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Nandriod...

what is it, where can i find it, why can't I find it anywhere on market or google? is it better than clockwork backup/restore?

I assume you are trying to make a nandroid backup? This can be done thru clockwork recovery. It is making a backup of the NAND, or flash memory in which the system/data is stored on.

Haha
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I actually had to research that early on, so don't feel bad
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Now that's funny.
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This thread is failtastic
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We were all new at some point guys...
To the OP:
1: Boot into Clockwork Recovery.
2: Go down to Backup And Restore
3: Press Backup.
4: Wait about 3minutes til it completes.
Thats what they call a Nandroid Backup. Its not an app or anything like that.
We make Nandroid backups incase we mess up our phones, we just restore it if were able to get into clockwork.
If you dont have Clockworkmod installed, go to the sticky in Android Development for the Epic and follow the guide.
PM me if you need any more help than that. I remember being a noob as well.
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so to sum it up, if you're planning on jumping from rom to rom to theme to kernel,
having a nandroid backup is like using a condom.
which you should, cuz u never know.
Stay in school.

Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Yup, if you go to backup and restore you can see it says "Nandroid" at the top of the screen. Hence Nandroid Backup.
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Always, always make a full backup prior to making any "major" change (rom, kernel, theme). I archive my backups on my server to keep from cluttering up the sd card and only carry the last backup on the sd.
You can also restore just data or just cache if you do a full wipe (i.e., for a rom flash) and don't want to deal with titanium (advanced restore) - saved my ass on a couple bad downloads/beta roms.
Also, welcome to the wonderful (and addicting) world of modding
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addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.

petrafan007 said:
addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.
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DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.

brianbrain said:
DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.
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He either meant to say DK17 Kernel, or DK05 Modem.
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yes, sorry, kernel

i always saw that option before but didnt know what it acully did untill now

Update a Rooted HTC Evo with stock Rom to Gingerbread

Will I be able to Update a Rooted HTC Evo with stock Froyo 2.2 Rom to Gingerbread 2.3 through sprint update ?
I rooted my phone with UnrEVOked about 2 weeks ago , so I'm still in a learning the hole rooting process .
Thank you 4 the help & info u guys here in XDA provide , keep up the good work .
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Sure, but you'll lose root. Just wait until a developer cooks gingerbread into your favorite ROM.

fmedina2 said:
Sure, but you'll lose root. Just wait until a developer cooks gingerbread into your favorite ROM.
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And since the source code comes out tomorrow, you probably won't be waiting long

Cool thx
Is there a way to install a custom Rom without losing data ?
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oranium said:
Cool thx
Is there a way to install a custom Rom without losing data ?
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You should always wipe when flashing a new ROM. Just back up all your apps with titanium backup or mybackup pro. Your contacts should be back up'd by Google.

No. well you can use apps like Titanium Backup, that you can use to backup any apps and their data, but other than that, you just need to sign back in to e-mail and gmail and fb,twitter, ect...

Use your Nandroid
oranium said:
Cool thx
Is there a way to install a custom Rom without losing data ?
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If you're fully rooted with recovery, reboot your phone while holding the volume down button and you should be in either the Amon-Ra or Clockworkmod recovery.
From there explore your menus a bit, and you'll find a place to do a Nandroid backup.
Do that - it will literally back up everything - your kernel, your stock ROM, your apps, your data, all to a nandroid image file on your SDCard.
Then you can wipe everything in your recovery and flash whatever you want.
Now you can play with other ROMS, learn to flash alternatives and such, and if you ever need/want to go back to how it was, just go back into recovery and choose a Nandroid restore.

Also if you use clockwork nand you can restore your apps after youve changed the rom. Flash your current rom first, then wipe everything the new rom needs you to. After flashing the new rom to the nandroid and select advanced restore. Select data and your done. Reboot and enjoy.
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If your going to back up your rom to flash another one use RA recovery to wipe and backup your phone. Clockworkmod does not do a proper wipe of your phone and will leave remnants of your old rom on your phone.
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I havent had any issues and I flash almost once a week. To each its own.
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I lost u guys . Lol ;-)
I'm new to this & not sure exactly how to do it .
I rooted my Evo with UnrEVOked 3
& using the stock 2.2 Froyo Rom
I followed the rooting process from a YouTube video & I did back up during the root process .
I'm not sure what's a nandroid & I think I had to go through some part that had clockwork mod but again as I said I'm not sure what it is . ( I'm sill a rookie with this sorry )
What should I do next ? Did I back up the stock Rom properly via UnrEVOked 3 rooting method ?
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Google nandroid backup. You'll probably be able to find alot of info on youtube as well
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[Q] Evo Root Fail

Today I tried the new method to obtain S-off and root my 2.3.3 Evo. All went fine but now my phone will only boot into the clockwork recovery tool. How can I fix my phone or get it back to normal?

Have you tried to flash a ROM?
You can try to download and flash a ROM from this site.
Also can you get to your bootloader by pressing volume down and power if so you can find an ruu to put on your sd to put you back to stock.
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I tried to flash a cm7 but I got a status error 7 so I am downloading synergy now.

Make sure you wipe everything but sdcard.
Also its possible you got a bad download I also recommend using Amon ra 2.3
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I tried installing Synergy but I got the following messages:
assert failed: write_raw_image_("/tmp/boot.img","boot")
E:Error in /sdcard/Synergy-RLS1-supersonic.zip (status 7)

You might have a bad dl are you downloading from your phone on 3g.
And you should try this recovery I had nothing but problems with cwm when I first rooted and went to ra and never looked back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
You can also try flashing this before you flash a ROM it will wipe for you and don't worry it won't wipe your sdcard.
http://www.virusrom.com/Tools/VR_SUPERWIPE.zip
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I've been downloading on my computer from my home network. I was able to install my the Rom from it!!! Thank you so much! If I wanted to try on another rom what all would i need to wipe?

rdmjspeed said:
I've been downloading on my computer from my home network. I was able to install my the Rom from it!!! Thank you so much! If I wanted to try on another rom what all would i need to wipe?
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First thing first make a nandroid backup then you can download that vr-superwipe I posted but I'm not really 100% if that works in cwm recovery but when you wipe wipe everything but your sdcard well you don't really have to wipe stats but I don't even think that option is in cwm.
You should really think about switching to Amon ra 2.3 if you haven't you can even flash it from ROM Manager.
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I got Synergy to work and I am beyond pleased with it. Thank you for your incredible help!

rdmjspeed said:
I got Synergy to work and I am beyond pleased with it. Thank you for your incredible help!
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No problem.
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Sorry for bringing this dumb thread back to the top but I couldn't start a whole new thread for one of my stupid questions. I wanted to know if a nandroid backup backs up everything? Like, could I do a back up then wipe my entire phone of everything, install a new rom, and then go back to my old rom from loading the backup?

rdmjspeed said:
Sorry for bringing this dumb thread back to the top but I couldn't start a whole new thread for one of my stupid questions. I wanted to know if a nandroid backup backs up everything? Like, could I do a back up then wipe my entire phone of everything, install a new rom, and then go back to my old rom from loading the backup?
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yes as long as you backup everything then it will restore just make sure to backup everything I'm not sure what recovery you use.
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I'm using the recovery listed earlier in this thread. The one a previous user directed me towards. Thank You sooo much!!!

rdmjspeed said:
I'm using the recovery listed earlier in this thread. The one a previous user directed me towards. Thank You sooo much!!!
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oh I just looked back that was me lol.
Yeah just make sure to backup android-secure and sdext if your partitioned and you should be good thats the whole point of a backup.
Editlus the ones that come checked already data/boot/system etc..
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Haha it was! I guess I really owe you now. Thanks so much!!!

rdmjspeed said:
Haha it was! I guess I really owe you now. Thanks so much!!!
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yes you should be able to do that

ECO5 help

I am new to rooting the Epic 4g, but not new to rooting in general. I had an HTC Hero (cdma) and am now on the Evo 4g. I understand all the terminology associated with rooting/flashing, etc, however, the Epic is a little different. I just rooted my wife's ECO5 Epic using the most recent One-Click method and everything worked great. The first thing I did was make a backup. I would like to flash Syndicate Frozen 1.2 but am a little confused on this whole files system jargon as it isn't existent or an option on the EVO. My questions are as follows: If I flash Syndicate Rom 1.2 and the Genocide kernel, I understand that it will convert my files system to Ext4 automatically, but if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock? Or do I need to ODIN back to stock and reset up my whole system as I had it prior? I see that the One-Click 3.1.0.1 method I used has dual file system support. What does that all impact? Just new roms or my current ROM. I have done a bunch of research but haven't been comfortable in my findings enough to start flashing. Can someone please clarify this for me?

I believe there are scripts available to convert between the two file systems, in both directions.
That said, EXT4 is the way to go imo. Don't be shy about it. Sfr 1.2 is top rom in my book. Do take the time to go get the other goodies as well. Hotspot hack, and the supercharger script. It's all amazing when it comes together.
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Clockworkmod 3.1.0.1 does not restore filesystem type (ext4, rfs). You can either odin back to rfs or flash a .zip in Clockworkmod. Also, if you have access to odin, there is NO WAY you can brick your phone. It will ALWAYS be recoverable.
(unless you intentionally brick it, there are ways)

So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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legasus233 said:
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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Best to restore first and do the conversion, but there is no reason you can't restore after. Although I usually do advanced restore data between file systems myself.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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If I remember right, stock runs on ext4. As long as you have a different kernel. Stock kernel does NOT run on ext4.

legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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That is 2 different questions. One no stock kernel is RFS. Two, restore as I mentioned before, advanced restore data only and you will be fine. You may have to set up your accounts but that is about it.
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I think i need to ask the question differently. Right now, all that I have done since getting her the phone is complete the One-click root 3.1.0.1. I then made a backup. I haven't done anything else or made any changes. If I now flash Syndicate 1.2 frozen but want to return to my backup, are you suggesting I don't need to ODIN back to stock, but simply advance restore in recovery? Sorry for being an idiot about this guys, but like I said, I am an Evo flashaholic and its taking me some getting used to speaking Epic language! Plus, I would hate to flub something up since its my wife's phone!
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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I would not start with SRF 1.2. Because you also need to flash a kernel. Start by flashing a ROM that comes with a kernel. If it is for someone else keep it simple like ReRFS ROM. I would not even do EXT4 unless you are sure you have journaling enabled. The first freeze, drop or battery pull will cause Force Closes galore. Unless you are planning on supporting that phone constantly, keep it simple. And yes most times restore works fine without goling back to Odin.
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legasus233 said:
I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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90% of the time it will restore just fine.
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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legasus233 said:
Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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kennyglass123 said:
Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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ugothakd said:
The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.

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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.

ugothakd said:
I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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He further confused me later on but going by the OP, then you are right and the best bet at that point is to Odin a prerooted stock ROM like EC05plus to save a step and then restore everything if he didn't like SRF 1.2 and Genocide.
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[Q] looking to switch roms? currently running jellybomb

Im new all this rooting and rom stuff and yesterday morning i successfully rooted and inststalled the jellybomb 14.0.0 jelly bean rom thanks to qbking77's on point videos. so the question is... how can i switch which rom im running? i like the jellybeen roms and im looking to explore more to see which better suits my needs. ive heard of doing clean/dirtry instals or something of the sort but i want the best and safest way possible so i dont run into any bricking trouble. please help?

Ok, read up on how to flash a recovery
Download the rom of your choice and place it.on your sdcard. Once you do that you can install roms by booting into recovery and finding the zip for the rom you want to flash and selecting it through the "install zip from sdcard" option
Now a clean install is whenyou wipe all partitions, aka blocks of your phones memory, (details farther down) and then install the rom zip. This method minimizes the chances for problems to occur after installing
A clean flash involves:
Formatting system
Formatting / Clearing data (also known as a factory reset)
Wiping cache
Wiping / Clearing dalvik cache
Now a dirty flash is when you just flash the new rom zip over whatever you're currently rumning, without clearing anything. This method is only recommended when flashing an updated version of the same rom, and even then, the nature of some updates can require you to do a clean flash.
One more thing, DO NOT flash any roms, mods, or zips for the international version. That usa surefire way to brick your debice because the partitions are completely different.
To learn more about how android and this.stuff works, I would suggest heading over to xda,university.com

Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Roni P. said:
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Backup via CWM (RECOVERY) is mainly for restoring the same rom or going back to the rom you were running if experimenting, Now, can use apps such as Titanium backup to save all the other settings, apps and things. Once you flash your new rom, download it, open program and can restore your stuff that way. Personally, I'll wipe, start from scratch, sometimes i'll download an app i never use, and it just allows me to clear out the useless ones.. Happy flashing!

Roni P. said:
Thanks for the info. What is the best way to back everything up? I backed everything up wen I installed th jb. Rom and went to restore and couldnt find anythingband had to start from scratch.
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Yes as said above, a backup through recovery (also called a "nandroid" ) stores an EXACT image of the current state of your device. Meaning all data, all system files, all apps, radios, etc. Backing up through an app, like Titanium Backup, only backs up certain things like apps and app data
Basically, if you're trying any experimental stuff that may break your system (for example, flashing a new modem or testing to see if a certain kernel works), then a nandroid is the way to go because you can restore to an exact image of a state when everything was working

Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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Press volume up home button and then power button don't let go till Samsung screen comes up bought 10 ish sec. Once let go phone should go into cwm, clock work mod recovery. See if you have that first
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Roni P. said:
Yea I did that the 1st time and couldnt recover anything. Is there a certain way I should recover or maybe I did something wrong? Im not sure. Sorry if im sounding stupid but I cant return my phone if I screw it up so im tryin to be as safe as possible. Hopefully thats understandable
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No no, its recovery
The recovery is basically something that allows you to install zips, it doesnt actually have much to do with recovering anything lol
But first do what was suggested right above me to check to see if you have a recovery installed
To get a more detailed description of what a recovery is and what it does, you can get over to xda-university and read through the "as user" section on recoveries

Think cwm has saved a few phones on here. Me I don't use a pc. Easy just with phone. If he's deleted his folder should he recoveR then it would bring that folder bk?
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Well yea I kno I have a recovery I use cwm... I jus need to kno how I can actually save my phones content... I dont wanna start fresh everytime I decide to flash a new rom
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OK titanium bkup. But don't restore all things if your backing up at lot as will save 4.1.2 4.2.1 and 4.2 2 and so on. Don't want to mix as fc will happen
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