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hey guys. ive been reading on here for a few days and decided to make my account cuz it looks like its the best excalibur forum ive found so far
im a mac user and i use a program called handbrake to tip my dvds to put on the s621. my question is what size am i supposed to put the movie to fit the screen right? i want decent quality is imortant but memory saving is also important since this thing doesnt take more then 2gb from my knowlidge
pierrohhh said:
im a mac user and i use a program called handbrake to tip my dvds to put on the s621. my question is what size am i supposed to put the movie to fit the screen right? i want decent quality is imortant but memory saving is also important since this thing doesnt take more then 2gb from my knowlidge
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The maximum resolution of the Excalibur/Dash/s620/s621 is 320x240, however your resolution should be a little less since Handbrake will scale your video in such a way that it maintains the aspect ratio (and doesn't stretch out your image). Set the bitrate to, at most, about 256 KbPS. And for the love of God, don't choose to use h.264. The amount of overclocking required to get the thing to decode h.264 would likely cause your device to 'splode. Use MP3 as the audio codec, don't bother with chapter markers either.
Those settings ought to do just fine for your Dash or other similar device. And if you wanted to be really cool, you'd share the preset for anyone else using Handbrake (Its home may be on the Mac, but there's a Linux version available and a Windows version planned)
what do u mean id share the preset? i just put the dvd in the macbook and then i open handbrake. i would love to help out people by making a thread about it once i have figured it all out. but i still have to test it on my phone . im getting it in 2 weeks when my upgrade is due. i just wanna get all my stuff ready to upload.
ohhh yah and im using mpeg4 and taking out the dolby 5.1 (im guessing stereo would make the file even smaller)
After a very frustrating week of trying to get feature length movies on my desire I have all but given up hope. I am able to convert and copy some movies and get them to run without the dreaded "This video cannot play" error message. Most that do play still play with out of sync sound, if they play at all. Occasionally, one plays correctly but I believe this is more an accident then a cure. I have tried several converters and every conceivable setting. I have come to the conclusion that this is a problem with the phone and most probably with the implementation of the operating system. I have an unbranded Desire that was purchased from an authorized dealer in Hong Kong. I have not attempted to root the phone or modify it in any way.
If anyone has had success at consistently putting feature length movies on their desire please post your methods. I am at the point where I believe this needs to be fixed with and update from HTC. I can only assume that the same problem exits on the Nexus One.
What types of files are you converting them into?
I myself have only put 2 episodes onto the device because most of mine are avi
and i cant be bothered to convert them, but the 2 iv tried are both .wmv and work fine.
Phil750123 said:
What types of files are you converting them into?
I myself have only put 2 episodes onto the device because most of mine are avi
and i cant be bothered to convert them, but the 2 iv tried are both .wmv and work fine.
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I have tried several converters designed for Nexus One or Desire. They all seem to want to convert to mpeg4. Some of the converters show that they are using an h264 codec. I have tested the converted files on my pc using Media Player Classic then if they run I copy and paste to the phone directory. A few actually work as planned. Most do not. I am converting avi, xvid and divix files that I have downloaded. They work fine on my Windows 7 computer using just about any video player (I have several).
The fact that an occasional feature film converts and works suggests to me that the HTC operating system is buggy. I would love to be proven wrong on this.
Here is a follow-up to my efforts. I actually purchased three converters and also tried some free ones. The converter called Any video converter Professional seems to have the best success rate. I have been using the setup on most of these with profiles for the Nexus One because the Desire is identical (as far as I know) in the video sense. Most of these converters have not yet offered updates to include a profile labeled Desire (but a few have and they are the worst).
I have spent many hours trying to get this to work consistently because I travel a lot and intended to use the phone for videos. I have been able to get as many as two working feature films onto my 16gb Kingston sd card, but adding even one more causes corruption of the entire card. That spells operating system problems to me. I also tried this with the original 4gb sd card with the exact same results. Anyone with consistent success at this please post your methods.
I just put movie 2012 on my phone with sound.. successfully.... MP4 format works great.. I use DVDFAB works great.. i have used it for many years burning movies, and has always worked great for iphone,wm phone and BB now Desire as well.. check it out.. you get a 30day trial then have to buy get lifetime upgrades..
www.dvdfab.com
I use HandBrake, a freeware, to convert my DVDs and video files, it works great
but remember to set the Video Codec to H.264(x264), an opensource codec which works great on Android
also the Target Size should be less than 2GB as Android doesn't play file bigger than 2GB
http://handbrake.fr/
Good luck!
Putting one feature length film on the sd card often works. It is the act of adding more than one (and always more than two) that causes the problems. When I add the second or third movie I get videos that won't play or corruption of the entire card. I have tried putting them in the same folder and also tried putting them in the root of the card. I started thinking that it was a size limit in the operating system? So to nail this, we would need to successfully put three or more feature length films on the sd card so that they work. I have a 16gb card installed so this is not a memory problem.
ok, I placed two movies on my Desire, Star Trek and Avatar, using resolution 640x???
and they worked. So I think you should give Handbrake a try...
but I don't know why the files are corrupting your card, is your card faulty? I'm just guessing
After rather exhaustive experimentation I found the solution to this problem. It has to do with the bps rate. Most conversions programs default to 1200 or 1500bps for their conversion. I know cause I tried most of them. When I set the bps rate to 768 using Any Video Converter Pro the problem is solved. Odd thing is that the phone shows the resulting rate at 888bps for every video I convert at 768bps. No matter, it works. I did try Handbrake but found it to be way too slow. I am using an i7 processor with Windows 7 and I want to be able to use all the available threads for fast conversion. Any Video Converter Pro has an option for that and it works using all 8 threads. This also seems to resolve the video/sound sync problem that I was experiencing with some conversions. Must be a limit with the Android operating system.
I use iLove converter.... the iPhone profile works perfectly!
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I use iLove converter.... the iPhone profile works perfectly!
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Great but the iphone is 320 x 480 and the desire is 480 X 800 ... do you see what I'm getting at?
I'm gonna wait for a good program with a Desire/Nexus1 optimised preset
You may give the Miro Video Converter a try too.. It has a Nexus One preset which does the trick nicely.
http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
Earlier I had this issue with the sound being of low quality (too low a bitrate), but the latest version seems to have fixed this.
I haven't tried feature length but I use handbrake to convert tv eps - edited the iphone profile so that width is set to 800 and height is blank to keep files to the right resolution for the screen (although check your source files, if they are less than 800px width there's no point upscaling them here). I usually then set the target size to 350mb for a tv episode. This gives me decent quality and works well.
For playback I'm using mvideoplayer it's great
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Great but the iphone is 320 x 480 and the desire is 480 X 800 ... do you see what I'm getting at?
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All my video is encoded at 320x480 using Handbrakes iPhone profile so that it can be used on my wifes iPod Touch as well as my Desire. Despite the fact that it doesn't use the extra resolution of the Desire, it looks perfectly fine on a small screen using Meridian for playback.
Regards,
Dave
manny calavera said:
You may give the Miro Video Converter a try too.. It has a Nexus One preset which does the trick nicely.
Earlier I had this issue with the sound being of low quality (too low a bitrate), but the latest version seems to have fixed this.
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It's got a Desire preset too!
Best thing to use in my experience is winavi to 3gp/mp4 convertor. It converts in no time at all, i tend to convert to 3gp as they take up the least amount of space but quality of playback/sound is still excellent.
I use the aplayer app to play the 3gp file.
Found this handbrake tutorial with settings tweaked for the Nexus One: http: //thegreencodeblog.com/2010/04/11/how-to-get-movies-on-your-android-device/
Haven't received my Desire yet but tried encoding a few movies. Took about 20 minutes for a 2 hour movie on my quad core PC.
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It's got a Desire preset too!
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I downloaded the Miro Video Converter from their site today. I found no Desire setting only Nexus One. I converted one xvid video it resulted in the wrong aspect and gave the dreaded "This Video cannot play" message. Bps rate was also too high and there is no way to change settings on that player. If there is a newer version I cannot find it on their site: http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
Any Video Player Pro with a bps setting at 768 and set for Nexus One is still the only converter I find consistently working.
Am I the only one who uses the app yxflash? I just copy the AVI files from my computer to my phone, no converting or anything, and it works like a charm.
http://www.mobilesoft.kr/android.html
10$, and believe me it is worth every penny
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I downloaded the Miro Video Converter from their site today. I found no Desire setting only Nexus One. I converted one xvid video it resulted in the wrong aspect and gave the dreaded "This Video cannot play" message. Bps rate was also too high and there is no way to change settings on that player. If there is a newer version I cannot find it on their site: http://www.mirovideoconverter.com/
Any Video Player Pro with a bps setting at 768 and set for Nexus One is still the only converter I find consistently working.
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Strange, Miro consistently works for me.
I'm looking for a good converter which converts .avi to .mp4. I was using this one for my Touch Diamond 2 but I think the bitrate and stuff could be higher now when I got a Desire with better specs.
I used this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use Format Factory, it does a pretty good job and is free.
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Look at Xilisoft software. Not free but good for pretty much any video/audio convrrsion.
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I have compared different converters and I recommend Convert-tune to download and convert video and audio easily.
It converts music and movies, and also burn files on CDs. The converter is
easy to install and use.
when using Xilisoft program i had many audio/video , synchronization problems ...
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I'm looking for a good converter which converts .avi to .mp4. I was using this one for my Touch Diamond 2 but I think the bitrate and stuff could be higher now when I got a Desire with better specs.
I used this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Stick with that converter. It's awesome and there is no point in increasing the bitrate because the screen resolution and dimensions are the same. Increasing the bitrate will not show higher quality pictures.
AVS Video converter 6 is hands down the best converter i have used. Its not free, but its a good investment because it pretty much converts anything you throw at it. Even .mkv.
I use Handbrake on the Mac, think there is a PC version as well, works great.
+1 for Handbrake
You can pretty much just use the iPhone preset. You might need a laptop with some horsepower but it's worth using the h264 codec to reduce file size
http://handbrake.fr/
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You could just use RockPlayerBase to play the AVI instead of waiting for it to encode?
Tried using handbrake but neither Rock or the native player will recognise the m4v or mp4 file - any suggestions?
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Tried using handbrake but neither Rock or the native player will recognise the m4v or mp4 file - any suggestions?
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Why would you wanna use RockPlayer to watch .mp4? Just don't encode the videos.. leave them .avi or whatever, RockPlayer will play it. If you have .mp4 from beginning just use the inbuilt player.
Because I'm trying to save space and cram as many in to the memory card as I can - it's for a 6 week holiday so I want to take as much as I can. 700MB / file is un-necessarily large for a phone?
Well, I got a 32GB SD card right now and that's alooooot of movies.. I don't know what you got but converting to mp4 isn't saving so much space.
I thought a 700MB filecould be halved quite easily without any noticeable loss in quality, perhaps not? I want to take about 30 files with us, so a 16GB card or two won't be enough. We'd need 20 - 25GB of micro SD storage! With that much to carry around for an extended holiday, any saving of space would be substantial. The native player does seem to play the .avi files the files are currently stored in, however it seems a waste to keep them in their current size for such a small screen?
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I thought a 700MB filecould be halved quite easily without any noticeable loss in quality, perhaps not?
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Impossible unless of course the "video" happens to be a plain black image
sunny_mm said:
If you want to convert AVI files to MP4, you can go to try Kigo video converter free for Mac.
Kigo Video Converter for Mac supports converting all popular video formats including flv, MPEG1, MPEG2, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, MOV, AVI, M2TS, MPEG TS/TP (for HD Video), M4V, etc with perfect output quality and high conversion speed for Mac OS X users. You can also extract audio from videos.
The free video converter offers various powerful functions to edit your video files, such as trimming movies into segments, merging files to single file, cropping video size, setting video effects, and even adding watermark onto your movies.
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I know you want to get 10 posts, but try posting in newer threads, instead of resurrecting 3 year old ones.
Get mx player and play a avi movie and it starts laggings so I change the codec at top right corner to sw and the video was playing perfectly no lag.
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Having owned an HD2 for 9 months and struggling to type on it, I decided to try the Touch Pro2 and bought a nice example on eBay. In terms of usability as a phone I find it way better that the HD2, the acoustics and volume are great, it’s comfortable to hold, and finally I can type properly. I also bought this phone for the TV-out that the HD2 lacks. However, the video playback is terrible!
I have been through the forums here, tried all the tweaks and fixes, tried every setting in TCPMP/Core, tried disabling Sense (which makes no “sense”) but still videos which play fine on the HD2 are barely playing at all on the TP2 - jerky, low frame rate. I don’t want to have to re-encode everything; I download DIVX TV episodes, around 350MB each, and just play them directly on the HD2. I realise the HD2 has a much faster processor, but I’m sure my old Diamond played these videos just fine too.
I have tried the latest stock HTC (unbranded) ROM that the phone came with, with Core Player, and also tried the latest Energy ROM with the built in TCPMP – no difference. All I see on the forums is that it’s a known problem with the TP2 and WM6.5. But I can’t believe that all the loyal TP2 users on this forum are just happy to accept the virtual lack of video playback capability on a phone like this.
Is there a fix, or am I going to have to put this great phone back on eBay and continue my quest for the perfect phone?
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i hear about this problem a lot. try converting the file format of the video to .avi or mp4.
personally i have no problem with video playback. havnt tried mkv yet but im not too hopefull on that one.
If you cant play it decend, then it's a rom problem. I use valkyre roms and I never had problems what so ever when I wanted to play a video.
So try that rom and see how it goes.
If i want to view a video on my TP2 i convert it with this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
Works like a charm
Grtz, FeareX
I spent much of yesterday trying out different DVD/video conversion software and finally settled on one that does a great job of converting files into a format that plays well on the Tilt 2/TouchPro 2. I don't know why, but it appears this phone's version of WMP doesn't like MPGs or WMVs as much as it likes 3GP files. These files (in both *.3gp and *.3g2 format) play almost flawlessly and without artifacting, something neither MPGs or WMVs do on the Tilt 2. In the process of auditioning all these various programs, the best I found was Pavtube's Blu-ray Video Converter Ultimate. Don't let the name fool you, it does much more than just Blu-ray. In fact, it can handle almost anything you throw at it and the flexibility of output choices is amazing. Not only are there templates for just about any video/audio format you'd want, but they are editable, so you can change them to your needs and then save them as custom templates. I was hesitant about the $69 list price (the trial puts a watermark in the middle of the screen), but I did some searching and found a discount coupon online and got it for only $37. I have converted all 3 Matrix movies, the Lord of the Rings trilogy and a BD of the 2nd Narnia movie. I had the choice to preserve the theatre aspect ratio or go full screen and both look stunning on the Tilt 2 and play with barely a hiccup. I have some traveling coming up and wanted to take some movies on the road. This program was well worth the money and I spent hours trying others with varying degrees of success. The one free option (Freemake) is OK, but has nowhere near the customizability and its 3GP conversions do not play properly on the Tilt 2. The WMV conversions I did had artifacting issues with fast motion and the MPGs looked horrible and laggy. I wholeheartedly recommend this program from Pavtube. Here's a link to the discount I used.
http://software-coupon-everyday.com...o-converter-ultimate-42-discount-coupon-code/
BD conversion is a real-time process (yes, you need to have a BD reader), but DVD conversions take about 25 minutes for a 2 hour movie. The one BD movie I did yielded a 900mb file and the standard DVDs yielded about 500mb files. You can get them smaller, but quality will suffer a bit. I have a 16gb card, so no worries for me.
BTW, the serial number worked on both my desktop and laptop PC installations, so I can take it with me on the go.
I don't understand why you would do all this workarounds when all you need to do is flash a decend rom?
What workarounds? If you want to transfer DVD movies to the device you have to convert them somehow, and the software I recommended makes it possible. Not everyone wants to go through the hassle of flashing ROMs. Yeah, I know it can be easy, but the trial and error of finding a ROM that suits your needs, is stable and the chore of reinstalling all your tweaks and programs is a real pain. No thanks.
Hate to say it cuz I love my TiltII but IMHO it is that hardware acceleration of the video was not implemented in the driver by HTC just like the original Tilt which was a dog for playing video files as well. I have found that the HTC video player will play H264 mp4 files that are great looking and not jumpy but it cannot be that high of throughput.
Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
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Have you looked here for a discussion about the problems:
http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619945
And try this cab/driver found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546522
I assume you've tried all the various settings within Coreplayer?
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Are you running Atom's or Neo's cab? After reading through all the related threads, seems like Neo's latest V3 cab has better performance and higher compatibility with the Tilt 2/TP2, but it's over 1mb compared to 80k. I assume this needs to be installed to system memory, not the SD card.
I installed Atom's cab and while it did speed up the box animation, I see no difference in any of my 3D games or in TF3D performance. I read where many are installing both Atom's and Neo's cabs and seeing improvement. I may try this, but I'd like to hear from others that have done so.
Have you tried overclocking your phone?
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Have you tried overclocking your phone?
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Yup. Running OCX at 710. Movies played fine even without that. 3D games are a little laggy, though. Just wondering if I need both 3D drivers to see the full benefit.
I'm wondering what is the optimal encoding specs that would work on the Desire Z?
I have the Rebuild of Evangelion 2.22 on video, but it's in 1080p and it's 6gigs in size. I'm wondering what's the best specs for me to run the video file on my desire z smoothly.
I'm looking at size, bitrate, encoder, and audio specs.
Convert to avi and install either vplayer or rockplayer. No extra bs needed with apps like that.
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I'm still in need of the resolution and bitrate. I'm probably going to be encoding the file in mp4 (h.264)
Like I said you don't need to do anything besides convert to avi. I play bluray rips of very larg size and works fine. When I first started adding videos I was asking the same question you are. Use one of those 2 players.
Or you could google your question and find other answers way faster than waiting for responses here
Why do you want to use mp4? Rockplayer and vplayer play tons more codecs. Less compression=better video/audio
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I use MP4 because it is 90% more reliable than other codecs out there and the quality to compression ratio is pretty good. I would like to be able to fit a feature length movie in the small 8gb card I have on my phone (4gigs available atm)
And i have already searched google, nothing really came up. maybe i'm using the wrong keywords, but there was nothing that mentioned resolution, bitrate, etc.
besides, watching 1080p on such a small screen doesn't make it look any better as opposed to it being watched in 720p or so since it's so small.
I've had the best results by using Handbrake and converting the video to mp4 (ffmpeg) format and resizing it to the Z's native resolution. Settings are pretty much default with around 1500kbps (could be too much depending on the source).
sounds good. I'm probably going to leave it at 720p for safety's sake, but I'll re-encode the file to 640x480 for comparison.
I find that I get better video quality results using SUPER than I do with Handbrake, I'm sure it's just a settings thing since they both use the same tools under the hood.
Was searching for a guide as well, from this article, Desire Z has been known to support h264 with baseline profile at level 3
check the link for full details and basic handbrake guide http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/converting_video_for_the_htc_desire_z.cfm