It has come to light that the various mismatches in album title, cover art, etc which have been plaguing many of the media player apps are really not their fault at all, and that the Incredible builds a database of those items which every other app feeds off.
Of course, those of us who have ever tried to update the ID3 tags or cover art, or change anything around from the first scan, just get the wrong information. Some have suggested renaming the music folder each time you make a change, although that does not always work.
Does anyone *KNOW* (would appreciate if guessers don't respond) how to either trigger a rescan of the MP3 for ID3/Cover Art within the operating system -OR- where the file is stored, what its called, whether it can be safely deleted, and whether deleting it only triggers a rescan?
Thanks!
jdmba said:
It has come to light that the various mismatches in album title, cover art, etc which have been plaguing many of the media player apps are really not their fault at all, and that the Incredible builds a database of those items which every other app feeds off.
Of course, those of us who have ever tried to update the ID3 tags or cover art, or change anything around from the first scan, just get the wrong information. Some have suggested renaming the music folder each time you make a change, although that does not always work.
Does anyone *KNOW* (would appreciate if guessers don't respond) how to either trigger a rescan of the MP3 for ID3/Cover Art within the operating system -OR- where the file is stored, what its called, whether it can be safely deleted, and whether deleting it only triggers a rescan?
Thanks!
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I've never tried in with my incredible, but I do know that it has never worked trying to fix my itunes or windows media player. Yep even itunes mismatches covers with songs and albums. (funny I opened up this thread with an ad on the bottom for an itunes fixer for just the same problem.LOL)
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The title says it all.
Opening the MP3s in any Windows MP3 player show the album pictures.
Any idea why the original music player in the Desire doesn't do it?
Rooted Desire with R5 rom from Modaco.
I've got a similar issue. I can see 90% of my album art but some are missing despite being present in the folder I've put on my desire!
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I had this. I even tried embedding album art in the mp3 and making sure there was a jpg in the same directory. However, the HTC app simply refused to use some no matter what I did.
The solution? I downloaded MixZing from the marketplace. I liked it so much, I upgraded to the non-Ad version.
I couldn't persuade my Desire either.
I embedded all artworks directly into mp3, deleted the albumthumbs directory several times... no luck.
But what is more annoying is that for some mp3s it displays the completely wrong artwork. I opened the mp3 in Winamp, WMP - the artwork is correct. When I play it in Desire the artwork shown is completely different.
PS: Meridian behaves the same way.
Have you tried deleting all the files in the /sd card/albumthumbs folder and rebooting your phone?
I had this issue when I first got the phone, I managed to fix it by clearing out the tags of each album and filling them again, took multiple attempts though.
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I had this issue when I first got the phone, I managed to fix it by clearing out the tags of each album and filling them again, took multiple attempts though.
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this worked for me too.
It does work but only if you never add more music. I always seem to get problems with new mp3s added.
And I never understood where does it take the incorrect artwork from.
clear data at Media Store! Thats works fine!
Settings > Applications > Manage applications > Media Storage
then reboot the device...
xdad, your solution works, thanks!
Hello, guys.
Today I decided to delete all my music from my mobile and move it back again from my computer because I fixed a lot of the mp3 tags etc. What can I say? I'm a perfectionist. The problem is that the Music player -- even though it appears to be reindexing -- updates nothing other than the album pictures that I had embedded in the mp3s. The genres etc are still wrong which led me to believe that it does not really reindex.
I tried all the usual stuff and also tried this weird idea: unmounted the memory card, used Advanced Task Killer to complete shut the music player, went to Settings->Applications and cleared the music player's data (size was only 8kb though), remounted the SD card, but the Music Player still indexed the files with the old tags.
Does anyone have a fix for this?
Thanks in advance,
Louis.
That's an odd problem. Have you tried testing it on an alternative music player application?
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That's an odd problem. Have you tried testing it on an alternative music player application?
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Actually, after a quick search I've found that many people have the same problem. From what I had read, changing a Media Player wouldn't fix it for them either (even Media Players with the built-in option to actually reindex the music). I tried something that at the very least sounded like a stupid idea and it was fixed though. Haha! Moving the files to a different directory than the one that the previous files were in causes the Media Player to completely reindex the files (mp3 tags, album covers etc).
I guess the logic behind it is: The music index file keeps a path to the mp3 together with something like comma separated values for the mp3 tags. Since the updated files I had moved from the PC to the memory card had the exact same filename and only altered mp3 tags, the phone completely ignored the mp3 tags assuming that it was the same file. By moving the music to a different directory you cause the index file to be updated (or even recreated) because the path to the new mp3s is not listed in the index file.
I've been trying to figure this out on my own for a while and haven't made any headway. I have about 3gb of music on the internal memory and about 10gb on my 16gb memory card.
In general I am having trouble getting all of my music to be seen and to play. In the HTC music player most if not all of the albums show up, but are missing songs and the like. DoubleTwist doesn't see any of the songs in the internal memory and has the same issue with not seeing all of the songs on each album. The cubed media player shows 89 albums of "unknown" artist that contain a bunch of the songs that aren't showing where they are supposed to, but have a length of 0:00.
All of the music appears when I browse the card in astro.
I've tried using SongBird's FolderSync to copy the music and I've used doubleTwist, along with just dragging and dropping the music folders. It seems no matter what I have some set of the same issues.
What are people doing to actually get all of their music to copy and play properly?
me too...finally someone else who is seeing the same issue....EVERY 2.2 ROM has done.this and it DID NOT group almost everything into an (UNKNOWN) artist folder ...
I've noticed no media player will read artist folders properly..root explorer and astrology...(file managers) have no problem seeing the files and the proper names its just the phone and its media reader
1900 songs on my media card and 1700 of them are grouped as unknown makes media player almost unusable...
Also I've noticed that if u are looking at artists and go to album view it even reads those and orders those properly but still lists them as unknown artist
anyone have ANY insight would be awesome
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I have spent about 2 days now tagging and retagging my music. I have about 2700 songs all on my internal storage and was upset when it went from being mostly, properly, sorted to all "Unknown Artist". I tagged and retagged and then tagged some more. I changed the album art and double checked all of it time and time again. I've formatted the memory, restarted the phone, flashed an updated ROM and have yet to figure it out.
I am currently using Virtuous 2.5. I had the issue using Virtuous 2.1 and 2.3 and Adrynalyne's Third Wave (but not his FrankenROM). It's pretty annoying. I am hoping that someone can shed the light on this issue. I haven't heard many people talk about it, but it is one of my main issues with 2.2 thus far.
I guess that I'm lucky to have a main gripe be something as trivial as the way it sorts the media, though.
Glad I'm not the only one, but really, did re-tagging help? I don't have the time to do all of that. A lot of my files won't even play, even though they appear on the card in Astro and have a reasonable file size. They show up in the media players as 0:00 length.
Anyone have any success? Is this a 2.2 issue? It occured on SkyRaider 2.5.2, 3.0, and the latest Virtuous ROM.
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Glad I'm not the only one, but really, did re-tagging help? I don't have the time to do all of that. A lot of my files won't even play, even though they appear on the card in Astro and have a reasonable file size. They show up in the media players as 0:00 length.
Anyone have any success? Is this a 2.2 issue? It occured on SkyRaider 2.5.2, 3.0, and the latest Virtuous ROM.
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The extensive tagging did nothing. It made me feel better, because I know that everything is right, but little more than that.
It seems like it is a 2.2 issue of some kind, I'm just not sure of where or what it is. Which is why I came here. I don't see many other posts concerning this issue, so I assume we are either a minority or are missing something very simple.
I just looked through my music more closely after a new sync using the new version of doubleTwist. It looks like the HTC Media Player is not seeing the first 4 or 5 tracks of my albums on the SD card. It looks like it is seeing most of the music on the internal memory.
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I just looked through my music more closely after a new sync using the new version of doubleTwist. It looks like the HTC Media Player is not seeing the first 4 or 5 tracks of my albums on the SD card. It looks like it is seeing most of the music on the internal memory.
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I ran a Media Go (some piece of garbage Sony syncing software) and Windows Media Player sync today. I synced them right over the top of each other, hoping that at least one of them would work. I see a lot of album art and I see a whole lot of songs, but for some unknown reason the Artists are all "Unknown".
Every. Last. One.
I have them split into albums and I've got plenty of songs that seem to be set up properly and have the art that goes with them, but under the "Artist" tab, it refuses to recognize. I never had this problem when I first got my phone and I am sure it has something to do with the newer ROMs.
Again, I don't see many people talking about this... so, I have to be a minority or an idiot. Maybe both. Hopefully I can get the problem fixed. I'm going to go on a tagging spree and try to get a dozen or so songs working so that maybe I can spend another couple of days getting all 2700 or so songs working. =(
Alright.
I did some digging. It turns out that there are either more people with EVOs or they communicate far better than the Incredible community, because I found several threads pertaining to issues similar to this with the EVO.
Thread 747895 right here on XDA.
Android Central has a post about a similar issue - (32456) problems-music-player-after-update under the Droid Incredible section.
Basically, it looks like WMA and AAC files refuse to acknowledge their tags, properly. Sorting them by song name or into folders by album seems to help a little, but the tracks still seem to have issues recognizing artists and track numbers.
There are other problems, apparently, but these seem to be the ones mostly likely upsetting my music player.
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I first documented this issue here, but did not have info at the time that is also affects AAC files:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773905
Go to the google Code reporting thread, sign into google, and star the thread so it will get some bloody attention.
http://code.google.com/p/android/is...ag&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
Update - I discovered that the doubleTwist player will read the ID3 tags properly, so it is obviously not depending on whatever item in Froyo is messing this up that the other players are. The one downside is that it currently does not ignore ring tones, alarms and notification tones stored on the SD card. This is supposed to be addressed int the next upcoming version.
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Update - I discovered that the doubleTwist player will read the ID3 tags properly, so it is obviously not depending on whatever item in Froyo is messing this up that the other players are. The one downside is that it currently does not ignore ring tones, alarms and notification tones stored on the SD card. This is supposed to be addressed int the next upcoming version.
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Using Songbird 1.8 and the MSC plug-in, I transcoded my library to OGG and it is working perfectly. DoubleTwist no longer sees any music, but the HTC player is working well and cubed seems to be running well, except for not seeing any music on the internal memory.
The bug is clearly in how the music players are reading the MP4 files from iTunes. F-ing Apple.
I love the Android system. I loved my Hero and I love my EVO. But it's **** like this that makes me question just how serious is Google about beating Apple because sometimes they seem to do a really half-ass job.
DISCLAIMER: I do not want to use a 3rd party music app because I should not HAVE to use a 3rd party music app. The stock app should JUST WORK.
Anyway... All my music goes through iTunes for tagging and importing album art. I do NOT use 'albumart.jpg.' I just embed the cover into the mp3 using iTunes.
So my obvious question is: why does the stock music app only show SOME of my album art????????????? Why has this not been resolved in the past how many ever years????
What's more is that not only does it not show my album art for some songs, but it shows the WRONG aka, album art from OTHER songs in some songs! For example: in song B it will show the album art from song F. Yet in iTunes, Winamp, my iPod, Windows Explorer, it shows the correct art!
If it didn't want to show any art for some I'd just say, forget it. But it drives me up a ****ing wall when it completely screws up the covers!
I don't have any albumart.jpg's or any other cover jpgs that would point to a cover! I've scanned that SD card thoroughly! I even wiped cache, dalvik-cache!
WTF?!!? This is a question and a rant in one...
And don't tell me, use MixZing or use Cubed - I know they work, I've tried them - my point is, this is the ONLY platform where little things like this are screwed up!
Telling me to use a 3rd party app to circumvent a "FEATURE" that works everywhere else is not a suggestion of a better program, it is admitting that you too believe Android is inferior and you need 3rd party apps to make it work right.
Any suggestions other than "use another app" are welcome.
Actually, this is NOT the only platform where things like this get screwed up. My gf's ipod gets album art wrong all the time, and she gets all of her music directly from itunes.
I never have this problem with my EVO, but all of my music is either from Amazon MP3 or ripped from CDs that I own.
Oh, and why are you so against using a 3rd party app? You do realize that the stock music player is just an app....right? Android isn't based around media consumption like iOS, it's more of a multi-purpose OS. YOU choose the apps you want to make the OS your own. It doesn't mean the OS is inferior. If anything it makes it BETTER.
Of course, if you like to have everything the same as everyone else, I hear Verizon has a new phone coming out on Feb. 10th that you will probably like.
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I put together my own mp3 files/tags/album art myself; sometimes using iTunes if I am working on it at work. Where do you get your music from? Are you sure the information was correct for the files you were attempting to play? So far I have always seen album art for any song I was playing and I cannot ever remember seeing wrong album art. I use the stock player in cyanogenmod 6 and now 7.
How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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Unless you use one of the scripts out there to embed it, all iTunes is creating is a metadata link. It doesn't insert anything.
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Unless you use one of the scripts out there to embed it, all iTunes is creating is a metadata link. It doesn't insert anything.
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Yep, exactly why I asked the question
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My cover art got mixed up before. There are a couple free "album art grabbers" on the market that I've used, they got right. I had to use the app to clear existing album art, then hit "fetch missing art ", then let it do its thing. It was easy, and worked for me.
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I've never been a fan of album art, or at least not of the way its set up on whatever.
My ipod, my evo, windows media player, etc. Its always getting flipped around. Sometimes with albums i download, they come with the cover art, and that art always gets switched with a different album.
I've gotten into the habit of just deleting all album art i find on any devices. It saves hassle. I agree, its a stupid thing, but I don't think its necessarily google's fault. Its just errors with file names, etc.
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I love the Android system. I loved my Hero and I love my EVO. But it's **** like this that makes me question just how serious is Google about beating Apple because sometimes they seem to do a really half-ass job.
DISCLAIMER: I do not want to use a 3rd party music app because I should not HAVE to use a 3rd party music app. The stock app should JUST WORK.
Anyway... All my music goes through iTunes for tagging and importing album art. I do NOT use 'albumart.jpg.' I just embed the cover into the mp3 using iTunes.
So my obvious question is: why does the stock music app only show SOME of my album art????????????? Why has this not been resolved in the past how many ever years????
What's more is that not only does it not show my album art for some songs, but it shows the WRONG aka, album art from OTHER songs in some songs! For example: in song B it will show the album art from song F. Yet in iTunes, Winamp, my iPod, Windows Explorer, it shows the correct art!
If it didn't want to show any art for some I'd just say, forget it. But it drives me up a ****ing wall when it completely screws up the covers!
I don't have any albumart.jpg's or any other cover jpgs that would point to a cover! I've scanned that SD card thoroughly! I even wiped cache, dalvik-cache!
WTF?!!? This is a question and a rant in one...
And don't tell me, use MixZing or use Cubed - I know they work, I've tried them - my point is, this is the ONLY platform where little things like this are screwed up!
Telling me to use a 3rd party app to circumvent a "FEATURE" that works everywhere else is not a suggestion of a better program, it is admitting that you too believe Android is inferior and you need 3rd party apps to make it work right.
Any suggestions other than "use another app" are welcome.
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I like the music app, simple easy to use, I can scroll through text to find my album really quick, oh yeah apple screws up tags all the time, I have a collection of cd's burned from itunes and I am loading them back into my computer windows nor itunes knows whats on the disc
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Actually, this is NOT the only platform where things like this get screwed up. My gf's ipod gets album art wrong all the time, and she gets all of her music directly from itunes.
I never have this problem with my EVO, but all of my music is either from Amazon MP3 or ripped from CDs that I own.
Oh, and why are you so against using a 3rd party app? You do realize that the stock music player is just an app....right? Android isn't based around media consumption like iOS, it's more of a multi-purpose OS. YOU choose the apps you want to make the OS your own. It doesn't mean the OS is inferior. If anything it makes it BETTER.
Of course, if you like to have everything the same as everyone else, I hear Verizon has a new phone coming out on Feb. 10th that you will probably like.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G with Tapatalk
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I was venting buddy, no need to be a ****. As for the iPod, I've never had album art problems, yet I do have them w/ the EVO. Both issues unlike yours so obviously not all devices are 100% perfect...
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How exactly are you inserting the album art in itunes? You're not just using the "get album artwork" functionality and calling it a day, are you?
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Nope, I don't do "get album artwork." I've done literally THOUSANDS of mp3s where I'd put them into an iTunes playlist and manually insert the album art through the "edit" or "get info" or whatever that menu is called. I'd say 80% of the time it works.
If I buy a song from iTunes, convert it to MP3 and put it on my EVO the album art ALWAYS works. If I have an album art-less MP3 and insert an album cover using iTunes, it only works about 80% of the time.
Anyway, this is moot now b/c I found out what the problem was. The album art was being cached on my EVO. I have 2 music folders inside my "Music" folder. I just renamed those 2 folders and the Music app now reads 97% of the album art that I've done through iTunes even old-ass MP3 from before there was album art, it works through iTunes.
Sorry to resurrect an old thread.
I am severely anal about my music collection. I have around 17000 songs in it over years of ripping and way too much money spent on Amazon MP3 . I use Media Monkey to make sure all my album art is correct, everything is tagged correctly, all files are named correctly. I even deleted all images for album art and had media monkey add them to the mp3 tags themselves. Believe me it's all fine in the various DLNA/uPnP apps I use in Android, iPad, and PC's (XBMC, 2Player, etc..)
Every time I pull a bunch of files down to my phone (Nexus S) the album art ends up getting screwed up with art with the wrong albums etc (I never pull anything but full albums). I've gone in and wiped the music player data and had it rescan.. Same thing.. A few will come up bad. It's annoying. I mean how hard is it to keep the art for specific MP3's in the database correctly. It doesn't feel like rocket science.
I haven't been able for the life of me figure out exactly why this is happening only on the Android music player.
Alright, so this has been bothering me first some time now.
When I go to my music app, I've noticed a bunch of my songs being labeled under "Unknown Artists".
Now, it never use to do this so I don't really understand how it happened.
I checked my SD card and everything in Root Explorer to see if there was any data corruption, but everything looks normal.
Has anyone had this problem before? What would you guys recommend? Thanks!
Another weird thing: I try to go to change the tags so I can put in the correct artist, but the Tag already shows the correct artist. The library just displays it as "Unknown Artists"
This has appeared on multiple music apps btw
The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.
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The tags on the song aren't done correctly. Happens a lot on torrented music.
Download any of the countless album art/ artist finder apps and fix it.
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Well, I don't know. The tags USED to work, and app finders are led to believe the tags are correct except in any Music App.
I'm having the same problems. I spent a few hours making sure all the tags were right using media monkey and still, my epic does not pick up the artists. picks up album art, albums, song names just fine. I think it may have something to do with iTunes. I used iTunes and converted all my music to m4a's (iTunes AAC format) and I read somewhere else that the android uses ID3v2 tags? Correct me if I'm wrong but thats the next step for me... converting everything to ID3v2 tags (if they aren't the same that is).
EDIT: Yes. I just converted one artist from .m4a (aac) to a .mp3 using iTunes and that solved it for me; that band now shows up under the Artists and not under Unknown. Hope this helps others.
If you need help I can post more.
More proof that ITunes is the Devil...?