Hello guys, i have a question, some may call it noob some may thought it themselves. i am currently rooted and using mcr3.1 without problems at all but i don't have the apps2sd.
i want to try it and i baked a new rom from the kitchen with the a2sd+ option integrated but i don't want to mess up my current sdcard and want to use another one i have. can i do that ???
as i see it i must do the following:
1) while my CurrentCard is inserted make a nandroid from the fake-flash recovery
2) turn off the phone and insert the new card
3) put the update.zip (for fake-flash) and the baked rom onto the sd card
4) now go into recovery (fake-flash) and choose to install new rom
will this work ok ?????
in addition as i see on my SDCARD some applications like titanium backup or astro or htc mail, rom manager, wifi tether etc have some files on it into their respective folders. will i be ok if i copy-paste them after the procedure into their folders in the fat partition???? or the a2sd+ uses some other m,ethod for the apps to store their info ????
THANKS for all the help
That should be fine...just don't forget to partition the new sd card for a2sd
do i need to make it with gparted or the rom makes it by default ???
The recovery image has it all. Look!
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yeah i haven't taken a look into the recovery before...is there any update.zip that adds the a2sd+ to my current configuration ????
No because it's already part of the rom. Your sd just needs partitioning correctly.
Back up your sd card, boot into recovery. Go to partition menu and partition sd card.
Mine is swap 0, ext 512, fat remaining space. Then you can copy your sd backup back to the fat32 partition.
That's it all apps will install to sd card.
Well here is my idea. Could we possibly partition the FAT32 part of our phones into more then one partition.
Saying like we could have a few FAT32 based partition, A Primary, One for roms/patches, then etc.
That way when we format the primary, it doesn't delete the roms we could flash. So we didn't need to hook up the phone to the computer to copy roms back over.
I know Recover firmware would need to support this. But it's just a thought.
I'm not really an expert at this, but doing a full wipe and installing a new ROM doesn't wipe the contents of your SD Card. Are you saying partition the phone's internal storage? What's wrong with just storing the ROMs on your SD card?
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I'm not really an expert at this, but doing a full wipe and installing a new ROM doesn't wipe the contents of your SD Card. Are you saying partition the phone's internal storage? What's wrong with just storing the ROMs on your SD card?
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I meant like partition the SD Card into multiple partitions, So when you erase the SD:Ext and the FAT32, the ROM Partition doesn't go with it.
So example
SD:Ext - Partition 1
FAT32 - Partition 2 (Default SD Storage)
FAT32 - Partition 3 (ROM Storage, Backup Files)
So when you partition the SD Card though the Recovery it will only format Partition 1 and Partition 2, So if you left somewhere wtihout your computer and tweaking your phone, You could use partition 3 and access your ROM files and backups without going though loops for them.
What recovery are you using. I'm still not sure what you are talking about? I have no problems accessing my roms and kernels. You can do it plenty of ways and not do what you are talking about..
Use root explorer. Can transfer from download folder or if you made a certain folder on SD card for them you can copy paste them to the root directory on SD card if you use RA recovery. Clockwork you can go through every folder looking for the zip using clockwork unlike RA recovery which needs it to be in root of SD card. Your making it hard on yourself..
Why would you want to wipe fat32 and partion?
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I'm looking to install a Desire HD rom on my Desire and it requires an SD-EXT partition.I tried partitioning through Rom Manager but,even tho i have it ,it says that i don't have clockwork mod recovery installed.What should i do? is it safe to overwrite the clockworkmod recovery installation through ROM manager? And is it possible to partition the sd card directly via recovery?
Clockwork Mod doesn't have partitioning in it, you'd need to use AmonRA to partition in recovery - it's the reason why I went to AmonRA as I have a 1GB partition for the RCmixHD ROM (which is awesome btw)
Thanks for the answer.
How do i flash amonRA over clockworkmod? do i use unrevoked again?
Using ROM Manager with clockworkmod I was able to partition my sd card. I also flashed desire hd rom on my desire. The partitioning process using rom manager is a bit wierd.. my 8gb class 10 sd card partitioned without hiccups, the 2 gb class 4 card did get through
Yeah but my problem is that ROm Manager doesn't let me partition my sd card because it says that i don't have clockworkmod installed even tho i have it...
il.fof said:
Yeah but my problem is that ROm Manager doesn't let me partition my sd card because it says that i don't have clockworkmod installed even tho i have it...
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Did you root your phone with unrevoked? If so then it must work via ROM manager otherwise it wont.
The directions to work on ROM Manager are this ones:
Keep in mind that first inside ROM Manager you need to select the option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery, and after that go to the SD partition option otherwise it wont work. And also remember you need to have the PREMIUM version otherwise it might not work
Now if you want to have more than a 512 mb you can use gparted. It is a livecd which means that can work on linux, mac or windows just reboot with the cd inside and is quite straightforward to use. Hope this helps.
i had this problem and here's what i did at the top of Rom Manager, it says Flash clockworkmod recovery. select it and select HTC Desire. then go to partition SD Card and select 512MB for Desire HD Roms. and a swap file of 32mb and it would simply boot into recovery and do the job. hope this helps
Hi,
I bought a new 16Gb microsd hc card after installing the RCMixHD rom in order to give it a 2gb ext size.
Right now im using 8gb-512 ext3 goldcard.
Unfortunately when i put the 16gb in the device (after fat32 quick format)- the device doesnt load
Its HBOOT driver is recognized by windows but i cant get the device to load.
Any ideas?
Many thanks ahead.
rcmix installs part of the rom on the ext partition of sd card that is why the phone wont boot.
1. use a card reader to format your new card and copy the backup of your old card onto the new one (dont forget the rom which you wish to flash again, i suppose rcmix)
2. turn off your phone place in the new card
3. go into hboot, wipe everything and flash the rom
your rom should be working now with your new sd card
(Using this method will cause that you loose all the data that was previously on the phone, but personally i feel: New Card --> New Start and clean flash, that way you can ensure everything is working properly!)
RaymondErasmus said:
rcmix installs part of the rom on the ext partition of sd card that is why the phone wont boot.
1. use a card reader to format your new card and copy the backup of your old card onto the new one (dont forget the rom which you wish to flash again, i suppose rcmix)
2. turn off your phone place in the new card
3. go into hboot, wipe everything and flash the rom
your rom should be working now with your new sd card
(Using this method will cause that you loose all the data that was previously on the phone, but personally i feel: New Card --> New Start and clean flash, that way you can ensure everything is working properly!)
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Thanks a lot!
I have a feeling this might work
by the way- in which part should i create the ext partition?
before flashing the rom i guess?
and with which recovery could i make this partition to 2gb size?
Thanks again!
Spitniv said:
Thanks a lot!
I have a feeling this might work
by the way- in which part should i create the ext partition?
before flashing the rom i guess?
and with which recovery could i make this partition to 2gb size?
Thanks again!
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Or..
You can make a Nandroid backup with your old card inside, then partition the newcard with one Fat32 and one ext3 (for A2SD+), copy the folder "Clockworkmod" from the old card to new one, Insert new card, Goto Recovery, Nandroid restore all..
Should work.
Before doing this, make a Titanium backup too..
Spitniv said:
Thanks a lot!
I have a feeling this might work
by the way- in which part should i create the ext partition?
before flashing the rom i guess?
and with which recovery could i make this partition to 2gb size?
Thanks again!
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yes partition before you flash the rom.
And to create the ext partition with the correct size:
You can use amonra to create the ext, clockworkmod 2.1.5.2 (or something one of the newer versions can also do this) --> these work from recovery
I used gParted (a bootable cd, is very useful), you could use fdisk too! With these tools create the ext partition after the fat32 partition otherwise windows will want to format the sd card. (I guess depends on what OS you are using) --> i would use one of these 2 as you have more control over the process
I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
Mount the sdcard to Windows & run Minitool Partition Wizard. Resize the FAT32 partition & make an EXT4 partition of any size you'd like. Unmount it from from the PC & run Link2SD.
Link2SD doesn't require S-OFF for the Play.
To mount it, is it just the normal state when you plug in the usb cord to the PC? ie, mass storage mode? or do I need to unmount the sd card in settings somewhere first. Just want to make sure I get the order right.
What would a good size ext4 partition be on a 16 gb card?
Mass storage mode is fine. Doing so in CWM is probably better though since the OS isn't trying to access anything.
2~4GB should be fine.
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
ROM Manager.
I hate to be the guy that asks a lot of questions that should be obvious, but how does ROM Manager answer my above questions? I hope that doesn't come across as rude, I meant it from my ignorant standpoint. I looked up the app on Google Play, and it sounds like it is used for backing up your current ROM, loading new ones, and a couple of other ROM related features.
Fuegeaux said:
Can I use CWM if I only have root? I haven't done anything other than just root via zergrush and use titanium to backup/remove a few apps.
Also, on sort of a side note, is there any program that will sync the contents of my SD card (all of them) with a corresponding folder on my PC? I know SD cards can die on you, so I would like to perform this sync on a regular basis to try and prevent phone throwing when the SD card dies.
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If you get CWM installed, you can mount the sdcard while in recovery.
Use SyncToy to do the syncing
http://www.everything-microsoft.com...our-windows7-files-and-folders-using-synctoy/
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=15155
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
Fuegeaux said:
What's the difference between Rom Manager and CWM? Thanks again!
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ROM Manager = Android app that works with CWM. Installs CWM on phones that support it. Xperia Play isn't supported for CWM installation from the ROM Manager but the other features within it do work.
CWM = recovery image that boots when invoked via ROM Manager or at the bootloader/kernel.
Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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Ah, so I use Rom Manager to invoke CWM-like functionality, one of which is to mount SD card when the system is able to access it, right?
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No... you need to get into recovery mode to access CWM properly. The ROM Manager can reboot the phone to get into that mode.
I downloaded ROM Manager from the market. I see two options in ROM Manager that I think are what you are talking about. The first one is under Recovery->Reboot into Recovery. The second one is Utitilities->Partition SD Card. Can I just check the Parition SD Card option or do I need to Reboot into recovery first? Also, above Reboot into Recovery, there is an option which says "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery. You must have the ClockwordMod Recovery installed to flash and restory ROMs!" But you said that the Xperia Play does not support this. I assume that I don't need to do this. (but, for future reference, I can't use ROM Manager to flash ROMs, right?)
First off, do I even need minitool Partition wizard if ROM Manager will do it for me using the Partition SD card option? Will that let me do ext4 as well as FAT32 and select differing sizes?
Second, if Partition SD card will not do what I want it to do, or do it fully, then what are the steps to do? My thought is plug phone into PC. Use ROM Manager to reboot into Recovery (using ROM Manager option). Once PC detects SD card, use Minitool Partition wizard to reformat/partition SD card with FAT32 for main portion and EXT4 for seperate portion for Link2SD use.
Will EXT4 also work for the dalvik2cache tweak?
Sorry for all of the questions and thanks again for all the help!
You need to have CWM installed that's made specifically for the Play. It CAN'T be installed from the ROM Manager.
Use this app to install it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pvy.CWMinstaler
The Partition SD Card option will erase everything on the SD card & it creates a small EXT2 or EXT3 partition. I don't recommend using it.
Use the Minitool & do as I recommended earlier on...
Don't mix dalvik2cache with any sdext script... I recommend using Link2SD or mount2SD apps for utilizing the ext4 partition to move the dalvik-cache.
I will test these things out when I get home today, or maybe this weekend if I can't find free time before then.
One thing I noticed when I went to the thread mentioned in the Xperia CWM app is that in big red letters it says "Do NOT use this recovery if you are not using stock 2.3 firmware". I guess that means when ICS comes out from Sony, we won't be able to upgrade through ROM Manager, right? This also means that going from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 would be okay using this version of CWM, right?
Also, if I wanted to upgrade to a 2.3.4 build, then ROM manager is the way to go, right?
Thanks again!!
I can't use the ROM Manager with ICS until something changes. Upgrading through CWM is always possible though, just as long as you know that spamming the home key (about 10 times) at system startup will get you into it.
Yes, ROM Manager/CWM Recovery can take care of any upgrades that don't involve flashmode or fastboot mode (ftf, img, & sin files).
Thanks again for all of your help. I find myself having more questions about ROMs, but that is kinda hijacking my own thread. Plus, I don't think I am ready to flash any ROMs just yet. I don't know, it just makes me kinda nervous doing that, plus it is a big pain having to redownload all of my apps and setting things up again.
I will try and partition my SD card soon and report back with the results.
Use Titanium Backup to capture all of your settings with the apps. Quite simple to achieve.
All right, so I finally repartitioned my SD card. I had to use FAT32 for the second partition because Link2SD did not recognize the EXT4 partition. I did make the mistake of not putting it as primary, but I fixed this and it still didn't work.
It looks like all is working, but I can't seem to link the davlik cache over, though it acts like there is none. Could I clean up the davlik cache and would that make any problems? It just seems like there is still a lot of memory being used and I can't figure out where it is coming from.
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I would like to partition my SD card in order to take advantage of memory tweaks like link2SD and dalvid2cache. I have read that you can use tools like Minitool partition wizard as well as some that are installed when you root your phone. Is there any way I can partition my SD card without having to take it out of the phone? It is kind of a pain to remove covers on the play just to get to the SD card. Besides, I worry that I might break the cover.
Also, I read somewhere that link2SD required non nand-locked (or S-off) to work. Is this true? Does this even apply to the play?
btw, I am using a rooted, stock 2.3.3 R800at
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connect your sd card to computer and use minitool partition wizard to partition your card. it is so convenient and easy to operate.