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Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..
sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.
Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go
Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?
Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.
I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?
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The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!
Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave
i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
slaming said:
i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
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well if you have seen many vidoes how to do it then wheres the problem ?
the problem is i follow what they do and it doesn't work i think the problem is that it doesn't actually have home installed on it i've looked thru all of the applications and its not there is there anyway to install it?
Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
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Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
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umm desire is cheaper
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
slaming said:
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
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Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
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Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
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are there any for 2.1? because i couldn't find the others you suggested
You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
Karolis said:
You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
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Complete Android noob here please explain
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
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I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
Karolis said:
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
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i've just downloaded launcher2.apk and now just to finish this phone call then i'm gonna test this out will report back. i feel like a crash test dummy lol
You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
ok default launcher 2 doesn't work gonna try the other one mentioned now
Renco said:
You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
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just tried it it works seems a bit laggy but i think now i might just stick with sense as the only thing i prefer with nexus is the lock screen. anyway to get that on sense?
you also loose all the nice widgets so i'm gonna stick with sense for the moment.
thanks for all your help guys.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Dude what I was saying was that I had seen alot of tutorials on How to do it and followed them but it didn't work so you probably just miss understood. We all do at times dw about it
video of how to do it here, let us know if it works out for you
http://home.leakdroid.com/2010/03/turn-off-htc-sense-in-a-few-simple-steps-on-the-htc-desire/
Hey,
I really don't like the gingerbread keyboard and i found a topic with htc_ime mod keyboard. But, this htc keyboard does not work on gingerbread.
Somebody got a working version?
This one: Click me!
phunkycow said:
This one: Click me!
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Do you have one with arrows??
Thanks!!
going to try this.. i really do hate the gingerbread keybourd
phunkycow said:
This one: Click me!
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is there a guide somewhere on how to translate their keyboard?
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Do you have one with arrows??
Thanks!!
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I'm using the gingerbread keyboard from the market and if you long hold space bar and drag up, you might be able to get some arrows
You could use ultra keyboard with the HTC skin, it looks the same and it more customisable.
I must have spent three hours looking for this today. Thank you so very much whoever modded this for gingerbread.
where i can find the htc skin for ultra keyboard?
I was looking for the same thing came across this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916686
The HTC IME from the addons section works on cm7.0.3!
The only thing is I wanted a pure HTC IME skin, but this one is custom themed. Anybody ideas how I can get it unthemed? I tried repacking it with apktool with graphics from HTC_IME_hi v27 but it didn't work. AppInstaller kept staying application not installed without an explanation as to why
thanks button = poked
Got my new SE Neo yesterday and hated the keyboard, tried a couple of the versions on Gimpsta's sight as this is what I had had on my X10 but wouldn't work. Should have known to check here first, thank you for making my nice new phone now perfect.
Thanks for posting!!
Gonna give this a try on my G2X running 2.3.3, hope this works!
DHD_HTC_IME.apk
u can try this one
Overloaded said:
Hey,
I really don't like the gingerbread keyboard and i found a topic with htc_ime mod keyboard. But, this htc keyboard does not work on gingerbread.
Somebody got a working version?
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watch this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32449727&postcount=11266
just take the apk file (from the 28b version) and install it (is better if installed in the internal storage)! than go to :
Settings---> language and keyboard ---> select htc_ime
I have seached every where to find a keyboard like the sense one that comes stock for evo to run on CM7. I have found the htc_ime kitchen which is pretty close but they dont have the arrow buttons to move the cursor.
Anyone have any idea where i can get a keyboard with arrow buttons to move the cursor for CM7?
The arrows are Sense only, I think. Some of the 3rd party keyboards may have the arrows, though.
However, I use the HTC_IME keyboard in CM7/MIUI with no issues. You can set the volume rocker keys to move the cursor back and forth.
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The arrows are Sense only, I think. Some of the 3rd party keyboards may have the arrows, though.
However, I use the HTC_IME keyboard in CM7/MIUI with no issues. You can set the volume rocker keys to move the cursor back and forth.
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I will dig this, because there's no still any IME mod with cursor keys, and I believe it can be done, we just need gingerbread base for this one, not the foryo's, and maybe more, I don't know, but it should be possible. There are much more ppl who will use it.
By the way, "swipe" actions allow to move a word back and forth. It's not the same, but may ease your life.
SwiftKey X has Cursor arrows
Edit: nvermind lost
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HipKat said:
SwiftKey X has Cursor arrows
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I know, but it's worse than IME. That;s why I look for IME with arrows
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SwiftKey X has Cursor arrows
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I was going to say that but try Swiftkey beta 3.its pretty awesomer and i think u can add the arrows as a add-on
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I was going to say that but try Swiftkey beta 3.its pretty awesomer and i think u can add the arrows as a add-on
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Again, Swiftkey X is worse. I see no other Swiftkeys in the market. By the way, Swiftkey is not free. Sense is... I had it on my phone as a factory default, so not discussing the licensing too deeply, it's like it would be free ;>. I just would like HTC DHD IME ported to CM7, or something very, very similar in the layout and features.
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Again, Swiftkey X is worse. I see no other Swiftkeys in the market. By the way, Swiftkey is not free. Sense is... I had it on my phone as a factory default, so not discussing the licensing too deeply, it's like it would be free ;>. I just would like HTC DHD IME ported to CM7, or something very, very similar in the layout and features.
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Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about swiftkey? I've tried out just about every keyboard there is over the last few years and I keep coming back to swiftkey x. The customizations, themes and predictions are top notch imo.
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Just out of curiosity, what don't you like about swiftkey? I've tried out just about every keyboard there is over the last few years and I keep coming back to swiftkey x. The customizations, themes and predictions are top notch imo.
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Layout is worse. Some functions are not present (don't remember which ones, tested quite a few weeks ago). It's not free, it's a trial only which will stop working at some point leaving a user which used to it with a choice of paying or getting used to another - not worth of the time if you won't like it, if you will, then it's just a luck. It would be much better to make featureless free version than time limited trial (called "free" in the market by the way - not very polite to lie...)
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Layout is worse. Some functions are not present (don't remember which ones, tested quite a few weeks ago). It's not free, it's a trial only which will stop working at some point leaving a user which used to it with a choice of paying or getting used to another - not worth of the time if you won't like it, if you will, then it's just a luck. It would be much better to make featureless free version than time limited trial (called "free" in the market by the way - not very polite to lie...)
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To each their own, I suppose. I find that the location of the comma and period on the main screen (without having to long press or go to a page 2) makes this one of the best layouts out there.
happy hunting!
Dannyman23 said:
To each their own, I suppose. I find that the location of the comma and period on the main screen (without having to long press or go to a page 2) makes this one of the best layouts out there.
happy hunting!
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Yep, I maybe just used to it too much, but it's too late now ;P. Thanks, but I do not know honestly I will stay with CM, so maybe I will just switch back to Sense... CM is buggy .
krzych said:
Yep, I maybe just used to it too much, but it's too late now ;P. Thanks, but I do not know honestly I will stay with CM, so maybe I will just switch back to Sense... CM is buggy .
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If you are looking for another option outside of sense, I've been running Decks reloaded for a few weeks now and it is awesome. I've had trouble with CM being buggy in the past, and I get bored on sense roms but this sucker is slick and FAST. I've been flashing roms on this baby for nearly 2 years now and this is by far the fastest and most stable rom I have ever run:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661605
Of course, this doesn't help your keyboard issue
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If you are looking for another option outside of sense, I've been running Decks reloaded for a few weeks now and it is awesome. I've had trouble with CM being buggy in the past, and I get bored on sense roms but this sucker is slick and FAST. I've been flashing roms on this baby for nearly 2 years now and this is by far the fastest and most stable rom I have ever run:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1661605
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Heheh, thanks, but it seems it doesn't help at all - I have HTC Desire HD, and there's nothing about Decks working on my phone
Like the title says, can someone please remove these damn arrow keys in the HTC keyboard? I like the keyboard, but hate the stupid arrow keys at the bottom, they take up too much room!
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Like the title says, can someone please remove these damn arrow keys in the HTC keyboard? I like the keyboard, but hate the stupid arrow keys at the bottom, they take up too much room!
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i second that too...thnx
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Like the title says, can someone please remove these damn arrow keys in the HTC keyboard? I like the keyboard, but hate the stupid arrow keys at the bottom, they take up too much room!
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And a third from me
Have ya guys tried any 3rd party keyboards? They work great too.
I recommend thumb keyboard..
if someone posts the apk, ill remove the arrows from the potrait keyboard, i dont get my HOX till monday , id rather download an .apk than a whole rom
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if someone posts the apk, ill remove the arrows from the potrait keyboard, i dont get my HOX till monday , id rather download an .apk than a whole rom
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I will try and post the apk when i get to work today..... shhhhh don't tell my boss lol..
MasK said:
Have ya guys tried any 3rd party keyboards? They work great too.
I recommend thumb keyboard..
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Yea i've tried third party keyboard. I like the ICS keyboard personally but thumb keyboard is great. I still have an issue where it double presses some letters which becomes annoying.
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if someone posts the apk, ill remove the arrows from the potrait keyboard, i dont get my HOX till monday , id rather download an .apk than a whole rom
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And here you are.
A feature of the old modded htc ime ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416 ) which i used to use on my hd2 was that you could set the volume + to be right arrow and volume - to be left arrow (or it may have been the other way around?). This was a great feature as that keyboard had no arrows either, so less space usage, but still had the ease of being able to quickly jump back a few spaces to correct a mistake. The magnify popup is sooooo slow to use when your in a hurry.
If this were possible with this keyboard it would be great.
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Good work bud, hopefully we can get someone to hack those arrow keys off for us!
is this apk from a deodexed rom?, i ask because there is no classes.dex in this apk
EDIT: ok this isnt the .apk that was posted, but one i downloaded, this is from de odexed rom, i cannot/dont know how to edit a odexed .apk
need some one to test as i cannot test it, hopefully it will work , have removed arrow keys for portrait mode only , but for all languages , and for , p12, p20 and qwerty keyboards, if this doesnt work, i will not have another go at it till i get my device on monday, so i can test b4 uploading
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is this apk from a deodexed rom?, i ask because there is no classes.dex in this apk
EDIT: ok this isnt the .apk that was posted, but one i downloaded, this is from de odexed rom, i cannot/dont know how to edit a odexed .apk
need some one to test as i cannot test it, hopefully it will work , have removed arrow keys for potrait mode only , but for all languages , and for , p12, p20 and qwerty keyboards, if this doesnt work, i will not have another go at it till i get my device on monday, so i can test b4 uploading
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Doesn't work here. Pushed it to system app and rebooted. Now I don't have HTC ime any more.. was I supposed to delete the original apk or not? Asking cause I did
Edit: Got my HTC ime back..with arrows
in my experience, you need to touch the edit box for the keyboard 3 times, if the mod i did is all ok this should happen:
1st time will bring up the voice
2nd time will close the voice
3rd time should bring up the keyboard
if the mod i did isnt ok
1st time will bring up the voice
2nd time the voice will start to translate...and turn blue
i have always just pushed via adb without deleteing the original .apk
also, sorry guys that this didnt work, its hard to test without a device..hopefully mine might come today, but probably monday
To be honest I don't know which edit box you are talking about
I now have both ime, yours and original. But this is how it looks like.. neither of the two imes appears at keyboard choice.
Maybe we better wait till you've got your device
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..hopefully mine might come today, but probably monday
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Hey ali3nfr3ak,
Any news about your device?
Wondering if you're still trying to get this keyboard managed..
Cheers Pete
Use swiftkey X... It's the best keyboard i've tried!
doesnt work with ARHD 6 heres the apk in rom if it helps
Thanks