[Q] Risks of Installing, and How to Duel Boot? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

Just wondering, what are the risks? I mean, other than voiding your guarantee.
Is it possible to use SD for everything, and only have android boot when the SD card is in.
Oh, and if there is 0-1% risk and it is possible to use SD (even if it will still show the duel boot loader even when SD card is out), I would please like a step by step guide to duel booting it. Everywhere I look is a "Install this bootloader here, get this ROM there, now figure it out for yourself."
To minimize risk of my device not coming back, can someone please tell me step by step, EXACTLY how to do everything.
thx for even reading it,
drnessie

This should help...
There is really no risk booting an android version from your SD card using Haret.EXE. There are some risks flashing the ROM to NAND which could leave your phone inoperable or 'bricked'. I have always flashed to NAND and have never had problems but trust me, I spent countless hours, reading and learning from many posters in the forums about how to do it properly. Using the search features in the forums, you will probably find answers and tutorials for booting Android from your SD card and flashing the ROM of your choice to NAND...
Here are a few good starting points:
Ongoing thread which should get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=680518
Excellent step by step courtesy of 'Zenity':
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760518

Thanks for that!
Where do I find Haret.exe?
Scratch that, found Haret.exe.

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[Q] Noob help please!!!

I don't really understand the term 'Flash'. What is it and how do I perform flash on my Evo? There is an explanation for Apple phones but since this is a different phone I figured, the process wasn't really the same.
I have already downloaded Netarchy's rooted rom but I do not know really how to flash/install it on to my sd card or is it the phone that it gets installed to?
Any help would be totally appreciated
ahhhh man... You're about to get mobbed to death for not doing any research by some folks on here...
its all good though...
anyways.
When you flash something to your phone all you are doing is basically "unzipping" a file onto it. Much like you unzip files onto your computer using winrar or whatever.
In order to flash a rom to your phone you first have to gain full root. If you haven't done this yet you can do so by going to the development section of this forum and searching for simple root. this will give you full root access and the ability to "flash" roms, themes, etc.
Once you have rooted your phone, NOW you can finally flash a rom.
Flashing is super easy.
Put the file of the rom you want on the root of your sd card (not in any folders or anything)
Then power off your phone.
Power it back on by holding the power and VOLUME DOWN button at the same time. This will bring up a recovery screen. On this screen go to "install zip from sd card" AKA "Flash"
Once you go there, look for the rom you just installed on your sd card and press it. It will start FLASHING it to your phone. then you just reboot and your all sit..
P.S You seem to be really new to this, so before you do anything research What rooting your phone is. How to do it. ETC. Just get your feet wet a bit before you dive in.
Flashing roms and themes and all that junk is really easy once you get the hang of it.
If you need any help P.M me.

[Q] very new to htc and smartphones and i don't know anything, i need HELP

hi everybody you guys are geniuses!
i m new to this whole spartphone thing! i just bought my htc evo and i m trying to root it but i don t even know the basics! what is a flash and how do i flash? what is sd configuration and how do i do that! how do i do backup ;nandroid backup?what is a kernel and how to put it into my rom!! basicly i need all the info from the begining until i run a custom rom! i really need help on this one! thank you!
Google is your friend
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There are plenty of people around here that like to help, but asking to have the entire android guide spelled out for ya is a bit much. Go search and read up on what you can understand, then read a little further. When it starts to get confusing again, come back and ask a specific question or two. You will get a lot more help that way.
That s why I m asking! I did look it up, and it s confusing
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utzu said:
That s why I m asking! I did look it up, and it s confusing
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You gotta look up the tutorials. Flashing means moving something to your SD card and installing it.
unrevoked is kinda advanced since ur brand new..search on youtube for how to root evo 4g
swyped htc supersonic
stay stock
Google the basics . Most people don't have time to explain everything to you. There is a lot to learn, and I would advise you to not mod your phone unless its something you like to do. Your home work too google.
What is : nand recovery, back up, restore
What is: flashing
What is: recovery
What is: sd card, what is stored on it
What is a : rom
What is a :kernel
How do I flash them?
Learn what a ".apk" file is
What two recoveries do you have to choose from?
What is root? And its history (where it came from)
What is "su command"
What is "s" off and "s" on
Like I said, if you don't like too do this stuff and aren't a geek like the rest of us then I wouldn't bother, it takes a lot of reading and learning, one thing we all have in common is we are all still learning.
Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
Honestly, I would love to help, but you are asking too much. It takes weeks, months, even years to get fully acquainted with android and hacking it, especially if this is your first smartphone. If I were you, I would enjoy being stock for now. Once you figure out how to use either terminal or command prompt (Mac or pc, in that order) then maybe start making gradual changes. If you need ANY actual help, pm me as you would not be the first noob i helped. I consider it my duty (ha). Take developments from the experts, give info to the noobs. Really, get familiar with everything, look up some stuff, watch some videos, and if you still need any help, shoot me or another one of the experienced and helpful devs at the xda a pm (private message. Click their name and it will give you the option.) and you will be helped, I garuntee it.
utzu said:
hi everybody you guys are geniuses!
i m new to this whole spartphone thing! i just bought my htc evo and i m trying to root it but i don t even know the basics! what is a flash and how do i flash? what is sd configuration and how do i do that! how do i do backup ;nandroid backup?what is a kernel and how to put it into my rom!! basicly i need all the info from the begining until i run a custom rom! i really need help on this one! thank you!
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Hahahaha really! I mean c'mon did you even read any of the sticky's (threads at the very top of the forums)? Youll be amazed that all or most of your answers are there..
Heres a link to get you started read the page and click the links and read some more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Supersonic&useskin=vector
Not picking on ya but you need to understand the basics on yor own because its likely your phone will get messed up if you dont, and you are the only one to blame if it does. Thays why its important to fully understand what you are doing, remember flashing anything to your phone WILL void the warrantee if you screw up so be carefull.
Read for a month!
Read up on everything for a month, then start your EVO hacking experience!
Here are a few that are great starting points:
Common Misconceptions and Info
HTC EVO WIKI
How To Use These Forums
How To Search XDA
Helpful/Popular Threads
REMEMBER! - Any question you are thinking to ask, has most likely been asked and answered before on these forums SO SEARCH!
Good luck, and welcome!
I would start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
once you get that done the custom recovery is installed things will be much easier
I used that root method one my replacement evo and it worked just fine.
BrianDigital said:
I would start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
once you get that done the custom recovery is installed things will be much easier
I used that root method one my replacement evo and it worked just fine.
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This is if the OP does NOT have Android v2.2.
OP - If you go this route you will need to downgrade in Regaw's 2.2 ROOT METHOD, but stop before using unRevoked.
I am in an overly good mood today so i will help out with some basic information
What is : nand recovery, back up, restore - A nand back up is basically a way to back up your phone its rom and settings. a nand restore uses the a nand back up you made to put your phone back to where is was when you made the nand back up (think about a restore point on a windows computer very similar concept).
What is: flashing - Flashing is the process used to install system files. this is usually done through a recovery which i will get into below. the reason it is called flashing and not installing is because it needs to be done through recovery and is a slightly different process but in more basic terms it is basically installing your rom or radio or other system critical pieces onto the phones internal memory.
What is: recovery - a recovery is basically a program that lets you access some advanced system features, these include nand back up and restore, wiping cache, data, and dalvik, and the ability to flash (install) certain files to your phone. to get into a recovery with your phone off hold volume down and the power button you will load to a white screen with several options (this is the hboot or bootloader) select recovery.
What is: sd card, what is stored on it - Out of the gate your sd card is set up as it should be. their are a few reason you might change this however with 2.2 it has become less of a need and i recommend just leaving it be. The main reason people configure there sdcards is to allow a script called apps2sd to work. what this does is it allows you to store all your apps on the sd card they are normally stored on the phones internal memory. Froyo or 2.2 (the android os version on your phone) has the ability to allow apps to move to your sd card through the settings. now this doesn't work for all apps as it has to be turned on by the app creator but many it will. Because of this i would leave your sdcard alone while you learn the ropes.
What is a : rom - a rom is basically the operating system of your phone. what a rom does is replace the default os with a custom one that has been tweaked or built by a developer. this is the piece of the phone you interact with.
What is a :kernel a kernel is basically the software that translates what you do in the rom to the hardware. think of it as the phones steering wheel. you let the phone to do this and the kernel interprets it so the hardware knows what to do,
How do I flash them? To flash files is relatively easy you place them on the root of your sd card (basically drag and rop onto the sd card but not in any folder). then you boot into the recovery. in the recovery you shoudl be able to find the options to wipe cache, wipe data/factory and wipe dalvik. you select each of these and then yuo select flash .zip from sd. next you scroll to the file you want to flash (the rom or kernel etc you want) and select it (normally power button) you should then flash the rom. once it is flashed select back until you see reboot phone and then reboot it and you should boot up with your new rom.
What is "s" off and "s" on - s on and s off is basically the way you can tell you are rooted in the bootloader (or hboot i talked about above) at the very top you should see one of these options. what these mean is whether your phone requires a signed file (s on) or whether it can flash unsigned files (s off). for now just consider a signed file as an official file with an unsigned file being unofficial or modded.
Now hopefully this explains a bit of the basics better and gives you enough information to better understand what is going on. My recommendation is to take the steps to root flash etc 1 at a time it is easy to read through all the instructions and go wow this is confusing. it really isnt as bad as it seems and as long as you follow each step you should be fine. just do exactly what each step tells you to do and dont worry about the next steps till you are there. you still have a lot to learn and the best way you can learn it is by searching the forums think of it as your library.
many people are glad to help however as you can see from some of the posts it is expected that you at least try to learn and research things for yourself. if you get stuck on something ask and you will normally get an answer just try remember if you cant take the time to search and research things you shouldn't expect others to take the time to help. i'm not saying you did i ma jsut giving advice for the future.
anyway best of luck and hopefully this will get you in the right direction.
NOTE: i have "dumbed" down some of the explanations to give the jiest of the idea with out getting to technical so for those that are more technical it is on purposse.

[Q] Evo 4g root help

I'm a nooobie. I tried rooting my phone using the Evo Universal Root, and i didn't read the instructions. I went right to the video and did the same thing the video told me to do. But my phone ended up getting semi bricked. I can access the bootloader, but i don't know what to do from there. I think my SD is also messed up. Someone Please Help!!!!!! What should I do?
If you can still access bootloader, try to get back to stock. Here's an unroot thread with a PC36IMG.zip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141&highlight=Unroot
The first time I tried to root my phone, it corrupted my sdcard and I had to get a new one. Try testing it in another device and see if it can still be read (ideally you have a microsd to sd adapter and a sd port on your computer). If it can be read on a different device, you might just have to reformat it (this erases all the data on the card, so save the data elsewhere if possible/if you care). If it can't be read by multiple devices, it's probably corrupted and you'll have to get a new one.
After you unroot it, if you still want to root your phone, you might want to try the unrevoked method (unrevoked.com). It's super easy and works really well (it's what I used after the first root method I tried failed). They don't provide instructions on the website, but you can find them here. Read the instructions first this time, there are a couple of things you have to do before you begin.
You didnt read the instructions? it took me a week of reading before i was even comfortable enough to try it. i reccomend you read as much as possible on the subject, I mean you see what can happen if you dont!
You'll need to install the version of htc sync that is in the instructions and then restart the script from the screen with the red triangle. It should be able to finish once you do that.
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[Q] Boot from sd card. has anyone tried it?

I saw this post about booting from the sd card [into el30] to update PRLs/Profiles and was wondering if anyone has tried it?
It seems like none is trying to answer your question. It was same to me but let me tell you what I'm thinking about.
For me, I'm not going to take any risk by booting from sdcard. If you are just stay on one rom, you may want to do this.
But, just like me, many users in this forum, they are flashing the roms so frequently. What this means is, there are some potential high risks on placing boot partition on sdcard. I would rather not try to use sdcard to boot the phone and stay with proven method as much as.
yeah i was just looking at this site about a special rom that boots into a stock rom so i could manually swap a prl and then have it reboot into my cm9. but i dunno. i just hate starting the whole process over when im testing prls.

Custom rom + A2SD -> SD card malfunction -> Unable to boot/recovery

Hello. I need your advise!
Situation:
Some time ago, i was using leedroid 3.x and it was very satisfactory
However, at one day, it said like "No SD card detected" at notification bar,
and I rebooted, it just looped Leedroid booting screen
Went to recovery, reflashed, factory reset, delete data all, new SD, no SD, did everything i can, however whatever rom i put in there it just looped booting screen
I went to HTC service center they somehow they fixed my phone although they knew i rooted mine.
Question:
1. Is this a well known problem? I just went to service center and living in fear because of my ignorance? I searched some articles about brick however couldn't find matching cases with me.
2. If not, I suspect that the custom rom "moved" some vital system files on SD, therefore any rom couldn't boot. How realistic my suspicion?
3. Most importantly, how can i prevent this? my phone was practically bricked and it was a pure luck i could get service.. and this time i flash a custom rom, i dont want to live in fear..
That's all. Thanks in advance !!
1. not sure how widespread it is, but sounds like sd card malfunctioning more than phone problem, or possible USB brick.
2. you're correct. Leedroid 3.x roms move parts to sd-ext. this is why new sd or no sd wouldnt boot. sd card has to be correctly partitioned using 4ext recovery (requires s-off) or gparted. do not use minitool and/or rom manager
3. don't know, at a minimum proper partitioning as stated above. it wasn't bricked at all because you could get to recovery. you probably could have flashed RUU, s-off and rooted again using revolutionary. in future, for any troubleshooting, consult bortak's guide stickied to top of Q&A.
Thank you! I WILL Consult FAQ in XDA if something like that happen again.
(though at that time I didn't know about XDA T.T)
(not to mention i am struggling with so many acronyms and jargons going around here..)
And please if you can clear up one more thing for me..
So if the leedroid and/or any future custom rom i want to install, move some system file to SD card, and the SD card goes wrong,
same boot-looping happens, then
Go to recovery
Flash RUU (<- i searched and i think RUU means offical stock rom.. )
- This process restore system files and therefore go back to the state before rooting, so the phone can boot however it is not rooted
Root again since the phone is now a reborn virgin
Flash new custom room or whatever
Is this the logic behind reviving process? Did i understand correctly? I read the sticky article at the beginning of the forum, but i could not understand the full meaning behind troubleshooting process written there..
Thank you in advance!
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1. not sure how widespread it is, but sounds like sd card malfunctioning more than phone problem, or possible USB brick.
2. you're correct. Leedroid 3.x roms move parts to sd-ext. this is why new sd or no sd wouldnt boot. sd card has to be correctly partitioned using 4ext recovery (requires s-off) or gparted. do not use minitool and/or rom manager
3. don't know, at a minimum proper partitioning as stated above. it wasn't bricked at all because you could get to recovery. you probably could have flashed RUU, s-off and rooted again using revolutionary. in future, for any troubleshooting, consult bortak's guide stickied to top of Q&A.
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omsk_transmash said:
Thank you! I WILL Consult FAQ in XDA if something like that happen again.
(though at that time I didn't know about XDA T.T)
(not to mention i am struggling with so many acronyms and jargons going around here..)
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yes the jargon takes some time to learn...the first thing to remember in any situation is that google is always your friend :good:
And please if you can clear up one more thing for me..
So if the leedroid and/or any future custom rom i want to install, move some system file to SD card, and the SD card goes wrong,
same boot-looping happens, then
Go to recovery
Flash RUU (<- i searched and i think RUU means offical stock rom.. )
- This process restore system files and therefore go back to the state before rooting, so the phone can boot however it is not rooted
Root again since the phone is now a reborn virgin
Flash new custom room or whatever
Is this the logic behind reviving process? Did i understand correctly? I read the sticky article at the beginning of the forum, but i could not understand the full meaning behind troubleshooting process written there..
Thank you in advance!
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the troubleshooting guide has saved many people, takes time to understand it all. it's easy to panic when the phone is not booting
RUU should be your last resort, because you lose all your data. keep your contacts backed up to google, and have a recent nandroid backup saved on your PC just in case. but yes RUU is a stock unrooted firmware for you to start fresh.
in your case i would have:
- made a nandroid backup in recovery
- backed up the sd card to PC
- reformatted and repartitioned the sd card (4ext or gparted)
- restored nandroid
not all roms move system files to sd card, check each rom's requirements in the first post (hboot, sd-ext partition size), or search the thread.

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