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[Q] Motorola Defy: Cell standby drain,airplane mode yes, wifi lan yes, wifi callin no

Have just purchased Motorola Defy.
Have no cellular signal at home. No problem, can run on wifi for internet and also use wifi for calling; Defy feature built in.
Cell standby draining battery excessively, ( 90-100% no signal)= ( 40-50% bat drain). If I use the airplane mode to stop cellular search can use wifi for internet but it disables the wifi calling feature ( known as UMA for blackberries).
Is there an app for the Motorola Defy that will disable cell searching for signal but allow both internet and calling wifi usage??
I am not computer programming savvy at all, you guys are the geniuses.
Love the phone hate this particular cell standby catch 22.
Thanks.

I haven't used this app before but I believe this is what you need, it called "Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool"
Here is the description of the app
This tool will help you manage your android phone to connect to Wifi networks (Wireless Internet, or Wi-fi) while on Airplane Mode.
This tool works with any version of Android, including 2.0+, however, it is only necessary if you have a device with Android 1.5-1.6. Android 2.0+ allows Wifi to be toggled while on AP Mode.

Airplane mode by default disables calling in/out, period
Thanks for your reply. I downloaded this app and it does enhance the Airplane mode capabilities but does not resolve the issue of being able to turn off cell standby while still being able to use both wifi internet and wifi calling.
Since I am not on a plane but am, instead, at home I believe what is needed is an app that directly addresses the cell standby searching issue and leaves the wifi settings to behave as intended; enabling the cell phone to fully function via wifi for both internet and calling when there is no cellular signal available, without a ridiculously and unnecessarily huge burden being put on the battery for a completely moot point...
If such an app does not exist then I believe there will be a demand for one and I ,for one, would be happy to donate for such an app.
Again, thank you for your reply.

mtoblr said:
Since I am not on a plane but am, instead, at home
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I just installed the application to see how it works.
When you open the application for the first time there is an instruction how to use the app. Obviously, it was designed to work in real world when one is on airplane. However, if you keep scrolling down the instruction page and read the FAQ section (B) then it tells you how you can configure it to use your wireless settings instead.
I hope that solves your problem.

This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)

scrannel said:
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)
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I was aware of your solution before but I thought that would disable the wireless signal as well otherwise I would have mentioned it. I did a test while my wifi was on and disabled the radio option and the wireless stayed connected.
Thank you for your solution.

CSharpHeaven said:
I was aware of your solution before but I thought that would disable the wireless signal as well otherwise I would have mentioned it. I did a test while my wifi was on and disabled the radio option and the wireless stayed connected.
Thank you for your solution.
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Right, but unlike airplane mode it does not shut down wifi calling. BTW, I do not understand the power drain issue. I leave my radio on while working all day, but using wifi with the wifi calling app set to wifi preferred and am seeing no heavy drain. Maybe -- under that same menu -- one should check to see that the "preferred network type is "GSM only." When wifi calling is disabled (even if wifi is active) the phone should default to GSM auto (PRL). I have noticed occasionally it will stay in GSM auto (PRL) with wifi calling on and that might cause a drain, but not sure.

Further to the discussions in this thread I just noticed after restarting my phone (off & on) the Mobile Data feature is enabled again.
There is another menu option called 'disable on boot'. Disabling data on boot did not work once I restarted my phone to test it but the menu showed the feature was still enabled unlike 'Disable Mobile Data'.

This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden
Thank you very much for this info. I was unaware of the hidden menu and this does indeed solve my problem. I will also try the GSM only setting first with radio on to see if that resolves the drainage issue.
I'm completely new to android and this forum and think both are great.
Thanks again.

mtoblr said:
Thank you very much for this info. I was unaware of the hidden menu and this does indeed solve my problem. I will also try the GSM only setting first with radio on to see if that resolves the drainage issue.
I'm completely new to android and this forum and think both are great.
Thanks again.
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"GSM only" should be the default when you are running wifi + wifi calling. Set your preferences in the wifi calling app to either wifi preferred or wifi only. Maybe that will stop your phone from searching for cell signals. However, if you kill the radio using the hidden menu it will for sure stop it from searching for a signal. So, if you are still getting drain, it's something else.

scrannel said:
This is easy: *#*#4636#*#* Go into menu, turn Radio off (toggle ON/OFF in this hidden menu). With radio off both wifi and wifi calling stay active. (USA T-MO)
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Looks like with the new OTA update you can't do this anymore.

[Q] [HELP] Anyone experienced with Tasker can help me?

Hi all,
I just purchased Tasker and was trying to do a simple task that
automatically turn on/off the wifi when I'm at home. All I do is:
Contexts | Tasks
Cell Near | Turn On Wifi
Wifi Near | Turn Off Wifi (Exit task) (optional?)
I also have another profile that simply turn off the wifi when I lock
the screen.
The problem is that whenever I unlock my phone, the wifi is connected
correctly to my home wifi, but after likes 10-30s, the wifi turn
off itself so my phone back to use 3G network, and after 1-2min it
reconnect itself to my home wifi again, this seems to happen again
and again? So what is the problem here? Hope someone experienced with Tasker can help me.
Thanks

you can go to wireless setting -> advanced setting to manually disable wi-fi hibernation upon screen off, or you will be creating an "infinite loop" with your task being triggered repeatedly.
after all, I found this too much a perfect partner to my android, and it actually helps me getting rid a number of applications that likely consume RAM individually.

Done that too but no help. Sometimes when I unlock the screen and although all the requirements are met (Cell Near, Wifi Near), the wifi still not turned on, I go to the wifi setting to check and see that it keep displaying "obtaining ip address from ..." and sometimes it just says "error". Don't know if this is because I use JPE modem with JPY base? Maybe I will try flashing a correct ROM and see if this problem can be fixed.

Cell Near | Turn On Wifi
Wifi Near | Turn Off Wifi (Exit task) (optional?)
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It appears to me that this what you have configured.
Cell Near (Cell tower near your home) - Turn on Wifi - Which works
Within range of certain WiFi Ap (Your home WiFi?) - Turn off WiFi - Which could be causing the WiFi to switch off in an endless loop?
Maybe you want to check your config logic?

fullerms said:
It appears to me that this what you have configured.
Cell Near (Cell tower near your home) - Turn on Wifi - Which works
Within range of certain WiFi Ap (Your home WiFi?) - Turn off WiFi - Which could be causing the WiFi to switch off in an endless loop?
Maybe you want to check your config logic?
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I thought the Cell Near & Wifi Near go together as they're in the same profile. The logic should be if Cell Near & Wifi Near then Turn on Wifi else Turn off Wifi. The else part is the exit task of this profile. Even if I remove this exit task, the phone still turn wifi off by itself?

kennytung said:
I thought the Cell Near & Wifi Near go together as they're in the same profile. The logic should be if Cell Near & Wifi Near then Turn on Wifi else Turn off Wifi. The else part is the exit task of this profile. Even if I remove this exit task, the phone still turn wifi off by itself?
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Remove the wifi near. If Cell near is true, then it means that you should be within range of your wifi and therefore the wifi near statement is redundant. If you are within range, wifi will automatically scan and connect to your wifi.
The exit task should only be to turnoff wifi. It is implied that exit task kicks in once you are out of range of your 'Home' Cell Tower.

fullerms said:
Remove the wifi near. If Cell near is true, then it means that you should be within range of your wifi and therefore the wifi near statement is redundant.
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I don't think wifi near is redundant. Being within cells that cover my house doesn't mean that I'm actually in my house right? So I think the two layer Cell Near and Wifi Near is efficiently enough but why it can connect to wifi in the first place and seconds later the wifi is turned off and on and off and on... I don't know why?

kennytung said:
I don't think wifi near is redundant. Being within cells that cover my house doesn't mean that I'm actually in my house right? So I think the two layer Cell Near and Wifi Near is efficiently enough but why it can connect to wifi in the first place and seconds later the wifi is turned off and on and off and on... I don't know why?
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I just guess when you leave your home, you are no longer in proximity of your own wi-fi access point so you just get your wi-fi off.
Though, as you leave further away from your home, your mobile begins to search for cell towers that are not supposed to be covered in your "cell near" context, and once your mobile get connected back to your home cell, your "wi-fi on" event would be triggered once again, and the process repeats.
I think the best way to solve this, apart from including more cell IDs, is to set the cooldown period of your first profile (in profile setting dialogue) to a certain value, saying 10 minutes (or a sufficient duration for your mobile to completely get away from your home towers)

ki1120 said:
I just guess when you leave your home, you are no longer in proximity of your own wi-fi access point so you just get your wi-fi off.
Though, as you leave further away from your home, your mobile begins to search for cell towers that are not supposed to be covered in your "cell near" context, and once your mobile get connected back to your home cell, your "wi-fi on" event would be triggered once again, and the process repeats.
I think the best way to solve this, apart from including more cell IDs, is to set the cooldown period of your first profile (in profile setting dialogue) to a certain value, saying 10 minutes (or a sufficient duration for your mobile to completely get away from your home towers)
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I was staying at my home the whole time I was using this profile

Check the value following the / symbol
Are you using the scan function in Cell Near? It should retrieve the ID of the closest cell tower with a value following a slash:
CDMA: 99999 / 8
Try changing the value to a wild card:
CDMA: 99999 / *
I have been using the following to turn WIFI on and off:
Add a new Profile and select State. Then select Cell Near and click the Scan button to find which Cell Towers are near your current location. Check the Invert button. Add a Task to for WIFI and set to Off.
Duplicate this profile and uncheck Invert and set WIFI to On.

Confirm Cell Tower IDs
You can confirm the Cell Tower ID by downloading one of these free Apps:
Antennas
Cell Tower Locator
You will want to use the BSID number listed in one of these Apps in Tasker for Cell Near.

3G when connected to WiFi

On most Android Devices, when you connect to WiFi, your 3G disappears. This doesn't occur on my 2.2 Defy. Is this normal?

Mine does that too, but not completely. After the upgrade WiFi always disconnects when the phone sleeps (in 2.2.1 US the setting to force WiFi had gone away), and it takes a while after a turn-on for WiFi to be re-established, after which the 3G icon goes away. BUT, this is not the case right after reboot when for the 3G icon to go away I need to first toggle WiFi off and on.

try juice defender

MarSOnEarth said:
Mine does that too, but not completely. After the upgrade WiFi always disconnects when the phone sleeps (in 2.2.1 US the setting to force WiFi had gone away), and it takes a while after a turn-on for WiFi to be re-established, after which the 3G icon goes away. BUT, this is not the case right after reboot when for the 3G icon to go away I need to first toggle WiFi off and on.
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change your wifi sleep policy

hah2110 said:
change your wifi sleep policy
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That's the crux; that setting is absent in 2.2.1 (as I mention in the text you quoted)

Do you still have ability to select preferences in wifi calling -- if so, does that help over-ride 3G with wifi?

scrannel said:
Do you still have ability to select preferences in wifi calling -- if so, does that help over-ride 3G with wifi?
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The short answer; yes, and no, the long; had to rename the app first, and the Calling Preferences is there and it was set to WiFi preferred.
So, it seems that the WiFi behavior is one of those things that still needs fixing in the 34.4.9 release.

Yes mine does it too. It did it on 2.1, and now 2.2.1. After about a half hour the 3G icon goes away. Doesn't bother me.

Mine wasn't doing this on 2.1, and yes, it bothers me. I'm on a limited data plan, so I have to make sure that most of my big downloads happen through WiFi.

MarSOnEarth said:
Mine wasn't doing this on 2.1, and yes, it bothers me. I'm on a limited data plan, so I have to make sure that most of my big downloads happen through WiFi.
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It still uses Wi-Fi even though both icons are showing. I track my use with NetCounter from the Market, and "Data" is always 0 (zero) when I have both icons.

[Q] Is there a fix for the Wifi Issues on Lollipop?

Recently purchased a 2013 Wifi only N7. Upgraded to Lollipop and continue to have intermittent WiFi issues, where WiFi will show connected in the notification area with an exclamation mark. This usually occurs after I docked the device and been away from it overnight or for several hours. The only way to get back on the network is by toggling WiFi off/on. There is another WiFi network in my home, but it is set to a different channel and we are far away from the neighbors. The AP is nearby with clear line of site, and other devices (e.g. HTC One, iPad) have no issues.
I have read that this is a general problem with Android 5.

I would check your Wi-Fi settings in settings, Wi-Fi, three dots, advanced.

SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
I would check your Wi-Fi settings in settings, Wi-Fi, three dots, advanced.
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There's not much to change in there. Since the nearest network is only 2.4ghz, I changed from automatic to 2.4ghz only. Not sure that's going to fix this.

What about your settings for WiFi being on or off during sleep? Is it set to always on?

SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
What about your settings for WiFi being on or off during sleep? Is it set to always on?
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Yes, it's set to the default, which is "always on." Should I change this?

Wifi after sleep?

I have a question. I have "keep WIFI on during sleep" option set to "Never".
When I wake up my phone from sleep after 30 minutes or more of not using it, the wifi does not reactivate itself (it's off, no icon in statusbar), but when I go to settings, it says that Wifi is enabled. Just like in the picture below...
I want to know if this is normal or what? Happens to me on both stock and custom rom.
EDIT :
I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. Htc and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped

Sadly for you, it works as expected for me. I let my phone sit for about 40 mins hoping I wouldn't get a text. Picked it up and the Wi-Fi turned on and connected right away.
Stock Rom (1.91.617.1)
Root
Ex kernel .20 (stock except min perf 0% & GPU medium)
ivicask v17 performance

mosincredible said:
Sadly for you, it works as expected for me. I let my phone sit for about 40 mins hoping I wouldn't get a text. Picked it up and the Wi-Fi turned on and connected right away.
Stock Rom (1.91.617.1)
Root
Ex kernel .20 (stock except min perf 0% & GPU medium)
ivicask v17 performance
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This is just plain weird for me. Not a real problem, but strange, maybe has something to do with my wifi connection (router).
Thanks for the reply!

Just confirmed that one other guy that just got the phone has the same issue.

I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped

CroCop18 said:
I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
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I have had the WiFi Frequency Band set to Automatic since I got the HTC 10. I came looking for this topic because of what mine does. When I wake up the screen, there is often a message on the screen "wifi has disconnected", and it will show connected to mobile data in the notification bar. It usually will reconnect to WiFi within a few seconds. But it is annoying, so I am looking for a fix, if there is one. I turned on the setting to keep it on WiFi during sleep a couple days ago, but it didn't change this behavior.
From what I am reading here, this sounds like it is common to the HTC 10 regardless of that setting. I am therefore thinking perhaps the "wifi has disconnected" message is actually left over and still on the display from when I turned the display off? But what I don't understand is that I get notifications such as incoming email and hangouts messages while the display is still sleeping. Unless those are coming via the mobile data connection. Perhaps I should try turning off mobile data and leaving wifi on to test if it still does that, but obviously leaving the mobile radio connection off is not desireable, even if that did help. Does the HTC 10 silently always switch to a mobile connection and turn off wifi whenever the screen is off, meaning that keep wifi on setting is flawed?

Zoandroid said:
I have had the WiFi Frequency Band set to Automatic since I got the HTC 10. I came looking for this topic because of what mine does. When I wake up the screen, there is often a message on the screen "wifi has disconnected", and it will show connected to mobile data in the notification bar. It usually will reconnect to WiFi within a few seconds. But it is annoying, so I am looking for a fix, if there is one. I turned on the setting to keep it on WiFi during sleep a couple days ago, but it didn't change this behavior.
From what I am reading here, this sounds like it is common to the HTC 10 regardless of that setting. I am therefore thinking perhaps the "wifi has disconnected" message is actually left over and still on the display from when I turned the display off? But what I don't understand is that I get notifications such as incoming email and hangouts messages while the display is still sleeping. Unless those are coming via the mobile data connection. Perhaps I should try turning off mobile data and leaving wifi on to test if it still does that, but obviously leaving the mobile radio connection off is not desireable, even if that did help. Does the HTC 10 silently always switch to a mobile connection and turn off wifi whenever the screen is off, meaning that keep wifi on setting is flawed?
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No. You probably have "Auto-switch to mobile network" enabled in advanced wifi settings.

CroCop18 said:
No. You probably have "Auto-switch to mobile network" enabled in advanced wifi settings.
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Thank you for replying. The only 3 boxes I have checked in WiFi > Advanced are as follows:
WiFi Notification
Show Wi-Fi pop-up
Hotspot sign-in
All the other check boxes are blank.

So I have similar problem. When I leave the house it switches to mobile network just fine. When I come back home it doesn't auto connect until I turn on the screen. My advanced wifi settings are below with basically nothing checked.
I agree this is a serious problem and for me I have no mobile network at home and depend on wifi and hangouts for voice calls.
Just curious what firmware is everyone on? Mine is 1.91.617.1.

This thread discusses it quite a bit, mentioning different settings changes to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-issues-htc-10-weak-signal-fail-t3368165
I tried some of these changes, and things seemed better today for awhile, until I found out my phone actually wasn't getting the internet over the solid WiFi connection to my network. :/ I had to undo all the changes so I could get back online with it.

CroCop18 said:
I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
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Interesting. Mine was already on Automatic. I never touched it.