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i have installed the gingerbread keyboard file on my sd card and have rooted my phone using the visonary method but now i cant seem to get into recovery mode. I have rom manager installed and have flashed clockwork recovery mode. it said that it had sucsessfully installed.
I then flashed it again as i read somewhere that i might need to do it twice as sometimes it dosent work.
when i now click on the recovery option in rom manager all i get is the red triange with the ! in the middle.
any ideas what im doing wrong?
Have tried reading the threads but with 30 plus pages i am now completley confused
Sounds like you don't have S-OFF. What does it say in HBOOT (e.g. hold down volume down and the power button with the phone powered off) ?
steviewevie said:
Sounds like you don't have S-OFF. What does it say in HBOOT (e.g. hold down volume down and the power button with the phone powered off) ?
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thanks for the quick reply, i think from what i have read that this s-off thing maybe the problem.
can you tell me how do this please
simple steps please as i am struggling with this
just done the hboot hing and at the top of screen it says
vision pvt ship s-on
hpsauce37 said:
thanks for the quick reply, i think from what i have read that this s-off thing maybe the problem.
can you tell me how do this please
simple steps please as i am struggling with this
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It's a bit confusing because there is more than one way to do this. But by far the safest way is to follow the guide at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390
Have a good read, then if you're not sure, ask questions in that thread on the process.
steviewevie said:
Sounds like you don't have S-OFF. What does it say in HBOOT (e.g. hold down volume down and the power button with the phone powered off) ?
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S-OFF is a completely different animal. Don't get it confused with being able to boot into recovery.
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rwcj63 said:
S-OFF is a completely different animal. Don't get it confused with being able to boot into recovery.
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I didn't think you could flash recovery without S-OFF though ? Surely ROM Manager doesn't have the ability to write to the NAND, since the write protection will be on if you're at S-ON ?
steviewevie said:
I didn't think you could flash recovery without S-OFF though ? Surely ROM Manager doesn't have the ability to write to the NAND, since the write protection will be on if you're at S-ON ?
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Again. S-OFF is a different issue altogether. Being able to write to NAND is a part of the rooting process. Setting security off is not a part of the rooting process. It's a totally different process for a totally different purpose. The caveat would be if unrevoked has been revised to full root and set S-OFF during the same process. I haven't used it in awhile so on that point, I'm not certain.
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Again. S-OFF is a different issue altogether. Being able to write to NAND is a part of the rooting process. Setting security off is not a part of the rooting process. It's a totally different process for a totally different purpose. The caveat would be if unrevoked has been revised to full root and set S-OFF during the same process. I haven't used it in awhile so on that point, I'm not certain.
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Sorry but that's not right for the DZ/G2. I wonder if you're thinking of how it works on a different Android phone ? The security has been increased on the DZ/G2/DHD compared to, say, the original Desire.
Writing to the system and recovery partitions isn't possible until you get S-OFF. This has nothing to do with rooting, it it because of the increased security on these phones where the NAND is in a hardware write-protect mode for those partitions by default. You can appear to write to the partitions, but it's actually going to cache and is lost when you reboot, until you get S-OFF.
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Sorry but that's not right for the DZ/G2. I wonder if you're thinking of how it works on a different Android phone ? The security has been increased on the DZ/G2/DHD compared to, say, the original Desire.
Writing to the system and recovery partitions isn't possible until you get S-OFF. This has nothing to do with rooting, it it because of the increased security on these phones where the NAND is in a hardware write-protect mode for those partitions by default. You can appear to write to the partitions, but it's actually going to cache and is lost when you reboot, until you get S-OFF.
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Actually yes. S-OFF on the EVO is to make sure no matter what, you're always rooted. It came about after the new stock flash would unroot the phone. With S-OFF active, you can flash any stock rom and not lose root. All you would need to do is reflash RA or Clockwork to get back to recovery and flash roms again. Unrevoked forever is the program we used to change the security setting.
So. That is only true for the EVO?
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Actually yes. S-OFF on the EVO is to make sure no matter what, you're always rooted. It came about after the new stock flash would unroot the phone. With S-OFF active, you can flash any stock rom and not lose root. All you would need to do is reflash RA or Clockwork to get back to recovery and flash roms again. Unrevoked forever is the program we used to change the security setting.
So. That is only true for the EVO?
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yeah I think so.
The new HTC Desire Z and HD had "better" security from htc, basically you can't write anything to nand (/system) until you perma rooted, even then some things such as recovery needed s-off before we could write to that partition.
im going to have to give up on this
i have tried to follow the guide to get s-off but i find it too complicated. I have my phone rooted with visionary but i think thats as far as im going to get.
tried to install the adb thing and get that working but it never recognises the phone. when i remove the drivers and plug it back in then windows automatically installs the drivers again so i never have the option to manually instll them.
this is just becoming a nightmare
someone make it simple for me please....the thread is pages and pages long and even then it seems there are problems
hpsauce37 said:
im going to have to give up on this
i have tried to follow the guide to get s-off but i find it too complicated. I have my phone rooted with visionary but i think thats as far as im going to get.
tried to install the adb thing and get that working but it never recognises the phone. when i remove the drivers and plug it back in then windows automatically installs the drivers again so i never have the option to manually instll them.
this is just becoming a nightmare
someone make it simple for me please....the thread is pages and pages long and even then it seems there are problems
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Have you tried my guide on adb ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
OK, I can use some help too
I have a DZ with stock ROM, root and s-off and CWR.
In my enthusiasm that I knew how to flash rom updates with clockwork (I am running the Godspeed 1Ghz) I downloaded the Gingerbread keyboard rom update from the G2 forum. I think I jumped off a bit too fast...
And now I am stuck in an infinite boot loop. I can get into Clockwork recovery but it just loops the "HTC Quietly Brilliant" forever including the annoying boot sound...
I tried some suggestions to download and reflash a second time, no effect.
I tried to mount /system before flashing, no effect.
Am I forced to go back to factory now?
Also, I found 2 gingerbread keyboards, one in the G2 forum and one over here.
Anyone know what the difference is? They have a different filesize..
Any help is welcome...
*edit*
OK so now I read that it is only to be flashed on a non-stock ROM... so I am now flashing Cyanogen 6.1
try wiping all the caches...
Lennyuk said:
yeah I think so.
The new HTC Desire Z and HD had "better" security from htc, basically you can't write anything to nand (/system) until you perma rooted, even then some things such as recovery needed s-off before we could write to that partition.
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Wow. I'm really sorry guys. I never knew that's how non evo worked. That totally sucks.
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rwcj63 said:
Wow. I'm really sorry guys. I never knew that's how non evo worked. That totally sucks.
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S'alright.
HTC really ramped up the security on these new phones, as Lenny said, with this hardware write-protection on certain partitions. But even given that, I was amazed by just how quickly the guys on the #G2ROOT IRC channel, especially Scotty2, managed to crack it !
It also looks like they've opened the phone even wider than many others before, with the "true" radio S-OFF that they achieved.
You can read up all about it in the Wiki - http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
Is the phone s-off?
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badutahboy said:
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
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No, you can not run an older ruu. If he updated to today or yesterdays update hes stuck. If he is on HBOOT 2.02 he can flash the 3.30.651.3 ruu or ths 3.70.651.1 but you can not ruu further back.
animal7296 said:
No, you can not run an older ruu. If he updated to today or yesterdays update hes stuck. If he is on HBOOT 2.02 he can flash the 3.30.651.3 ruu or ths 3.70.651.1 but you can not ruu further back.
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Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
badutahboy said:
Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
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Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
badutahboy said:
Are either of these rootable yet?
and can someone explain what S-on and off means?
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1. 2.02 is rootable 2.10 is not and is the newest one.
2.0 S-ON means you can not flash roms s-off means you can. It is the security of the phone kind of.
If you can not get into bootloader then you can try running the oldest ruu and then the next. It wont hurt the phone at all (I just did it today) it will just give you an error and reboot the phone.
pseudoremora said:
Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
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Thanks for the explanations and the help.
How do I find out if it's S-on or off, and is it possible to change?
pseudoremora said:
Yes, they're both rootable.
S-ON vs S-OFF; is just basically a security parameter that's being locked/unlocked. This allows for PC36IMG's files to be flashed via the bootloader without having to use or have authenticated signature keys from Google.
Basically, if you ever accept an OTA and it flashes and removes your recovery (CWM or Amon_RA); then you have no way of flashing custom roms/mods, etc... however with S-OFF, you have the ability to get your recovery back and set yourself back to root if need be.
Essentially, S-OFF allows for another method of flashing stuff to the phone besides just using the CWM or Amon_RA recoveries.
Hboot versions however can affect S-OFF; so it's important that if there is a new OTA that you always hold off, until a developer can validate that the hboot can be exploited and that the OTA can be rooted.
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I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
animal7296 said:
I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
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Im with u brotha im stuck on 2.10 from a mistake i made. Was originally on 0.76.2
Sux man
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badutahboy said:
Thanks for the explanations and the help.
How do I find out if it's S-on or off, and is it possible to change?
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To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
animal7296 said:
I have been trying to root 2.10 since yesterday and it has proven to not be possible as of yet. If you have a rooting method that works for me then would you share please?
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luckylui said:
Im with u brotha im stuck on 2.10 from a mistake i made. Was originally on 0.76.2
Sux man
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I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
pseudoremora said:
To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
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However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
pseudoremora said:
To see if you're S-OFF or S-ON; you can boot your phone into bootloader mode.
To do this:
1. Power down the phone
2. Hold the Volume Down + Power button
3. You'll see a white screen with three little Androids
4. Read the very top of the screen; should tell you if you are S-ON or S-OFF.
You can reboot afterwards.
And yes, you can switch from the S-ON to S-OFF and vise versa, though I don't see why you would want to do the latter.
I apologize to the both of you guys; I was under the impression that 2.10 was S-OFF, apparently testing is still being done. For now, looks like you'll have to sit tight. Sorry guys.
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No prob pimp
Ima call sprint n see if i can some how get me a phone w the 2.02 hboot and just pretty much get an upgrade from 0003 hardware to 0004 Lol
Im like jumpy rite now ahaha
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tpbklake said:
However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
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True this, but when i did it i was at 0.76.2 and now screw at 2.10 cause it updated all the way n i didnt want to do that.. Got lost in the tangle haha
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tpbklake said:
However it has been verified that if you were S-OFF on 2.02 you can install the OTA and you will end up with HBOOT 2.10 with S-OFF.
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Yea, I heard about this in the IRC; too bad these guys can do that... unfortunate; but I'm sure the Unrevoked team will have a fix soon enough.
luckylui said:
No prob pimp
Ima call sprint n see if i can some how get me a phone w the 2.02 hboot and just pretty much get an upgrade from 0003 hardware to 0004 Lol
Im like jumpy rite now ahaha
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Good luck with Sprint; I don't know how helpful they're going to be, but you never know...
@luckylui and animal7296, check out the 2.02/2.10 rooting thread again, it seems they got something working. Good luck.
badutahboy said:
Here's my question. My friend's brother attempted to root his stock Evo using simpleroot instructions I sent my friend 4-5 months ago (pre-2.2) without knowing that simpleroot isn't supported. His phone is now borked. When he tries to load into bootloader, he gets an error (not sure which one), but his phone will boot into android.
What I'm wondering is this: As of yesterday, his phone was updated and current as per sprint and the update commands in the system menus... Can he flash back to an older stock rom via RUU (such as this one) without causing other problems? If my understanding is correct, the latest sprint updates aren't yet rootable, right?
Any help on this issue?
Thanks
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There actually is a way to downgrade without rooting, all you need to do is flash the mtd-eng.img file to your misc partition as explained in toast's rooting part 2 thread. After you do that it will let you flash any ruu that is compatible with your phone
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Recently my phone was working fine until today. I was on mikfroyo 4.4 everything was fine until i decided to flash an unimportant file, when i reboot it my phone was doing boot loops, so i decided to wipe everything and flash a clean mikfroyo 4.4 again. it worked for a couple hours, later my phone started to freeze, i took the battery out and i got stuck on the white screen logo.. i tried to take battery out for a couple times and nothing.. i tired to go into recovery mode(amon-ra 2.2.1) and i could not get into recovery, it kept on freezing i was like WTF!! then i tried to go into bootloader and that worked fine, but when i choose to boot into recovery via bootloader it did boot into recovery but then it froze again in recovery.. So at the end nothing worked but bootloader.. then i decided to flash a ROM via bootloader (PC36IMG.zip) and that fixed all the problems temporarily (it did not freeze).. but then I notice that that was a stock unrooted PC36IMG file so i lost root and it put back the HTC stock recovery (NOT AMON-RA nor CLOCKWORK).. then the problems started again (the same from above).. but since i rooted my phone via unrevoked forever i had S-OFF.. so i flashed AMON_RA recovery via bootloader to see if I could flash unrevoked-forever-son (that way i could have S-ON and send it to sprint for a replacement) but again it kept on freezing on recovery mode.... so my question is is there anyway i can flash unrevoked-forever-son via bootloader.... that way i can send it to sprint and tell them that my phone keeps on freezing.
Nothing works but bootloader, everything else freezes (recovery mode and while trying to boot the phone)
I will apreciate your time and help.
Did you try running unrevoked son as PC36img.zip?, then the stock RUU. (doesn't sound like it could hurt, lol)
but what kind of files would i put inside pc36img?
You don't put anything inside the PC36IMG.zip file. It comes ready to go from the unrevoked team:
How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
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- So go here: http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
- Find the section I quoted above
- Download the PC36IMG.zip file
- Put it on the root of your SD card
- Power off
- Hold vol down + power
- Once in HBOOT it will automatically find/ask to run the PC36IMG.zip file
- volia! s-on
I know, i understand that process but my problem is that i cant go into recovery AT ALL it frezzes each time neither to boot my phone normally... the only thing that works fine is bootloader.. so what i am trying to look for is a way to flash the s-on tool via botloader bc i can not go into recovery.
the pc36img contains the stock unrooted ROM - supposed to be flashed via bootloader (i have already done this process so i lost root)
and when you download the S-on tool it comes in a zip file that is suppose to be flash thru recovery not bootloader (and this will be my final step which is not done yet)
yoboii23 said:
I know, i understand that process but my problem is that i cant go into recovery AT ALL it frezzes each time neither to boot my phone normally... the only thing that works fine is bootloader.. so what i am trying to look for is a way to flash the s-on tool via botloader bc i can not go into recovery.
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Edit: one sec -- I am looking for a PC36IMG.zip that did s-on.
spiicytuna said:
I am looking for a PC36IMG.zip that did s-on; I've used it recently on a friends evo
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This is what i was looking for i hope you can find it!! !!!
I was looking for a way to have the s-on tool inside a PC36IMG.zip.. i didnt think it was possible
But isn't that process (PC36IMG.zip) only for things that suppose to be flash thru bootloader? like slpash screens, recoverys, boot.img? so in what category does the s-on tool fits?
I'm sorry for all this questions but i dont wanna make my phone worse then what already is.
I think your best bet is to hop on freenode and join channel #unrevokedtest
Easiest way to do this is here: http://webchat.freenode.net/
They'll be able to help you for sure. LazyDog and joshua_ are two good people to look for.
thank you man.. but nope is confirmed you can not put put the S-on tool into a PC36IMG.zip ima have to tell sprint that i lost it.
yoboii23 said:
thank you man.. but nope is confirmed you can not put put the S-on tool into a PC36IMG.zip ima have to tell sprint that i lost it.
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Did you talk to the guys on irc? Seriously, I've seen them preform some miracles.
PS. The chances of Sprint checking s-on/off is highly unlikely.
You can use the pc36img from amon ra's thread to flash the recovery and then use it to lock your nand. Afterward all you have to do is run the ruu one more time and you will be good to go
I agree with what was said before. The likelihood that they'll look at S-On is VERY small. I would just take it in, tell them its freezing all the time, and ask for a replacement. If by some crazy chance they do look at S-On, just play dumb and pretend you don't even know what it is. If you've got a cute lookin girl to help you that'd be willing to take it in, all the better
Otherwise, try running the RUU for your build number. We'll go from there if you still have problems.
I fixed it, it was all due to a ripped cable inside my evo I don't knw how that happened but it happened lol all I had to do was replace my screen.
And yea I did talk to guys from unrevoked.. they r pretty smart and understood my problem quick but were unable to help me.
I have hw 003 hboot 2.10. I can enter hboot but not recovery. during normal boot phone just shows evo boot screen and boot loops. same thing when I try to enter recovery. I was s-off but after trying some methods in other brick threads I ended up with s-on.
I was using miui 2.2.3 when I turned it rebooted into recovery to make a nand and that is when the loops started. I have tried several ruu's with no luck on getting it to boot. was going to try the lastest ruu but not sure if I should.
I am flashed for cricket so there is not the option of bricking and returning to sprint for a replacement.
Edit: was not using twrp. Ar 2.3 was my recovery. As stated earlier I tried several ruu's in pc36img.zip.
If you can get to hboot you are not bricked. Have you tried using a pc36img of a stock rom in the hboot? This should boot you to a stock rom, thus allowing you to re-root and get your recovery back.
sitlet said:
If you can get to hboot you are not bricked. Have you tried using a pc36img of a stock rom in the hboot? This should boot you to a stock rom, thus allowing you to re-root and get your recovery back.
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You can be bricked and still get in hboot Twrp2.0 did it to a few phones, the partitions end up screwed up and you can boot to hboot but no recovery or system not sure which partition gets borked but I think its the misc partition
We are legion, for we are many
Where is Captain_Throwback to save the day and another evo once again
Oh I am sure Captain will save the day soon as he always does.
That does not sound like fun man, sometimes the evos get crazy and there is nothing you can do about it. Did you do anything different before you had this issue? flash any files, adjust any system settings or mess with the hardware in anyway?
stevovanburen said:
Oh I am sure Captain will save the day soon as he always does.
That does not sound like fun man, sometimes the evos get crazy and there is nothing you can do about it. Did you do anything different before you had this issue? flash any files, adjust any system settings or mess with the hardware in anyway?
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No i had been running miui for a few days and was getting prepared for the next update by doing a nand. I rebooted to recovery with the reboot option in the rom. Then bang boot loop city here i am. Just tried the newest ruu pc36img.zip and still nothing. Going to get it unlocked later and see if I can reflash .img files through fastboot.
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You weren't using twrp2.0 were u? If you were more than likely SOL that's one of the main reasons twrp for the evo is no longer supported even tho it works great on other devices like the kindle fire and 3vo I use it on the KF which I have running cm9 which I just got running on the evo as well now I gotta get my kernel fixed for this thing, have you tried reflashing your recovery? Or using adb to push a boot.img
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evo4gnoob said:
Where is Captain_Throwback to save the day and another evo once again
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I know. Captain has become the shaman of the Evo. He needs a special title, like Honorary Genius, or something.
sent from AOKP heaven
You guys flatter me .
I don't have any experience with MIUI, though. It's the one ROM I've never tried, but if it's an AOSP ROM, then the bootloop of death is always a possibility.
We haven't had any success rescuing anyone in that scenario, unfortunately. Flashing the ENG HBOOT will allow you to run fastboot commands, though, so that's probably the first step if you want to flash stuff through fastboot.
If you can't get adb working, then there probably isn't much hope. Since you ended up S-ON, and now without a custom recovery, I don't think there's much you can do. Perhaps others with a similar issue can chime in, but as far as I know, there's no current solution. The only way I'd know for sure is having the phone in my hands personally, but I doubt that's a possibility. I haven't personally experienced this bootloop thing, but it sounds scary .
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No i had been running miui for a few days and was getting prepared for the next update by doing a nand. I rebooted to recovery with the reboot option in the rom. Then bang boot loop city here i am. Just tried the newest ruu pc36img.zip and still nothing. Going to get it unlocked later and see if I can reflash .img files through fastboot.
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Ok so I have unlocked the bootloader from the htcdevelopers site and i can now use fastboot commands and have tried flashing the recovery. I see it load and write to the phone only thing is that it makes no difference. I still just get the boot loop.
Hate to say it, my friend, but I think it's the end of the road for that phone
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Hate to say it, my friend, but I think it's the end of the road for that phone
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maybe but i will keep trying till the phone catches fire in my hands. I dont know the meaning of "quit". I read last night in a xda thread about a possible fix by this guy and some people said it would just brick the phone and others say it works. only thing is i have been unable to find that thread again. it had a link to some evo.docx file.
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maybe but i will keep trying till the phone catches fire in my hands. I dont know the meaning of "quit". I read last night in a xda thread about a possible fix by this guy and some people said it would just brick the phone and others say it works. only thing is i have been unable to find that thread again. it had a link to some evo.docx file.
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I assume you're referring to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480630
Have fun trying! Many have tried, and I think only 1 ever succeeded.
thanks captain.
capn, thanks for the link! I've had that README_EVO.docx file on my SD for god-knows-how-long and have always wondered where in the hell I got it lol (and 'why').
@jlmancuso
Good luck, but condolences as well. My $ says, if Cap'n can't fix it, it likely can't be fixed (on Evo). Seems that guy has explored every RUU, Hboot, recovery, NV, Radio, kernel etc. He could probably BUILD an Evo, HW and SW lol.
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Captain throwback just the person i want to see lol i have a evo with 2.18 hboot
with s-on the phone keeps boot looping wrote the wrong nv to the phone now its boot looping also used the latest ruu top no avail still boot loops now is there a way i can repair the nv please help me with your guiding light and also this phone is not rooted or no roms its all stock also says in purple at the top ***LOCKED (00w) *** what ever that means ??
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Captain throwback just the person i want to see lol i have a evo with 2.18 hboot
with s-on the phone keeps boot looping wrote the wrong nv to the phone now its boot looping also used the latest ruu top no avail still boot loops now is there a way i can repair the nv please help me with your guiding light and also this phone is not rooted or no roms its all stock also says in purple at the top ***LOCKED (00w) *** what ever that means ??
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I think someone else was able to fix this problem . . . there's a thread around here somewhere. I'll try and find it.
EDIT: This is the thread - you'll probably want to read the whole thing, and if you have issues, maybe you can PM the guy that got it working.
The potential problem I see for you is that you're S-ON and bootloader is locked. You're probably going to have to unlock your device with HTCDev.com before you can make any headway. How were you able to write NV items to the phone? Don't you have to be S-OFF to do that?
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I think someone else was able to fix this problem . . . there's a thread around here somewhere. I'll try and find it.
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i remember you had them downgrade to the ENG hboot and they were able to use fastboot to change the NV ?
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i remember you had them downgrade to the ENG hboot and they were able to use fastboot to change the NV ?
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Yup. I updated my post above with the thread, but that guy was S-OFF, so it was actually possible. Not much you can do with S-ON and locked bootloader.
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Yup. I updated my post above with the thread, but that guy was S-OFF, so it was actually possible. Not much you can do with S-ON and locked bootloader.
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use HTC dev to unlock then use your guide to downgrade then root with revolutionary then downgrade hboot ?
Howdy! Lemme preface all of this by saying that I'm less than a noob here....really inexperienced. Here's the background......
I rooted my DInc and I can't even remember which unrevoked tool I used. I was just reading along and punching commands and when the process was done I was rooted. I installed CWM successfully and flashed to CM7.2 which I've been running for quite some time. Lately I got an itch to try a JB ROM like infected, so when I looked into it, it clearly says I need S-off to accomplish that flash so I checked and realized I was S-on still.
At this point, I added the unrevoked-forever.zip to my sdcard root and tried to flash that ZIP by way CWM and i get these error messages:
E: unsupported radio version
E: update failed. Check/sdcard/soff.log
E: error in /sdcard/unrevoked-forever.zip (Status 42)
I am running Android version 2.3.7 and radio baseband version 2.15.10.12.20
Is this one of those things that I shouldn't be trying from CM7.2 and I should've dealt with before my initial flash to CM7.2?? Basically I'm totally freakin lost and in WAAAAY over my element, so any guidance would be duly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scott
Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
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Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
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Sorry....i guess it pays to be extra thorough in the description of the problem. The link you left me is the one that I followed. I researched achieving S-Off on the DInc first and found this same page in my research. I followed the process and all went smooth right up until i started to flash the unrevoked-forever.zip from my sdcard via CWM. The aforementioned error messages came up on my phone and it said the process failed.
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
smvogel73 said:
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
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Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
PonsAsinorem said:
Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
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Yes thx....I'm gathering that! So this is where terminology gets so dang confusing for me. I didn't think unlocking my bootloader meant the same thing as achieving S-Off?? I already thought my bootloader was unlcoked, as I was able to flash CM7.2, which I didnt think I would be able to do if I had a locked bootloader. So wicked confused!!! And try as I miught to educate myself in these forums, I haven't located a sticky or guide that really thoroughly explains all the vernacular regarding android dev/modding/rooting/flashing/etc
So this other method will work with any radio baseband version then?? Or is it important to check compatibility there too??
What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
About Unlock and S-ON
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What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
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It says "UNLOCKED" and below that it says "S-ON
Thank u for the materials too!
So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run. I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.
The ROM I'm looking to flash is Infection JB 4.2.2. The instructions say that if you're coming from. A non-AOSP ROM and are S-On that you've gotta extract boot.img and fastboot it after the ROM flash......whatever the heck that means???
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So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run.???
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Correct. Staying S-ON minimizes the danger. It locks your radio, and HBOOT, which are the main dangers.
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I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.???
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Not really ROM flashing, but radio and HBOOT flashing, which is what unrevoked-forever tweaks.
I'd try to flash it one more time. When you do, what, if anything, are you wiping? You should be doing a factory reset, system, and boot wipe/format, then flash the ROM.
If that doesn't work (it might not, it's been awhile since I've worked with S-ON devices), then we'll move on to S-OFF (if you want).
Oh no.....I didn't even attempt to flash the Infection JB ROM specifically because I was not able to achieve S-Off. Whether it was intended or not, yea.....u sufficiently scared me about bricking the phone if I'm not to spec per the developer.
Are u saying I should wipe and then try to flash this ROM despite still being S-On?
Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
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Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
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Well there you have it....I will trust your wisdom (as it is far supperior to my own) and I shall flash this ROM tonight!! I already have a nandroid backup of CM7.2 that Im running, as well as a Titanium backup of all my user apps/files.
Sincerest thanks for all your help!!
Hello. Im no expert but i think Cyanogenmod is aosp so you should be good.
I was where you were 2 yrs ago when I rooted my 1st phone: a friends froyo Dinc (ahhh...froyo). A few months ago I aquired my own and went to research how to root GB and everything has changed and is now vastly more complicated. Also I think every phone has a locked bootloader but not encrypted and I think Soff is extra security since I've only encountered it on htc phones. Anyway I've managed to get my inc to Soff but its still locked, idk how lol
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