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Constant Bootloop after flashing ANY kernel

Hey everyone,
Hopefully someone can help me with this situation. I haven't been able to find relevant information yet.
I'm currently running a Rooted Incredible with the latest Virtuous ROM. I'm trying to flash back to the stock .17 kernel from HTC, but ANY kernel I flash onto it causes the screen to load up as far as the red eye, stall and then reboot causing a constant loop. The only way I can get beyond this so far is just flashing my recovery image. I've installed from ROM manager and checked to wipe data/cache (backed up before of course!) and have even booted into recovery manually and flashed from the download folder and the actual zip file. Before that I've wiped data and dalvik cache. I can't figure out what I'm missing here. Any suggestions??? I hope I haven't crippled my Droid by doin this.

DL the new stock kernel to pc mount card to pc put the new kernel somewhere you'll remember then reinstall sdcard and try flashing the kernel that way if you haven't already
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Hypcrsy said:
Hey everyone,
Hopefully someone can help me with this situation. I haven't been able to find relevant information yet.
I'm currently running a Rooted Incredible with the latest Virtuous ROM. I'm trying to flash back to the stock .17 kernel from HTC, but ANY kernel I flash onto it causes the screen to load up as far as the red eye, stall and then reboot causing a constant loop. The only way I can get beyond this so far is just flashing my recovery image. I've installed from ROM manager and checked to wipe data/cache (backed up before of course!) and have even booted into recovery manually and flashed from the download folder and the actual zip file. Before that I've wiped data and dalvik cache. I can't figure out what I'm missing here. Any suggestions??? I hope I haven't crippled my Droid by doin this.
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You should not be wiping data when flashing a new kernel.

How does that differ from flashing it from recovery if I may ask? I figured I had done everything properly and even after just going to recovery, wiping dalvik, wiping data then flashing I keep getting the issue.
I'm actually at work at the moment and don't have access to my PC to download it. But I'll give it a shot when I get home. Luckily flashing my recovery image works just fine, I'm just stumped why now it wants to cause me grief.

Hypcrsy said:
How does that differ from flashing it from recovery if I may ask? I figured I had done everything properly and even after just going to recovery, wiping dalvik, wiping data then flashing I keep getting the issue.
I'm actually at work at the moment and don't have access to my PC to download it. But I'll give it a shot when I get home. Luckily flashing my recovery image works just fine, I'm just stumped why now it wants to cause me grief.
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At the most, you should be wiping dalvik. You should not be wiping data when flashing a kernel. Doing so will result in the self-inflicted grief you're experiencing.

najaboy said:
You should not be wiping data when flashing a new kernel.
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Sorry I just saw this post immediately after I replied. I thought wiping data applied for both flashing ROMS and kernels.

najaboy said:
At the most, you should be wiping dalvik. You should not be wiping data when flashing a kernel. Doing so will result in the self-inflicted grief you're experiencing.
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^This. Only wipe dalvik, not data.

Ok I'll give it a shot while I'm here. I was flashing over to the new edition of Kings and it just became incredibly unstable when interacting with SetCPU, so I was just going to go back to the stock HTC one, that's when I got the first constant bootloop. I'll give it a shot and let you guys know what happens. Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah the reload worked this time, I don't know why it was giving me such an issue when I could have sworn it was working ok every other time I've done it before. Any reasons why I'd be getting such a hard time from Kings Kernel 6? I've seen so many rave reviews with it but everytime I have it on my phone it lasts me about ten minutes and then goes back to that same constant boot cycle.

Hypcrsy said:
Yeah the reload worked this time, I don't know why it was giving me such an issue when I could have sworn it was working ok every other time I've done it before. Any reasons why I'd be getting such a hard time from Kings Kernel 6? I've seen so many rave reviews with it but everytime I have it on my phone it lasts me about ten minutes and then goes back to that same constant boot cycle.
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thats weird anyone else having that problem? haven't tried 6 yet
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You only need to wipe dalvik if going to and from one with HAVS, but it doesn't hurt to be safe.
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Thanks for the assistance everyone. I finally got the darn thing stable. But I'm still curious about the kings kernel 6. I was stoked to try it because I was hoping it would be stable. I was having that instability issue with 5. Anyone else know what I'm talking about???
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Hypcrsy said:
Thanks for the assistance everyone. I finally got the darn thing stable. But I'm still curious about the kings kernel 6. I was stoked to try it because I was hoping it would be stable. I was having that instability issue with 5. Anyone else know what I'm talking about???
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Not exactly. I was running 5 on SkyRaider 3.3.2 for a while, then all of a sudden I started having horrible lag while unlocking the phone and for about 7-10 seconds afterwards. Is this what you're referencing? When I switched to BFS6, I didn't have the problem. But the problem did kick in a while after install of 5 (few weeks), I didn't have 6 that long. 6 seemed pretty solid. Give 6 a shot, if you don't like it, just flash something else. Nandroid just to be safe, too.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running Myn's Warm Two Point Two RLS4.

Yeah I always nandroid just in case when I do any serious modification, but I was experiencing the same issue with 6 as I was with 5. Just checking the different limits with SetCPU, anytime I went over 1.1 for overclocking the phone would stay on for about 15-20 seconds and then reboot, get as far as the red eye and then reboot again. That was as far as I ever got with his kernels which is unfortunate.

When testing SetCPU and overclocking, make sure you don't have set on boot enabled.
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Thanks I'll give it a shot later on.

[Q] irc, myn's rls5, toastmod kernal.....wth is wrong

Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient

Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
(irc help would be awesome still since I now have some help with main issue- I enter all the correct info into the app but it shows nothin. I've tried several to no avail. I appreciate the help) second I've ran into more pretentious ppl in these forums for Android then others no offense to the good guys but just my exp. It was brash to say that in this post tho. Thank you guys again for the ones willing.

That's because even the biggest idiot can work an iphone.

Jataadroid said:
Ok no help? Not even some direction for irc where I can get some real help? Well just flashed a diff kernel thanks for the help guys. The Droid community has been a very unhelpful one compared to iPhone....
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Jataadroid said:
Ok since this the third time typing this here is the condensed version. Running myns rls5 ontop of toastmod kernel listed on same page. Initial flash went ok minus the Flickr screen, distortion lines laterally, horrendous battery life, weird boot process...osmonitor I had to install due to interference with the OS. Myns crashed a lot with in first flash. Also some one dumb down how to use an irc app cuz I'm also lost....also what IM service can I get hold of u guys on cuz I hate forums.... too impatient
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Patience dude. I didn't catch it, but what exact kernel are you using, net has a lot of em, the one in the OP of myn's thread you mean? What recovery(and version of that recovery, some versions of clockwork floating around that have some bugs i think) did you use to flash the rom? what radio version and pri version do you currently have installed? Which ROM were you coming from, and did you do a full wipe(data, cache, davlik cache) before flashing it? I have never experienced anything like you are describing whilst using Myn's, his ROMs have been solid. Give a little more info and surely we can help you get running smoothly again.

thanks for the reply heres the details...myn's rls5, net toast havs more, ra_superson
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again

Looks like we're running nearly the same setup, minus my ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery. I have attempted the stock kernel furnished in the Rom zip but since it didn't offer overclock I switched to net havs more smartass. I do the dalvik and cache wipe each time.

Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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Not trying to be a smart ass but do you realize that by insulting us will not get you any help? Rhetorical question
From reading what you jus stated the obvious problem is you did not do a FULL WIPE as you should do when flashing between roms.
Also next time please be patient as those like myself who browse through this section to help impatient ppl like your self, do actually have a life outside of xda. Its been a big snow storm in the southeast so most like myself included are outside enjoying the snow!
DO A FULL WIPE THEN REPORT BACK!

Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster

gotta do a full wipe if you are switching between roms
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also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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Ok. Well crap.... thanks guys since that is apparently my only option.

OneStepAhead said:
also make sure whatever kernel your using works with the 3.70 based roms, as many dont.
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The kernel was included in the op and I've seen tags with same setup as mine.

Jataadroid said:
Gonna ignore the soap box chatter...
Obviously know I didn't do full wipe.....just gonna wait for other poster
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Sorry you feel that way but since i have had the hero, on every thread about a rom says wipe all! This must be a joke for someone as rude as yourself to come on here and disrespect those who are trying to help.
Next time you decide to flash a rom remember to do a full wipe because inside the data partition is files for the particular rom, if you dont wipe, the new files will just over lay but not delete the old one. This will cause conflicting issues within the files as the phone tries to do both at the same time.

Screen tearing and the "jigglies" as I like to call it have always come from kernels - in my experience. And just because someone might have the same set up as you, the way it affects your phone ccan be quite different as you are running different apps, different settings, etc.
First thing I would do if I were you is to freeze any kernel govenor you are using - no setcpu, no secreen off profile, no set on boot, no os monitor govenor, no nothing like that. You don't want want any of that going on when you flash a new rom or kernel.
I know you don't want to do a full data wipe so let's see if we cna get you going without that. I used to HATE doing data wipes, I don't mind so much now because I've learned that trobule shooting can frequently take longer than just doing a data wipe.
I would say #1 make sure you are using AMON RA. Power button-reboot-recovery. Wipe cache at least twice, wipe dalvik at least twice. Now JUST flash the rom (you've already said your radios are updated so you wont have a problem with this). Let the phone boot up and give it time to settle in. You wont have any screan tearing. Now you're running a completely stock Myn's rls5 rom. Check some stuff out, make sure your basic settings are good, make sure your 4g is not scanning, etc.
Make a nandroid of this and keep it.
Now start making changes if you'd like. Flash a different font, flash a different kernel, etc. But leave all the governors OFF until you have a kernel that you KNOW will run ok on your phone. For example - I can run 2 of ziggy's kernels but the others don't work for me. I can run a few of net's kernels, but many don't work for me.
So my basic suggestion is to make sure you get a stable, stock Myn's rls5 on your phone before you mod it. If you can't get that, then yes - you might want to wipe data. Doing a batch backup in Titanium is really easy and it makes restoring very easy as well. It's our own customizing that is time consuming because we are all probably very picky (and proud!) of our beautiful phones.

Thanks for the helpful info from ALL that posted. I understand the risk of the non entire wipe, nandroid is safe of original stock Rom but not of new one. After tinkering with setcpu I've gotten more consistent stability. I know I will reflash with an entire data wipe here soon to see results. Running ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery.
I've made list of check point when I test some new Roms and kernels. I have some more question on backing up user info from backed up apps but Im sure ill find it on here.
Now that my system is stable for the time being, some one mind help me setup irc? And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it. Ra_supersonic 2.2.1 recovery i like also.

Jataadroid said:
Sincerely thanks for your reply. Typing this on my evo as my screen tears on and off. Running ra_supersonic(newest ver.) With Myns rls5 on net havs more smartass as listed on page. Updated to current radio and pri as listed on his post. Only dalvik and cache wiped not data. Flashed
Hulu and data governor hacks...CPU is only overlooked to 1190 in smartass and can't go any higher. This was my first root and flash so came from stock 2.2 on 3.30 ver. Have noticed avg using temp is around 103 off charger, cameras broke, my CPU in system panel says I'm running 100% continuously. Did a fast reboot , norm reboot, and still doin it. I had diminished battery life from the get go, I understand battery life per clockspeed relation but have underclocked profile to try to assist, which only cause frustration when coming back from lock screen and its still tryin to switch profile. Lagged the phone nearly locked out several times cuz it couldn't keep up with my fingers.0003 hw....I think that's it. Thank you again
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You're welcome. I am late at getting back to this post, but yea. Definitely. As everyone else has suggested, you have to do a full wipe when changing ROMS. Only time you could get away with just wiping davlik cache and cache is when upgrading the same rom ( like from rls 3 to rls 4, and rls to rls 5), but even then, it doesn't always work. Full wipe is always recommended. I would also recommend downloading your apps one at a time from the market, and adding your mods one at a time, make sure everything is stable after each flash. Good luck.

QUOTE And also has anyone issues with camera breaking with this Rom or kernel? I should wait to wipe entirely to see if it fixes, but I'd rather not waste my time with this Rom or kernel if the camera won't work. Love everything else about this Rom, need to learn more about the kernel to praise it QUOTE
If your phone is the newer hardware (late 003 or 004), you can only use the stock kernel, or a kernel based off stock for the camera to work. That would be htc #15. I believe Net's 4.3 kernels are based off of that. I am also pretty sure that Net explains that in his kernel thread in the development section.

Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.

Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76

r.storm85 said:
Theres been lots of issues with 3.70 based roms. I always stick to lower versions..usually 3.30 and have no problems.. i also hace seen alot of people having battery problems on 3.70 after updating to 1.90 pri. They usually downgrade to pri 1.77 and there good.....
Evo - Myn 2.2 RLS 3 - Clockwork - HBoot .76
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This isn't true, the problem is ALWAYS the kernel. I'm running myn rls5 and mikfroyo 4.3 with an SBC #15 v7 kernel (i'll edit post and add the link) and I have had zero issues except I can't download MMS messages on 4g on mikfroyo.
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Thanks guys did the full wipe and reflashed, working ok except SD file permissions are screwed up now. I go to test camera and it says insufficient file permissions when I take a pic. I go to check in astro, I see all the file that are supposed to be there but no editing; it still shows rw. Did not have card in when full wipe was completed would that effect it? Any help? Haven't attempted another SD card. I hope this isn't the second SD card to be trashed during my rooting process. Atleast I can still see that there r files on there. Thanks for the help.
Also any help gettin set with irc? Still having a horrible time trying to work with it....it seems so simple.... so 0003hw are stuck with stock roms or ones based off them...I believe nets kernel on that page was. I will test it out and let you know. I just need to know about the SD card problem. Thanks again guys.
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Okay, this process will 100% work. It's the one I've been using since my lowly mytouch slide oh so many months ago.
*before you do this, make sure you have backups of your nandroid and your rsa keys. I'll edit post and give you links on how to back up your rsa keys*
RSA Key back-up: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887900 ...since you're rooted you can go straight to the part where it says "if you're rooted do this.."
1. First you need to fix the sd card. Create a folder on your computer desktop and call it "my sd card". Plug your phone into the computer and select "disk drive". Next you're going to copy EVERYTHING from the sd card and place it in the folder on the desktop (and dude I mean everything! AS IS, DON'T CHANGE ANY NAMES). Then, you're going to unhook your phone, go to settings>sd and phone storage. Then you're going to format your sd card. Yes, do it, but make sure you have EVERYTHING backed up first. After that's done, plug your phone back in, select disk drive and copy everything from your "my sd card" folder on your computer and put it back onto your sd card.
*phew*
Okay now that the sd problem is fixed, here's how you fix the rest. You see, when you upgrade your PRI to 1.90 and your radio, etc etc you gotta update the kernel to a version that's 1.90 supported. I'll edit post and post a link to where you can find one OR you can just use the kernel that's included with myn's rom because it WILL WORK. *edit* the kernel I'm using has been taken down because of the witch hunt against SBC kernels. So for now, just stick with stock. It works just fine.
Anyway.
Steps to getting myn working perfectly.
*before starting, re-download myn rls5 in case the screen flickering was caused by a corrupted download*
1. Download Titanium Back-up from the market. Back up all the apps you want to keep (basically, anything you downloaded from the market as you'll get facebook, sense widgets, etc back). You can do this while you re-download the rom.
2. Make a nandroid back-up in case something goes seriously wrong. A rom that flickers your screen is better than a brick.
3. Once that back-up is done, reboot into recovery. Once there, you're going to WIPE EVERYTHING. Full data, cache and dalvik wipe. Yes, do it. There is no other option.
3. Flash myn's rom. Let it go all the way through. Do NOT flash a new kernel until you've found one that's 3.70 compatible and works with PRI 1.90. Myn rls5 is designed to work with the newest updates (which means a #15 kernel, like the one that came stock).
4. Reboot. If the screen is still flickering, then at this point it's a hardware problem. Flash back to stock, unroot and go get a new one. If it works fine, re-download titanium back-up from the market and restore all your apps. From there it's just putting your widgets back on your home screen.
From here, you can search the forums for a kernel that works with the newest updates. If you read them, they'll tell you what they're compatible with. Remember do NOT use an AOSP kernel with a SENSE rom, that's just spells IDIOCY. Until you find a kernel that works, stick with the one that came with the rom because everyone knows that one works.
I hope this helps. As for the IRC chat, not all the experts are on all the time. If no one is online that can help when you get one, try getting a few hours earlier or a few hours later.

Best Android Build!

hi guys,i'm wondering,what is the best and stable Android build that u haved tested? i see alot of builds here but i dont know witch one to choose

All builds are pretty good, it really depends on your personal taste, and what you're looking for.
I'm running Not So Super Froyo Latest RLS, with 2.6.25 kernel by l1q1d, so far pretty good build.
Had several crashes the last 2 weeks, but all kernel related to phone sleeping, but minor data corruption (fixed by reinstalling the corrupted app, unless it's a system file then I just reinstall the build)

Krazy-Killa said:
All builds are pretty good, it really depends on your personal taste, and what you're looking for.
I'm running Not So Super Froyo Latest RLS, with 2.6.25 kernel by l1q1d, so far pretty good build.
Had several crashes the last 2 weeks, but all kernel related to phone sleeping, but minor data corruption (fixed by reinstalling the corrupted app, unless it's a system file then I just reinstall the build)
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exactly the same on polaris

phone
crashes on phone sleeping?

dany547 said:
crashes on phone sleeping?
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Probably due to me tinkering so much.. Some people have the issue others don't. lol

Krazy-Killa said:
All builds are pretty good, it really depends on your personal taste, and what you're looking for.
I'm running Not So Super Froyo Latest RLS, with 2.6.25 kernel by l1q1d, so far pretty good build.
Had several crashes the last 2 weeks, but all kernel related to phone sleeping, but minor data corruption (fixed by reinstalling the corrupted app, unless it's a system file then I just reinstall the build)
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your systems apps should not get corrupted, potentially minor data loss though because of the odexing process the classes.dex files are not kept in the dalvik cache. so the only thing that could have a problem is the launcher.
this is what the reboot protection was moving the dalvik to the sd so that way it wasnt kept on the system, since the sd does unmount when shutting down

for me the best is Fat Free Froyo with lastest 2.6.25 kernel from git.

The stability really comes from the .25 kernel as it is much more older and mature. My barebones build might work with .25? I haven't tested it but I recall someone saying it worked.

I don't think it will work since scooters cyanogen has a different libskia than other builds
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The stability really comes from the .25 kernel as it is much more older and mature. My barebones build might work with .25? I haven't tested it but I recall someone saying it worked.
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Oh I know, was just saying that someone said they got it to work so just saying it might work lol

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your systems apps should not get corrupted, potentially minor data loss though because of the odexing process the classes.dex files are not kept in the dalvik cache. so the only thing that could have a problem is the launcher.
this is what the reboot protection was moving the dalvik to the sd so that way it wasnt kept on the system, since the sd does unmount when shutting down
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Apparently that doesn't work for me, especially with the 2.6.32 kernel. No matter how I reboot (button, battery, actual menu option), almost all apps get corrupted, and the Framework gets completely shot the **** (no lock screens, unable to silence phone or turn on Airplane mode).
The Dalvik move to SD apparently doesn't work for me either, unless it's only on a certain build? I'm using Not So Super Froyo RLS18.

I must reflash rom every one -two day, its crash, not workink proceses, system its very slow, after restart phone not remember settings and sometimes delete any data. i test very much roms,

Best Android build is Warbyte Donut for me, very stable and all works fine and quickly, but it is Donut and I Need Froyo..

i see
i got instaled a Donut build,but the white screen and the file system coruption made me to switch back to Wm i'll w8 untill a new build will appeare

fat free
I've got the fat free froyo on kaiser with .32 kernel downloaded with atools.
It works fine with an sd system install (class 6). Fast and stable.
You can olso try system on nand and data on sd! I could not do this because my nand is corrupt....but the result was really good.

The problem you were having was caused by your kernel not the build
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i got instaled a Donut build,but the white screen and the file system coruption made me to switch back to Wm i'll w8 untill a new build will appeare
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no
no,the karnel was for my device

dany547 said:
no,the karnel was for my device
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Yes it was a kernel fault. Listen to people who are more knowledgeable than yourself. Next time install kernel from '25 branch which is stable and doesn,t suffer from white screens and data corruption. The kernel you used was experimental and it still doesnt work as well as we would want it to.

dany547 said:
no,the karnel was for my device
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people like you the, i know everything because i manage to get android booting on my windows mobile phone even though i looked at maybe 1 tutorial and read it half way. the flash first read 2nd type. are pretty much the entire reason why there hasnt been a new Not so super or fat free froyo.

-Arturo- said:
Yes it was a kernel fault. Listen to people who are more knowledgeable than yourself. Next time install kernel from '25 branch which is stable and doesn,t suffer from white screens and data corruption. The kernel you used was experimental and it still doesnt work as well as we would want it to.
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is u want to give me that Kernel i'll apreciate! my karnel was from l1q1d's page (2.6.32)

3 Incredible's dead - up to 5 now

So I've had two incredible's now fall in to a boot loop
(wiped, pulled battery, RUU'd, went back to s-on - nothing worked)
first one I had for about 8 months with no issues until now. they did
send me a replacement XD and it did the same thing!
Now my wifes phone is doing it :\
I'm just verifying - if I RUU/S-on/remove sd card - then it HAS to be a hardware issue right? nothing that I could have done?
[Further info if needed]
All had CWR 3.0.0.5 and were rooted via unrevoked

h0x90 said:
So I've had two incredible's now fall in to a boot loop
(wiped, pulled battery, RUU'd, went back to s-on - nothing worked)
first one I had for about 8 months with no issues until now. they did
send me a replacement XD and it did the same thing!
Now my wifes phone is doing it :\
I'm just verifying - if I RUU/S-on/remove sd card - then it HAS to be a hardware issue right? nothing that I could have done?
[Further info if needed]
All had CWR 3.0.0.5 and were rooted via unrevoked
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Were you using the same ROM or kernal each time?

It's the new cwm. It uses a different gscript setup. To a restore or flash incredible reengineered 2.3.1
If not that then I don't know. Did it happen after a Rom flash?
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well the first one was running Evervolv and had been for about 3 weeks.
it crashed during a phone call and never booted all the way again. (boot loop)
The second (This ones replacement) was running cm7 (Flashed it right as I got it) and worked fine the first day I had it (but I wasn't using it much that day) then it died while using the browser and fell victim to boot loopage.
The third one (my wifes phone) died about an hour later while using the browser but would still boot - but not stay on for very long. Especially if any sort of data was going on (like syncing with gmail). I figured since it was kind of working maybe it was the rom so I flashed s-on went back to stock 2.2 (ruu) where it now dies upon lock screen.
(or before sometimes)
[Ninja edit] Wifes phone had been running evervolv the amount same time as my first phone
all three were running latest CWM and had the default kernel for the rom they had. Also all 3 were flashed ruu and s-on including a clear storage for good measure (Verizon also had me do a factory reset come to think of it - before they would ship replacements)
Ianxcom said:
It's the new cwm. It uses a different gscript setup. To a restore or flash incredible reengineered 2.3.1
If not that then I don't know. Did it happen after a Rom flash?
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could cwm leave something behind that would continue the boot loop after ruu?
That would suck because I've already sent in one phone would hate for them
to find something like that ><

have you tryed downgrading? i know i was having alot of issues with the new cwm. im running chingys rom and after the downgrade everything is running smooth again. cwm 2.5.1.2 seems to be working better...

HandsomeRob2310 said:
have you tryed downgrading? i know i was having alot of issues with the new cwm. im running chingys rom and after the downgrade everything is running smooth again. cwm 2.5.1.2 seems to be working better...
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I've went complete stock everything (including recovery) and it didn't fix anything.
Have an update on the situation as well.
Verizon shipped me another 2 phones - both broken out of the box.
The first one just reboots over and over again and can't even enter recovery.
On the second device the speaker is blown -.-

Are you using the same or different SD card(s) amongst these failing devices?
The one you had running for 8 months, was that SD card at end of life?
Asking, as AOSP ROMs interact quite a bit more w/ the SD card than do Sense ROMs, so if your issues are all with AOSP ROMs, I suspect wonky SD card(s).

smtom said:
Are you using the same or different SD card(s) amongst these failing devices?
The one you had running for 8 months, was that SD card at end of life?
Asking, as AOSP ROMs interact quite a bit more w/ the SD card than do Sense ROMs, so if your issues are all with AOSP ROMs, I suspect wonky SD card(s).
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I got that SD back when I got the phone so I hope its not
at the end of its life span.
I've actually didn't bother putting the SD cards in this last batch
because they were showing issues immediately (without any modding)
Thanks for the info on AOSP roms that could help diagnose future problems

That would explain a lot, actually, as AOSP ROMs call the sd during boot.
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JB roms suddenly not working?

I'm just going to throw this out there for anyone who may know the answer, after searching for the last 3 days, I'm not finding anyone else having the same problem, so I'm thinking it may be something I did. Here's the issue.
I'm a confirmed flash-a-holic, and flash new roms or backups probably 2-3 times per week. I haven't tried any of the JB roms until recently, but dove in just before Nit's Viper Rom became available for ICS. I had installed the JB "global" rom, and had it working(ish), and then changed to the viper mod, then installed Aeroevan's "unofficial JB" when the 10/25 update on Goo.im came available. The install went smoothly and it worked great for about a day, then tanked big time when I tried to change the launcher from Trebuchet to Nova (I can't even guess why THAT had anything to do with it). It started lagging big time and then boot looping. Now, upon trying to wipe everything (factory reset/cache/dalvik/all partitions but sd), I get nothing but boot loops and NONE of the JB roms will install. From my reading, I know others get boot loops, but after a sequence, finally get into setup. Mine will too after 5-6 boot loops minimum, but the screen freezes on the initial setup screen and it's completely unusable (touch screen unresponsive). I don't get why that is when I HAD it installed the other day and it was very responsive (using Aeroevan's JB mod). I WAS using the 4EXT recovery when I started doing all of this, then switched recoveries to the most recent TWRP, and it allowed me to install Aeroevan's JB mod, and even start the setup, but very soon started lagging and then the boot loops again. At this point, I'm sortof at a loss, and the only thing I can think of is that maybe I should NOT have been wiping the sd partitions and SHOULD have only been wiping cache/dalvik/factory reset. At the moment, anyway all ICS mods are flashing/running just fine (currently on Nit's Vipermod and really liking it btw), but if anyone knows where I went astray, I'd appreciate any pointers. Thanks all, this is by far the best forum I have been a part of!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805773&page=117

Oh boy..... Be sure and post back if you find a solution, glad I'm not the only one! I thought I did this to myself... which I guess I sortof did if you get technical.
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I had the same problem but was told to flash new radio and it stopped bootlooping and everything went back to normal....

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I had the same problem but was told to flash new radio and it stopped bootlooping and everything went back to normal....
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Which radio did you flash?

Ok, I made headway by reverting TWRP recovery back to 4ext's newest recovery, restored my oldest original stock GB backup with ext3 partitions which was originally a CWM recovery. I let it run after install for about 10 minutes without updating anything, then 4Ext wiped data, cache/dalvik, system. I then reformatted all partitions back to 4ext and then wiped everything again even fixing permissions. Then I tried a fresh install to Aeroevan's unofficial CM10 from 10/25 and gapps from 10/11. Install went smoothly and booted first time with no boot loops. I'm using it right now and I'm back in the butter again..... for now at least. If I take a turn for the worst, I'll post back.
Ok, well, scratch that, I am having the same problems a couple of other guys are having in the cm10 dev thread. I'm only able to run sense roms, original stock, UKBII, etc, no ICS or JB roms work, incredibly laggy and bootlooping endlessly. I have never had this much trouble flashing roms, I do it all the time. Sadly, it started when I flashed the viper rom, and I don't even have a copy of it to re-flash now since I wiped my card and it wasn't backed up on my computer (I think I must've downloaded it from my phone). I have spent WAY too much time on this, so am now relegated to only lurking here until someone can find a solution that's not just "firing down the well" like I've been doing since this started.

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Ok, I made headway by reverting TWRP recovery back to 4ext's newest recovery, restored my oldest original stock GB backup with ext3 partitions which was originally a CWM recovery. I let it run after install for about 10 minutes without updating anything, then 4Ext wiped data, cache/dalvik, system. I then reformatted all partitions back to 4ext and then wiped everything again even fixing permissions. Then I tried a fresh install to Aeroevan's unofficial CM10 from 10/25 and gapps from 10/11. Install went smoothly and booted first time with no boot loops. I'm using it right now and I'm back in the butter again..... for now at least. If I take a turn for the worst, I'll post back.
Ok, well, scratch that, I am having the same problems a couple of other guys are having in the cm10 dev thread. I'm only able to run sense roms, original stock, UKBII, etc, no ICS or JB roms work, incredibly laggy and bootlooping endlessly. I have never had this much trouble flashing roms, I do it all the time. Sadly, it started when I flashed the viper rom, and I don't even have a copy of it to re-flash now since I wiped my card and it wasn't backed up on my computer (I think I must've downloaded it from my phone). I have spent WAY too much time on this, so am now relegated to only lurking here until someone can find a solution that's not just "firing down the well" like I've been doing since this started.
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On follow-up, I read mixed opinions about the wisdom of using TiBu on restores, assuming I'm able to ever recover this my thinking is that one could use TiBu to restore apps ONLY and NO data and that would/should not cause a problem (assuming you're restoring a backup from within your installed ROM's file structure .i.e., JB/ICS/GB)? Also, I use My Backup Pro to restore call/MMS/texts only, that oughta be safe too shouldn't it?

I had a similar issue last night. never had problems flashing from viper to cm10 till yesterday. I've flashed back and forth about 3 times until I flashed the leaked 4.2 camera with sphere camera on aero cm10 Halloween build. I was playing around with the sphere camera and attempted to get it to actually finish loading the pics together by overclocking to 1.4mhz and I ended up pulling the battery. it boot looped very slow and laggy after. I did a full wipe, fresh install of aeros cm10 from twrp and got the same thing. So I recovered viper Rom from twrp , booted, then did a full wipe and install of cm10 and still boot loops laggy. I did not have the overclock settings "set at boot" ticked when I put it to 1.4mhz. odd indeed
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So... I was having no issues until today's huge headache. I was on cm10 10-25 and it worked great. Dirty flashed to 31 and it all went to hell. Slowed to a crawl so restarted to recovery to fix permission. Restarted and it kept restarting. I got some failure message when it would boot. Don't recall what it was.
I then tried 3 different recoveries and also full wipes and fresh flashes of 3 different roms. Same loop result basically. Finally an old recovery worked and I'm on a month old mrom version now. Soo... any thoughts on what the heck happened? I did nothing out of the ordinary. I was worried I somehow bricked but obviously not since I'm sending this on my phone. Kinda freaked to do anything right now... any thoughts or help/ideas?
PS... I just use the basic cwm and only cwm for my recoveries.
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Ukb wont boot here.
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so I got aeros 10/31 build to boot after taking 10 min to finish the start up set-up. it was extremely laggy, it would random restart a few times. I played around with over clocking then under clocking but the cpu was maxed out 24/7. I'm assuming this is what is causing the extreme lag. I changed the governor to on demand and it started to act normal and not lag out. so I used it for awhile then I decided to change the cpu governor back to smartassv2 and then I was back to lag and the cpu was maxxed again... can't recreate the scenario cuz it doesn't boot now...
my conclusion is it has to due with the kernel and cpu governors on JB. I've tried aeros jb 12, 13,14,and 15 kernel and also Evans kernel with no luck on getting the cpu not to b maxed out... hope this helps solve the issue
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fen0m said:
so I got aeros 10/31 build to boot after taking 10 min to finish the start up set-up. it was extremely laggy, it would random restart a few times. I played around with over clocking then under clocking but the cpu was maxed out 24/7. I'm assuming this is what is causing the extreme lag. I changed the governor to on demand and it started to act normal and not lag out. so I used it for awhile then I decided to change the cpu governor back to smartassv2 and then I was back to lag and the cpu was maxxed again... can't recreate the scenario cuz it doesn't boot now...
my conclusion is it has to due with the kernel and cpu governors on JB. I've tried aeros jb 12, 13,14,and 15 kernel and also Evans kernel with no luck on getting the cpu not to b maxed out... hope this helps solve the issue
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Someone just threw down on the info. Sounds like I will be flashing the latest mrom. Not gonna repeat the horror of my recent cm10 fiasco. Thanks for this.
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Unfortunately I too am finding it near impossible to flash any ICS/JB ROM. The closest I've gotten is the Google sign-in on Andromadus Mimicry, but that practically slows to a halt when signing in. As of now I'm on Condemned CM7 and I must say I REALLY miss Google Music.
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Unfortunately I too am finding it near impossible to flash any ICS/JB ROM. The closest I've gotten is the Google sign-in on Andromadus Mimicry, but that practically slows to a halt when signing in. As of now I'm on Condemned CM7 and I must say I REALLY miss Google Music.
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Try installing 4ext recovery. Format system, data, cache to ext3 like 3 times. Flash tunnas global cm10 rom
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Baby mamas INC 2 has been having same issues. I have to believe it had something to do with her being on the ICS leak from back in September with the 320 radio. I went as far as to getting back to compete stock with s-off. Got back to 2.3.3, got CWM and root. Hopefully I can try getting her phone back on CM9-10 cuz she really misses it and we were having EXACT problems stated above. Boot loops, touch screen not responsive, wallpaper would change out of nowhere, lock screen would be black with nothing but hardware buttons lighting up. Thank GOD for these devs and their work to get back to stock or I would have thrown this POS out the window lol.
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A2Trip said:
Baby mamas INC 2 has been having same issues. I have to believe it had something to do with her being on the ICS leak from back in September with the 320 radio. I went as far as to getting back to compete stock with s-off. Got back to 2.3.3, got CWM and root. Hopefully I can try getting her phone back on CM9-10 cuz she really misses it and we were having EXACT problems stated above. Boot loops, touch screen not responsive, wallpaper would change out of nowhere, lock screen would be black with nothing but hardware buttons lighting up. Thank GOD for these devs and their work to get back to stock or I would have thrown this POS out the window lol.
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I did the revert a while back for some other issues and didn't have any trouble getting aeroevan's CM10 up and running. I haven't had any issues with it other than the persistent bugs which are no problem for me. I don't think these issues have anything to do with the radio, but with the way the stuff is getting flashed. You might try a different recovery. I have had success with TWRP and CWM (as installed from ROM Manager, not touch) restored from a backup for me, but I didn't install using CWM.

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Try installing 4ext recovery. Format system, data, cache to ext3 like 3 times. Flash tunnas global cm10 rom
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Did these things ....even Stunna's CM10 was laggy beyond belief. Back to gb.....again.
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Don't know what to tell you. I switched to 4ext ran CDMA miui for a week and I was able to flash cm10 with no issues.
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Did these things ....even Stunna's CM10 was laggy beyond belief. Back to gb.....again.
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+1... seems like only Sence ROMs have been working on my girls Inc. 2. Viper seems fine for now... But her phone must literately hate CM9 and 10...7 works fine too. Not quite sure why these issues have been going on to few of us but I'm almost certain it will not be solved... On the move...
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hey guys I fixed my Inc 2 with jb ics lag/ boot looping issues.
check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987051
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