Hi,
I found this:
chart
Short explanation for non german reader:
max brightness
iphone 4: 486 cd/m²
SGS: 311 cd/m²
Nexus 1: 217 cd/m²
min brightness
iphone 4: 3 cd/m²
Nexus 1: 24 cd/m²
SGS: 84 cd/m²
As you can see, the screen brightness is still very very high, even if you set it to the lowest value.
So i took a look into the settings.db and saw, that the value for screen_brightness was 30, not 0. (I had set the brightness to the lowest possible before).
Maybe the Samsung preferences don't let you set the lowest available brightness?
I set the value to 0, but I'm not sure the brightness changed. =/
Someone else wanna try this and measure if the brightness really decreases?
Could save some battery...
Nice one, because of the technology we generally use less power than iPhone 4 for display HOWEVER if you display a lot of whites the AMOLED screen has the *POTENTIAL* (note: potential) to use 30% more power than the iPhone 4's H-IPS Backlit LCD.
So, another power saver tip is to use dark backgrounds as white/light ones use a lot more display power. This is a side effect of the AMOLED technology.
This is probably the biggest quibble I've with this phone right now, so I was glad to find this post from supercurio's (creater of Voodoo) twitter: "Wow, minimum brightness on #GalaxyS can be tweaked to extremely low levels !"
I hope he'll share these findings with us soon.
Its pissing me off sooo much. Like at night even at min brightness its too bright, browsing market blinds me. Can't wait for supercurio's thing, he said he got the profiles figured out.
For now all i know is 18 is the lowest u can go, anything below just completely turns the backlight off.
You guys tried dimmer from market? Goes to 10.
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I simply pay more attention to my brightness now and control it myself. It adds to the to do list BUT I have gained about 30% battery life per day by doing it.
I find unless I'm in the sun there is no need to go beyond 38%.
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What's that do? It's on the display menu. Turned it off and didn't noticed a diff.
Was playing with a Nexus S at Sprint. Picked it up and it had system updates waiting...cool. Comparing everything side by side... very similiar performance to epic: screen rotation, sig strength, data speed.
Nexus display seemed a little "crisper" and for the first time in a while, I noticed the bluish tint on my display....
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It dulls the white when it thinks it should. Turn it off, it only waste battery life from polling; Just like auto screen brightness, its BS unless you go in and out of dark/bright areas all the time, it polls about every 1 or 2 seconds, what a waste, just put it on 50%, I've seen the best battery results from this. The voltage used at 50% when scaled to 100% is more then when scaled from lowest brightness to 50%, in short 50% uses the least amount of power compared to lowest and highest setting, just trust me...
Im getting tired of changing this...
ecooce said:
voltage used at 50% when scaled to 100% is more then when scaled from lowest brightness to 50%, in short 50% uses the least amount of power compared to lowest and highest setting, just trust me...
^^ This I find difficult to believe. The greater the brightness the more power is used, so if the lowest brightness setting remains static I doubt it uses more power than 50% setting. If anything, the opposite is true.
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ecooce said:
It dulls the white when it thinks it should. Turn it off, it only waste battery life from polling; Just like auto screen brightness, its BS unless you go in and out of dark/bright areas all the time, it polls about every 1 or 2 seconds, what a waste, just put it on 50%, I've seen the best battery results from this. The voltage used at 50% when scaled to 100% is more then when scaled from lowest brightness to 50%, in short 50% uses the least amount of power compared to lowest and highest setting, just trust me...
Im getting tired of changing this...
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You're talking about the automatic brightness setting.. he means powersave mode.. which I have no idea what it is..
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ecooce said:
voltage used at 50% when scaled to 100% is more then when scaled from lowest brightness to 50%, in short 50% uses the least amount of power compared to lowest and highest setting, just trust me...
^^ This I find difficult to believe. The greater the brightness the more power is used, so if the lowest brightness setting remains static I doubt it uses more power than 50% setting. If anything, the opposite is true.
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Ok here is what I mean, say at 0% on the slider is .9v , 50% is 1.1v, and 100% is 1.5v, 50% would be the best of both worlds, you can stillsee the screen and you save more compared to 0% - 50%, then 50% - 100%, its not that hard to understand...
And Chris, the power saving mode adjust white level (not brightness) when veiwing a bright page, or scene or pic...
Im getting tired of changing this...
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ecooce said:
dohturdima said:
ecooce said:
voltage used at 50% when scaled to 100% is more then when scaled from lowest brightness to 50%, in short 50% uses the least amount of power compared to lowest and highest setting, just trust me...
Ok here is what I mean, say at 0% on the slider is .9v , 50% is 1.1v, and 100% is 1.5v, 50% would be the best of both worlds, you can stillsee the screen and you save more compared to 0% - 50%, then 50% - 100%, its not that hard to understand...
And Chris, the power saving mode adjust white level (not brightness) when veiwing a bright page, or scene or pic...
Im getting tired of changing this...
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So, simply put, turn off Power saving mode, and set the brigness to ~50 percent, instead of all the way down or up?
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I think the lowest brightness is too bright and want something slightly lower. The brighter end of the phone is too bright and I end up wasting a lot of my brightness slider doing nothing. I want the highest preset to be pretty low too but settings presets requires a lot of playing around. I was wondering in the above situation what are some good presets for the following values that other SG3 users have set?
25%
40%
55%
70%
85%
I know at night my dimness is set to 48.6% which should be my 25%. How would I calculate the rest based on that, especially the upper limit?
Hi guys.....What display setting you like in our ZF2
increasing saturation little bit in customisation mode seems good in phone our phones.....
Been using Vivid since day 1, havent really messed with those settings yet.
Im using reading mode at lowest settings...since zenfone 2 has highest screen battery consumption on screen panels when at use...base on other forums i saw...i think it would lessen up the battery drainage a bit...and i block the notification of spendid too.
I also use reading mode. And I manually set brightness to 70%. If I am outside for any extended period, I will switch to vivid and 100%.
I use vivid but with the colour temp cold for whiter whites.
I use balance mode and reading mode in the evening.
Kept it on balance and never touched it.
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I just upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 on my XL 2 over the weekend. I am stock rooted.
Is it just me or is the overall display brightness much less on Pie than it was on Oreo? In the same daytime environment, I feel like Pie needs to be around 70% brightness whereas on Oreo, I feel like the display was set on about 35%. I rarely had Oreo brightness above 50%. Now with Pie, I feel like I can barely see the screen when it's under 50%.
On Oreo, my display was set to Saturated and of course, white theme since that's all we had.
On Pie, I used the same settings and it looks much dimmer. I adjusted display to Boosted and have toogled back and forth between light and dark themes and I don't notice any difference with how much dimmer the overall display feels.
The display can still get just as bright. They've just changed the way the values are displayed from the slider is all.
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I just upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0 on my XL 2 over the weekend. I am stock rooted.
Is it just me or is the overall display brightness much less on Pie than it was on Oreo? In the same daytime environment, I feel like Pie needs to be around 70% brightness whereas on Oreo, I feel like the display was set on about 35%. I rarely had Oreo brightness above 50%. Now with Pie, I feel like I can barely see the screen when it's under 50%.
On Oreo, my display was set to Saturated and of course, white theme since that's all we had.
On Pie, I used the same settings and it looks much dimmer. I adjusted display to Boosted and have toogled back and forth between light and dark themes and I don't notice any difference with how much dimmer the overall display feels.
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Google changed the algorithm on the brightness slider. Therefore, 70% is the new 30% So, no, it's not you. Another brilliant improvement for the sake of supposed progress! ?
Badger50 said:
Google changed the algorithm on the brightness slider. Therefore, 70% is the new 30% So, no, it's not you. Another brilliant improvement for the sake of supposed progress! ?
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Lol, not sure what they're Smoken at Google headquarters...
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Lol, not sure what they're Smoken at Google headquarters...
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Probably hanging out with this guy! ???
I agree with everyone else. 100% on 9 is still as bright as 100% was on 8.1 but 50% on 9 is NOT what 50% was on 8.1, no doubt about it. On 8x I usually kept my brightness around 65%... now on 9, to get something similar I am around 70-75%... If the same energy is being used to illuminate the display at the different values, batt life should remain about the same... But WHY?
Why change what 50% was on 8 to be different on 9? Isn't HALF the available illumination HALF the available illumination regardless of the OS version? What is the effect, or end game Google was looking for with this?
The max brightness is the same. The difference is the slider is no using a logarithmic algorithm instead of the old linear algorithm.
Here is the explanation of why it was done:
The first noteworthy feature is a changed brightness slider behavior: It now changes the brightness logarithmically instead of linearly. Before this preview when it was linear, about 90% of the brightness was controlled by the lower 20% of the left of the slider. The old 50% brightness was almost identical to 100% max brightness, and the old 5% brightness was significantly brighter than 0% brightness. Now, the change in perceptual brightness is more uniform as you increase or decrease the slider.
Exactly. 50% before was definitely not 50% nits output for the screen which, with a rated max 403 by anandtech, would be only 201.5 nits. And that was before the November update that lowered the max by 50 nits.
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The max brightness is the same. The difference is the slider is no using a logarithmic algorithm instead of the old linear algorithm.
Here is the explanation of why it was done:
The first noteworthy feature is a changed brightness slider behavior: It now changes the brightness logarithmically instead of linearly. Before this preview when it was linear, about 90% of the brightness was controlled by the lower 20% of the left of the slider. The old 50% brightness was almost identical to 100% max brightness, and the old 5% brightness was significantly brighter than 0% brightness. Now, the change in perceptual brightness is more uniform as you increase or decrease the slider.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Exactly. 50% before was definitely not 50% nits output for the screen which, with a rated max 403 by anandtech, would be only 201.5 nits. And that was before the November update that lowered the max by 50 nits.
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Doesn't really bother me. My normal brightness is now just like 60% instead of around 20%. Not sure why some freaked out about it.
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Lol, not sure what they're Smoken at Google headquarters...
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The same shìt as the retards who designed the P3XL.
Anyone else think the brightness is not very bright? I have turned auto brightness of but slider is on around 75 to 80% in normal conditions?
Seems fine to me. Depends entirely on what you are comparing it to, though.
With the brightness dialed all the way up, it looks either brighter or dimmer than my P2XL depending on the angle, so...
I have come from iphone x and (work phone) huawei p20 pro.
Right way up or 80% is fine but say half way 50% is loads lower than most other phones
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Anyone else think the brightness is not very bright? I have turned auto brightness of but slider is on around 75 to 80% in normal conditions?
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The display could be brighter, I feel 100% should have been what 90% would be. 50 and below is too dark to be used at all imo.
If it just flat doesn't get bright enough for you you're kinda screwed. If you're wondering about auto brightness you gotta keep on cranking it up for a week or so before it starts giving in and giving you what you asked for; at least this was the case with my 3 XL. Seems to be the case here, mine is still slowly but surely getting brighter as I keep on dutifully upping it to the desired setting in various conditions. It worked very well before, the best I've used so far and I'm hoping the same will go on here.
The auto-brightness is supposed to be fairly intelligent BTW: As an example it's supposed to recognize the middle of the night and that your sleeping and turn the brightness down more with the same brightness information available than it would in the early evening when it knows you're awake. As an FYI the adaptive battery feature also seemed to need some time to figure out what it wanted to do. I had my 3XL for about a week last fall and the battery situation was slowly but surely getting better every day just like the auto brightness. No idea if either would have continued to improve after I sent that one back but they both needed time, that was for sure.