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I just read on engadget that the Htc thunderbolt can autofocus while video recording with a touch of the screen. How come that the Evo doesnt have this capability or no one have implemented this into a rom or anything yet?
Well for one, the evo is almost a year old, the thunderbolt has slightly better specs, and perhaps it wasn't a focus for users, so no one ever asked. Typically the camera is focused when recording.
vlug said:
I just read on engadget that the Htc thunderbolt can autofocus while video recording with a touch of the screen. How come that the Evo doesnt have this capability or no one have implemented this into a rom or anything yet?
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the thunderbolt has vastly upgraded camera than the evo. Engadgets reviews rank it as much much better. I am sure this is why it can.
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HTC Bresson, just revealed by This is my next as being on T-Mobile's roadmap, is the 16-megapixel Windows Phone 7 handset we recently saw a commercial for. According to the blog, Bresson is coming "beyond" the September 2011 timeframe, making it sound like a holiday release is in the cards -- and thus a likely Windows Phone 7.5 Mango build. Note that the hardware being displayed here is almost definitely just a placeholder for the real Bresson, as it seems to be little more than a modified Desire S.
Besides Bresson, we're also expecting HTC to bring the Ignite slate and Prime QWERTY slider to the WP7 family this year, although carriers for those devices (if they are coming to the US at all) remain a mystery. Bresson will likely only be rivaled in the megapixel count by the Altek Leo and Nokia N9/N950, whose premiere teaser advertisement we spotted earlier today. However, as many observers have noted, pixel count alone is not the most significant factor in determining picture quality.
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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agreed. I am curious to see a new Samsung or what Nokia is going to bring Post-Mango.
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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Yea, I was thinking the same thing. Their cameras are...ok, not great. 16mp or 250mp, what's the difference if your quality is just...ok...????
Maybe we'll be impressed but, I'm not counting on anything myself.
Chances are this is the new Sony Exmor R module in the phone. Remember, manufacturers do not make all of a product in these kind of devices (LG/Samsung screens, Qualcomm chip, etc).
I am guessing HTC is not in the optics business. But I could be wrong.
Of course, putting a nice camera module in your phone is only half the battle; you still have to do some programming to get it to work well.
This is... weird.
Looking at the bigger picture here, you would have thought looking at their previous models that HTC would choose Android for a phone that's quite clearly going to be a high end flagship, they wouldn't put a 16mp camera in something that isn't going to be a big model for them.
I wonder if this indicates a shift in their preferred OS, or maybe I'm just reading too much into this
The Snapdragon 8x50 and 8x55 support up to 12 megapixels. The 8x60, which Windows Phone 7 does not currently support, supports 16 megapixels.
Edit: Though I did just notice that the official Qualcomm page says the 8x60 supports Windows Phone: http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/specs
Sounds like it will be pretty nice.
my next WP7 device will be NOKIA......
It is a great sales pitch.
The only HTC device I ever used was the HD7 and the camera was dreadful.
I guess it's just me but HTC seem to make phone that all look roughly the same.
At this time I think I'm going to be looking at the Nokia's WP7 models available In the first quarter of 2012 and pick up one of those.
I don't buy the phone for only the camera. Agree that HTC usually have a worse Camera than other smartphone, but they have a better build quality. Almost all HTC device look damn sexy. For example: HTC Leo and it's younger brother.
if youre into phone camera, nokia is the way to go. a lot of people are very impressed with phone camera nokia has in each of its phone releases. im sure nokia will bring that to their wp7 release. another thing, nokia also has phone releases that are very appealing to teens and they are way cheaper.lol!
well, with stock software my 12mp mozart is ok in daylight situation.
the updated software for the camera (which still hasnt been officially released)
is just awesome, it does near perfect pictures
ive uploaded two of them, currently im not running the updated camera and pictures tend to be bad quallity.
htc really need to step it up, get all parts of their phone working flawless together... like the xenon flash...
root beer said:
I guess it's just me but HTC seem to make phone that all look roughly the same.
At this time I think I'm going to be looking at the Nokia's WP7 models available In the first quarter of 2012 and pick up one of those.
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Nope. Not just you.
What HTC DOES do is reuse their shell and specs, as seen in all the Leo-ish devices. However, that design is a simple, yet beautiful design. I loved my HD2's design & I think the HD7 improved on it in every aspect. But you also have the EVO and such which use the same design.
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well, with stock software my 12mp mozart is ok in daylight situation.
the updated software for the camera (which still hasnt been officially released)
is just awesome, it does near perfect pictures
ive uploaded two of them, currently im not running the updated camera and pictures tend to be bad quallity.
htc really need to step it up, get all parts of their phone working flawless together... like the xenon flash...
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Xcuse me but which 12mpx on your Mozart?!
A typo I think
Anyway daylight pics are easy for almost any camera today.
Show some night ones or in difficult light than we can talk.
aww its only 8 x(
however, in lowlight it gets grain and noisy,
the xenon provides good light for close ups, but thats it
well all im sayin is htc need to push some updates for cameras
but the hardware should be capable of making good pictures...
doministry said:
Just a pity the device is HTC made.
They make the worst cameras don't they.
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Also, touchscreens are poor too compared to Samsung/Apple and probably others. I have the HD7 and it doesn't track smoothly in the horizontal axis (with the phone in portrait more). Presume the HD2 and Desire HD are the same.
Hey all, I've got the new OTA running and I was thinking about my camera quality again. I asked this a while back, but are there any camera apps that improve the quality of a photo? Or is it possible to get the 3.0 camera working on my phone? I've noticed the quality of my mom's thunderbolt's camera to be much better than the dinc, is the hardware actually better, or is it software that is doing the magic?
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Hey all, I've got the new OTA running and I was thinking about my camera quality again. I asked this a while back, but are there any camera apps that improve the quality of a photo? Or is it possible to get the 3.0 camera working on my phone? I've noticed the quality of my mom's thunderbolt's camera to be much better than the dinc, is the hardware actually better, or is it software that is doing the magic?
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There are apps in the market that will supposedly make your pictures look better, but they really just reset filters like brightness. I believe the Thunderbolt may just have better hardware because it's newer. I don't think you can get the 3.0 camera on the OTA either because the 3.0 camera relies upon the newer Sense framework. HTC moved around a lot of stuff between 1.0 and 3.0.
(can't post links still)
youtube[dot]com/watch?v=gymA26jqtTQ
It's really the only thing that's stopping me from buying the Galaxy Nexus. In my opinion the Galaxy Nexus can't take video if that's what it's producing. Anyone here a photography master of sorts that can shed some light on this issue?
Through my research I've found that the jello effect caused by a rolling shutter can be fixed in post production, but is something like this fixable via software/firmware on the phone?
What's going on? It's a bit shocking that nobody is concerned about this issue.
are you serious? "what's going on?"
it's quite obviously image stabilisation.
The sensor basically just relays data, OMAP camera hardware interface process it (stabilisation etc...) and Android presents, maybe tweaks it a bit and saves it.
So an eventual "fix" would be in OMAP firmware, not Android right?
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The sensor basically just relays data, OMAP camera hardware interface process it (stabilisation etc...) and Android presents, maybe tweaks it a bit and saves it.
So an eventual "fix" would be in OMAP, not Android right?
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I don't know, but there is an option in Google Talk to change image stabilisation effect.
I have the same thing,but I think that it is image stabilization.
I've just replicated this issue and must say.. I'm totally not bothered! The image stabilisation is actually pretty good and the ony time i can make it do this is if I jiggle the camera... unless youre planning on trying to mock up an earthquake effect, I dont see this being an action you would do. In fact, due to the good image stabilisation, its pretty hard to do this jiggle accidentally, you must be quite determined to create this "jelly" effect (I'm in the UK, hence I get a jelly effect, not jello )
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091124183445AA8XEj5
If you don't want to read, its because it uses a CMOS sensor. Affects cell phones and DSLRs alike. Hardware related.
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are you serious? "what's going on?"
it's quite obviously image stabilisation.
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May I ask what makes you so sure?
The video effect shown in the original post and in others if you look, mirrors exactly that of the "jello effect" caused by a rolling shutter, i.e. the sensor, more importantly, CMOS sensors. From what I've found: all cameras, even professional DSLR's have this "jello effect" caused by rolling shutters on CMOS sensors. The only, and most common fix I've found is to edit the video in post production.
It's not quite obviously image stabilization considering how this issue is reproduced in the exact same scenario a rolling shutter w/ CMOS sensor would to create the jello effect. Otherwise the issue would occur all the time and not only when panning quickly. The video below should explain.
youtube[dot]com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ITkLwVgxo98#t=61s
This may not be the best example, but it should show you what I am talking about. Others like this can be found by doing a simple Google or YouTube search.
The problem is oscillik is both a) incorrect, and b) an asshole. A dangerous combination to be sure!
couchapple said:
The problem is oscillik is both a) incorrect, and b) an asshole. A dangerous combination to be sure!
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LOL, funny stuff.
I know what rolling shutter effect on CMOS based cameras is. This looks more excessive than rolling shutter, and looks more like image stabilisation.
People really need to stop thinking that SmartPhones are the end all be all. Unless a phone is specifically dedicated for a camera as it's main feature, then of course people should be concerned.
People here really plan on shooting lots of hd video with their phone? If quality really matters a dedicated camera would be better served...from what I can see this is pretty trivial. Then again, the only thing I take video of is dyno runs and fun in bed...
Again not hardware involved!!!
I`m N00B in this forum but i was being for a 4 months downloading roms, from here, so hi everybody....
for this treati have a reply: ITS NOT THE CAMERA ROLLING SHUTTER, ACTUALLY IS THE CAMERA APP!!!!
from the same channel, the same guy, the same galaxy nexus, but different app:
www(dot)youtube(DOT)com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=SFSLnjqIssY
A WAY BETTER...
i saw the noob video, here in xda you have a great group of trollz,
Roxxer_x46 said:
I`m N00B in this forum but i was being for a 4 months downloading roms, from here, so hi everybody....
for this treati have a reply: ITS NOT THE CAMERA ROLLING SHUTTER, ACTUALLY IS THE CAMERA APP!!!!
from the same channel, the same guy, the same galaxy nexus, but different app:
www(dot)youtube(DOT)com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=SFSLnjqIssY
A WAY BETTER...
i saw the noob video, here in xda you have a great group of trollz,
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Awesome! Glad to see this fixed, and nice find by the way. An update to the default camera app will come I'm sure. Until then this essentially fixed the problem, whatever it was, if image stabilization, I stand corrected.
it is image stabilisation, as has been proven by the fact that using another application gets rid of it.
Roxxer_x46 said:
I`m N00B in this forum but i was being for a 4 months downloading roms, from here, so hi everybody....
for this treati have a reply: ITS NOT THE CAMERA ROLLING SHUTTER, ACTUALLY IS THE CAMERA APP!!!!
from the same channel, the same guy, the same galaxy nexus, but different app:
www(dot)youtube(DOT)com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=SFSLnjqIssY
A WAY BETTER...
i saw the noob video, here in xda you have a great group of trollz,
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Would be nice if this comparison could be done using the software mentioned above...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyRxJ5zKSO8&sns=em
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Here's a 1080p video I took at a Football stadium. Big game, I luckily shot the only goal at Arsenal Vs Man City on Tuesday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxsdD7iPpnM&feature=g-all
I tried using the LGCamera app mentioned in the YouTube post but it crashes on launch. Has anyone else had any luck?
GSM version running 4.01.
I use 720p because of the 30fps. 1080p is 24fps on the Gnex.
No thanks to 24fps.
That explains why image stabilization is having a hard time at stabilizing the image at that resolution at the frame rate.
I think image stabilization works best at higher frame rates.
My two cents.
Having said that, I do feel rolling shutter is a underrated issue with smart phones and point and shot. I would much rather have 720p without rolling shutter than 1080p with in.
I think post processing like deshaker is some cool stuff too. There are some really cool videos on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaPNf2Rk4qQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX2v73SOqMk
If they could do deshaking in realtime and eliminate rolling shutting... That would be cool. Some day.
OK, I don't know if my hox is faulty or this is a bug in all of them,
so I ask,
How close can you focus the camera on your hox ?
On my device I can't focus less then 0.5-0.7 meters
and that seems odd couse my old nokia could take
great pictures from even 10cm ...
Well I can easily takes pictures of spiders and stuff like that, pretty close.
lexuz said:
Well I can easily takes pictures of spiders and stuff like that, pretty close.
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can you show me?
Mine just get blurry and unfocused
(and yes, I use MACRO mode)
I've managed to take a picture of a sushi menu from about 5-7 inches away from the surface? I'm a freak for properly focused images, so was pretty happy that with the JB update, the camera seems to be able to focus closer than on ICS.
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I've managed to take a picture of a sushi menu from about 5-7 inches away from the surface? I'm a freak for properly focused images, so was pretty happy that with the JB update, the camera seems to be able to focus closer than on ICS.
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AGRRRR!
So Why can't I?
It's possible, but the camera sometimes seems to go nuts and not focus properly, focusing the background and not the thing you want to take the pic of. Even with touch to focus ^.^
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It's possible, but the camera sometimes seems to go nuts and not focus properly, focusing the background and not the thing you want to take the pic of. Even with touch to focus ^.^
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The right lead doesen't seem focused to me.
Does all of your HOXs has this foucus problem?
I have completely surrendered to the idea of taking macro pictures. My HOX just doesn't do it. So I am with you.
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abejoker said:
I have completely surrendered to the idea of taking macro pictures. My HOX just doesn't do it. So I am with you.
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+1
personaly, i fixed this by focusing behind the thing i want to photograph.
Doorman404 said:
OK, I don't know if my hox is faulty or this is a bug in all of them,
so I ask,
How close can you focus the camera on your hox ?
On my device I can't focus less then 0.5-0.7 meters
and that seems odd couse my old nokia could take
great pictures from even 10cm ...
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For Macro there is a Macro mode given in the camera scenes, beside that after JB update this has been fixed, and focus is like a charm + touch to focus nd shoot is also added. you'll simply love your camera
is it normal sometimes freeze?
manas13 said:
For Macro there is a Macro mode given in the camera scenes, beside that after JB update this has been fixed, and focus is like a charm + touch to focus nd shoot is also added. you'll simply love your camera
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Every phone I've had has taken good close pictures without a macro mode. But ok, I put macro mode on and still it can't focus well. I just did a test tonight...took a EVO 4G, a one s and my HOX and they all took a great picture of the ingredients of my coke. My HOX had it all blurry, even in Macro mode. It sucks.
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In the LGCamera app, there is a macro focus option which will lock the focus to minimum distance.
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In the LGCamera app, there is a macro focus option which will lock the focus to minimum distance.
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Didnt work.
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Doorman404 said:
The right lead doesen't seem focused to me.
Does all of your HOXs has this foucus problem?
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Was on purpose, the leaf is not parallel to the phone only half of it is focused. Let me search another pic that looks better.
But is still tricky, it does not always focus perfectly in Macro.. and when it doesn't work I just close the camera app and try again.
abejoker said:
I have completely surrendered to the idea of taking macro pictures. My HOX just doesn't do it. So I am with you.
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Doesn't that make you MAD ?!
Parsenly, I got the phone because I heard of it's great Camera,
and not having a MACRO mode makes me get angry of HTC.
What were they thinking!? I can't even use it to "scan" a writing
on a note or recite
manas13 said:
For Macro there is a Macro mode given in the camera scenes, beside that after JB update this has been fixed, and focus is like a charm + touch to focus nd shoot is also added. you'll simply love your camera
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Ummm .. So this problem is only on some hoxs ?
Can you show us sharp macro image you took with it?
Doorman404 said:
Doesn't that make you MAD ?!
Parsenly, I got the phone because I heard of it's great Camera,
and not having a MACRO mode makes me get angry of HTC.
What were they thinking!? I can't even use it to "scan" a writing
on a note or recite
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It does makes me angry, because I got specifically the HOX for the Quad-core, 32GB, great screen and camera...Although, I works like charm, and I got JB already, the camera is disappointing. I take pictures everyday since I manage social networks and my phone isn't living the expectations. I need to see if it can be repaired somehow and how much would it cost me.
abejoker said:
It does makes me angry, because I got specifically the HOX for the Quad-core, 32GB, great screen and camera...Although, I works like charm, and I got JB already, the camera is disappointing. I take pictures everyday since I manage social networks and my phone isn't living the expectations. I need to see if it can be repaired somehow and how much would it cost me.
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I believe it must be a bug in software ...
When I try to focus on something close, the phone
IS ABLE to get focus for a moment and then losses it.
(Can't lock the focus)
Any chance it's fixable by some software update?