that nand up

yep, i'm a noob
Here's the link, i thought you could download it, but it just looks like info.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/new...PHPSESSID=a2debbn1eaefccuu5acmc45e14#msg92650
Sorry to the guy with the super high intelligence. I grovel at your feet....unworthy, unworthy! Seriously though, sorry if this is in the wrong spot, but no need to be an ass.

gotshores said:
Here's the link, i thought you could download it, but it just looks like info.
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/new...PHPSESSID=a2debbn1eaefccuu5acmc45e14#msg92650
Sorry to the guy with the super high intelligence. I grovel at your feet....unworthy, unworthy! Seriously though, sorry if this is in the wrong spot, but no need to be an ass.
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Dont worry about it, just drop it. There are a few people that get pissed because it happens ALOT and by new people. So some people think they have to be rough so other people see and learn also. All I have to say is poor Toastcfh, he has to move all them and deal with the bickering. Just try to read the forum rules

that didn't take long for this thread to incinerate itself

*yawn* good thing dwertz explained.
As far as the ota is concerned--hope it's true.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

funcrusher said:
*yawn* good thing dwertz explained.
As far as the ota is concerned--hope it's true.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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I've been around SDX for a bit and jerdog has proven himself to drop some very accurate knowledge when it comes to release dates and inside info from Sprint. He's stated on a few occasions he's some kind of higher level tech for Sprint on the radio and towers end. I trust his info.

Is this going to mean new kernels once it and the source code are released. Im one of the rookies but im thinking the new stock kernel should have great battery life like the one flipz just released and with the fps fix worked in by htc it should be pretty damn good out of the box.

What is the most stable radio/baseband for the Samsung Hercules (T-989) on TMOUS?

I'm having issues with a Samsung Galaxy S2 T989 where every time I place the phone on speaker, the call becomes choppy and blanks out completely at times, sounding as if I had no signal whatsoever. This started out with the stock rom so I decided to root it. I went from ICS to JB on Cyanogenmod. I flashed a newer radio because it would otherwise not let me flash anything. I tried flashing UVMC6 and it did not improve it. I then flashed UVMB1 (the 4G Blaze radio) and it still does the same thing. Call quality over the ear piece is good, but it all goes out the window when I use speakerphone.
I checked off the box on "Noise Suppression" and it doesn't do anything at all. The sound is still choppy over speakerphone. I've searched up on the forum, and so far the threads that come up are from 2012 or early 2013, but I assume that T-Mobile has made new radio/baseband settings since then.
My question is, what is the most stable radio/baseband to use on the T989 to get rid of the speakerphone problem, or is this problem a design flaw since the speaker is near the microphone?
All help is appreciated.

Wrong forum, belongs here. I've asked mods to move your thread, sit tight until they do.

MistahBungle said:
Wrong forum, belongs here. I've asked mods to move your thread, sit tight until they do.
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I realized that after I posted it, but didn't know how to delete it.
Thanks for the request.

Thread moved
Best "anything" is based on your own personal preference/phone/area/setup. I recommend you try each for a day and see what is best for your phone and area.

There are only 2 radios that work on jelly bean...the newest T-Mobile one and the telus one. That's it.
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Also, some custom ROMs could have noise issues. You have to read through their threads to see. Or post in their threads.
Stock jelly bean should be flawless if thats what you want. Or a 4.1.2 touch wiz based ROM.
Good luck!
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I'm using CM 10.2 stable (4.3 JB) on my T989 Koodo. Getting the same speakerphone choppiness, and the same when using a bluetooth device.
Any luck finding a good stable radio package?

Joetech3000 said:
I'm using CM 10.2 stable (4.3 JB) on my T989 Koodo. Getting the same speakerphone choppiness, and the same when using a bluetooth device.
Any luck finding a good stable radio package?
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Again.. There are only 2 radios that work on anything jelly bean or higher. T-Mobile or telus's newest. No other options. So all you can do is try other ROMs.

kj2112 said:
Again.. There are only 2 radios that work on anything jelly bean or higher. T-Mobile or telus's newest. No other options. So all you can do is try other ROMs.
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Thanks for your very short, almost arrogant, half of an answer. We are here to help each other and by doing so teaching us something that someone taught you at one time.
I se that you have said in two different posts that there are only two that will work in a build that new but, in both posts you have neglected to tell which two those are. You would think that if one was tryingto be helpful instead of posting to be an ass and belittle a person who doesn't know as much as you, that you would be kind enough to have those two versions listed in the two very informative posts you spent so much time writing.

kaiserXDA said:
Thanks for your very short, almost arrogant, half of an answer. We are here to help each other and by doing so teaching us something that someone taught you at one time.
I se that you have said in two different posts that there are only two that will work in a build that new but, in both posts you have neglected to tell which two those are. You would think that if one was tryingto be helpful instead of posting to be an ass and belittle a person who doesn't know as much as you, that you would be kind enough to have those two versions listed in the two very informative posts you spent so much time writing.
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Here you go. I searched for you and/or anyone and found this.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895400
First 2 radios in the list in the opening post. Apparently the mirror links are the ones to use.
Without scolding people for not searching like many will do, or giving them attitude, I like to encourage people to search for things... without a big long lecture. I'm sorry if that didn't sit well with you.
I gave a quick and precise answer. Possibly assuming most know what the 2 radios are.... it's been a long time this way on 4.1.2 or anything above. My bad.
Take care.

I appreciate the response and the link and the apology. I wasn't looking for either of those from you though. I was merely reading different posts and replies and it amazes me how lazy or just not driven to learn and read most of the new, and not so new , members are about about searches to find what they are looking for. It does get to be time consuming for some searches and some don't even try.
On the other side of the coin,it does get old reading questions that are answered in stickies or that one sees two or three times a week being asked throughout the site.
But, as a member who isn't too far from still being a noob but, has enough time in to see both sides of the fence , there is and always has been an almost elitist, ego among members who do know more than most. It can be intimidating to ask for help because of the way they get replies. Some people k ow nothing about cell phones that come here looking for help and then get berrated for posting in the room, or not knowing what OS or kernel is installed on their device.
I just wanted to remind you that you were probably one of those guys for some time and that posting a quip that doesn't do anything to help or guide the OP to the right answer. It just adds to the stress he or she is under because their device is not working right and they don't to feel stupid for not k owing something. We all know that feeling and it sucks.
I hope he got the links and one of them works. Thanks for posting the links and what you said. We're allhere for one basic goal. To learn and teach. Let's keep to that course on the ship were sailing on XDA

kaiserXDA said:
I appreciate the response and the link and the apology. I wasn't looking for either of those from you though. I was merely reading different posts and replies and it amazes me how lazy or just not driven to learn and read most of the new, and not so new , members are about about searches to find what they are looking for. It does get to be time consuming for some searches and some don't even try.
On the other side of the coin,it does get old reading questions that are answered in stickies or that one sees two or three times a week being asked throughout the site.
But, as a member who isn't too far from still being a noob but, has enough time in to see both sides of the fence , there is and always has been an almost elitist, ego among members who do know more than most. It can be intimidating to ask for help because of the way they get replies. Some people k ow nothing about cell phones that come here looking for help and then get berrated for posting in the room, or not knowing what OS or kernel is installed on their device.
I just wanted to remind you that you were probably one of those guys for some time and that posting a quip that doesn't do anything to help or guide the OP to the right answer. It just adds to the stress he or she is under because their device is not working right and they don't to feel stupid for not k owing something. We all know that feeling and it sucks.
I hope he got the links and one of them works. Thanks for posting the links and what you said. We're allhere for one basic goal. To learn and teach. Let's keep to that course on the ship were sailing on XDA
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You're entitled to your opinion. Many would have found my original reply more than good enough. As many have in the past. Some maybe not. Remember tho, I don't work for XDA, I'm not paid to help anyone. I'm entitled to say or not say whatever I'd like. (Within XDA rules of course) As are you.
I'm sorry my original reply didn't contain enough info for you personally.....
But some of your accusations are rather insulting.... You don't get a green name on XDA being the type of person you have accused me of being. Yes many around are exactly like you describe..... I am not.
And I'm not here to take part in arguments either.
So let's agree to disagree. And leave it at that.
And keep in mind, blasting people for not helping "enough" or in the way you hoped for will probably get even less help and just more arguments.
Anyway, take care.