[Q] Voice calls over wifi? - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
was wondering, is there an app with which I can call a friend over wifi on his desire/android phone?
Simple app with only that function. I don't like fring or any of such type.
Thanks.

http://www.facebook.com/TiKL.TouchToTalk
The original thread with all the info is on xda if you search for tikl...
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I noticed TiKL before opening this thread, but I rejected it thinking of it as something complicated, but will give it a look now
EDIT: cannot use TiKL, I get the warning saying that my phone is programmed with an empty number, and to call my carrier to fix that before I can use TiKL... way too complicated.
Plus, it seems to be Push To Talk and I don't need that... I would like an app in which I can add my friend and he can add me, and we can call eachother over wifi if/when we're both online

There is always a sip setup: sipdroid/google voice all setup through a sip client, its a bit of a setup though, you may find some easy sip clients on the market though I havent looked lately. But thats pretty much a sure fire way to get free calls over wifi & data.
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What do you like/dislike about Google Voice?

I have already switched to G-Voice as my voice mail provider, but I was wondering what else is good about it? I love the text transcript of voice mails, but I do not know much about this program.
Why would you want to create a Google number? What are the perks?
What are some things that are not commonly known about it? Tricks? I have a feeling there are a bunch of things I do not know about it because I have not had enough time to really get into it.
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
teh roxxorz said:
Basically a standard number, you can use it to make long distance calls, at a low rate, can even send texts.
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If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
lehalter said:
If I am never anywhere near my minute allowance, there really is no benefit for me?
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Not so much, but you can use it to send texts, and long distance calls. If you go in the settings you can configure it. Also, if you sign out on that phone, you can use it on another phone and keep your messages, I find it to be nice.
First, a word of warning. When you use Google Voice to make outgoing calls, it is considered a call to a landline. So you are eating your Anytime minutes when using this. So the unlimited mobile to mobile on any carrier option does not apply. Keep that in mind. Someone on these forums ended up with a $5000 bill. lol Luckily they got it reversed.
#1 Block callers
#2 Ring all numbers you designate
#3 Calls can come through Google Chat/Gmail
#4 Can give your GV number to people you don't like.
#5 Voicemail screening. You can screen people leaving a voicemail and decide to answer as they are leaving the message or just have it go through to voicemail. Although almost all my friends just hang up and decide to just blow my phone up instead -.-
#6 Listen to your VM on any computer with internet access.
Couple of things:
1) Free text messaging through GV. You get texts in the GV app on your EVO, through google.com/voice, and you can get them through the GV app on other devices.
2) Cheap international calling.
3) One phone number for multiple phones. I have GV set up so it can ring my work phone, cellphone, SIP number, Gmail chat widget, and home phone simultaneously, or on a schedule.
4) Don't need cell service to text, call, or get voicemails. This is extremely useful if you have a WiFi-only tablet or device, such as the upcoming WiFi Xoom. Also, if I'm in an area of the building at work where there's crap service, I can just turn on WiFi, connect, and get my texts through there, and use SIP to make/receive calls.
5) Everything is saved online. Texts, voicemails, and call logs are all on google.com/voice so if I switch ROMs or whatever, I don't have to worry about saving my texts, voicemails, call log, contacts, emails, apps... You get the point.
Basically, Google Voice + Google Sync + Gingerbread/Froyo = 100% backed up to the cloud. I honestly only keep Titanium Backup on my phone for restoring apps that aren't in the Market, convenience (decrypting and unpacking some gzip'd tars is a LOT faster than downloading via 3G), and I have a few apps I'd rather not lose the data for (Google Authenticator, Angry Bids, Launcher Pro, etc.).
6) Customized voicemails (my mom was amazed when I had separate voicemail messages for her, my stepdad, the house number, my boss, etc.)
7) Call screening (Really nifty for those folks who block their phone number, 800 numbers, etc)
8) Free visual voicemail!
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
conductive said:
I got nailed using using one of the Google Voice callback free. Yes it eats minutes, but if you notice it is made by Xinlu and is not really google (same icon). This ap should be removed from the market and banned since it is not free. I have no idea how it can get 5 stars the rating on this is jacked. I have been tethering via usb and calling via ata ever since.
If you use GV via bowser it should be OK. I have not tried the real Google voice app. What is weird is that I posted a few threads on the google voice help and nevr really got a good answer. I am not sure if anybody realizes that there is a bastard GV out there.
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It is free under the following conditions:
1) You use it to call your SIP number that has unlimited free incoming calls (such as Sipgate).
2) You have unlimited calling to/from specified numbers (Such as Sprint's call-home or w/e, T-Mobile/Verizon/whatever's MyFaves, My Five, etc.
Also, from the app's description in the Market:
Google Voice Callback can be combined with Gizmo5/Sipdroid/Fring/Sipgate or other VOIP solutions to make free calls over wifi or 3G.
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Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
flying_low said:
Press 4 at any time to start recording the conversation
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Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
Perhaps you should read more closely, neh?
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Maybe you should not beleive everything you read there Gizmo.
And then what sip to sip to sip Haha ha
Better yet lets try it with 3G good one.
You ever try to sip anything there Gizmo
twiz0r said:
Is that true?
swyped from my cyanogenized and gingerbreaded EVO
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Have not used it but it's in the tips section
One thing is for sure is that you usually thank somebody and not flame them when they look out for somebody so they do not get burned. Senior members without a clue should also give thanks when a noob has to straighten them out and also apologize for being a flamer so we can get back on the question at hand
Thanks for all of this guys. I was already using it, but know about these other things is cool.
I love Google but had nothing but problems with voice....half the time or more it would say # disconnected and a host of other problems......shy away from voice in my opinion
Sent from my HERO200 running gingerbread....suck it sprint
I love everything about GV except for the lack of MMS
I think somebody thanked me but it is now gone. Thanks if you did.
Number porting
Vanity Numbers
Blacklisting .
Gizmo was awesome but it is now gone I hope it comes back.
I used many of these apps and there is a lot to go over here so send a thanks or other if you are interested. I just do not feel like adding any technical information since I got flamed. I can also tell you that I gave a thanks to the member that informed you guys about how it can eat minutes and I hope that you did the same. Personally I would stay away from the bogus market app that is not made by gogle. It used to be called GV free dial.

No plan

If I but a epic form someone and I don't get a plan is the phone still functionable like wifi and GPS and other things?
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Yes. You'll have to skip activation then switch wifi on and sign into your google account.
Yes wifi and gps will work. Gps will require 3rd party software though. Google maps won't work because you won't have data. google maps will work over wifi if your in an area where wifi is all over the place.
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Unless I can find someone that will pay decently for it, I intend to keep mine after I upgrade my contract and use it as a toy .
Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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NawtyB78 said:
Would you still be able to make calls, either through Google voice (with a google #), or through skype or some other app? This would essentially allow the phone to operate completely without a phone bill from what I understand. The only issue is being within range of wifi.
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I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.
RandomKing said:
I do this on my iTouch(the only Mac device I've ever bought ).
The simple answer is yes. Wifi powered apps can run through wifi while the phone CDMA signal is off (airplane mode?). Without getting too complicated, here's what you need:
1. Google Voice Account
2. Google Voice App (for SMS)
3. Sipgate.com Account (for Free Inbound Calls)
4. Sipdroid App registered with Sipgate account (for Calls)
5. Google Voice Callback (to Connect Free Inbound Sipgate Calls)
4-2. Acrobits Softphone has a built in GV dialer and will replace steps 4 and 5 for about $8
Free messaging and calls on a wifi only Epic. Win.
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Sweetness. Thanks for the info.
Edit: I'd 'thank' you, but I can't seem to figure out to how to do that through the xda app...
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I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!
Thx u guys
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Nice find! Not a very old app apparently... although I'm curious how it works. Google Voice doesn't have it's own Sip service, it simply connects two numbers together with your Voice # in between. You can call out from Gmail though, so maybe it's making use of that?
Either way, nice!
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Yay! Quoting myself!
Moving on! So anyhow! I figured out how this works. Gmail started allowing calls out from its chat window about 8 months ago or so. Apparently, sometime after that, calls in were also allowed, making your Gmail window a free phone! I had already given up and moved on with a Sip phone and service, which allows you to not always have the Gmail window open to use... lol. But regardless, Groove IP takes advantage of these facts, and now basically pulls in your Google Talk functionality to make and receive calls all by itself!
What this means, is that under phones settings in Google Voice, you will have to enable call forwarding to Google Talk for Groove IP to completely work. Now know this, Google Talk does not use the latest and greatest Codecs for SIP, so it may not carry as good a call quality as using the GV + SIP option, but it certainly is simpler!
And with GV + Sprint integration now live and open, you can make your backup device carry the same number and functionality as your Sprint phone!
I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?
bigdreco said:
I have recently found a app called GrooVe IP.
thats all you need to do is login to your google voice account with the app.. and it makes and receives calls thru wifi, 3G/4G..
I have used it recently when I forgot to pay my sprint bill.. and they cut my phone half way off.. I was still able to make calls using this app..
the app is like 4 dollars..
here is the link with more info on it
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
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Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)
Sorry for the delay in response, I try to have a life with my Fiancee on the weekend .
gdbassett said:
I have tried sipgate and the 'text you back' feature hasn't been working for me. Any suggestions?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'text you back'.
gdbassett said:
Does anyone know of an IOS app that does the same thing? I've got extra ipods/iphones but not android devices. (I've looked at Fring but I assume it isn't doing this and is instead encouraging you to use their paid SIP gateway.)
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Acrobits Softphone will allow you to set a SipGate, or any similar SIP account, along with Google Voice as a call out dialer. Using this method, it will essentially dial itself, you'll answer SipGate through the app, and then it will call the other person. This app is available on both IOS and Android now, and was the best setup up until Groove IP. It may still be better, due to the different manners of operation, but the all-in-one solution of Groove is clearly very nice. However, the Softphone method is the best available AIO on IOS.

For anyone wanting to use Google Voice, this is for you

This is for anyone wanting to use Google Voice as their talking system, but didn't like to because it wasn't a VoIP service. The name of the app is GrooVe IP (https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip&hl=en). Instead of calling your phone number, according to the instructions, since it's calling your google chat identity, it's free AND it works over wifi! I'm sure others, like myself, who have ****ty reception on the Incredible 2 but love the phone and want to use it like an actual phone, would love to know about this app.
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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deaffob said:
I second this. Also by using this method, you aren't using any of your minutes in your plan.
Too bad that it can't do VoIP for incoming calls& texts.
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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I'm using this for incoming calls, as well as outgoing. I have -105dbm and my calls are all choppy and often drop while I'm home. This app is different than using google voice. What happens is that everything is routed through google chat and then sent over SIP. I've pulled the back off my phone and made my phone completely lose service and then I made a call using the app and it was 100% over wifi. I then had someone call me, while the back of my phone was still off, to see if I could also receive calls over wifi and it worked. As far as texts goes, I just use the standard google voice app for texting. Too bad there isn't a way to get texts to forward to a certain number lol
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Actually, when you make a call through this app, you are indeed using voip but when someone calls you, there is no way that the app can do anything because google voice can only reroute the call to your phone number. There is no such thing as voip incoming calls with google voice
Fusion.Coil said:
How is this different from turning on the option in google voice app? I been using Gvoice since I got my phone and I have it prompt me to use it or my verizon service to call on each call. I also give the Gvoice number out as mine since it works over the data network or wifi? Can someone explain the major differences?
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This isn't about using google voice or not. It is about google voice over voip, not over your mobile provider's network. Let's say you are at a underground 5 floors below. You will not be able to make any calls with the regular GV app because the app only uses the provider's network and no, it doesn't use your provider's mobile data. What it does is it calls GV server and the server re-calls to your target. You do not see this on your phone because GV app changes the number for you but the real number it's calling is something very different. Something like this 219827419875018725101250.
Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
Right, and from my understanding, when you use just regular google voice, you're still using your minutes. I still get disconnected from calls because I have horrible reception and service out here, but using the GrooVe IP app, I'm able to pull my back off and make it say I'm completely out of service and I can make a call using the wifi.
As far as what you stated about routing it to your phone number deaf, the app tells you to deselect your phone number and to select your google chat identity which is supposed to solve the issue of it dialing through to your phone when you receive a call. It just forwards it to the google chat and the app is sort of like a mediator between google chat and your phone, and the internet recognizes it as a google chat session. At least that's the way I understood it. I'm probably completely wrong because I'm just getting this app, but I'm doing more research. I thought it went through SIP because there are options in the troubleshooting thing in the app to override the STUN server which is based off of a sipgate address.
Edit: I was just thinking of this. You said it's not working right or w/e for when incoming calls come in. Have you completely logged out of google chat online and on your phone? If you're logged into GC from anything else other than the app, it will inadvertently try to call that device. So let's say your PC is logged into GC. I call your number and the app tries to forward it to the account, but GC picks up the call before your phone can and interferes with how the app is supposed to work.
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
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Anyway, with this app, you can make calls over the internet, hence the name Voice Over Internet Protocol, voip. Also since you are using your data instead of your precious minutes, you can opt for the lower minutes plan.
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Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
Lagos3sgte said:
You CAN make and RECEIVE calls with this app. All you have to do is setup a google voice phone number. Then from the google voice website, you route all incoming calls to go to your google chat, not your cell phone number. Then call your google voice number and it will ring on your phone through grooveip.
For all you guys using this, what settings have you used with this app? I found that I get choppy or laggy voice that makes this app difficult to use. I think it has to do in part to how our phone manages wifi power and sleep. Any tips or tweaks that you guys have found to work best?
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Go into your troubleshooting and check off to always keep your screen on. If your screen turns off, it messes with the audio for some reason. As soon as I make a call, I quickly hit my power button twice so that it goes to the lockscreen so that I don't have to worry about accidentally dialing someone else or starting an app
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@ digital You were right. I didn't know that I had to check that option which it reroutes to gmail chat. I however checked both phone and Gchat so I don't know if I'd be getting both at the same time or not. :X
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lol, no problem man. I was thinking of doing that but was afraid what you were experiencing would happen to me. Glad to have helped you out buddy.
Fusion.Coil said:
Sooooo, google voice does not use wifi? I am still confused.
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The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
digitalsynner85 said:
The standard Google Voice by itself does not. What it does is just act as a go-between for your number and your GV number. Essentially all it is, is just a dummy number that people can use to call you without actually calling your actual phone number. Using this app I suggested, the number being called when someone calls your GV number is actually being caught by Google Chat and this program is the mediator between your phone and GC, thus meaning that you're using 100% data and nothing else.
Sorry for the triple post, lol. I just figured out how to use multi-quote the right way haha. I've been using these boards for almost a month now and I JUST now figured it out.
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I get it now... Thanks people.
Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Anyone know of any free alternatives?
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Currently there are none that I know of that don't involve intensive setting up, such as having multiple accounts to log into, setting up multiple forwarding numbers, etc. You can try getting the APK from apktop (google apktop groove ip 1.2.9 and it's the first link) and seeing if it works, but I'm not sure if it requires cracking to be able to use. This way is probably the simplest and 100% foolproof way. The only thing I dislike about this app is that my screen has to stay on to use this app or else I have severe issues of the sound cutting in and out, so I just press home and then my power button twice to get to the lockscreen so that i don't have any apps starting up unwanted. Personally I think it's well worth the $3.99, but then again, I've started supporting all the devs of the apps I really like. It was stated on facebook, by him, that he offers an extended refund period for those people unhappy with his app. How much longer? No idea. But it is guaranteed that you can try this app for 24 hours and if you don't like it you can always get a refund from the market.

[Q] Declining Call with Text using Google Voice

Hey guys,
I'd love to make use of the text response feature when someone calls me but there doesn't seem to be a Google Voice intent or option anywhere is there?
I heavily use my Google Voice number to the point I don't give out my cell phone number! I just tested ignoring a call with the text option and the text came from my cell phone number.
Has anyone figured out how to get it to use Google Voice? I have successfully configured texting from contacts/people and even voice actions because both had intents that popped up but nothing for the decline call feature.
Same issue here. Searched around, haven't been able to find an answer yet. I apologize if I missed something - Any help would be greatly appreciated.
This may be something I'm interested in for future use.
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Anybody?
Sorry, just trying to bump this thread. It seems ridiculous to me that Google would release a flagship Android device that doesn't allow full integration with another major product so naturally related, Google Voice - especially considering how hard they've been pushing integration with Google+. (I'd love VOIP to be activated too, but that's another can of worms...)
Plus, this seems like a pretty simple issue since GV can be made the default for SMS quite easily elsewhere in ICS (and Gingerbread, Froyo) as the OP states. Hopefully I'm just mistaken, thanks for the help!

[Q] Receive phone calls and SMS

Hello everybody,
I just got my N7 WiFi and are wondering if there is any way i could receive my phone calls and sms`es from my Xperia Z1. I always have my phone with me and its always conected to hotspot.
I use my tablet alot and it would be great if i could receive calls and sms on my tablet instead of switching device all the time.
I hope there is some app/mod for this and i appriciate all answers!
Thank you,
anyone??
@Smurflin96
for calls you can forward your number to Google Voice and use Grooveip to make the actual calls from the tablet i think the paid version has texts too
for texts you can use
1)SyncSMS(Requires internet on both)
2)TexTab(Bluetooth)
if it's WiFi only you won't be able to use any form of text/message/call service as that uses gsm and the WiFi version doesn't support that, hardware wise, there is no chip for it! It can't work.
You'd have to use something internet based like skype or viber
You could try Mighty Text (Free) or Tablet Talk ($2.99). They both pretty much work the same way but Mighty Text uses a server to relay sms and tablet talk is direct using wifi or bluetooth. With Mighty text I know you can see who's calling you but I'm not sure if you can answer the call. I know tablet talk you can if you have it set up to do so. I tried both and I ended up liking Tablet Talk more but you should give them a try.
U can text from your Google voice account if u have one. As far as calls Im not sure..
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