I'm trying to get used to the stock browser because Dolphin is still having issues with re-texting when you pinch to zoom, and I can't figure out how to close the browser. With Dolphin, you can hold the back button, and it will turn off, so that when you reopen it it takes you to your home page. With the stock browser, if you go back it just goes back all the way through all of the pages you've looked at, until you go through them all and it turns off. It's like it doesn't want to you to close the browser at all, but if you just go to home when you're done with the browser, it just reopens the last page you looked at instead of your home page. Am I missing something glaringly obvious?
Don't think you are missing anything, but it is a little annoying to me as well. Best thing I can suggest is to hit the home selection in the browser by hitting menu/more/home...not great, but it works (still extra touches though...more than necessary) It's nice if you want to multitask, but very limiting if you're just trying to end your session and have your next launch bring you to your home page..
a dev needs to create a quit/exit button for the stock browser; right now, the only way to close it is by keep hitting the back button until it closes and it takes awhile for that;
uh, the home key will get you out of the browser. maybe i'm misunderstanding...
Hitting the back button until it "closes" on the stock browser would be like hitting back button on your desktop browser, then hitting minimize when there are no more entries in history. The process will still stay until Android decides to kill it.
There are 2 issues being confused here:
1. If you want to truly stop the process, you can use one of the capable task managers to explicitly do so;
2. If you want to just have a window open the home page with no "back history" then hitting the back button will accomplish that. Sometimes the back history has too many entries for this to be practical. So, alternatively, you can:
- go to Menu > Windows
- hit the "+" to add a window
- Menu > Windows
- close out the previous window keeping the new one only
- back button to "close" the browser
Not as nice as other browsers, but hope this helps.
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Hitting the back button until it "closes" on the stock browser would be like hitting back button on your desktop browser, then hitting minimize when there are no more entries in history. The process will still stay until Android decides to kill it.
There are 2 issues being confused here:
1. If you want to truly stop the process, you can use one of the capable task managers to explicitly do so;
2. If you want to just have a window open the home page with no "back history" then hitting the back button will accomplish that. Sometimes the back history has too many entries for this to be practical. So, alternatively, you can:
- go to Menu > Windows
- hit the "+" to add a window
- Menu > Windows
- close out the previous window keeping the new one only
- back button to "close" the browser
Not as nice as other browsers, but hope this helps.
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What I was looking for was a more elegant solution to your 2 above (although that works too, I'll try it for a while and see how much of a pita it is) - I have no problem with it ruinnning in the background as long as it went back to the home page whenever I went back to it. I was hoping that there was a button I was missing that essentially took you out of the browser back to home and reset the browser back to the home page at the same time.
This is why I don't use the default browser.
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This is why I don't use the default browser.
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I'd love to go back to Dolphin HD, but until they update to fix re-texting on pinch to zoom, the stock browser is just faster and smoother.
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For those of you who dont like the SenseUI...
Last night i was playing around with my brother's new galaxy and installed aHome Lite (free from android market) to gain extra screens for him to use. I then decided out of curiosity to install it on my hero (this will probably work on all ROMs but i have a pre-rooted 2.73.405.5 ROM ala Modaco just for the record)
Those who have used open home or ahome will know that after installation the the home key brings up the option to choose what home panel to use, same thing happens with the hero but not only does it bring up TouchFLO and aHome options but also the standard Home option.
Simply uninstall aHome and your stll left with the to remaining options, 'Home' and 'TouchFLO'. By clicking on 'Home', you will get the default android home screen, simply kill the TouchFLO process in Taskiller (once inside the default Home interface) and voila
I'm not sure this has already been discovered...if so mods please delete this thread.
Peace.
i want to customize the app/dialog which is displayed when pressing home key (normally touchflo starts, but as we can see this can be modified).. any1 knows how to?
go into settings->Applications->Manage. Scroll down to TouchFLO and go into it then click on "Clear Defaults". Now press home button and it'll give you the option to choose which one to go to and you can also tick the "Use this as default" or whatever it says.
thx but this is not what i meant.. i have another app, which should be displayed after a long press on the home key..
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thx but this is not what i meant.. i have another app, which should be displayed after a long press on the home key..
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longpress home only shows recently started apps. i don't think there is a way to modify that behavior yet.
for those using multiple home apps i would recommend Home Switcher. useful little app
But surely the recently started apps are also the currently running ones too
I'm just thankful the press and hold of Home actually does what it should now and act as a switcher.
It still acts as "apps currently running" for me.
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go into settings->Applications->Manage. Scroll down to TouchFLO and go into it then click on "Clear Defaults". Now press home button and it'll give you the option to choose which one to go to and you can also tick the "Use this as default" or whatever it says.
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I would like to try this, see what the Hero looks and runs like with standard Android interface.
If I do, and I want to return to the standard Hero setup, do I just reselect "Use this as default" when selecting TouchFlo after pressing the home key?
there must be the ability to change the behaviour of long pressing home key, since at least on rooted phones everything at software level can be modified..
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I would like to try this, see what the Hero looks and runs like with standard Android interface.
If I do, and I want to return to the standard Hero setup, do I just reselect "Use this as default" when selecting TouchFlo after pressing the home key?
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Yup, thats right. If you do find u have accidentally set the Android interface as default, just clear the default the same way you had with the TouchFlo from the 'Manage Applications' menu.
Peace.
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It still acts as "apps currently running" for me.
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How do you know and why there are always max 6 of them ? You think, but for sure this is a list of last used applications ... try to kill some of them and see the list - they are still there.
What I was thinking is a "short home press" usage, which has no function if you are already at "home" ...
Actually I wanted to write "apps recently run".
People claiming they changed it to "apps currently running" with the new update but I am not sure if that's the case.
Hi
Just got my Desire and I like it so far!
It's a multitasking phone - allegedly! - but I haven't worked out how to have more than one program running and to switch between them. If I fire up the Internet, for example, can I leave it running and open Messages, for example, and then Maps? I realise that widgets are sort of multitasking but what about programs?
Cheers.
maccboy
Press the Home button to exit an active application and go back to home. You can then open up anything else you like and leave the original processes in the Background. Hold the Home Button to see recent apps and click the one you want to return to (or select the icon in the menu, Either way)
KYI
Thanks. But how do I switch between running (open) programs? How do I know what is running? I thought you would be able to use the seven screens for different programs and flick between them.
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Thanks. But how do I switch between running (open) programs? How do I know what is running? I thought you would be able to use the seven screens for different programs and flick between them.
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press and hold the home button to get a list of recently used apps, also u can use a task manager to see what apps are running
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My only gripe about the trackpad wake mod (while it is awesome), is that we do it in order to avoid reaching for the awkwardly placed power button, but then we still have to reach for it anyway when we want to shut the screen back off. So it only helps us for half of the task.
After trying to find a way to directly map the search soft-key (or any of the soft-keys) to a power button, and failing, I've decided to come at it from a different angle. Attached you'll find a very simple app, that simply turns off the screen when clicked, along with instructions on how to map it to the search soft-key or the rosie button for sense users.
[Options]:
1. Search key short press. This is the method I use, as it is both the fastest and accessible from within any app. It will completely replace the search key. Single-tap it at anytime to turn off the screen. You'll need to install the app, and push the keyboard remapping file that I have also attached. Note that there are 2 different key mapping files, one for Sense ROMs and another for Vanilla. They will make the following changes:
Sense version:
-Search soft-key is now mapped to the user programmable key #2. Set it to open the Kill Screen app.
-www/com key is now TAB.
-USER 3 key, which didn't work anyway, is now BACK.
-USER 2 key, which is now not needed, is HOME.
-USER 1 key (left of the space bar) is left as normal.
Vanilla version:
-Search soft-key is now mapped to the user programmable key #3. Set it to open the Kill Screen app.
-USER 3 key, which is now not needed, is now BACK.
-USER 1 and USER 2 are left as normal.
2. Rosie's right button. This is for those who want to keep the search key as normal. See my rosie remap thread here for the option to have it launch when you press the right dock button. Keep in mind you still need to install the app, and you'll (obviously) have to be viewing one of the home screens to press it.
NOTICE: Do not post asking me to adapt this key layout to your needs, as we will end up with 500 different files before long. Instead, change it yourself! Editing this file is about as easy as it gets. You don't need anything special installed, or any programing experience whatsoever. Simply open the attached (or your own) vision-keypad.kl in any text editor (Notepad, Notepad++, etc) and change your desired key to your desired function. If you want to know what key corresponds to what number, you can boot to clockworkmod recovery --> advanced --> key test. Touch any key on the phone, and it spits out the number.
NOTICE #2: As with any app that is given administrator permissions, you will need to remove the app from the admin list in order to uninstall it. Menu --> Settings --> Security --> Select Device Administrators --> Uncheck Kill Screen. Then uninstall as normal. You will be reminded to do this when you first give the app the admin permissions.
[How To]:
Method 1 - Install the app, then grab a copy of the modified key layout and then reboot to recovery and enter this code:
adb shell mount /system
adb shell rm /system/usr/keylayout/vision-keypad.kl
adb push [your saved file location]\keypad_owamod_xxxxx.kl.zip /system/usr/keylayout/vision-keypad.kl
Reboot and enjoy.Method 2 - Install the app first, then see the linked thread for how to get the modified rosie.apk
That's pretty awesome Will definatley try out when I get a Z
Great news but something like that exists already for a few monts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795811
I used it on the Nexus One and now on the Desire Z.
Works great! Thanks a lot!!
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Great news but something like that exists already for a few monts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795811
I used it on the Nexus One and now on the Desire Z.
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Not quite.
You should read the whole post, people fail to do so far too often on this forum. Of course the app exists, there are multiple versions, both pay and free, on the android market and floating around the forums.
What does not exist, is the remapped key file to make the app launch with a short press of the search key (method #1) and the remapped rosie buttons to launch the app from the right dock button (method #2).
The only method I really cared about is the short-press search button (method #1), which completely replaces the search button, so that it functions to turn off the screen (like it should have been from the factory) like the G1. This also allows it to work while the screen is still locked, so you can single press the trackpad, check the time/messages/missed call, then turn the screen back off without ever unlocking it! But I made this mod and guide, so that you have THREE options: the long-press method (like the one that you linked to) AND two NEW ways.
Using all of the default files while running CM 6.1.1 Colourized, I can get my DZ to sleep only by long-pressing the Search button, not a short-press.
I checked the .kl file and confirmed the USER2 key is 217 and that matches my Key Test number in Recovery.
A short-press of my Search button doesn't do anything.
I've set KillScreen as the default app for the long-press and it works as it should, but I'd like to leave that as a Search (Vlingo) button and have a short-press go directly to KillScreen.
Suggestions?
I tried the Rosie_killscreen.apk , it installs ok i get the little power icon on my Rosie launcher bar but when I press it, it doesn't do anything, I tried to re-download the file in case it was corrupt and re-install it but the same thing happens, nothing. I installed the Rosie_contacts.apk and it work fine but can get the Rosie_killscreen.apk to work. Has anyone gotten the Rosie_killscreen.apk to work?
EDIT- My fault forgot to install the main app..... Sorry, let me try this again.
Update: The app works great on the Rosie_launcher, Just a reminder to install the KillScreen.apk first, then follow the process for pushing the app to the Rosie launcher.
I like this very much!! I have Launcher Pro Paid and I have set it up as one of my swipe options on the dock.
I use cm6.1.1 lockscreen gestures and the "screen off and lock" app. I setup a gesture of "L" and link the gesture to the "screen off and lock" app so when I am on the lockscreen and do a "L" gesture and it shuts off the screen. I also have it set as a shortcut in the dock for adw launcher too so I can lock/screen off just by pressing it. So far it works great.
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Using all of the default files while running CM 6.1.1 Colourized, I can get my DZ to sleep only by long-pressing the Search button, not a short-press.
I checked the .kl file and confirmed the USER2 key is 217 and that matches my Key Test number in Recovery.
A short-press of my Search button doesn't do anything.
I've set KillScreen as the default app for the long-press and it works as it should, but I'd like to leave that as a Search (Vlingo) button and have a short-press go directly to KillScreen.
Suggestions?
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I'm not really sure what the issue is. If you choose the method where Kill Screen acts as the short-press search, you will not have a long press function anymore.
I'm experiencing a problem with the long press method where the screen turns off for a second but immediately turns back on to the lock screen. Manually launching the app shuts off the screen properly. Anyone else getting this?
I am having problems downloading the 2 .zip files
I use the one called "Lock Screen Button" in the market. It's simple and the icon is very clean.
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I'm experiencing a problem with the long press method where the screen turns off for a second but immediately turns back on to the lock screen. Manually launching the app shuts off the screen properly. Anyone else getting this?
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After a bit of testing I'm pretty sure this has something to do with the capacitive buttons remaining active for a very brief time after the screen shuts off: since the search button is held while the kill screen action runs, it immediately triggers wake. Pressing the power button while holding down any of the capacitive buttons has the same effect (screen turns off then back on to lock screen).
I'm guessing this can be fixed by adding a delay to turning the screen off. Or by setting the capacitive buttons to not wake the screen somehow.
Can't uninstall kill screen app
I installed the KillScreen.apk, however if I try to uninstall the app via the manage applications I get "Uninstall not succesful" and app is still in my applications list.
How can i permanently remove the KillScreen.apk?
As for the app not working properly with the long-press method, you are right, it seems to be bugging. I will take a look and hopefully get a new version up soon. The other two methods work ok, but I don't use that method, so I didn't do enough testing
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I installed the KillScreen.apk, however if I try to uninstall the app via the manage applications I get "Uninstall not succesful" and app is still in my applications list.
How can i permanently remove the KillScreen.apk?
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This is the second time in one thread I've had to quote someone and tell them to READ. Do they not teach you kids to read in school anymore? READ PEOPLE. You are working with rooted phones in a programming development forums, you SHOULD have some smarts to you.
Since you missed the "--WARNING!!!!---:READ:---WARNING!!!!--" text in all caps across the whole screen when you first gave the app permission, allow me to take my time to type it again for you: You need to remove ANY app that has been given administrator permissions from the admin permissions list in order to uninstall it. Since you gave this app administrator permissions, you need to do so. Menu, Settings, Security, Select Device Administrators. Uncheck kill screen. There will be a pop up box. Do not just hit the ok blindly, READ that too. Then uninstall.
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Since you missed the "--WARNING!!!!---:READ:---WARNING!!!!--" text in all caps across the whole screen when you first gave the app permission, allow me to take my time to type it again for you: You need to remove ANY app that has been given administrator permissions from the admin permissions list in order to uninstall it. Since you gave this app administrator permissions, you need to do so. Menu, Settings, Security, Select Device Administrators. Uncheck kill screen. There will be a pop up box. Do not just hit the ok blindly, READ that too. Then uninstall.
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Dude relax, no reason to get so agitated!
I actually did press the ok blindly, the reason for that was that the phone didn't do anything after the installation. So i tried to tap the screen to make it work and by accident tapped the ok button before reading the warning post.
If you do tell people to read, please give them the information to read. Either put it in first post or put it somewhere inside the app so people can re-read it.
I managed to uninstall the app, thanks for the info.
Relax, cheers
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Dude relax, no reason to get so agitated!
I actually did press the ok blindly, the reason for that was that the phone didn't do anything after the installation. So i tried to tap the screen to make it work and by accident tapped the ok button before reading the warning post.
If you do tell people to read, please give them the information to read. Either put it in first post or put it somewhere inside the app so people can re-read it.
I managed to uninstall the app, thanks for the info.
Relax, cheers
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Actually I do have reason to get agitated! (Even though I wasn't that upset at the time, my posts often just come across that way) Because after 2 years of seeing stuff like this with android users, it gets very tiring! For example: the countless comments on the market for an app that says in the description "ONLY works on Nexus 1" and the commenter says "Does not work on Droid" and rates it 1 star. But I can forgive those, because its the general public. On a development forum, however, I expect nothing less than every member to have their wits about them. Though, realistically, it's probably just wishful thinking.
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Actually I do have reason to get agitated! (Even though I wasn't that upset at the time, my posts often just come across that way) Because after 2 years of seeing stuff like this with android users, it gets very tiring! For example: the countless comments on the market for an app that says in the description "ONLY works on Nexus 1" and the commenter says "Does not work on Droid" and rates it 1 star. But I can forgive those, because its the general public. On a development forum, however, I expect nothing less than every member to have their wits about them. Though, realistically, it's probably just wishful thinking.
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Lol! I do that same thing in my thread. It's hard to not snap on some people lots of times. I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people just don't have the brain power to read/comprehend certain things. I've had to learn to relax a bit... It's quite useless to argue with them because it just rolls off them with no worries while people like us simply struggle to understand why and end up getting pissed off. It's tough being cynical sometimes
Thanks for the little app! Just some feedback. Wanted to install method 1. Followed the steps. However, it still acts as method 3, long press on search, instead of just the short press. Running Virtuous 0.8.1.
I'm hoping the discussion in this thread can inspire devs to really tweak Android.
An article I read a while back through Daring Fireball really got me thinking on how to fix the back button. This quote in particular:
They’ve replaced dumb hardware buttons with equally dumb software buttons.
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http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/01/16/android-buttons
This is also a good discussion on the topic:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/10/2...uidelines-update-settings-navigation#98209921
This is what I've come up with:
The back button should be dimmed or not visible at all when looking at the home screen.
This should also be the case for looking at the home/main scene of an app, for this reason:
The back button should never take you out of an app to the home screen, that is what the home button is for.
Instead of using the back button to close apps, use the task switcher to swipe away and actually close unwanted apps.
I know all this is possible, I just don't know how feasible it would be. I would love to see these changes in Android, what do you think?
I actually use the back button to exit out of applications, this way the app get's a chance to save any information to files. if it's forced closed, these writes can sometimes get missed and cause inconsistencies in the app (or lost time if game progress is not saved).
Having it on the home screen maintains a consistent look that many people appreciate. What i find is fantastic now is how the button rotate to the right place regardless of orientation, I KNOW that if I'm in landscape, the buttons will always be on the right hand side.
The buttons also dim down to dots in some applications (not sure if it's a new API) look at the camera app to see this in action. This removes the aesthetics of the bright buttons while leaving the functionality.
I guess you can argue about anything these days. The software keys will work better as apps are updated to 4.0 API, but to get full use out of them use AOKP, or just remove them altogether and use LMT's Pie menu. Problem fixed.
If the user accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to where he was before. If the user opens Maps from the Gmail app, and the user wants to go back, the only way to do so is by pressing the back key.
If the user is in the App Drawer, accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to the app drawer, and not back to the home screens.
The home button doesn't close the app, but tells the app that it's moved to the background.
The back button closes the app, tells the app it is being destroyed and lots of memory will be given back to the system.
With Android, it's possible to open app X within app Y(if the developer of app Y wants the user to do so). It wouldn't make any sense if the user had no way to undo that operation.
In my opinion, the navigation buttons are used properly.
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Matridom said:
I actually use the back button to exit out of applications, this way the app get's a chance to save any information to files. if it's forced closed, these writes can sometimes get missed and cause inconsistencies in the app (or lost time if game progress is not saved).
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The Android Documentation states that developers should save their data when onStop is called. onStop will be called both when user presses the home button, and when users presses the back button. So in theory, both buttons should work fine.
The buttons also dim down to dots in some applications (not sure if it's a new API) look at the camera app to see this in action. This removes the aesthetics of the bright buttons while leaving the functionality.
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Yes, that's an API. It's possible to dim those buttons in some apps(like gallery/camera), and it's also possible to hide those buttons. The buttons will re-appear as soon as the user touches the screen. Look at the YouTube app if you want to see the buttons disappear and re-appear.
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If the user accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to where he was before. If the user opens Maps from the Gmail app, and the user wants to go back, the only way to do so is by pressing the back key.
If the user is in the App Drawer, accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to the app drawer, and not back to the home screens.
The home button doesn't close the app, but tells the app that it's moved to the background.
The back button closes the app, tells the app it is being destroyed and lots of memory will be given back to the system.
With Android, it's possible to open app X within app Y(if the developer of app Y wants the user to do so). It wouldn't make any sense if the user had no way to undo that operation.
In my opinion, the navigation buttons are used properly.
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I agree. I dont think it is "broken". It works well for me and I hate using my friend iPhone because it doesnt have a back button and I have to find it on screen.
Matridom said:
I actually use the back button to exit out of applications, this way the app get's a chance to save any information to files. if it's forced closed, these writes can sometimes get missed and cause inconsistencies in the app (or lost time if game progress is not saved).
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I'm not talking about force closing apps, just regularly exiting apps only when they are swiped away from the multitask menu. I agree with everything else.
miketoasty said:
I guess you can argue about anything these days. The software keys will work better as apps are updated to 4.0 API, but to get full use out of them use AOKP, or just remove them altogether and use LMT's Pie menu. Problem fixed.
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I'm not talking about removing the icons altogether, just make them contextually aware.
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If the user accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to where he was before. If the user opens Maps from the Gmail app, and the user wants to go back, the only way to do so is by pressing the back key.
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This isn't the case anymore with ICS. I think the multitask button should be utilized instead. Granted, it's one extra tap, but I think it's more consistent.
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If the user is in the App Drawer, accidentally opens an app, it wants to go back to the app drawer, and not back to the home screens.
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I don't think that should happen. I realize that I'm arguing against actions Android has done since it's inception, but I believe that they are wrong now.
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The home button doesn't close the app, but tells the app that it's moved to the background.
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The home button shouldn't close an app, they should never have to unless the system decide when it needs to close an app, or the user does by swiping it away.
juliano_q said:
I hate using my friend iPhone because it doesnt have a back button and I have to find it on screen.
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The same is for me as well, muscle memory is much faster. I just think the potential of the virtual back button is not even being scratched at yet.
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This isn't the case anymore with ICS. I think the multitask button should be utilized instead. Granted, it's one extra tap, but I think it's more consistent.
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In Android, there are 2 ways of launching an app:
- As a new Task, this will add the app to the multitask interface
- As the same task, the new app won't be added to the multitask interface.
If you would like to see the second one, go to the Play Store, and click on the Email button. The Gmail apps opens. Now press the home button and open the multitask interface. You won't see the Gmail app, only the Play Store. If you open the Play Store, it'll open the gmail app, since it's the same task.
Press the home button again, and open the Gmail app(from the app drawer). The draft of the Play Store email won't show up, but it'll open the Gmail task that you opened before(for example, your latest received mail).
So, the multitask button won't work properly when the second way of launching an app is used.
The home button shouldn't close an app, they should never have to unless the system decide when it needs to close an app, or the user does by swiping it away.
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In some cases, the back button would fit better. When you're in the Paypal app and want to close it, it's much easier to press the back button(then the user logs out), instead of pressing home, multitask button, and swipe away(thats 3 times as much time/energy).
In Android, there are 2 ways of launching an app:
- As a new Task, this will add the app to the multitask interface
- As the same task, the new app won't be added to the multitask interface.
If you would like to see the second one, go to the Play Store, and click on the Email button. The Gmail apps opens. Now press the home button and open the multitask interface. You won't see the Gmail app, only the Play Store. If you open the Play Store, it'll open the gmail app, since it's the same task.
Press the home button again, and open the Gmail app(from the app drawer). The draft of the Play Store email won't show up, but it'll open the Gmail task that you opened before(for example, your latest received mail).
So, the multitask button won't work properly when the second way of launching an app is used.
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I actually agree with this. The back button would be used to to back into the store. GMail was never really opened though so it wouldn't have to be closed.
When you're in the Paypal app and want to close it, it's much easier to press the back button(then the user logs out), instead of pressing home, multitask button, and swipe away(thats 3 times as much time/energy).
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In this case, I believe it is up to PayPal to have a Log Off button on the main scene of their app, and possibly in a context menu in other scenes.
although I get your main premise, I think it might be extra confusing when you have buttons just "randomly" disappearing and reappearing.
martonikaj said:
although I get your main premise, I think it might be extra confusing when you have buttons just "randomly" disappearing and reappearing.
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Maybe not disappear, dim would work
thereddog said:
Maybe not disappear, dim would work
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Possibly. But I think what you're looking for is a fundamental reworking of the OS here. The "Back" button is meant to work a certain way (completely at the OS level), and changing that changes everything.
What you're really looking for is the iPhone setup, where all you have is a "Home" and "Multitasking" (just double tap home, could be a separate button). All "Back" functions are handled at the app level, not the OS level. Back buttons are placed at the discretion of the developer.
The consistency provided by the Android way of handling "Back" at the OS level has many advantages I think.
The software keys actually work great. I've never had a problem with them. The menu key always comes up when its needed and I'm not finding myself missing the search key either.
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the whole back button talk has got me thinking. do you guys think the back virtual button will go away any time soon since the new style guides want a back button in the top left corner.?
The way the android back button works is simply brilliant and I hope it never changes. The application stack is very thoroughly thought out and designed for a specific reason. As already mentioned there are many examples/situations that wouldn't be possible if there was no activity stack history with the back button function. You just have to learn how the activity stack works.
And yes you should ALWAYS use the back button to leave an app, never home. It clears that activity stack. Only time to use home is when you want to background said app to come back to later, ie multitasking.
I pray to god they don't change the way the back button functions. I like having all my keys lit up whenever I'm not using a full screen application. I like that the back button goes through different apps/pages when you close out of it. This just integrates multi-tasking soooo much better. I don't want to have to wade through different clicks and apps just to get to a place I was before (i.e. backing into a different application). I'm not sure I understand the premise of this... please elaborate?
It is entirely possible to implement this in the OS, it's just a question if Google wants to do this. I personally am well adapted to Android's back button, and find it much better for multitasking than Apple's iOS design. Example:
1. Open Twitter, click on link from Tweet
2. Android opens the browser, I read whatever was posted, then hit back
3. I return to my Twitter feed, ready to move onto the next Tweet
This works in a multitude of apps, from Reader to Google Music to anything that wants to keep the previous app alive in the background. Can you imagine having a back button in the Browser that could both take you back a page and also take you back to the app you used to launch it? Apple's iOS solves this by eliminating any form of efficient multitasking in my opinion, as you have to double press home and select the previous app. The iPad does it better with gestures, but a soft back-key would easily suffice.
Additionally, Apple's iOS also has a varying design for the back-key, it's in different places for different apps. I personally love the static back-key on Android, and I've used both on a daily basis. You could dim the back button when on the home screen, but that would leave a gaping hole in the Navigation bar, in addition of wasting RAM/Processing power continuously disappearing and reappearing the key when you move from home-screen to app.
I know there is the "buttons" menu in settings and it gives some options for which button does what and button swap but I want more!
Like, long press the back button to kill an app (useful for closing the web browser, for instance, instead of hitting back a billion times or menu - close)
Or adding a menu button since many older apps don't always have a menu option on them anywhere and rely on that button.
I would love to swap the recents button with menu since I generally long press the home button for recents anyways but so far I can't seem to find an option to do so.
Can someone please help point me in the right direction? Thanks!
I just found this thread in search of the same solution. It seems like it's an Android level feature developers choose to include or not. My OnePlus one on 5.1 was the last time I've seen that menu, and I really want it back. It's so annoying to not be able to customize my buttons exactly how I like them, especially since that menu is something that's been in Android for so long. Feels like a step back.
Install All in one gestures app.
Don't be fooled by app's name, it does exactly what you ask and something more.