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The 3600 extended mugen battery is finally available officially.

http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.info.../es109514_es120302495377/Products/HLI-BST41XL
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.info.../es109514_es120302495377/Products/HLI-BST41SL
Too bad it's hella delayed. It says "PRE-ORDER NOW for shipping end of this week." So that means it's pretty soon.
I'd suggest getting the 3600 mah over the 1800 because the 3600 makes typing much quicker, but it hurts in your pockets.

poetryrocksalot said:
I'd suggest getting the 3600 mah over the 1800 because the 3600 makes typing much quicker, but it hurts in your pockets.
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ermm.. u mean hi-cap battery can improve typing speed?
Interesting..

the 3600 battery is also thicker... be interesting to know how much bigger it is. if anyone gets one maybe they can let us know

acidwww said:
ermm.. u mean hi-cap battery can improve typing speed?
Interesting..
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I believe he meant that you can type easier/quicker because the 3600 battery increases the thickness of your X1

Hmm
A battery is not an application or a theme so...
Misplaced thread?

First of all, who would trust a battery/manufacturer that cannot even spell Sony Ericsson (Erisson!) correct?
Then, what makes me wonder, what kind of a battery COVER they include! Remember, ours are brushed aluminum and people state that is used to reflect heat (heatsink).
So, one could imagine they include a Plastic Cover. How would that affect the phones heating problem...
Kindly, anybody that gets the first 3600 battery from them, let us all know if they spelled finally Ericsson correctly and what material the battery cover is (and if it fits correctly and tightly!).
Thanks

strkopiesok said:
I believe he meant that you can type easier/quicker because the 3600 battery increases the thickness of your X1
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I LOVE IT
but, if the thickness is increased, we could decrease our bigs fingers?

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acidwww said:
ermm.. u mean hi-cap battery can improve typing speed?
Interesting..
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Try this: Get a bifold wallet and put it behind the battery cover of the Xperia.
Now type the same sentences on your x1 keyboard with and without the wallet.
The battery is thinner than the wallet and so typing would not be as easy than with a wallet.
I am guessing you did not see the extended battery cover because I accidentally posted a link to the home page instead of the extended battery page.
And the 1800 mah battery is the same size as the original oem 1500 mah battery except it has more capacity.
michaelthemage said:
First of all, who would trust a battery/manufacturer that cannot even spell Sony Ericsson (Erisson!) correct?
Then, what makes me wonder, what kind of a battery COVER they include! Remember, ours are brushed aluminum and people state that is used to reflect heat (heatsink).
So, one could imagine they include a Plastic Cover. How would that affect the phones heating problem...
Kindly, anybody that gets the first 3600 battery from them, let us all know if they spelled finally Ericsson correctly and what material the battery cover is (and if it fits correctly and tightly!).
Thanks
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Sony Ericsson... the web site labeled the phone as a Sony Ericsson. This is correct, you're just ignorant to double check!
And the battery cover for the extended battery is metallic. I just posted the wrong link, I posted a link to homepage instead of extended battery page.
anothadave said:
the 3600 battery is also thicker... be interesting to know how much bigger it is. if anyone gets one maybe they can let us know
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I pre-ordered the battery, I will inform you guys.

Ignorant.... are you talking to me???????????
Read the label on the battery dummy, it says
E r i s s o n missing the C ! Who's ignorant or
can't really spell ? If you trust such a company, be my guest! Waiting for your report when you finally got one!

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Ignorant.... are you talking to me???????????
Read the label on the battery dummy, it says
E r i s s o n missing the C ! Who's ignorant or
can't really spell ? If you trust such a company, be my guest! Waiting for your report when you finally got one!
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You mean the black battery right?
Anyways, it doesn't matter until we get the actual battery. But who cares about the name, I will only complain about the name if I get an oem battery that spelled their brand name wrong, otherwise if it's from a 3rd party company, then quality is the best thing to be concerned about.
Also there were prototype Nokia N86's that were labeled N86 on its shell, and these phones were N86's. Also, the 1800 mah battery spelled it correctly with the same phrasing that the 2700 mah battery has: "FOR SONY ERICSSON XPERIA". The black battery is unclear quality too.
We will see when we get the battery.
I just saw the clear version and it's indeed spelled wrong.

That's why I went the 1800 road! When I get it I will know if that's a real working battery and if it blows up, I paid much less then if it would be the 3600 battery

poetryrocksalot said:
Try this: Get a bifold wallet and put it behind the battery cover of the Xperia.
Now type the same sentences on your x1 keyboard with and without the wallet.
The battery is thinner than the wallet and so typing would not be as easy than with a wallet.
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think i must hold the xperia differently to you, would make no difference to me how thick the phone is. i kinda hook my first fingers around the top and side of the fone so the finger makes a C shape. the whole inside of the finger is gripping the phone and my second fingers are barely touching the back. i can type very fast this way and the phone is well supported. one problem i see with the thicker battery is getting the phone to fit in the phone case i have. ive got the official sony case and its a very tight squeeze as it is. another 5mm would probably be ok but anymore than that and i doubt it would fit. its hard to see from the picture the dimensions of the 3600mah battery but im guessing since its twice the capacity its probably twice the size too.
spotted this on ebay.... worth the risk??
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Capacit...h=item280330483276&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262

michaelthemage said:
That's why I went the 1800 road! When I get it I will know if that's a real working battery and if it blows up, I paid much less then if it would be the 3600 battery
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dude don't scare people like that... a battery once killed a boy from china... freaky *****!
anyways, I'm sure that mugen is a reliable battery brand.
anothadave said:
think i must hold the xperia differently to you, would make no difference to me how thick the phone is. i kinda hook my first fingers around the top and side of the fone so the finger makes a C shape. the whole inside of the finger is gripping the phone and my second fingers are barely touching the back. i can type very fast this way and the phone is well supported. one problem i see with the thicker battery is getting the phone to fit in the phone case i have. ive got the official sony case and its a very tight squeeze as it is. another 5mm would probably be ok but anymore than that and i doubt it would fit. its hard to see from the picture the dimensions of the 3600mah battery but im guessing since its twice the capacity its probably twice the size too.
spotted this on ebay.... worth the risk??
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Capacit...h=item280330483276&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
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Looks generic for sure, it also looks like not only is this made from china but it's a chinese company... the model number is a legal trick...
I think this is how it works:
It's ok to call your generic fake battery a BST-41
It's not ok to call you generic fake batter a Mugen BST-41
It's ok to call your generic fake N95 an N95
It's not ok to call your generic fake N95 a Nokia N95
And dave, I have fixed the URL link to the extended 3600 mah battery, you will see the actual battery.
Or you can go here http://picasaweb.google.com/mugenpower8/SonyEricssonXperiaX1BST41#5307678349589177746
It's thicker than it looks, because look at the Xperia, the Xperia in this picture looks thin, therefore the battery cover looks thin even though it is much thinker.
Anyways you will see the battery is black and it says Sony Erisson instead of Sony Ericsson... this still makes it a REAL MUGEN battery. No worries.

anothadave said:
spotted this on ebay.... worth the risk??
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Capacit...h=item280330483276&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
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After seeing so many exploding cases on the news when using cheap 3rd party china brand and made battery, i'm willing to pay extra more for a non-china made product.. At least less risk of my X1 exploding near my chest or my groin..

acidwww said:
After seeing so many exploding cases on the news when using cheap 3rd party china brand and made battery, i'm willing to pay extra more for a non-china made product.. At least less risk of my X1 exploding near my chest or my groin..
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And worst of all you can't sue the company for millions.

Dudess, don't think of sueing before you even have the battery or before it even explodes in your face.
So why don't we just wait until one has the battery for real in hand...!

think ill stick with the proper mugen 1800mah battery. its only a tenner more.

WELL? i want to know what happened! ...did they both get cheap explosive batteries and die or...?

Hmm... think can consider the 1800mAh one...

Seidio extended battery... IT'S COMING!

I know many of us have been anxiously waiting to see for an extended battery option from Seidio (or other reputable 3rd party), but nobody has announced one for the Captivate until now. Finally:
http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4411.htm
Unfortunately, no mention of price or when it will be released as it's currently "under development" but that they have added it to their store is exciting enough!

Yeah I just saw that too, and wow 3200mah is huge!

Do you think they will make a case for it? I have the body glove that was launched with the phone. I kind of like it. Has anyone purchased from these guys before? Any experiences to share. Did you buy a case? They made a huge battery for the EVO didn't they?

This means a battery about 2 times as thick as the current one, so expect a custom back with a bumpout for battery.
The Moto Droid 2800 extended battery is $69 so this one will be between $70 and $90 - I would rather have a spare battery or an external rechargeable charger for half the price. I would never make "The Captain" thicker. No pot bellies (or junk in the trunk) on my captain just a slim toned physique.
But Seido has always made a good product - usually they can take the current sized battery and squeeze a little more in - like an 1800mAh in the current size. I hope.

Has anyone actually tried to wrap their head around what this thing will look like?
Our fancy locking closure will either make this thing hideous or cause our phones to look like the back of an Incredible (which I don't mind personally, I liked the terraced back. It reminds me of the zen like nature of steppes carved into a mountain for hillside farming.)
Either way, I want one. I'm just actually trying to fathom the design, and what will happen to the sound quality being the speaker is built underneath the battery cover.

We'll see... I don't think it will be that bad, as the Evo battery only adds "5-6mm" to the phone and that is a 3500mAh battery. But given the option, I would prefer a battery in the range of 2200-2400mAh that only adds maybe 2-3mm. But beggars can't be choosers.
If they could crank out a 1800mAh "slim" battery that does not require a cover, that would be excellent as well. They have 1750mAh for the Incredible and Evo, so who knows.

I have one of their "big" 2600 mAh batteries for my old Bold 9000 and while it put hump in its back, it fit my hand great and having that extra power was fantastic. I'll get this when it comes out.

Im totally down for this hopefully they make the back tapered and not just a straight "step" up, I'm 6 foot 3 and consequently have large hands so I wouldnt even mind my phone being a lil bit thicker.

mesasone said:
We'll see... I don't think it will be that bad, as the Evo battery only adds "5-6mm" to the phone and that is a 3500mAh battery. But given the option, I would prefer a battery in the range of 2200-2400mAh that only adds maybe 2-3mm. But beggars can't be choosers.
If they could crank out a 1800mAh "slim" battery that does not require a cover, that would be excellent as well. They have 1750mAh for the Incredible and Evo, so who knows.
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They did this for my Fuze, and it was absolutely worth it. I hope they do this for our Cappys

Did anybody think about this aspect of the battery?
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Seidio_Inc
They don't have the greatest reputation.

miztaken1312 said:
Did anybody think about this aspect of the battery?
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Seidio_Inc
They don't have the greatest reputation.
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16 reviews for a company that has been selling accessories for many years (5 that i know of) is not much of a statistic.
I can tell you that, when I was a moderator for Qusers, many people bought from Seido and never had a problem. that doesn't mean there is no problem, but everyone I know that has bought from Seido was satisfied. Their products are regularly review by major blogs, and amazon shoppers give their cases 4.5/5.
I have shopped at hundreds of sites and never filled out a review for resellerratings - so I am not sure that they are the best source for any information.
From my knowledge of the company I would not hesitate to buy from them. if they put out a 2000mAh battery that is the same size as OEM, i will buy it in a second.

I would rather leave the internal battery in place and add a accessory cover with a priority battery slot. The internal battery might have to be replaced with one a mm or two shorter to allow room for the internal battery disconect. With an internal secondary and external primary, the phone could remain in operation during battery changes. Yes, this would add a hump, but I think the phone would fit my hand better...

mm.. I really rather have the same size format but a little more juice to it..1800mAh
how much more juice would that be compared to the standard 1500 :O

darkamikaze said:
mm.. I really rather have the same size format but a little more juice to it..1800mAh
how much more juice would that be compared to the standard 1500 :O
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20% more
10char

gary_lankford said:
I would rather leave the internal battery in place and add a accessory cover with a priority battery slot. The internal battery might have to be replaced with one a mm or two shorter to allow room for the internal battery disconect. With an internal secondary and external primary, the phone could remain in operation during battery changes. Yes, this would add a hump, but I think the phone would fit my hand better...
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Someone could make a Morphie Juice pack thing like for the iPhone. There are a couple already for the Galaxy S i9000:
http://www.be-mine.info/peripherals/samsung-power-pack-ebb-u10-for-galaxy-s-hit-germany

I have Seidio batteries for my Canon DSRL camera and it works just as good as the original one.

Anyone know of any extended life battery for this phone yet. This is insane this phone has been out a while there should be somethin. I saw the vibrant has a 3000mah, bout to get that and just stick it in without the back cover and throw a silicon case over to hold it in. Saw that amzer has a 1600 but thats almost not worth it.
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miztaken1312 said:
Did anybody think about this aspect of the battery?
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Seidio_Inc
They don't have the greatest reputation.
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Honestly? No.
In the last 12 months, they have 3 bad reviews. Doesn't really mean anything to me, and I care even less knowing their products are fairly decent since I own some stuff of theirs for my Blackberry.

norcal einstein said:
Honestly? No.
In the last 12 months, they have 3 bad reviews. Doesn't really mean anything to me, and I care even less knowing their products are fairly decent since I own some stuff of theirs for my Blackberry.
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Yeah I have an extended life seidio for the bb 9700 and its been great
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alphadog00 said:
Someone could make a Morphie Juice pack thing like for the iPhone. There are a couple already for the Galaxy S i9000:
http://www.be-mine.info/peripherals/samsung-power-pack-ebb-u10-for-galaxy-s-hit-germany
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Who proof reads these things?
"Samsung launches the Power Pack EBB-U10 for the Galaxy S i9000 in Germany. The Power Pack is an external battery that attaches to the back of the phone basicallt and offers 8.5 hours talk time and 500 hours of talk time."
So is that 508.5 hours of talk time?

Powerskins coming for Vibrant.

Go over to their site and register, when they're available they'll send you a discount code. I've been wanting one.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Here is the link
Powerskin for Vibrant
Click "Buy Now!" fill out your information and you will be sent an email in April, as well as a coupon code.

Double the battery and it shouldn't be too bulky on an already thin phone... I'll take one thanks

I can't wait for this

Looks cool!

How much are you guys willing to pay for this? I wont pay more than $45, I'd rather pay that amount for the FFC that works now.

I agree
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Battery problem somewhat resolved..... but seems expensive!

Hopefully the discount code they give us is generous
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badaphooko01 said:
How much are you guys willing to pay for this? I wont pay more than $45, I'd rather pay that amount for the FFC that works now.
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I am such a battery junkie, I would pay $45 for double the battery life. I am thinking the coupon will give like free shipping for $5 dollars off.

This looks good, actually the only extended battery item I would consider.

can someone describe a little more about this?
does it hold an extra battery? does it have a built in battery that is 2x the capacity?

think i wouldn't buy any extended battery life w/case cause it makes it too bulky. that picture don't seems too thick but once u put it on it would make lot difference. and it beats whole purpose of getting thin sexy vibrant. i rather wait for actually battery it self. i heard in korea soon releasing the battery

They already have a code for 25% off and free shipping, using the code "CHARGEON" at checkout.
It's under the "Where to buy" button.

IuNlockeM said:
think i wouldn't buy any extended battery life w/case cause it makes it too bulky. that picture don't seems too thick but once u put it on it would make lot difference. and it beats whole purpose of getting thin sexy vibrant. i rather wait for actually battery it self. i heard in korea soon releasing the battery
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^^This^^Spot on!

IuNlockeM said:
think i wouldn't buy any extended battery life w/case cause it makes it too bulky. that picture don't seems too thick but once u put it on it would make lot difference. and it beats whole purpose of getting thin sexy vibrant. i rather wait for actually battery it self. i heard in korea soon releasing the battery
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Battery itself??? What kind of battery is that youre expecting? 1650 mah or higher? And it's suppose to be the same size like vibbie batt? Can u send me a link or something to that news because i didn't know. Thank you
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Doesnt seem like a bad deal. The my touch case is $59. I paid $30 for my case mate tough case.

It's an excellent deal. I've seen these on IPhone and they are pretty frikken thin, it's essentially all battery over the dimensions of the case so you don't have that retarded 4" thick phone you get with the 2300 mah batts. I have 3 batts and an external charger and it's a pain in the ass to have to reboot several times a day.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.

Notice on the side profile pics that the backside no longer has a hump. You can gauge from there how much thicker your phone might be.
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IuNlockeM Are you talking about the Vibrant 4g battery?

Video Review: Mugen Power 3200 mah Extended Battery!!!

Hi Guys,
Got my hands on the Mugen Power 3200 mah extended battery, it is FANTASTIC. The replacement cover does a great job at keeping the same texture of the original back cover. It adds some thickness but still feels natural and comfortable in your hand. Performance wise, it is great as well, some users could get 2+ days out of it easily. Full review below:

sorry, but these extended battery look ugly! and only half a day extra battery life, no way worth it!

psp888 said:
sorry, but these extended battery look ugly! and only half a day extra battery life, no way worth it!
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You have problems with math?

psp888 said:
sorry, but these extended battery look ugly! and only half a day extra battery life, no way worth it!
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I consider myself a very heavy user (as bad as that may seem) so whilst out of my house, apart from when I'm driving, I'll be on my phone. Half a day of added battery is great for me and works fine, I'm sure a medium user would get 2 days easily and a light user close to 3 days.
It depends what kind of user you are, light users probably wouldn't pick one up unless they were going out camping for a weekend or something.

keep it up mate thank you once again for the work

thanks guy , you just rocks ! but 100$ .. ugh !

bluedragon38 said:
thanks guy , you just rocks ! but 100$ .. ugh !
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Thanks, but yeah the price point is something they have to work on - i'd see it fit if it retailed for 50-60$

If anyone is interested in purchasing this product, use the FACEBOOKSPECIAL coupon to save 7% - I know it's not huge savings but should help out.

Anyone purchased this battery alrady?

bryant_16 said:
Anyone purchased this battery alrady?
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Apart from myself, I know NZtechfreak posted on a review on the Clove.co.uk Blog and you can find another review on YouTube (although in Italian).
As far as I know, the general public seems to favor the performance on the battery.

Ploone said:
Hi Guys,
Got my hands on the Mugen Power 3200 mah extended battery, it is FANTASTIC. The replacement cover does a great job at keeping the same texture of the original back cover. It adds some thickness but still feels natural and comfortable in your hand. Performance wise, it is great as well, some users could get 2+ days out of it easily. Full review below:
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Thanks for posting the review. I think it'll be a very valuable accessory for travelling purposes. Of course the thickness of the phone increases after installing the extended battery, but are you aware of any car mounts that will work with a SGS 2 with the Mugen battery?

lsquare said:
Thanks for posting the review. I think it'll be a very valuable accessory for travelling purposes. Of course the thickness of the phone increases after installing the extended battery, but are you aware of any car mounts that will work with a SGS 2 with the Mugen battery?
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Hi, you're very welcome.
I'm pretty sure that something similar to this should do the job:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/trailblazer-advanced-pro-universal-car-charger-and-holder-p27266.htm
Universal car holders should fit the Galaxy S2 with the Mugen as they've been around for awhile now, when phones used to be much bulkier.

Is it worth buying the bigger batteries from eBay?

Im generally happy with the battery, do the bigger batteries add much more

chrisredmayne said:
Im generally happy with the battery, do the bigger batteries add much more
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If the battery size between 1700 mAh and 2000 mAh, I advise you to get it.
If more than 2000, no.
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Consider that charging period will increase as well.

chrisredmayne said:
Im generally happy with the battery, do the bigger batteries add much more
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A 3600 mAh battery like the Mugen one does really give you an extra day. Smaller batteries don't guarantee that.

chrisredmayne said:
Im generally happy with the battery, do the bigger batteries add much more
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Weight and size.
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as netizenmt mentioned, weight and size are factors to consider. a buddy of mine has the extended batteries and they're thick. if you have a leather case it'll be quite a challenge to close it...let alone use the case snaps to clamp on the sides of the phone. given that the play is slightly thicker already, the thick batts really make it bigger. just be careful if you do order the batts. i read somewhere in the forum about them being sold through ebay...only to find out that some aren't "compatible". can't remember if that meant function-wise.

Robson said:
as netizenmt mentioned, weight and size are factors to consider. a buddy of mine has the extended batteries and they're thick. if you have a leather case it'll be quite a challenge to close it...let alone use the case snaps to clamp on the sides of the phone. given that the play is slightly thicker already, the thick batts really make it bigger. just be careful if you do order the batts. i read somewhere in the forum about them being sold through ebay...only to find out that some aren't "compatible". can't remember if that meant function-wise.
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Please be minded that we might also need to edit build.prop when using bigger batteries for compatibility issues..
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imkentoy said:
Please be minded that we might also need to edit build.prop when using bigger batteries for compatibility issues..
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My MUGEN 3600mAh battery works just fine without editing the battery capacity value in build.prop

jacklebott said:
My MUGEN 3600mAh battery works just fine without editing the battery capacity value in build.prop
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Do you think the mugen will fit inside the Trident case? Perhaps without the battery cover. Or maybe modifying original battery cover along with the case?

genetic608 said:
Do you think the mugen will fit inside the Trident case? Perhaps without the battery cover. Or maybe modifying original battery cover along with the case?
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If the case requires the PLAY's original dimensions, then no. The MUGEN battery protrudes further than the stock battery

the MUGEN battery is bigger and heavier, but you would have to really work your phone to get through it in a day, ive left my phone running castlevania sotn at 180fps for about 8+ hours with a 1.5ghz oc and i still had power to spare..
essentially the great thing about these batteries is that battery life doesnt become a concern anymore, i get about 3 days battery life with standard use, if i turned off data, god knows how much i would get.
iphone users jaws drop when i tell them i get 3 days battery, i love it.

Mael5trom said:
iphone users jaws drop when i tell them i get 3 days battery, i love it.
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Yeah but you carry a behemoth around with you

i dont think about the weight, in fact i usually still have trouble feeling it vibrate and i have to touch my pocket every now and then to make sure i still have it.
ive had a comment off a teenage girl before who seemed rather offended at the prospect of trading size for battery life.. but she probably also doesnt understand why i want a gamepad.. noone else, or me cares.
the part i care about is being able to use my phone, for anything, whenever i want and never having battery be a factor. its completely worry free. my ultimate device in my pocket that can always be relied upon. i quite like the feel of the gamepad with the thicker back cover, and i honestly dont think the replacement cover is anywhere near as visually offensive as many slab phone back covers which jut out in crazy places, im 100% happy with it.
you have already decided to sacrifice some form for having a gamepad, why not sacrifice a bit more form to be able to use it to its fullest extent?