Hi,
I have all my music library encoded as eaac+ 48kbps parametric stereo as this allows me to fit my entire music library on my microsd card.
Been using my music collection on my HTC HD2 which i soon replaced with the Desire.
Thing is that after some of the tracks i've been listening to started sounding funny, i've investigated more on the issue to find out that the Android eaac+ encoder seems to be doing quite a bad job...
For example the .aac file i've attached sounds almost perfect on my laptop and HD2 (using the same hi quality Sennheiser headphones) but on the desire the low bass sounds are awful, it's just like someone is hitting on a broken drum.
Could someone please help me confirm this issue? Could you try playing the attached test .aac file on the htc desire and let me know if you encounter the same problem with it sounding awful? (Try also on a laptop with latest winamp to see the difference).
Thanks !
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
SpaceGooner said:
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
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That's funny, I contacted HTC support about playing .m4a files and the reply was, and I quote, "You can not play the m4a files by default on your device and you need to search over the Android market for a compatible application with your device to allow you play such files on your device."
I myself haven't been able to playback .m4a files with several music players, including the default HTC one and players downloaded from the market.
Is anyone actually able to play this file type?
SpaceGooner said:
Hi ubik,
All my digital audio files are also eaac+ at 48kbps, but are in .m4a containers, not .aac, but that shouldn't make any difference (By the way aac+ with parametric stereo = eaac+). As I'm about to buy a Desire, your post made me think that maybe the Desire doesn't support eaac+, only aac+. Iphones and ipods only support aac+, so eaac+ files come out in mono and sound rubbish on those devices. HTC's website doesn't confirm if the Desire plays eaac+ files, so I contacted HTC via their website, and they confirmed that the Desire supports these audio formats .wma, .aac, .m4a, .mp3, .mp4 and .wav files And these codecs WAV, WMA, AAC, AAC+, eAAC+, M4A, MP3 and MP4. Therefore if it supports the eaac+ codec, you should get CD quality sound with your eaac+ files at 48kbps. Maybe you should ask HTC about this via their website.
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What i did is dump my eaac+ converted music library as it sounded bad on my Desire and it was really a lot of music that i did not listen to; being a lot of media files, the music player was very sluggish. I reordered my original mp3s and made a selection of music that i do listen.
I admit, this is not the solution to the problem (using mp3s instead of eaac+ and using less files because the player is sluggish) but it is a great phone overall and who knows what the future brings (Android 2.2 Froyo for example).
I'm not impressed with how google has failed to respond my bug report, but it's hard for me to find faults with this phone, after using the HTC HD2 i'm wondering how i could live with winmo's faults all this time
Hey,
I plan to buy a Desire, but this could be a dealbreaker for me:
Does this occur with AAC+ (e.g. HE-AACv1, without Parametric Stereo) as well? My whole music library is in that format!
It would be really great if somebody could confirm the situation. If you don't have access to any AAC+ files of your own, I uploaded one to drop.io/3q2r8b7/asset/desire-heaac-test-zip in MP3, AAC+ (HE-AAC v1) and eAAC+ (HE-AAC v2).
Thanks!
hi,
all three files sound ok on my desire (i can tell very little difference between them)
maybe you should try giving me something with more base sound (this is where i notices the problem)
you gave me symphonic music which has more of the high notes
ubik said:
hi,
all three files sound ok on my desire (i can tell very little difference between them)
maybe you should try giving me something with more base sound (this is where i notices the problem)
you gave me symphonic music which has more of the high notes
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Thank you very much for testing.
I've now uploaded another track with more bass in it: drop.io/3q2r8b7/asset/backleg-heaac-test-zip
Hi,
i've tried these three files on my desire and they sound just fine !
can you tell us the exact settings u've used for music encoding? we might be onto something here...
ubik said:
Hi,
i've tried these three files on my desire and they sound just fine !
can you tell us the exact settings u've used for music encoding? we might be onto something here...
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I've encoded them with the Nero AAC Codec, Version 1.5.4.0, with the command line parameters -br 32000 for the v2 one, and -br 48000 for the v1 (Nero autoselects the appropriate codec for the chosen bitrate that way).
Did you encode your 48kbps files to HE-AAC v2? That could be the cause of your problem; v2 uses Parametric Stereo, which can improve quality for very low bitrates (<32kbps); but for 48kbps you usually get better results with just using HE-AAC v1.
Be sure to use the newest version from www .nero.com/enu/downloads-nerodigital-nero-aac-codec.php, as the change log specifically mentions some fixed incompatibilities with some hardware devices.
my files for the most part are AAC in mp4 or m4a extensions.
done myself with belight and neros AAC encoder. haven't had any problems at all with the default player or meridian
p.s some are about 2-3 years old at least and still play fine. older ones are mp3 though
I had a similar problem with my Desire. Music sounded AWFUL. Lots of clicks and pops on drum sounds. I normalized the mp3s to 90% and it seems to have fixed it.
I'm so sick of this... My whole music collection is screwed since it's encoded into he-aac v2. Since the 2.2 update parametric stereo isn't working and the sound quality is ****!
Google have already released a patch for it but it needs to be implemented by HTC, so please complain at the HTC community and maybe they'll read it and release a patch for us as soon as possible http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/97.aspx
This is a MAJOR issue and it's affecting many streaming music applications aswell!
Probably not many users like AAC?
I am using MP3
Good luck with asking HTC to release patch!
Probably it is better to root your device and install another ROM.
Exactly!
MP3 ftw!!! AAC is an Apple-only file format (well, it's not but it's iTunes which I REFUSE to use)
AAC isn't an apple format. it's just the next step beyond MP3.
i use AAC exclusively now (and i hate all things apple) and they play fine on the phone
Still think AAC is a fail (WAV is the ultimate file format!!) - suppose you'll have to complain to HTC, or go back to 320kbps MP3 (which is better IMO than AAC anyway). If it was as big an issue as you say there'd be a lot more people complaining on here...
I had been encoding all my music in wma 10 pro as it provided the best integrity of the lossy formats supported by wp7. Not everything was encoded in the same format, though. HTC Sound Enhancer didn't seem to be working and I thought it was a hardware issue because it was universal with every rom I used. Then, I noticed that sometimes the enhancement would work with certain songs. I took a look at them and realized it was the wma 10's that didn't work with it. I transcoded them to m4a's and now they work with the enhancement.
I just thought it was an interesting find and thought I'd share it.
I think I should clarify that by it not working, I don't mean it would crash; there was simply no difference in the sound between settings. Everything was the default flat sound.
Hi,
I recently bought a Galaxy W (Middle east), The phone is not able to play aac+ or eaac+ files properly. 1st thing is it wont even recognise the tags, if i use media fixer then the phone will recognize the tags, but the quality is very low.. ie the phone is not recognizing the file as aac+ or eaac+, its recognizing as aac, so aac+ at 48 or 64kbps is playing as 48/64kbps normal aac. If anyone is able to play eaac+ or aac+v2 file in this phone with audio effects in default player, please mention your firmware version here.. my firmware version is JPLM7_ojplm4
nobody in XDA has knowledge about this! ?
Anyone? no one here use HE-AAC files? Is there any workaround or fix. Is anyone able to play 64kbps encoded HE-AAC music files in this phone with quality? 64kbps HE-AAC is supposed to give 192kbps Mp3 music quality.. i've been using HE-AAC on my xperia and previous smartphone.. however HE-AAC files are not at all working properly with samsung phone, its not androids fault as my xperia can play them. However samsung wave 3 and galaxy w is unable to decode them properly, they are decoding HE-AAC as LC-AAC
have u tried using another music player from playstore ?
mosta_9741 said:
have u tried using another music player from playstore ?
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Players with its own codecs will play the file.. ie players like jetaudio, but players (ie MIUI or doubletwist) which use decoder that built in stockROM will not be able to decode HE-AAC files properly, they decode them as LC-AAC. Is there any fix available for the inbuilt decoder in stock ROM. I am using Jetaudiopro now to play tracks. I absolutely hate MP3 files, AAC audio is much cleaner and Opus codec is much better. Sadly, the only player that support Opus playback is rockbox for android.
i guess ull have to contact any dev thats interested in audio codecs so he tries to implement ur desired codec into a rom (or figure out a mod that can b applied in any desired rom )
mosta_9741 said:
i guess ull have to contact any dev thats interested in audio codecs so he tries to implement ur desired codec into a rom (or figure out a mod that can b applied in any desired rom )
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i agree
Hi all,
i've just flashed my 5Z to the EvolutionX ROM. but the build in EQ is terrible. and the lame in sotre EQ's do not work at all. Now. i've tried getting the DTSX Audiowizard working. but this does not work, thus i've tried the sony Walkman .APK (because previous experiences i love this music player). this ofcourse did not work either. is there anny way for me to enloy my lossless audio with a good EQ. and with a good working app ( and i do not mean Google Music Player, wich sucks DonkyD***)
With kind regards.
L-W
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.musicplayer&hl=it
Try Musicolet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.krosbits.musicolet