[Q] app2sd and updating apps in market - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys.
is there a fix so that I can update my apps through the market after they've been moved with app2sd?
it seems backwards to have to move the apps back to the phone, update, then move back to the sd card...not to mention very time consuming with the amount of apps i have.
i love the idea behind app2sd but a couple things need to be addressed, starting with the above. it would also be nice to have a "move all" batch operation thing where i dont have to click to move to sd for every single app!
im willing to donate to see some improvements in the app. anyone know the developer?
or is there an alternative app that addresses these issues?
thanks

SDmove batch moves... My files all updated no problem and you just move them back to sd when they are done! Titanium Backup is the same thing!

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[Q] Any uses for /system folder? (Rooted Phone)

I've a strange question that might or might belong in the development thread, but figured since it's a question, I'll try here first.
I'm using a Stock DeOxed Rooted Rom on my EVO.
I recently installed a few more apps and saw this pesky little warning about low on space.
When I went into my "SystemPanel" app to see how much space was left exactly and noticed that my /data folder only had around 30megs out of it's 428M available.
Ok.. time to delete some apps I thought, but then I noticed that my /system folder (Where I presume pre-installed apps live) had almost 1/3 of it's space still available (115 out of 350megs available).
So I'm wondering.....
Is there some method that I can use to install Apps directly to this folder instead of the standard /data that apps appear to go to when installed?
Is it as simple as moving the APK file with Root Explorer, or are there some under the hood items in apps that prevent this sort of thing?
I've a few rather large apps that I cannot move to the SD card due to widget problems and the like but would be perfect for the system folder if I can find a way to move them there easily.
Thoughts?
DroidGnome said:
I've a strange question that might or might belong in the development thread, but figured since it's a question, I'll try here first.
I'm using a Stock DeOxed Rooted Rom on my EVO.
I recently installed a few more apps and saw this pesky little warning about low on space.
When I went into my "SystemPanel" app to see how much space was left exactly and noticed that my /data folder only had around 30megs out of it's 428M available.
Ok.. time to delete some apps I thought, but then I noticed that my /system folder (Where I presume pre-installed apps live) had almost 1/3 of it's space still available (115 out of 350megs available).
So I'm wondering.....
Is there some method that I can use to install Apps directly to this folder instead of the standard /data that apps appear to go to when installed?
Is it as simple as moving the APK file with Root Explorer, or are there some under the hood items in apps that prevent this sort of thing?
I've a few rather large apps that I cannot move to the SD card due to widget problems and the like but would be perfect for the system folder if I can find a way to move them there easily.
Thoughts?
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/system/app is where system apps are kept. If I remember correctly, any app can be installed into there, but you have to do through flashing an update.zip if I'm remembering properly. You may be able to take the apk that's in /data/app for the app you want to move and move it to /system/app, but I'm not sure if that will work properly or not. Someone who cooks ROMs might know more.
Also, you can partition your sd card and use true apps2sd with most ROMs. Its a little bit of work and will shorten the life of your card, but that gives you a lot more room if you need it.
I don't know that there's a way to move user apps to system. It's very possible there is a way, I've just never seen any posts about it. Apps 2 SD is usually the way to go.
ps. 30 megs?!?! Geez, how many apps do you have?
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Easy peasy
First, use a true apk backup tool to backup e apk files you want to move. Titanium backup will NOT work because it compresses and distorts, and we need true apk files. I recommend file manager by adao team. Just go to applications, check what you want, and hit backup. Next, get the apk files on your computer by mounting sd and copying files from backups folder. You will lose all app data, but what can you do? Next, adb push the files to system app folder while in recovery mode (just say so if you don't know how to do this and i will tell you) and reboot. Done. Tell me if it works well.
By the way, 30 megs???
Doesn't froyo install to the sdcard if you tell it to?
I thought a2sd was obsolete
You can put apps there after changing the folder's permissions but I wouldn't recommend it. Just not a good idea to put regular apps there.
Just install them to your SD card instead
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go into the android app manager and go through all your programs and click on move to sd card...
they will all still occupy some space on your nand, but not nearly as much.
Thanks for the advice, I thought it might not be as easy as moving them, oh well, just seems a shame for there to be over 100 megs I cannot do anything with.
I already had moved all I could to the SD card prior to posting this, but thanks for that advice as well, I'm sure others forget they can do that with Froyo.
As for the 30 megs I had left.. we'll it's back up to about 70 free which should be plenty for a while. (Remember we only have about 420 to start with).
Some of the big ones which could not be moved to the SD card are:
Swype (Deleted, took over 17megs)
TouchDown (12 megs.. must keep for tasks sync sadly)
Google Maps update (7.6 megs)
Documents to go (8megs)
A few various games that cannot yet be moved to the SD card at around 5megs each..
The rest are just lots of little apps.. I'm sort of an app junkie You should have seen my old Palm Centro... it was amazing!
According to Titanium, I currently have 194 'User apps', though I think a few are simply widgets, icon packs and the like.

[Q] Removing stock apps to save space?

I noticed some threads for different phones with regard to this but didn't see an answer for the EVO so I'll ask here.
I would like more space on my phone as I'm tired of seeing the little low space hard drive icon. I've already moved all the apps to SD via app2SD. I was thinking of installing the latest rooted stock Sprint ROM (3.70.651.1) and then deleting the stock apps that I do not use but I have read elsewhere that this will, in fact, not free up any more space for applications. Is this true?
If so, can I get a recommendation for the "most stock" ROM that's stripped of the Sprint added apps. If it has some ubiquitous and useful add-ons than that is OK
Thanks!
There's a couple of ROMs in the Dev section that are optimized for speed, and I'd recommend those. A lot of them have them already removed, but you can remove the ones that aren't
Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.
Wayno-san said:
Thanks for the response... I apologize if I didn't state my question correctly. I understand that I can remove the apps that I want if I'm rooted, what I'm not sure about is if that space will be made available for other applications when I do remove the programs (in ROM) that I do not want.
Hope that clarifies the question.
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A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.
leenypost said:
A small amount of space will be freed. If you move Dalvik Cache to the Cache partition this will free up a lot more space than removing apps.
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That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?
Wayno-san said:
That sounds intriguing... can you point me to a "how-to" link or someplace where I can learn more about how to do this?
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Search on XDA for "move dalvik to cache". There should be a zip file you can download that will do it for you.
Thanks again for the info. I did as you suggested and now have 266 MB left where before I had less than 50. Using ap2sd with Azrael ROM and do far have not run into any issues. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Note, however, that most of the stock apps are in your system partition. The free space you care about for installing apps is in the data partition. So removing them doesn't free up the space you care about. Even on ROMs that have removed them, I'm not sure if they actually do (or can) resize the partitions to give you the space where it counts (/data).
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.
bkrodgers said:
You can, however, move apps to the system partition if you want. I've done this with some of the updates to stock apps -- GMail, Qik, and Flash, for example. That's freed some space up.
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This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.
Wayno-san said:
This sounds like it is worthwhile to learn how to do. Is there a thread or program that you could point me to for some guidance on how to do this?
I've also read that ap2sd can move programs that have not yet been modified to enable the regular android 2.2 "move to SD" function to work; but after flashing that app and using it to move the Dalvik cache I do see any obvious front-end for it.
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Basically you just move the APK file from /data/app to /system/app using ES File Explorer (need to enable root mode in prefs) or Root Explorer. Or you can do it with adb or even terminal emulator on the phone if you prefer. I think Titanium Backup Pro (the paid version) has an ability to do this too. You also want to look in /system/app and see if there's an older version under some other name that should be deleted. Titanium Pro may handle this part for you automatically as well. I haven't bought it yet, so I'm not sure (though I plan to, the free version is great and the paid version adds some nice things). I think you can still get updates from the market after you've done this, but the update will go to /data/app. You'd need to move it and delete the prior version again after receiving such an update.
I haven't enabled a2sd yet. My understanding is that it's not so much something you need a front end for. Once you set it up, that's just where your apps go. You don't move your apps to the sd card manually. I could be wrong. I used whatever form of a2sd was available for XDAndroid on my old Touch, but that's been a little while and the DarkStar A2SD that people use might be a little different than that method. I haven't done it at all yet on the evo.
Thank you sir, that's very good info and I'll give it a shot.

Loss of Apps (And everything!)

Hi guys,
Not had to post much since I've got the Desire since everything has worked fine on it!
However today it appears to have had a hiccup and wiped my SD card! 99% of my pictures are lost (it's saved a few for some reason) and of course all of the apps I had installed on the SD Card.
Android is picking up that the apps should be on there as they appear on my installation list and on my Marketplace list.
Is there an easy way to re download them? The market place thinks that the apps are still installed. I know that APPBRAIN has something like this, but I haven't sync'd for ages with it as I have really been using the market place.
Would appreciate any help that you can give me.
Thanks in advance.
Uninstall, reinstall. I guess that would work. You could use Appbrain but I don't use it because it is a pain to use. Just next time, don't format your SD card to save you the trouble.
try to clear the app-cache and app-data (!) of the market application.

any way 2 move app 2 sd [Q]

ive recently installed the ics 4.0.4 to my arc s but its driving me crazy i cant move the apps to the sd card my phone is rooted allright but link2sd doesn't work any idea on what should i do
Links2sd is the only way to move apps to the sd card that can't be moved there by apps2sd.
Just out of interest, have you followed the guide on xperia blog for links2sd? Worked perfectly for me.
The format program has updated a bit but is still easy to use....
EDIT: The link http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/
thanks dude ive fixed the problem some how i dont know exactly but ive kept missing with super user until some how it started working again
but this time it's even stronger than before it can move any app no matter the circumstances even the system apps r moved so i to get a little bit cautious with it now
No worries, don't worry if you move a system app. It will still work as long as you've got the SD card it. Trust me, I've done it by accident before
As a note, it won't let you move apk's from the system/vendor directory. But it does say that it can be moved, so don't worry that something's gone wrong. It hasn't.
thanks man i hope that what u say is wright
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thanks man i hope that what u say is wright
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Glad I could help. BTW i don't recommend moving system apps to the SD as it could mess other apps up. But if you do there is an unlink button.....
EDIT: If you do delete some files, XperienceD has made a backup of everything http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1141898
I'm using the Link2SD and Titanium BackUp to freeze / defreeze, uninstall / restore, link / unlink the system / user apps around /system/app, /data/app, SD or sd-ext area....

can i delete apps from stock rom to save space?

i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.
vrgolin said:
i guys, i have a Stock Room GN2 GT-N7100-Ver. 4.1.2-Ver. Base Band N7100ublh2. is ROOTED, and i install the titanium backup app. and a i realized that from this app. i cant delete apps from the play store (guess more than one kno this:silly, so i want to know , if i can delete apps or packages fron my stock room if so, what apps or packages can i delete from the stock rom with out having problems with the divice?
thanks in advance for ur support.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32151346&postcount=1
yes read above thread for which application is safe to remove, but as per title of thread
if you are doing this to make space then note, these applications stores in System ROM and making free space on system ROM, you can not use that space to replace other user application.
many ppl removing this (bloatware) to enhance performance by preventing them to run in background, though it is also debate whether really how much this help. b''coz android itself have some function to keep process running in background to recall it fast. so if you remove bloatware, that will be replaced by other application till android feel RAM if full, and same time android will autokill background process to make more free space available.
Since your device is root, use Directory Bind to put big data from internal to SD. For instance, i use it for Wild Blood, saving up to 2Gb of internal space. The game take only a longer time to launch.
Instead of deleting apps and risking seeing my device brick, i use the Android 4.1 freeze option, i think it's safer to use it, you can't freeze needed system apps.
Deleting apps is not as useful as doing it with other phones since there is around 780Mb of free system space. To free internal memory, with Titanium you can move apps from internal to system.
If you use Instagram a lot, move Instagram pictures from /storage/sdcard0/Pictures to sd card. Setup the camera to write to SD card.
Ofcourse you can use this space? What prevents you from making regular user apps to system apps?
I would suggest freezing apps first with Titanium, then after several days, if nothing happens, you can remove them. I used to do this all the time on my DHD and do it for a few apps on my N7.

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