hi all,
as i was testing my new desire using the 4gb card it came with, i did all the rooting with that card in, am now running on defrost 3.1 and all my mods are done.
I tried to partition my other 8gb card using the rom manager on another phone as my phone wont run without the sd card in, then once that was done, i cloned the cards ie copied the data on my mac, then copied it off to the new card.
started the phone with the new card but most features of defrost are not available and alot of the apps are missing.
now when you go to the application manager, it shows you where stuff is installed but it says they are on the phone, presume this is cos a2sd is more of a tricking the phone than a physical change of location for the installed apps
anyway, so my question is, can you change the sd card without re installing the rom?
thank you in advance
anyone????
jason4656 said:
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sorry mate didnt see this till now. in short no.
your phone should work without an sd in it, format the 8gb card use rom manager to partition or use AmonRa fake flash to partition (i prefer this way) and start over again. i know its a pain but its the safest way to do it.
i personally wiped everything on sd and phone so there was no partition and nothing on the phone, then i flashed my rom (dont do any mods yet) then either using amonra or rom manager, partition the phone may take a while to boot up but just LEAVE IT. then do everything again ie mods and apps. long i know but like i said its the safest way also you cant **** anything up.
hope this helps
I have been loading all the roms and just realised my sdcard is getting filled.. therefore can format my sdcard?? Will it remove the rom or change the S-off or brick my phone??
Can replace my 8gb sdcard with 32gb sdcard? Should i do anything extra to make sure it remains rooted?
Can force close be caused only by software issues or even hardware?? I ask this coz a month back i had dropped my phone and it did not start for couple of hours. After that i have being having issues with many roms and many apps esp market force closing and the clockwork recovery not flashing properly...
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Your OS is installed in the internal storage of your device, not your SD Card. Formatiing your SD Card does nothing to your ROM at all. Force Closing is most probably a permission issue. Try Fix Permission in ROM Manager.
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Your OS is installed in the internal storage of your device, not your SD Card. Formatiing your SD Card does nothing to your ROM at all. Force Closing is most probably a permission issue. Try Fix Permission in ROM Manager.
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Thanks Armedand...
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MEkANiK said:
I have been loading all the roms and just realised my sdcard is getting filled..
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Do you mean you are keeping the ROM files, and/or nandroid backups on your SD card? After you flash a ROM, you can get rid of the zip file. Or copy it to your desktop computer, if you think you might want it again in the future.
Similar thing with nandroid backups. I usually just keep the most recent one on my SD, and move the rest to my PC.
Some apps save data to the SD card. If you want to upgrade to a larger SD, just copy the files you need (or think you might need) to your desktop computer from the SD, then copy them to the new SD card, and swap the cards out. Upgrading the SD card is that simple.
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Do you mean you are keeping the ROM files, and/or nandroid backups on your SD card? After you flash a ROM, you can get rid of the zip file. Or copy it to your desktop computer, if you think you might want it again in the future.
Similar thing with nandroid backups. I usually just keep the most recent one on my SD, and move the rest to my PC.
Some apps save data to the SD card. If you want to upgrade to a larger SD, just copy the files you need (or think you might need) to your desktop computer from the SD, then copy them to the new SD card, and swap the cards out. Upgrading the SD card is that simple.
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Not the zip files but the original rom which installed.. i asked this bcoz when rooting i had to create gold card change the value and so on.. so i wasn't sure if that would be affected if i formatted the sdcard or deleted all the folders ..
i have trying out many softwares, and now i dont even remember which is ones i have removed and which is need(lots of folders, some where created by some roms i hard tried)... since i always backup imp data on my pc.. i have no worries there..
just wanted to clean up whole thing since i have figured out all most all the sw i will need..
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Like I said in the title after flashing cyanogen 7 even from the very first time i've done it a bunch but i've only backed up one of them so that's shouldn't use that much space. My sd card went from 2gb to 312 or so mb? I have no idea how to get space back and i'm scared if i use rom manager to partition it I will lose my recovery's. I'm not worried about anything else but that. Everything else is backed up on my pc. Can any one help me? I can't be the first person that has went through this.
jclare85 said:
Like I said in the title after flashing cyanogen 7 even from the very first time i've done it a bunch but i've only backed up one of them so that's shouldn't use that much space. My sd card went from 2gb to 312 or so mb? I have no idea how to get space back and i'm scared if i use rom manager to partition it I will lose my recovery's. I'm not worried about anything else but that. Everything else is backed up on my pc. Can any one help me? I can't be the first person that has went through this.
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If you copy everything from your sd card to your pc before you repartition, then your nandroid backups will be safe because they're stored in a folder called clockworkmod on the root of your sd card. You can simply reinstall afterwards from your pc back to your sd card.
should i copy them to a compressed zip file? Because that is what I am doing now and after it is complete I was going to either wipe sd card or partition. Then hook it back up to my pc and drag and drop to sd card.
ok copying to both but the zip is gonna take a while
You're transfering through your usb cable? Shouldn't take too long.
yeah it's done now, only one song couldn't be transferred so do I use the zip or regular file when copying back? never answered. Thanks.
Restore them to whatever state they were in before you took them off the sd card.
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Hi everybody. I am trying to get my daughters phone set up. She is 20, very busy, and I only get the phone an hour or so at a time which is frustrating. I have modded my own android phones(Note, Infuse,Gnex) so I'm not a beginner, but this captivate glide is acting a little different.
Here is where I am. CWM is installed and a backup of 2.3.6 is done, and a copy saved on my laptop. I have ardatdat's 1.2 version kernel ready to flash for root and to remove the IQcarrier junk. She will probably stay on stock, rooted since she is not into teching her phone but does want to remove ads and maybe tether to a tablet occasionally on ATT without a tethering plan- tit BU and freezing or removing the tethering manager.
I am having trouble getting the phone to recognize an 8 gb sd card. I have repartitioned it so more apps can be moved over(primary fat32 and logical-ext 2) and split the card to 4gb and 4gb.(approx)- even when just left as a one partition card with 8gb fat 32 the phone just won't recognize it. I put the old 2gb card into the phone and that one is recognized but is from a non android phone- an LG xenon.
I want to put the zip files to flash on the external sd card along with a few apk's ti install with the appinstaller. But.. the phone won't see the files. Do I have to use the internal storage?????
Don't have the phone now- it's off to work with her. So I will try later tonite. Any suggestions??
Thanks. Open for any help here. I have never had this much trouble before! Have searched for sideloading apk's, but from what I am finding it has to be rooted first??? I have checked unknown sources for install of 3rd party apps and usb debugging also checked.
I will continue my hunting for info. I'm sure it's just basic stuff I'm just not seeing. Thanks again
Ah. CWM Recovery is not compatible with the external sd card, I believe. It's located under /sdcard/external_sd but the zips are invisible in the recovery. So yes, I think you have to use internal
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Ah. CWM Recovery is not compatible with the external sd card, I believe. It's located under /sdcard/external_sd but the zips are invisible in the recovery. So yes, I think you have to use internal
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Thanks for that. Did not read that anywhere! Any idea about apks on the external sd card?
Ive tried that too... The apps are located in the data partition on the kernel so that is already directed to internal... The only things most people put are Media like movies because music players scan the entire /sdcard partition and the /external_sd is in it.
Hope this helped ^o^
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sashusmom said:
I am having trouble getting the phone to recognize an 8 gb sd card. I have repartitioned it so more apps can be moved over(primary fat32 and logical-ext 2) and split the card to 4gb and 4gb.(approx)- even when just left as a one partition card with 8gb fat 32 the phone just won't recognize it. I put the old 2gb card into the phone and that one is recognized but is from a non android phone- an LG xenon.
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You may need to format the sd card in the phone itself to get it to show up, some people have had problems with cards formatted in other devices or a pc.
I haven't tried a dual partition card in the Glide, but I came from a Motorola Flipside which had an absolutely tiny amount of space for apps, making link2sd and the second partition virtually mandatory. The Glide, however, has 2gb internal memory for apps, and the ~3.75gb internal memory that's mounted as /sdcard that you can store apps on with the standard Move to SD build into android, so I can't imagine anyone needing more storage than that for standard apps.
You can always points Titanium Backup to /sdcard/external_sd, my backup folder tends to get pretty big since I keep multiple backups. If she's installing a ton of games that have extra downloads to the sdcard though, you can fill up the internal "sd card" pretty quickly, and there's only a couple of ways to deal with that. She can give you the phone after installing those games and downloading the extra data, and you can manually move the data over to the external SD and create symlinks yourself, which can be tedious.
Alternatively, you can modify the vold.fstab to change the mount points, putting the real external sd as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/external_sd. There's instructions for this here. The vold.fstab method is what I personally use, as I've got a 32gb sd card and far too many games that want to download 500mb+ each.
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You may need to format the sd card in the phone itself to get it to show up, some people have had problems with cards formatted in other devices or a pc.
I haven't tried a dual partition card in the Glide, but I came from a Motorola Flipside which had an absolutely tiny amount of space for apps, making link2sd and the second partition virtually mandatory. The Glide, however, has 2gb internal memory for apps, and the ~3.75gb internal memory that's mounted as /sdcard that you can store apps on with the standard Move to SD build into android, so I can't imagine anyone needing more storage than that for standard apps.
You can always points Titanium Backup to /sdcard/external_sd, my backup folder tends to get pretty big since I keep multiple backups. If she's installing a ton of games that have extra downloads to the sdcard though, you can fill up the internal "sd card" pretty quickly, and there's only a couple of ways to deal with that. She can give you the phone after installing those games and downloading the extra data, and you can manually move the data over to the external SD and create symlinks yourself, which can be tedious.
Alternatively, you can modify the vold.fstab to change the mount points, putting the real external sd as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/external_sd. There's instructions for this here. The vold.fstab method is what I personally use, as I've got a 32gb sd card and far too many games that want to download 500mb+ each.
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Hi and thanks. I just read about that mod. Is it as straightforward as just rewriting that file in rootexplorer? It sounds too easy!
I was gonna format the sd card in the phone but was not sure it would format the internal card and not the external one since I can't seem to get it recognized. I would be in big do do if I erased her stuff!!! It might be a bad card and I'll try an alternate one.
Yep, it's really as easy as snagging the file, editing it, and rewriting it in root explorer (or a shell, I haven't bought root explorer so I tend to do things from the shell). As for formatting in the phone, it should list both an SD card and USB storage, the usb storage is the internal storage, and the sd card is actually the sd card, it *should* have a format option there if the card is good, even if it's not seeing the files on it.
Thank you all!!!!!
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Yep, it's really as easy as snagging the file, editing it, and rewriting it in root explorer (or a shell, I haven't bought root explorer so I tend to do things from the shell). As for formatting in the phone, it should list both an SD card and USB storage, the usb storage is the internal storage, and the sd card is actually the sd card, it *should* have a format option there if the card is good, even if it's not seeing the files on it.
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Piece of cake!!!!! :highfive: We now have the external sd card (only 8gb for now) mounted instead. Whoever came up with that very clever work around is genius. That's better than apps2sd or link2sd.
Thank you so much to everyone who responded. Between all of you I have Rooted with the kernel on the internal card, and the appinstaller saw the apks when I put them on the internal card. My original 8gb card was bad. It was a cheap one- $5 or $8 dollars. I got 2 and the 2nd one works fine- formatted in my computer and phone saw it immediately. I transferred the stuff from the internal to the external. Did I need to do that? I left it on the internal incase the sd card is removed. Tethering manager is removed- att junk is frozen.
One more question if I may? If another rom is flashed, or I odin back to stock for whatever reason, does this sd card switch stay, or is it overwritten with the new rom? Just need to know what to do if I ever need to reset this phone.
I also added my google account to the market to put my paid apps on her phone but when I signed in to the play store under my account my paid apps did not show as paid. Anyone know why? I worked around it but I was surprised.
Again thanks to such a nice group of people! :highfive: I had a crash course in the captivate glide in 24 hrs. You gave me info here I don't think I could have found with continued searching.
sashusmom said:
I transferred the stuff from the internal to the external. Did I need to do that? I left it on the internal incase the sd card is removed. Tethering manager is removed- att junk is frozen.
One more question if I may? If another rom is flashed, or I odin back to stock for whatever reason, does this sd card switch stay, or is it overwritten with the new rom? Just need to know what to do if I ever need to reset this phone.
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Moving everything that was on the internal memory to the SD card was a good call, since you swapped the mount points everything that stored stuff on the internal memory will now expect that stuff to be on the sd card. There's no need to keep it on the internal memory (you can delete everything there and it'll recreate LOST.DIR) unless you plan on swapping back at any point, in which case you could just copy stuff across before swapping back.
As for flashing another rom, that'll require you edit the vold.fstab again unless the rom has already made that change, which none of our existing roms have.
Personally, I keep the internal memory completely empty as far as daily use things go. CWR will store its backups there, as it mounts the memory independently of the vold.fstab, and all roms/kernels/etc you want to flash can go there, leaving the sd card free for things you actually use.
Bak- thank you so much for all the info. I saved the original file and I will make a copy of the edited mount file in case I need it again. If I ever get her phone back I will clear the internal card since that info is now on the external one.
I wonder how long this captivate glide will hold up with my daughter. She is very hard on her cell phones. Already case #1 broke due to a drop. 2 more are on the way. When I pointed out it could have been the phone broken she said- yeah, I know. I'll keep the case on. :victoryshe hates cases!) Hopefully this phone will get her thru her senior year in college!
Thank you everyone who pitched in to get me the info I needed to get it going. :laugh:
I only just started having this issue after flashing 4.2.1. I am trying to put a new update on my phone, but when I have it connected to my PC and click Internal Storage, it's empty and there are no folders or anything, although it shows the space used and available. I tried putting the update in there, but when I booted my phone into recovery, I couldn't seem to find the zip I put in there.
This is always how I've done it previously.
What's going on here?! Am I just doing something wrong?
Thanks
i think i heard that some roms have trouble mounting the sd card not 100% sure though