The wiki ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com ) contains a tiny start of what could become a very nice FAQ. I do not have time over the next weeks to expand what's there, and appeal to any and all with some time on their hands to please see if they can add structure, or just questions and their answers. Feel free to change it until it's good, that's what wikis are for.
Nice post peter
Question for you
How would you feel if you had spent over 2 months building a wiki for the blueangel, posting the files to the ftp site, to find that they got deleted on the 16 .
Pm 2 admins, one picking up the pm but not repliying, the orher not picking up the pm.
Rebuilding the trashed ftp site, re linking the wiki links, Posting to the ftp non public thread, reading that it will happen soon, watching the ftp site getting trashed again (today) and then reading your reqest?
Ps you have a pm from me datedted 16 march, feel like picking it up?
Why this beautifull FAQ (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel) is not visible for ordinary people? I found it by accident.
But it is!
Top of screen to the right is the link wiki.xda-developers.com
On that page under HTC Device you will find Blueangel
The Blueangel Link gets you to that page
Never thought that behind these WiKi activities this FAQ is hidden - put another link under this WiKi.XDA-devloppers.com link with something like "How Blue Angel works" or "Blue Angel FAQ" or "Knowledgebase". So a person who visits for the first time immediatly sees this fine product of hard labor.
What happen to the Magician section ? Are we being ignore ???
Well, I really love your job, however, my device is being left out !!
Wiki like the forum is user driven. In short if no user feels the need or want to update wiki then it just does not happen.
You dont need to be a moderator to add pages in wiki, you dont even need to be good in english for somebody down the line will add or correct your page.
I have to say - that's a real shame.
There's a lot of information requested on these forums that has been requested before - but often it's buried deep in a confusing thread (most recently the splash image tweaks for the HTC Wizard - I have no idea what util tweaks what splash).
I just created a Wiki page (search for my username, I guess - it's not really linked from anything much yet), and I plan to create more related to the Wizard as time becomes available.
Wikis are inherently much better at giving concise information than an open-discussion forum... wish people would use it.
Help with the SiteManagement Project
Please see the following forum topic to see how you can further help with the FAQ Wiki Project:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=226744#226744
We need as much help as possible to create a sustainable platform in order to further create a workable and informative website, so please check out this topic and see what you can do to help!
Hi guys, is it possible to have access to google-analytics results? Since we need to know for what the users are looking for - the most common search, how they act in site (in wiki! and so on)
Then we can make THE wiki.
Posting to the ftp non public thread, reading that it will happen soon
how change the nick?
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how change the nick?
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Ask a Mod or Admin, only they can make that.
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Only the admin (Flar) can change them.
Please send a PM request it.
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Dave
Hi,
I'm trying since yesterday, but it seems that the old posts, shown by http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=xxx are no longer visible, I'm getting a standard 404 error. Also the new URLs to the threads seem to have changed to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=xxx but the thread ids are not same as the old one.....can someone throw more light?
TIA,
Dushkal
This is quite bad. It means that the majority of the links in the wiki are now broken. As are all the inter-forum links within the posts. Is it possible to create a viewtopic.php that redirects to the new link for the discussion? Is the mapping from old ID to new ID available? If so, you could even write a script to update the wiki & forum automatically.
A redirect would be simpler however. You'd want to preserve permalinks to individual posts if possible as some of the discussions are incredibly long with lots of links to particular key posts with cab files and such like.
Flar, the forum admin is already aware of this issue... a solution might come after a while, just be patient
Thanks to deckardt it is fixed now for the threadid and postid requests
Diamond goes wiki
A wiki page has been opened for the Diamond since a while ago...
WIKI for Diamond
Please look here before asking questions on the forum.
All users can edit this page so you can all add information thus making it a better source of information.
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I have put many Information in it ...
also some rubrics are empty at time... but i search and put all the time infos together and post it in wiki...
if you see errors or have more information feel free to edit/add that infos to the wiki!!
More major infos about the circulating (Shipped) ROMS are desired !!!
please any of the MODS out there made this Thread Sticky!!! --> THX a lot!
thx
FutureShock (Steve)
yes this should be sticky, but not in this thread, this is not ROM Development, yes its about the product but not specific to ROM Development.
Good work though
Hi, i think it should be sticky here too because many Noobs are coming to rom development forum and asking stupid questions... i have nothing to say there where some problems where ROM developers stoped their work because of always answering stupid questions again...
so i think this Thread is good here too!!
The only thing should be that all help together to put all Informations in Wiki too!!
i agree, though thats where STRICT moderation comes in, i know the guys have been a little slack lately (yes that means you too MrVanx and shogunmark ) but they are can take a few days off here and there.
It seems to be getting a mess in the dev. section lately.
Put your idea on this thread and we'll look into it.
1. create sticky for official (samsung) firmware as easy downloads
2. create sticky for some basic guides
3. create sticky with pointers to roms for the in-house cooks (rotohammer etc.)
this is a start.
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
I'd have a set of stickies including:
Flashing Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895827
Unlocking Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843323
Rooting Guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859712
A *HUGE OBNOXIOUS BLINKING* Readme http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888071
I'm by no means a Dev myself, but I'd love to see y'know... development posts when I lurk here.
Ok, now that i'm un-retired, i'll ask some major cleanup on the dev section.
Starting today/tomorrow between flashing my dev Tab
Several people posted dumped stock firmwares, maybe this should be consolidated into one "Get back to stock" sticky?
T-Mobile stock firmware! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855851
[FIRMWARE] - AT&T stock firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847609
AT&T Production Stock Firmware (I987UCJK1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857608
Also, rotobackup instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=850359&highlight=rotobackup
Links to Open Source archives http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844981
Good instructions on building cifs module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9470152&postcount=53
Also can be used to build tun.ko module for VPN.
I would recommend having tags for the different models of tablets. ( [VZW] [TMO] [AT&T] [SPNT] [EURO] etc...)
Just my .02
We really need to have them separated... This is getting bad. Take a vote and and promise everyone would be on board!!
Galaxy Tab Android Development (CDMA)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (GSM)
Galaxy Tab Android Development (...)
Please!!! lol
I agree that the Tab development needs to be split amongst compatibility.
GSM/EUR
CDMA
etc.
That will make the issues with possible flashing mistakes lower and also enable people to find the best build for them.
A third vote for at least something like a top level and sub forums for GSM and CDMA. There might be things that apply to both, but it seems like real development would be at least specific to one or the other, if not down to the carrier level (and I'm not suggesting per carrier forums).
A sticky for my directory(bible). This will be updated frequently. And will be useful for all noobs and pros alike.
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What happened to this idea? The development forum is CRAP. I've spent the last three hours seaching for a stock ROM. Can we please, please get some mod action in here?
Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.
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Sprint only section please! +100 to the splitting up compatible models.
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+1000000 more for spliting up!
I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting
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I agree and count my vote, this forum should be easier to find and read the info im searching for it took me days to find a rom and another day to find out how to mod my device using google we should also hav more dev's more porting
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What we really need is a bigger community. The larger the user base, the larger the dev base. Especially in the states, it seems like no one is developing for our Tabs specifically. And from what I've found, ours are, just like the Galaxy S, different from the international version.
So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....
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So do we even have a Mod ? Can they do this for us ? Its been like weeks since we asked to split it up.....
+1beeeeeeelion to split and have a CMDA and GSM and Intl section added....and then under those when people list just say [Sprint] or [VZW] in the title of the thread....
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Your official mod is taking a break, just busy with life lately. I'll be taking over until he comes back.
I've forwarded this thread on to the admins, being that after being here for 2 days I can already see how bad it is. Hopefully we can get the sections split up and I can start moving posts around.
Can we please also have teh same tagging as HD2 section has, ie the date at beginning of title..
example...
[19.MAR.2011][ROM] Rom Title Rom Version [KERNEL]
is it possible to get this "stickie" out of the developers section?
it would be more helpfull to get serious content into there. also the actual official thread is sticky and dead.
a sticky should be something important or something must read. this thread is not a "must read"
sorry, constructive critics
I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks
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I agree we need some reorg. PLEASE look at my sig, and follow the HD2 url,
Seems the HD2 overall section has recently had a makeover. It is much easier to navigate, and the people whe are not devs can op in on the thread.
The devs, on the other hand, have their own section, that requires you be a dev in order to get into it and exchange ideas. This keeps the riff raff from convelouting the threads.
So, can you please look it over. What ever work is needed to be done, I will offer my assistance to reorg the threads and topics.
Thanks
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I just looked at HD2 section, and theres nothing new there.
They have a section for NAND dev, and for SD Dev, thats it.
There are some plans in the works for the site in general that may do what you're referring to, but nothing is done yet for any of the fora.
If they give you guys the new sections, It will take me a day or so to move everything around. And I dont know tis section as well as I'd like so it may take a little longer as I'd have to go through every thread, but it would get done.
/IF/ that happens, it should clean up the sections a lot and make it easier to find everything. If not, I'm open to suggestions.
I would like to suggest an improvement. (I assume the subject is manually edited, rather than scripted.)
I suggest that first and pure mentions of devices in news articles link to their wiki page - lots of times I read of New Miracle Device X123 and click, expecting to gain info on what the device is - phone/tablet, looks, true manufacturer, etc. Instead I get linked to the forum and the standard subs - developer, apps, questions, etc that all devices have on the forums and learn nothing except that lots of people posted about it. It seems like a perfect place to use the wiki for a quick overview and picture.
Then, when there is a reference to a detail about the device, a project, configuration setting or such - then link to the proper forum or a particular thread.
Assuming I'm fairly normal, I find I click those 1st links right often expecting general data about a new or unfamiliar device - and always get that first forum - that I could have guessed existed - making the first link (to the top forum) fairly useless, as the detail link will usually be listed below in the article to the thread about the particular topic for the device.
Hope I made sense, thanks for listening!
The problem with that is unfortunately our wiki is horrifically under utilised with most device pages containing little to no information.
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The problem with that is unfortunately our wiki is horrifically under utilised with most device pages containing little to no information.
Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
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My preferences change in wiki is not being saved even though it says it's saved.
Whom should i contact regarding wiki issues? Wiki admins?
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Looks like it's a known issue.
Bit of a bump...
It does seem that wiki is a great place for a first notice, and a first link.
While it's not really development, you have to know it exists, etc before you can develop!
Perhaps the first news team can be tasked with an initial entry form that becomes the first paragraph for wiki - manufacturer, release, expected OS, etc.
If news or development got to me I could rough out a form and start....