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[Q] Getting started, some basic questions.

I am a US Cellular user, and I'm coming from a Samsung Acclaim, which had a very simple procedure for modifying it.
I had a official Samsung update tool, and several .tar files, that I could flash to get:
-Root kernel
-A more robust recovery console
-DEDOX Templates
-Modified Kernels (Tethering, etc)
and most importantly
-A complete factory image leaked from USCC
I could basically flash the updated recovery console, and then apply tars and zips and go nuts. And all was good, because I could apply the factory image to be 100% legit again.
I am going to be moving to a HTC Desire tomorow, and after looking over this forum for about 3 hours, I'm scared to death! It looks like HTC is alot more careful/paranoid~ No flash tool, no tar files, no source code, signed packages, RUU/MMS/RADIO and half a dozen other different things that I haven't deciphered yet!
What I need to know are just a few simple questions:
1) Is there a way to root and start doing some mods AND GET BACK to factory? If I can't get back to factory, I'm not going to touch a damn thing. (I think I read there are no USCC RUU files yet, whatever a RUU is lol)
2) Does the Desire suffer from the same internal memory problems that my Acclaim did? My Acclaim had 192MB of internal memory on a factory reset, and after Angry Birds, Facebook, Ebay, and half a dozen other apps, it gets down there pretty fast. From what I've read, it looks like the Desire is worse at 110! Since I don't want to root, rom, up to froyo, and app2sd without a restore plan, am I stuck until USCC releases 2.2 themselves?
3) Can I temp root? On my Acclaim, using the recovery console, I applied a rooted kernel, deleted some crap apps from /system/app, and then reapplied the stock kernel. Is that possible? Or am I gonna run into the same problem as question #1 where going back is impossible at this point because of some RUU issue.

Hey there!
Welcome to the world of HTC Desire (lol).
Anyway, I am going to try the best to answer your questions...
1) same as (3)?
2) Depends on how you manage it, but most of the time, the answer is a definite yes (sadly). And yes, you are stuck unless you have app2sd. You can use this to enable app2sd, but once again, no dice unless you are on 2.2.
3) Check out ""VISIONary" from the market. It's mainly for Desire HD or Z, but you should probably start reading about it here... It basically is a way to gain superuser rights for your current boot. Once you reboot, its gone. There's probably another alternative (saw something in the thread)

I think I was trying to cram too much into each idea. Sorry, let me clarify!
To clarify, USCC has not released a 2.2 update, their Desires have 2.1.
1) I have no problem learned the process, rooting, and installing roms on the phone, to get all the fun stuff I want. But in the case of a warranty issue, where I have to send it back, is there a way to flash a stock rom and undo all changes to a USCC Desire? Can I go back to stock?
2 & 3) Since USCC packed this phone so full of crap, with only the 110MB free on a fresh reset, I can't install the apps I want. I will look into the temp root solution you posted Eden, because if I can eliminate some system apps, and move some apps into that /system/app spot and out of /data, I might get enough wiggle room to get by.
I'll go all out and get a 16GB data partition with the Gingerbread launcher etc etc, but only if I can undo it all. That's my real concern.

[Q] HELP!!! how to get the new evo update with root...COMPLETE noob here guys

hey xda fans....ok so i have a severe issue here:
i have the evo 4g...rooted... and am on sense with 2.2 and 3.70 (i think you guys know what that is) so anyway i want to get the new update and start really having fun with my phone. I have not been able to fully understand all this rooting and flashing etc...O_O so i installed ROM manager, which now some peeps are sayin dont use if you dont know what you are doing WELL HI, THAT WOULD BE ME so for all the experts, gods and godesses of rooting (EVO) flashing, please please please help me from start to absoulute finish...i need to know what am i downloading, running, saving and to where- that was a huge issue too i couldnt find the files after i downloaded them LOL if i am successful...I will post the greatest YOUTUBE, forum, blog about this..i am so lost right now
b4 i forget a couple updates of info everytime i tried to flash or do any type of recent updates i get the usb connection 170 error or maybe 171 cant remember now....ummm...i rooted originally with unrevoked so unrooting i wouldnt have a clue...and yes i have searched allll possible threads for help but i only get 50/50 and then still get messed up..thanks
thanks again and happy rooting

While I am not going to hold your hand as there is plenty of information on these forums and the internet, I will steer you in the right direction. Since you are rooted, all you really need to do is download the rooted version of the latest stock rom. There are a few in the development section. The version is 4.22. After downloading you will flash this rom in recovery. Make sure you do a nandroid backup before flashing the update.
DO NOT unroot just to install the update. You will lose the ability to root hour phone for the foreseeable future.
Good luck
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ok thanks i will try it now...stay tuned

Ur not going to see much difference. The update dissapointed lots of people expecting a new look. Install a couple of custom roms if u want to have some fun. I am using the MikG v1.03 Rom with new sense incorperated and its waaaay better than the stock update we just got.
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Pleat try to see this as advice and not being an ass.
Rooting your phone is really for being able to dig in to your phone and get all you want out of it and be able to customize more than the average evo.
What were your initial intentions for rooting? I get the draw to have free wifi tether but, that just happens to be one perk of it. Of course, there are the options of kernels and cpu clocking.
But, really the developers are attempting to bring the newest and most useful and functional features to the roms opening the full potential of your phone.
Aside from that, if you are unclear and confused about the process of flashing, you should really hold off and do some more research.
Go to the wiki page and read up! i spent about a month reading everything I could find on rooting, flashing, kernels, radios, prls, threads on roms and their issues and up sides. I knew what I was doing and what rom and features I was going to use.
Honestly, youtube will also be your friend. A few devs also post videos people have made about their roms including how to flash them. You should also read up on the results of mistakes made during flashing and how to fix them.
Get to know your phone and submit it to do your will!
Good luck!
Sent by Supersonic!

thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys

dmccoy516 said:
thanks to all...and no offence at all imheroldman. i appreciate every piece of info...well i did flash the new 2.3 and totally hated it no difference...apps were gone (probably my fault LOL) but i went back so ill keep trying until i find the absolute best ROM for me. i may try your advise sand1303 and look at MIK
thanks again guys
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Your apps were gone because you wiped data. Try Titanium Backup - there's a free version in the market that allows you to backup and restore, get the Pro key to avoid agreeing to the permissions/install of each individual app. The Pro version also allows for a larger number of backups per app, where the free version limits to one and when you make another backup it overwrites the first one. You can also freeze apps with the full version, but if you enable "Chuck Norris Mode" in settings the free version will allow you to uninstall system apps. There are other perks to the Pro Key, but I digress...
If you backup your apps & data, you can restore them on the new one. Whenever you flash a new rom, always wipe data, cache and dalvik (dalvik cache is under advanced in Clockwork). If you're simply updating the rom (ie to a newer version by the same dev, like Cyanogenmod nightlies) you can just wipe cache and dalvik unless otherwise stated in the rom. Whenever you flash anything other than a rom - kernels, themes, mods, radios, etc - do not wipe data.
If you don't know which rom to use, as long as you have a nandroid backup you can always go back to your setup that you like... so flash away. If you want to stick with something closer to what you're used to, try Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo... it's still FroYo. If you want Gingerbread/Sense, I've heard great things about MikG. I would avoid any rom that needs you to partition your SD card until you get your feet wet & know what you're doing.
Oh, and if you decide to flash the new radio update, don't pull the battery when you see the screen you've never seen before - you'll brick your phone. Just wait it out, and it'll take you back to recovery where you can then reboot normally.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)

Definitely look at Mik, and learn all you can about partitioning your card for APS2SD, you'll want that for the bigger ROMS, about flashing radios, very important to do that correctly, about theming, and so many other things that being rooted opens up for you.

Mik is great for sure, also kings roms. If you want something that is still htc sense there are many great developers and right now is the time because they are able to merge ports with the ota for the max performance for our phone while running gingerbread and having nifty new 3.0 sense features.
And maybe someday you will venture to the aosp world some day...
Sent by Supersonic!

[Q] Reloaded - Good? How to Upgrade Later?

So I have a Kindle Fire, and it had 6.3. I used Fire Utility to root and install TWRP. Then I installed the MoDaCo Rom 6.3. I am thinking I would now like to install an ICS Rom instead. Looking around, I was thinking of using the latest Reloaded ICS Rom. But most of them look alike as far as features go. Any suggestions on which is best right now? I am looking mostly for stability and lack of problems. Let's say I install the latest Reloaded ICS Rom today, download and install and configure a bunch of apps, and then in a couple days, they release a newer/fixed version of Reloaded. Can it be easily upgraded without losing all of my apps and settings and customizations, or does everything need to be wiped clean and reloaded again? Thanks for your replies!

Welcome to the boards! So in my opinion, every user experience will be different since everyone will use their device differently. Further, you will likely have SOME issues that you may have to live with. (Even on my HTC EVO phone, the rom I use had been in development for many months after I switched to it!).
I am a casual user, primarily using my Kindle for basic browsing, email, Facebook and some games. I am currently using Reloaded, and absolutely love it... but there are some issues with it that I can live with, such as powering off being a bit troublesome. There are threads for all of the common issues with workarounds for the mean time.
With regards to upgrading within a rom type, it will depend on how substantial the update is. Most incremental updates should allow you to simply flash over your existing rom, wipe cache and dalvik, and you maintain your set-up. However if there are fundamental changes to the rom, you may have to perform a clean wipe. Generally speaking though, I think the devs have been good about letting the users know if a full wipe is required for a given new version.
Hope this helps!
(And, if I'm inaccurate anywhere here, other members are more than welcome to correct me. )

Ok, so major revisions may wipe require everything to wipe, but minor/bug fix releases I should be able to flash over-top and maintain my apps and settings. Sounds good to me! I think I will try going to Reloaded this weekend. Anyone else have suggestions? Thanks!

Titanium backup makes switching between Roms/updating easy... make sure you do the pay version if you plan on switching a lot... one touch restore for ALL of your apps at once is very nice and worth the money
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Most of the ICS roms are pretty much the same.
I recommend gedeROM v1.2 and Energy™ ROM

A way to change roms without having to install everything again

ok so i know you can backup your apps through titanium or rom toolbox or something else but what i want to know is there a nandroid like backup that backups everything but the rom...so i can freely switch the rom as i like and then tap 1 thing and have all my apps, data, settings, lock screen / background photos, etc etc back in place. basically what i want to accomplish is to be able to swap roms...is that something that is out there or at least an idea that is the works / maybe something someone would see and have the motive/skill set to make for us. i believe it would be an amazing tool. just go into cwm and not have to wipe data or anything else, just select new rom and the cwm would take care of everything, deleting the rom you have installed and replacing it with the new rom.
any information would be greatly appreciated.

Unless the rom you're running has an update based on the same build and all its features on the update are compatible with your current rom, what you're asking is not possible, every rom or software our devs make made by compiling files and scripts, that take tame to decompile then put back together to make things work properly if not close to it unless you read, if you read the installation suggested methods and it says DO A FULL WIPE, in order to have a successful installation, unless you want a 500$ paperweight, keep on dreaming on your cool idea
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It would be a nice idea and make things a lot easier, but as suprakarma said it's unfortunately not possible. This is probably the biggest reason I don't flash custom ROM's. It's fast to wipe, format and install a new ROM. But then takes time reinstalling and setting up everything again, just like if you were to get a brand new phone.
If I have time on a weekend or am bored then I have given it a try in the past, but with 2 kids and always being on the go it's just not an option to play around with my settings so I just stick with stock. Everything works, everything is set the way I like and I don't have to keep wiping/installing and reconfiguring everything again.
I am missing out on a lot of great ROM's though and would love to give some a try even if for a couple days. Just not in the cards at the moment. Peace.

thank you i didnt think it was possible but was just thinking that it would be cool, like when you go to install a new rom, it would do a backup of your info/data on to your sd card then do a full wipe, install the new rom and then insert your info/data so everything is the way it was (when i say info/data i mean like photos, music, contacts, texts, wifi passwords, apps, so basically combine titanium with cwm and have it all run together in nice move)

suprakarma said:
Unless the rom you're running has an update based on the same build and all its features on the update are compatible with your current rom, what you're asking is not possible, every rom or software our devs make made by compiling files and scripts, that take tame to decompile then put back together to make things work properly if not close to it unless you read, if you read the installation suggested methods and it says DO A FULL WIPE, in order to have a successful installation, unless you want a 500$ paperweight, keep on dreaming on your cool idea
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I actually don't really agree with this post. First of all, I don't think you can create a paperweight by restoring a /data partition.. this just sounds like fear-mongering (I often try doing an advanced restore of /data just in case - It often causes problems, but sometimes it works perfectly and everything is as it was before I flashed).
I think the OP has a great idea, and I think it is entirely possible. In all honesty though.. although I am a software developer, I am not an android dev, so I could just be talking tripe.
We all know that some apps can be restored along with their data across roms and even across roms with a different Android OS. The problem is that there is some data that is not. What we need is a mechanism (perhaps an app) that will identify and 'export' metadata for the system data that is potentially not compatible. Of course, it wouldn't be able to export passwords for accounts etc, but those could be easily re-entered during an "import" of this metadata and could in fact perform all the manual installation and data entry (usually done by the end-user) in an automatic way.
Theoretically, data content shouldn't need to be changed, just the way its stored/read/written, so it might just need to get reformatted with each new rom (there may be exceptions of course).
Practically speaking, this is a beast of a project, and may not be feasible for any dev to undertake. It will likely cause more grief to end-users than anything until all the bugs are worked out (which may be never) and will be difficult to maintain across many devices.
Just wanted to point out that it could be possible in thoery. I would love to hear arguments to the contrary though (love to learn!)

As long as new devices keep on merging they become less development Friendly, and in order for this to be possible, every ROM would need to be equal, meaning no room for development choices, and this feature would need to be on a specially made recovery, what this idea means is to disclosure a nandroid backup, leaving only what is needed for the new ROM, this may have been plausible on gingerbread, and there are much more rom development in progress for developers in order to make what we have to work properly if not close to it instead of working on a project like this, therefore, at least for our device is not possible and there are many threads of users bricking their devices by not following instructions, whipping correctly, not reading etc and I stand for my statements without meaning to flame
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[HOW TO] How to Flash a New ROM & Install all APPS in 10 Minutes …

How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
CAUTION: This method of data recovery will work under a wide variety of situations; however, you must consider the following:
1) When going from a stock or stock-based ROM to another stock or stock-based ROM, this method should work very well. It doesn’t matter if it’s the same ROM as long as both are based on a stock ROM.
2) When going from a stock or stock-based ROM to an AOSP-based ROM, such as CM or AOKP, this method may/will not work. Similarly, when going from an AOSP-based ROM to a stock or stock-based ROM, this method may/will not work.
Use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern as to whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1. Boot into Recovery
2. Make a Nandroid backup
3. Wipe data/factory reset
4. Wipe cache partition
5. Wipe Dalvik Cache
6. Flash ROM
7. DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8. Select backup and restore
9. Select advanced restore
10. Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11. Select Restore data
12. Select Yes – Restore data
13. WAIT!
14. REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)

PeterGuru said:
How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
This method works “perfectly” if you’re upgrading an existing ROM. However, I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work equally well even if you’re coming from another ROM. Either way, use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1.Boot into Recovery
2.Make a Nandroid backup
3.Wipe data/factory reset
4.Wipe cache partition
5.Wipe Dalvik Cache
6.Flash ROM
7.DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8.Select backup and restore
9.Select advanced restore
10.Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11.Select Restore data
12.Select Yes – Restore data
13.WAIT!
14.REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)
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Good to see you here from the one x. I'm glad to be back on Sammy. One x just had too many bugs for me and no memory card was a deal breaker.
This tutorial seems legit, I'm just concerned that doing this could overwrite mods the rom developer implements and cause issues. Any response to that concern?
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Usually use Titanium Backup myself, so I can selectively select which apps to restore with data. If you're going from a stock based ROM( stock modified ) to AOSP ( CM, AOKP, or any of their kangs ) then I don't think I'd recommend this shotgun method of restoring. However Stock -> Stock this is very fast and shouldn't cause any issues.
About mods, not sure, most mods are going to be in /system so those should be fine, however anything themed will be overwritten I believe. ( CWM wipes and restores, not an additive restore correct? )

I completely agree ...
RubenRybnik said:
Usually use Titanium Backup myself, so I can selectively select which apps to restore with data. If you're going from a stock based ROM( stock modified ) to AOSP ( CM, AOKP, or any of their kangs ) then I don't think I'd recommend this shotgun method of restoring. However Stock -> Stock this is very fast and shouldn't cause any issues.
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Yes, Titanium has the advantage of allowing you to selectively restore apps, etc.
RubenRybnik said:
About mods, not sure, most mods are going to be in /system so those should be fine, however anything themed will be overwritten I believe. ( CWM wipes and restores, not an additive restore correct? )
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I completely agree. If you're sticking with a stock-based ROM, or up-dating almost ANY existing ROM, then this method should work just fine; however, like you said, I would not recommend it if going from stock to AOSP, or vice versa.
I would also agree concerning the mods, which are almost always in /system, and aren't the theme files anywhere BUT in the data folder? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Peter

Same here ...
lessthanzach said:
Good to see you here from the one x. I'm glad to be back on Sammy. One x just had too many bugs for me and no memory card was a deal breaker.
This tutorial seems legit, I'm just concerned that doing this could overwrite mods the rom developer implements and cause issues. Any response to that concern?
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I would have to agree. I had far too many little glitches with my ONE X and ONE XL that were just too annoying. So far I could not be happier with the S3.
Peter

Good tip, Peter. I never knew about that one and it will come in handy for me!
Am I the only one who also formats /system in Recovery?

thank you for this! im jumping from stock to diet ics and this tip helped a lot.
im also coming from about a months use of HTC One X. its only been one day with this sg3 and i already prefer it over the htc one x.

Is ROM Manager still advisable or did Koush move on and it is an abandoned project like some of the reviews suggest in the Google Play store? I used to use this to flash and manage my NANDROID's and it was super easy.

P8TRIOT said:
Is ROM Manager still advisable or did Koush move on and it is an abandoned project like some of the reviews suggest in the Google Play store? I used to use this to flash and manage my NANDROID's and it was super easy.
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I just used his Rom manager to flash the AT&T recovery and it works great.
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PeterGuru said:
How would you feel if you could make a Nandroid backup, wipe your device clean, flash a new ROM, restore all your personal apps (with settings, SMS messages, and call log intact), all in about 10 minutes?
Too good to be true? After all, you probably remember what they say about things that sound too good to be true. Normally you shouldn’t believe it. In this case, though, it’s real, and it works! Many people in the DIET ICS ROM thread have already tried it, with amazing success.
As always, there’s a caveat. You perform the following procedures at your own risk. I will not be held responsible for any damage, frustration, anger, sadness, or suicides that may result from your decision to implement this process.
This method works “perfectly” if you’re upgrading an existing ROM. However, I can’t see any reason why it wouldn’t work equally well even if you’re coming from another ROM. Either way, use common sense, and always follow instructions provided by the ROM Developer.
This method also removes any concern whether or not you need to wipe because the process involves doing a full wipe, which only adds about 30 seconds to the procedure.
Here we go …
1. Boot into Recovery
2. Make a Nandroid backup
3. Wipe data/factory reset
4. Wipe cache partition
5. Wipe Dalvik Cache
6. Flash ROM
7. DO NOT REBOOT – STAY IN RECOVERY
8. Select backup and restore
9. Select advanced restore
10. Select the Nandroid backup you made above
11. Select Restore data
12. Select Yes – Restore data
13. WAIT!
14. REBOOT
If all goes according to plan, you will arrive at your home screen with all apps in place, and with all settings intact, including stored text messages, and your call log.
Shockingly easy, isn’t it? After all, it is ALWAYS suggested that you do a Nandroid before you flash any new ROM, so this procedure will ALWAYS have you completely up-to-date.
Okay, you can hit the thanks button now.
Peter
(formerly PeterHTC)
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When I had my old Droid X2 (MB870), this is the method I used all the time, and it was very simple and straightforward, if I am understanding you correctly, this method is conditional in that you have to be coming from an existing flashed ROM? So for instance I just rooted yesterday through Odin but am still on stock, this method wouldn't work for me? It would be awesome if this could be utilized universally for what ever (rooted state), is this in fact the case or what exactly is the specific condition if any?

I will be adding a cautionary note to the first post ...
P8TRIOT said:
When I had my old Droid X2 (MB870), this is the method I used all the time, and it was very simple and straightforward, if I am understanding you correctly, this method is conditional in that you have to be coming from an existing flashed ROM? So for instance I just rooted yesterday through Odin but am still on stock, this method wouldn't work for me? It would be awesome if this could be utilized universally for what ever (rooted state), is this in fact the case or what exactly is the specific condition if any?
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Although this will work under many different circumstances, there are a few very important restrictions, which I will add to the first post in a few minutes.
Peter

Not to with this but there is a software update be AT&T if installed will it take away root?
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Carrier up-dates may be disabled ...
dahlem said:
Not to with this but there is a software update be AT&T if installed will it take away root?
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Although I would like someone to confirm this, it is my belief that, if you root your device, then software up-dates from the carrier no longer work.
Peter

This works fine with ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM
This method I can confirm works perfectly with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM by smartguy044. I installed the Rom and restored everything from a previous stock setup that I did a nandroid of right before flashing. From start to finish the whole process took me less than the 10min as advertised. Just thought I would share just in case anyone was on the fence or concerned about using this with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM.

Thank you for the confirmation ...
hkeyman said:
This method I can confirm works perfectly with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM by smartguy044. I installed the Rom and restored everything from a previous stock setup that I did a nandroid of right before flashing. From start to finish the whole process took me less than the 10min as advertised. Just thought I would share just in case anyone was on the fence or concerned about using this with the ApOcAlYpSe 7_10_12 ROM.
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Thank you for the confirmation.
I hope this helps those who are afraid to flash new ROMs because the entire process (from Nandroid to installing all apps and re-establishing settings), can take hours. I never really trusted Titanium, even though many do, so before hearing about this method, it would take me anywhere from 2-6 hours to get my device back to exactly how I want it, with all settings re-established. Flashing and installing apps wasn't the issue, which took me less than an hour. It's opening every single app and adjusting the settings that often took hours.
Peter

You really don't have to worry about restoring data if you flash a ROM that doesn't format the data partition. I have found that some/most don't wipe data. So you can just flash the ROM and reboot and go on your way. Of course do make a backup just in case.
I use TiBu 100% of the time. Never had it not work.

wgarrido said:
You really don't have to worry about restoring data if you flash a ROM that doesn't format the data partition. I have found that some/most don't wipe data. So you can just flash the ROM and reboot and go on your way. Of course do make a backup just in case.
I use TiBu 100% of the time. Never had it not work.
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You are correct in your suggestion "If" the Rom installed does not wipe or format the data. This is obviously a alternate, fast method for restoration of user data if needed in a pinch or just as a normal way of getting your configuration and apps back to the way you had them configured previously (either stock or on another similar installed ROM).
I am not sure what you meant by you use TiBu and not have it work? When restoring from TiBu you should always just restore missings Apps with Data and avoid anything System related as it would most likely overwrite anything that a ROM customization may have just installed and will cause issues whether minor or even serious. I would suggest only messing with system restore items if you absolutely know what you are doing. That aside I agree with Peter as TiBu as good as a backup as it is, its time consuming...but its another precautionary backup method needed as a just in case.

hkeyman said:
You are correct in your suggestion "If" the Rom installed does not wipe or format the data. This is obviously a alternate, fast method for restoration of user data if needed in a pinch or just as a normal way of getting your configuration and apps back to the way you had them configured previously (either stock or on another similar installed ROM).
I am not sure what you meant by you use TiBu and not have it work? When restoring from TiBu you should always just restore missings Apps with Data and avoid anything System related as it would most likely overwrite anything that a ROM customization may have just installed and will cause issues whether minor or even serious. I would suggest only messing with system restore items if you absolutely know what you are doing. That aside I agree with Peter as TiBu as good as a backup as it is, its time consuming...but its another precautionary backup method needed as a just in case.
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I was just saying that TiBu hasn't lost data or anything. I know about restoring system data. I have gotten away with restoring some of it in the past.

PeterGuru said:
Although I would like someone to confirm this, it is my belief that, if you root your device, then software up-dates from the carrier no longer work.
Peter
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OTA's should work with root as long as you are on stock and haven't altered your build.prop. On that note, I haven't heard anything about a Rogers update?

I haven't heard anything from Rogers, either ...
David Dee said:
OTA's should work with root as long as you are on stock and haven't altered your build.prop. On that note, I haven't heard anything about a Rogers update?
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I haven't heard anything from Rogers regarding an up-date, either.
And thank you for answering the OTA question.
Peter