[Q] OTA vs. RUU question - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Reading through the forum here I see that using the RUU that ws leaked earlier wipes out your installed apps, and makes you reinstall them. Also.. the RUU is 178MB.. here are my questions:
1) Would the OTA wipe out all my instaleld apps and force me to reinstall them like the RUU apparently does?
2) If I wait for the OTA, is it going to download to internal phone memory or to my SD card? Does it get erased after installation?
3) Since the RUU is a Windows executable file.. and is alledgedly the OTA.. can I just put this on my SD card and execute it somehow without the use of my PC? (Yeah, I'm expecting some flamage for that one.. even sounded stupid to myself as I was typing it.)
Yes, I'm as noob as a noob can be at this stage, so I apologize if this comes off as totally ignorant. I would love to get the best out of my phone, and the big lack of love from Big Red has me seriously considering root even though I am deeply afraid of brickage.

The ota and the leak are the same, I can 100% confirm that. I'd presume if the ruu wipes your info, so will the ota. Just like flashing a Rom or anything else that changes the OS. So be prepared for that.
The ota is not going to your SD, it'll just download into phone memory and install from there, similar to the .exe on a pc.
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Ugh
patches152 said:
The ota and the leak are the same, I can 100% confirm that. I'd presume if the ruu wipes your info, so will the ota. Just like flashing a Rom or anything else that changes the OS. So be prepared for that.
The ota is not going to your SD, it'll just download into phone memory and install from there, similar to the .exe on a pc.
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Yikes.
1) Cannot confirm until the update is actually pushed; if they decide to fix another bug and not release tomorrow, then I guess it wasn't 100% confirmed.
2) OTA will likely NOT erase your settings/programs; RUU definitely will.

so if im rooted, will the RUU un-root my phone?

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If you can get the RUU to run and see your phone; it will unroot your phone. That is why unrEVOked released "forever"

jdmba said:
Yikes.
1) Cannot confirm until the update is actually pushed; if they decide to fix another bug and not release tomorrow, then I guess it wasn't 100% confirmed.
2) OTA will likely NOT erase your settings/programs; RUU definitely will.
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1) the ota is on the servers, its def coming. It's the same ver as the leak, identical in every way.
2) during testing, the builds are pushed to test devices ota, some were at factory defaults after install. So be prepared, just in case. If not, more power to ya.
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i already have forever
my question is, is my current baseband, "1.00.03.03,06" supported by unrevoked forever? would it even mater since the ruu will install a new baseband, and will that new baseband be supported by forever?

JorgeNava said:
i already have forever
my question is, is my current baseband, "1.00.03.03,06" supported by unrevoked forever? would it even mater since the ruu will install a new baseband, and will that new baseband be supported by forever?
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Yes it will. It updates the radio to an already supported version.

thats all i needed to know. ill start the leaked RUU update right now and report back.
SUCCESS! i still have root and everything seems fine after the leaked RUU

I flashed the leaked ruu over the 8/1 leak. Kept all my apps and homescreen preferences. Just don't wipe data or cache when you flash it
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How do I get the OTA? - Rooted Incredible running stock sense

I am running stock sense on a rooted phone. I only rooted so I could tether and run adfree, and actually like stock sense very much. Is there a way to install the ota without ruining my phone?
I'm wondering this, too. I'm all stock, rooted with S-OFF, removed crapware. I'm running ClockworkMod 2.5.0.5 though, and I believe I've read that OTAs won't install if you're not running stock recovery. I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do now.
Run the OTA
Reflash your recovery
Done. Re-rooted. OTA doesnt turn s-on.
Smokeey said:
Run the OTA
Reflash your recovery
Done. Re-rooted. OTA doesnt turn s-on.
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Will the OTA install if I'm using ClockworkMod?
I'm in the same boat as thevoiceless, and I'm curious of the same thing; I don't want to brick my phone >.>
And is there a link to download the ota?
I love my skyradier 3.3.3 final Rom and I am not interested in this update how do I get It to stop bothering me every half hour to update. It's annoying.
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johndiblasi said:
I love my skyradier 3.3.3 final Rom and I am not interested in this update how do I get It to stop bothering me every half hour to update. It's annoying.
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Um... why did you post in this thread?
And to make it stop, I found this in another thread:
Code:
Get your build.prop from your /system/ folder
edit it
put this line in, not add it but replace the line that starts like this ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Replace it with this
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/264707:user/release-keys
Replace your build.prop and reboot. I did it by just using root explorer, copying it to the sdcard, editing on my PC, then copying it back to the /system/ folder then reboot. It might nag you once more upon reboot, but ignore and close it and it wont ask anymore.
Thank you. Sorry I posted it here I could not find anything relevant to my problem .
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Here you go
Applying November 2010 OTA to STOCK 2.2/FroYo rooted Incredible
Bob Denny said:
Here you go
Applying November 2010 OTA to STOCK 2.2/FroYo rooted Incredible
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Bob.... thanks a ton. As the brits say "you're a star".. just did it and everything went nice and smooth (well...except the link to the update itself... I kept getting an error when trying to apply it. Found the update on my phone and just used that)
Just did a backup... and removed the crapware again. Thanks a ton!
Can someone link to the crapware apk's? I didn't back them up before I removed them.
Bob, you saved my life. Thank you so much!
Thanks Bob, worked perfectly for me. I copied over some of my disabled apps to the wrong folder, so I got an error the first time trying to install the update. Moved them to the right folder, and the update worked perfectly!
Thanks for the info, it helped me as well! I knew being S-Off would come in handy!
Thanks Bob, worked perfectly for me as well
Question about the "** STOCK 2.2 ONLY - READ MY LIPS SUCKA! **" statement...
Does ODEX vs DEODEX matter?
I got a question regarding the link that Bob posted. in the step 13 where you need to Copy ClockWork Recovery 2.5.0.5 (PB31IMG).zip to just plain PB31IMG.ZIP on the SD root.
When I do that and boot into HBOOT nothing is happening and when i go to recovery it just shows a red triangle and exclamation point.
am i doing something wrong or what? i am S-OFF and the update installed smoothly, i didn't have any of those apps running and i didn't remove my crap ware so i didnt' have to restore that either.
newbie question
What steps would be different if you were trying to do this on a Mac?
I rooted my Incredible using unrEVOked one click root to get wireless tether, that's all I have done. I would like the OTA, but still leery of doing this until I know what is different.
I'm reading all the posts trying to figure out what would be different. Can anyone help me.
Thanks in advance from a total newbie.
So I'm in the same boat as some. I removed (through titanium backup) all the crap-ware including FriendStream. Unfortunately, I can no longer reinstall the apps via titanium so I need to know how to get them back on the phone. When I try to run the update, I always get the error that it was aborted because of FriendStream odex blah blah blah. Help please!
UPDATE!
Problem solved. I downloaded the new RUU which includes the November update and just went from there. Yeah, it wiped the phone and I had to reinstall everything but it was worth it.
Jikkan said:
So I'm in the same boat as some. I removed (through titanium backup) all the crap-ware including FriendStream. Unfortunately, I can no longer reinstall the apps via titanium so I need to know how to get them back on the phone. When I try to run the update, I always get the error that it was aborted because of FriendStream odex blah blah blah. Help please!
UPDATE!
Problem solved. I downloaded the new RUU which includes the November update and just went from there. Yeah, it wiped the phone and I had to reinstall everything but it was worth it.
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For future reference, this is what you were looking for: http://www.chadhaney.com/droidIncDefault/

Gingerbread update OTA update and rooted question

So my wifes phone is rooted with s off. When she receives her update will she be able to update and then I can just reinstall Su and CWM correct?
Thanks
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CWM will stop your phone from updating from the OTA.
It downloads fine, but when it tries to reboot to apply the update it looks for the stock recovery. You'll need to go back to stock recovery before you update.
Going back to stock requires that you use the RUU found here which will bring you back to stock recovery correct, but you will still retain S-OFF.
Running the RUU WILL keep S-OFF. But on dougpiston's site there is also a stock recovery you can flash in hboot if you don't want to run the RUU. I haven't used it though. So I can't really say anything about it.
That should work, S-Off/S-On settings are only changed by Unrevoked apps.
The RUU should restore your bootloader, OS, and recovery back to factory.
If that doesn't work, I use the zip files off of dougpiston.com to recover my phone.
Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
cuban11182 said:
Final question. If I apply the RUU will it wipe her phone or will she retain all her apps and such.
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The RUU will wipe EVERYTHING! It takes it back to factory settings. Out of the box. Minus S-OFF anyway.
I have a ROM Manager restore point with stock froyo, but rooted. If I restore to this, will I be able to get the OTA gingerbread update?
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the 50 mb of wasted space for crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
cvbcbcmv said:
that won't do anything to recovery, you must flash the RUU, or something similar to get back to stock and for it to work.
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abtxpress said:
Why do you all want to receive the ota? Just wait until a devs gets it and makes a rooted flashable zip. Updating the ota will s-off and make you unrootable. Then your gonna be stuck with the crapware Verizon tries to force down our throats. The will be nothing special with the ota except the crapware. Just hold on to your shorts and let the devs do their work!
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benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
I'm sure there will be a way to get the tv out being rooted.
Kiboe said:
benefits that i mainly want is the tv out (no real use for that anyway, since i'm not the kind of person who watches tv, let alone 80% of the time i moderatly use my phone.
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Gingerbread update on stock rooted Incredible
Let me know guys when you have it figured out, I am willing to wait so I don't mess up this awesome phone ...
Thanks !!
The stock roms in the dev section are rooted... they have TV out

[q]remove clockwork recovery

is there a way to remove clockwork recovery? my wife's phone has s-off and recovery, but she wants to keep it stock and use the OTA upgrade.
You should really check this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161411
I just flashed this over my stock froyo. Worked flawlessly, didn't lose any apps or anything. Removes all the VZW bloat and runs perfectly.
One thing to note, I believe you'll have to manually update your radio to the newest version but it's no big deal.
You can find the newest radio here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134451
From what I've read the radio that comes with the OTA is 20.27W.30.0811U_1.09.01.0622 unless someone can tell me I'm wrong.
i know all about that. but i still would like to know how to go back to stock recovery if possible.
tspderek said:
i know all about that. but i still would like to know how to go back to stock recovery if possible.
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You'll have to reflash the RUU and overwrite CWM with the stock recovery image once more.
If you don't mind me asking is there a reason why?
The only way I'd even consider doing this is if you're going to return the phone or if there's something wrong with it.
Why not just flash the official OTA that RMK put together and then flash the new radio?
It's EXACTLY the same thing minus the verizon bloat apps, heck it even runs faster than the stock OTA.
Do you flash the new radio like you would a new rom?
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barinaman said:
Do you flash the new radio like you would a new rom?
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No, There's a certain way you have to do it. Pretty easy BUT you have to check the MD5 to make sure it's not corrupt, otherwise you'll brick.
put the P32IMG.zip file onto the root of your sd card. Boot into hboot by holding vol down and power on startup.
It'll search your sd card and then ask to update. press power to update. It'll reboot when finished.
tspderek said:
is there a way to remove clockwork recovery? my wife's phone has s-off and recovery, but she wants to keep it stock and use the OTA upgrade.
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The issue is that if you flash the new OTA you'll lose root for the foreseable future. Currently most are unsure if it will undo the s-off and in the process you may lose the ability to root until a new exploit is found.
Read the first thread that is stickied on this forum about the OTA.
barinaman said:
Do you flash the new radio like you would a new rom?
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There's an app in the android market called AFV (android file verifier) that allows you to check the md5 sum of files you download directly on your phone. I would suggest you install that app and make sure the md5 matches the radio file you downloaded before flashing the radio as changing radios has much more potential to brick your phone entirely that traditional rom flashing.
this is for my wife's phone. mine is running CM7. my concern is that if i go forward with a rooted gingerbread, i won't be able to return her to full stock recovery and rom later. i don't want to do anything to her phone i can't undo later. is there a path for that after upgrading to the rooted stock rom?
tspderek said:
this is for my wife's phone. mine is running CM7. my concern is that if i go forward with a rooted gingerbread, i won't be able to return her to full stock recovery and rom later. i don't want to do anything to her phone i can't undo later. is there a path for that after upgrading to the rooted stock rom?
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Of course, it can always be undone later on. However, if you do the OTA update then you will not be able to root until a different exploit has been found.
This is why we're trying to get you to go the route of the rooted stock rom.
Just follow the directions in the first 2 posts of that thread and she'll be as stock as she got the phone (Minus having root, it being faster, etc....)
what's the rollback if we want to go full stock. no root, no CWM - stock enough to send to verizon.
I understand about the wife issues. My widest inc2 arrives in a few day. My plan is root and stock debloated Rom for her. She won't even know its not stock. That way when she wants sense 3.0 I can give it to her. If she knows I never hear the end of it.
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Moved to proper forum.

[Q] How do I update to Gingerbread? ROM Manager Causing Issues

I want to update my G2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 but for some reason when my phone restarts for the update to take affect I see the little green android with the progress bar. It stops without reaching 100% and I get an installation error. Why wont it upgrade? Could ClockworkMod Recovery be the culprit?
I don't know for sure but I would think so. Manually push the stock recovery (find it on the forum somewhere) back via adb and try again maybe? Either that or just flash the entire pc10img and u definitely won't have a problem. You will lose all your data tho.
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JosepHenry said:
I want to update my G2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 but for some reason when my phone restarts for the update to take affect I see the little green android with the progress bar. It stops without reaching 100% and I get an installation error. Why wont it upgrade? Could ClockworkMod Recovery be the culprit?
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So if you have ClockworkMod Recovery, that means you're rooted.
What are you trying to update to 2.3.3 with? Are you taking the OTA? You can't do this (or really really shouldn't) when you're rooted.
If you're rooted, head to the dev section and pick up a pre-rooted 2.3.3 OTA release. You'll keep your root and be upgraded to 2.3.3 like you want.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211143 I used this one. Its literally just the OTA, pre-rooted. No radio, just the ROM. Flash through ClockworkMod recovery. You should backup apps with something like Titanium Backup first, because its in your best interest to wipe all data through recovery before flashing.
Thanks guys. I honestly didnt know that I wasnt suppose to update/install official updates if my phone has been rooted. The pc10img ROM xsteven77x didnt work for me but the one martonikaj suggested did.
Once again. Thanks! Problem solved.
JosepHenry said:
Thanks guys. I honestly didnt know that I wasnt suppose to update/install official updates if my phone has been rooted. The pc10img ROM xsteven77x didnt work for me but the one martonikaj suggested did.
Once again. Thanks! Problem solved.
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Yep no problem. Just know that when you're rooted, you can no longer take any official update. Gotta do it on your own manually with pre-rooted ROMs.
Feel free to click "thanks" for my post glad I could help you out.

★ ☆ [MOD] M7vzw OTA Killer | Recovery Flashable Zip ☆ ★

Don't want the OTA right now?
Tired of deferring the update?
How can you stop it or get rid of it before or after it downloads to the device?
Answer:
M7vzw OTA Killer - Flash in Recovery
Enjoy! :good:
santod040 said:
Don't want the OTA right now?
Tired of deferring the update?
How can you stop it or get rid of it before or after it downloads to the device?
Answer:
M7vzw OTA Killer - Flash in Recovery
Enjoy! :good:
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Awesome thanks! Is there a way to get OTAs back after flashing this? Just curious.
Cares said:
Awesome thanks! Is there a way to get OTAs back after flashing this? Just curious.
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Flash my full odex stock rom...they won't apply to much else anyhow.
santod040 said:
Flash my full odex stock rom...they won't apply to much else anyhow.
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I am going to flash this with Bonestock. Shouldn't be a problem right?
Cares said:
I am going to flash this with Bonestock. Shouldn't be a problem right?
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You can flash this on any rom.
santod040 said:
Flash my full odex stock rom...they won't apply to much else anyhow.
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which rom of yours is full odex stock?? i;d love to try it
sant0d, you are da best. Not that I need this, but you've done a lot to ontribute to this model phone. So thank you.
This work with your KitKat ROMs too?
I just went through and flashed your Odex Debloated KitKat ROM, and downloaded this to block the OTA from happening. However, I just noticed the last update of this is from December. Is it still OK to flash this on top of the KitKat ROM, or is that going to muck up things? (Or did you already "bake" it in by getting rid of some of the stuff in the debloat process?).
Thanks again!
Robert
Robertjm said:
I just went through and flashed your Odex Debloated KitKat ROM, and downloaded this to block the OTA from happening. However, I just noticed the last update of this is from December. Is it still OK to flash this on top of the KitKat ROM, or is that going to muck up things? (Or did you already "bake" it in by getting rid of some of the stuff in the debloat process?).
Thanks again!
Robert
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It should still work fine on KK.
But the debloated rom already has the OTA stuff removed.
Look in Settings > see anywhere to even check for a software update? No you won't...
It's already been removed.
santod040 said:
It should still work fine on KK.
But the debloated rom already has the OTA stuff removed.
Look in Settings > see anywhere to even check for a software update? No you won't...
It's already been removed.
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Thank you so much!!!!! Finally something that actually works to get rid of the OTA Thank you so much Santod045 you are the best!
Oh yeah. Will this still work with sense 6.0?
Sent from my HTC ONE.
onthehole said:
Oh yeah. Will this still work with sense 6.0?
Sent from my HTC ONE.
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Yes, it should work just fine.
santod040 said:
Yes, it should work just fine.
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It does indeed!
Thank you very Much :good:
Stock Un-Rooted HTC One..?
My husbands phone (which he refused to let me root when we had the chance, has been giving him a lot of grief with this latest OTA. It keeps downloading, attempting to install, and there errors 410 update failed, and exits software update. When I checked his phone after the latest attempt by the phone to install 4.4.3 to see if the download was still ON his device, it had disappeared with the failure of the update.
My question is, he's just sick of getting the prompt, error, and reboot - as a temp fix, can I push this OTA Killer onto his phone even though it isn't rooted and have it work, or do I need to find a signed RUU of the 4.4.3 and flash in bootloader (as I was originally planning on doing, but came across this...)
Thanks in advance!!!
xenacick said:
My husbands phone (which he refused to let me root when we had the chance, has been giving him a lot of grief with this latest OTA. It keeps downloading, attempting to install, and there errors 410 update failed, and exits software update. When I checked his phone after the latest attempt by the phone to install 4.4.3 to see if the download was still ON his device, it had disappeared with the failure of the update.
My question is, he's just sick of getting the prompt, error, and reboot - as a temp fix, can I push this OTA Killer onto his phone even though it isn't rooted and have it work, or do I need to find a signed RUU of the 4.4.3 and flash in bootloader (as I was originally planning on doing, but came across this...)
Thanks in advance!!!
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If he has a custom recovery installed, then it will work. Have you tried downloading the OTAzip to his SD card and running the ota directly from stock recovery?
Get into recovery, select install update from SD, select OTAzip.
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Uzephi said:
If he has a custom recovery installed, then it will work. Have you tried downloading the OTAzip to his SD card and running the ota directly from stock recovery?
Get into recovery, select install update from SD, select OTAzip.
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NO, no custom recovery installed, everything is 100% stock. He spent a good part of 3 hours with tech support with Verizon and HTC and they were both dumbfounded....go figure!
Problem is because it's a virtual SD, I have no way of verifying (without root) that it's even downloaded to the virtual one on the M7. Would it hurt anything to take a shot at it from stock recovery.....?
Or is there a link someone could suggest to a download to the OTApkg file?
xenacick said:
NO, no custom recovery installed, everything is 100% stock. He spent a good part of 3 hours with tech support with Verizon and HTC and they were both dumbfounded....go figure!
Problem is because it's a virtual SD, I have no way of verifying (without root) that it's even downloaded to the virtual one on the M7. Would it hurt anything to take a shot at it from stock recovery.....?
Or is there a link someone could suggest to a download to the OTApkg file?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55244412
@dottat uploaded it to his android file host account.
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would this help my problem??
I recently read a post, I don't know where now, but it had to do with a hidden Trojan/malware. That was started in 2013... After reading, thinking back to when this really started affecting me Feb,26, 2015. I noticed some strange things mentioned in my service log from around that date. The post mentioned how it places a high tracker in some obscure app. Unfortunately I got the bug, BAD!!! So not knowing about this until I made it worse by plugging my phone into my computer... I'm sure you can figure out the rest. My everything is screwed now. My HTC one m7, is the only device I can use period, now. I tried to root, and couldn't. Then downloaded another root checker, and it said my device was already rooted. Is there anything I can do(on my knees begging). This has to be the worst inter-web experience ever. Any and all ideas, advice, similar problems, links, and time are greatly appreciated. Thank you

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