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I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
buy a HD2 instead. (!!!11!1!!!)
Why did you buy an Android phone if you want to install WM 6.5 on it?
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
You can argue (From a technical pov) that WM6.5 is a real OS and that Android isn't. In fact even Symbian would be more of a "Real" OS than Android. The difference is that those two OSes can run native code and Android just runs everything via Java. This doesn't mean much to most users but to developers it means a lot.
someone please shut this thread before the OP gets flamed to death......
If native code means a deficiency of decent apps, where even the few good ones are jerky, clunky and Windows CE...ey then I'm all for Java - go Java.
I left the HD2 because Windows Mobile is unreliable (believe it or not) because it was never meant to handle such complex skins as Sense UI and therefore leaked memory like a teabag full of pulped brain; and also because there was a deficiency of decent apps (despite its supposed ability to handle 'native code'). If it's so great then why are most of the .cabs people install fixes and patches rather than ACTUAL apps? And why are there no decent alternative Facebook apps etc? Is Windows Mobile 'TOO GOOD' for this sort of software development? For an OS a fifth of the age of Windows Mobile, Android has ten times as many IM apps (for example). Why is this so?
Android allows for one to code/install apps for even CORE applications like SMS and Email: show me a decent email replacement for Windows Mobile? One that ACTUALLY REPLACES the native one....you can't? Android can.
And as capricious as it might seem the rubbish email client in Windows Mobile was one of the reasons I started to loath the OS. What is the point of the 'click to scroll right' and 'pictures blocked for security reasons' BS??? Is it REALLY necessary? And why is it so....ugly?
Anyway I thought I'd get my word in before this thread gets closed. If you can't move with the times then go and buy a TyTn 2 or something. Outlook syncing will soon be as dead as Windows Mobile so for Google to include it would be a backwards step, being as more necessary features are still to be implemented.
It's all about the cloud.
P.S. research before jumping in and buying a phone as you seem to have very specific requirements. Outlook task and notes syncing is a VERY SPECIFIC requirement which in the overall scheme of a burgeoning OS would be deemed unnecessary by Google. I wouldn't buy a Renault Megane if I needed a tractor.
I think it's just a case of people not liking change at all. So the different and sometimes better things that Android provides seem not so good.
Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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For work purposes most likely? Information that has to be stored securely in outlook on a system which they DO NOT want in the cloud? But would like to sync via hard wire or secure connection to the device?
Outlook syncing will be alive as long as Microsoft push it and businesses continue to use it and would rather not have information in the cloud, even Windows Phone 7 offers outlook syncing, it isn't going anywhere.
I havn't tried but doesn't htc sync allow to sync with Outlook?? I though that was what it said on the box....
Anyhow, i've just come from an HTC Touch HD where i have tried all the versions of windows and senses and other interfaces and i have to say i am loving my new desire!!!!
I am no developer but Android is so much better adapted to a smartphone, it's fast, fluid and allows all sorts of customization and when i had my HD, as far as i can remember, there were like 20 apps on the marketplace, i thin android market is at 30.000???? No question, no comparison!!!
An app on the Market - Touchdown allows tasks syncing with outlook. Not sure about Notes.
But to be honest, as has been said, why spend €500 on a phone and not have done any research into wether it will do what you want it to.
Not only that, but if its a problem, then in most instances you wil be able to return it within 7 or 14 days for a refund (less any charges) so you should have done that.
Whats the moral of this tale :- Always do your research!
solaris78 said:
I'm very unhappy with my new Desire. It is of course, also, the problem regarding "the change" from WM to Android, but... I cannot choose "My location" and now I just discovered that YOU CAN'T SYNC NOTES AND TASK with Outlook. This is unbelievable! If the problem with My location and weather shown in the HOME Screen it's not so serious (you can check the weather on line) the problem with the sync it's awful, and there is no program on the "market" to solve it.
I can't believe that I just bought a 500 euro phone and it is so useless. Is there any chance to replace the famous "Android" with a real OS like WM 6.5 (from HD2) for example???
Please I'm desperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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If you had such explicit requirements, why didn't you do the research before hand?
Regarding issue with syncing tasks, use the calendar to create your tasks in outlook, use an app on your computer called google calendar sync to upload it to a gmail account, then you'll have them on your phone... simple.
Gustibus non disputandum est!
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Why do people still use Outlook is beyond my belief
Why do people still sync to a computer (that can only be in one place at a time) is again beyond my belief.
I have my Desire for 2 weeks now and I never even installed the sync app, don't even know what it looks like.
But to answer your question: NO you can't replace Android to the fake ... i mean real OS Windows Mobile.
I came from Windows Mobile and I couldn't be happier i got rid of it. Stop thinking offline, and start thinking cloud sync... it'll eventually be the default weather we like it or not.
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what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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solaris78 said:
That means (I hope I write it down correct): the tastes are not questionable!!
I did my research before buying this toy, and I can return it in 30 days (10 to go), and the HD2 was the first option but the sizes ... to big for me.
At the office I use Outlook on my laptop to do notes, task, appointments (on my laptop)... and so on, and when I'm on the field maybe I need some of them, so.... I WILL LIKE TO SYNC MY NOTES FROM LAPTOP WITH MY PHONE. What is so hard to understand? That not everybody use the phone for games and billions of apps which are doing the same thing. In 3 hours of searching I found not more than 5 interesting application (and the WM has 3 of them in the original OS). That's all!
Why I use Outlook ? Because I have a job and an server e-mail and like any more than 70% of this world computers I use MIcrosoft Software. I received an advice from one forum: use Gmail notes! You gotta be kidding ! This 500 euro phone should have some real business apps. I don't use phone for music, pictures and games, instead I need a mail client which allow me to select different mails and mark them like read, or unread. I receive hundreds of mail daily and I need to organize them. What it's so hard to understand?
Give me a break with this Android OS. I hoped that will be different than Iphone but it's the same sheet. I prefer to have notes instead Facebook...social communication ! And tasks instead youtube!
When I bought this phone I never thought that the sync software will not sync notes and tasks. The 5 years old Nokia or Sony that I used then had it. MY problem is that the solution is so simple but you prefer to tell me that I have 3 billions of apps, why I need notes when I can play poker or chess?in 5000 languages.
In my opinion Android is a great software but ... for this price you should think that are some people which are trying to use it for the daily job and not for messenger to pick-up minor teenage girls.
One of you wrote: why do you use Outlook, get on-line... Some information will never go on-line... company policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yes Android it's more simple to use than WM, but because it's simple he does simple things, but I NEED MORE! so I guess I need WM, complicated but it has what I need; it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
thanks anyway!
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Yeah after reading a bit, i think that you didn't really put much research into this... On your statements i would recommend Blackberry, its for emails, tasks and sync.
solaris78 said:
it's just like cars: some people like muscle cars (pure power and simple technology), but others prefer German or Japanese cars which are maybe a little bit complicated but they offer something different.
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Show me the man who looks to buy a broken car, and I'll show you a HD2 that actually works as it's supposed to
solaris78 said:
what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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dude, the thing is, YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT THIS PHONE. Period. When you bought it you know, it's running android. As for syncing with outlook, you could have research it before hand. If you explicitly use it for syncing with outlook, and your work has a lot to do with microsoft software, why did you not buy a windows mobile device? answer me, plz.
What next? ppl are gonna come out complaining they cant install windows mobile on their iphone? give me a break.
solaris78 said:
what mail client do you use: Gmail, yahoo? are you in the kindergarden? or maybe you use phone for Facebook and Youtube. It's so cool you can see your friends on-line. Take care, maybe someday you will lose contact with the real world, and than you will be in the MATRIX... and poor me I'll be offline!
Sorry I couldn't resist ! but now seriously :WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THIS PHONE ?
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I'm actually working for a global telecom company as IT, so your statement above makes me laugh.
Do you guys don't separate your work life from your personal life? Are you doing work all the time.
My phone is exactly that, MY phone, not the company's phone, not the work phone. I'm not paying MY money to have a phone for work. My company gave me a phone and that's the work phone, that's the phone i'm called when someone from WORK wants to reach me, that phone is for work mail, that phone is for the stuff you said you needed. That phone that has the features my work requires from me.
This phone is my personal phone. I don't want to be contacted on this phone, I don't want to do work on this phone, it's MY phone and yeah, I do use Gmail as a personal email, I do use Google Calendar as my personal agenda, I do use Google Contacts and many many other cloud applications Google offers and I couldn't be happier. I want Facebook on MY phone, I want YouTube on MY phone.
Oh and that outlook you so much want is just a fronted to a MTA server, be it POP3, IMAP or Exchange. If you're not working for a secret spy agency most likely those MTA's are public and accessible from the internet. Why not connect to those and insist to connect to Outlook? If your company uses Exchange you can set up this phone to use it also, and you can sync everything outlook has ... through the cloud (that is if you work in a normal company that actually lets users check their mail when not at the office), so you don't need to be connected to anything, just need internet on the phone.
I configured the Exchange ActiveSync from my work account the phone and works like a charm, if i put an appointment on my phone it shows up on Outlook after a few minutes "just like that", if i put an appointment on Outlook it shows up on my phone "just like that". To tell you the truth since I got this phone, i never once hooked it to a computer, only transfered via Wi-Fi and Bluetooth sometimes.
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So basically you're here to have a rant because you made a poor choice when buying a phone. Fair enough.
For what it's worth, I work in IT, and I use the Desire to keep a watch on my company email and calendar, sync'ed from Exchange Server. Does the job just fine. I don't use notes in Outlook because what ever you want to do, there is always a better alternative, even a note app on the phone itself would do a better job.
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No man, I don't have a rant here, just trying to explain myself. It's not fair what happens to me here, because I asked a question and everybody jumped on me instead helping me. Exchange Server it's a great solution but unfortunately my company will not use a server for this. And for me there is no better alternative than Outlook, WE ARE DIFFERENT, accept it. I installed 10 notes apps, but none have sync with outlook. I know that I can use notes directly on phone but it's much easier on the laptop.
I repeat: I can, and probably I will return the phone. I love how it looks, dimensions, the hardware... and I was thinking that maybe because it's a software problem it can be solved. Why are so ... LOCKED ?
Ok, i've been looking around and have found a few, but I was wondering what everyone else is using.
I need to use my phone for business, and quite honestly, the built in contacts app is lacking a few features. The worst is lacking the ability to sort contacts by company name or last name.
If you have replaced your contacts app, please let me know which one you are using and what you think about it.
Thanks!
If you're using Froyo, you can open up contacts, menu, More, Display options, then pick Sort order (and some other configurable settings).
I've tried a couple contact managers in the past.. and none were any good. I would just search appbrain or androidzoom.com, etc.
Hope that tip helps though.
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Thanks, I have played with Froyo a bit, but went back to Eclair due to some issues. I was thinking of trying the latest release, so thanks for the info.
I have searched though the app stores and have found a few, but based off of reviews and lack of updates, I didn't feel they were all that good.
I wish I had the time to learn to code, I would just make one myself...
Ok...i'm off to play with Froyo
Well, Froyo does allow sorting by last name, but it does not offer any other sorting methods
Anyone else have any experience with alternative contact managers?
i have an epic, running 2.2, and using launch pro plus they have a people widget, works pretty good
Haven't had a good business contact manager since I got rid of the Treo 755p. Maybe if enough people rag on Dataviz they will port over their contacts database called: Beyond Contacts
I'll take a look at the widget, but I'm looking more for a true contact manager.
Beyond Contacts would be a promising port if they were interested.
I am surprised with all the apps that are out there that a decent contact manager doesn't seem to exist.
Have you tried Youlu Address Book?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/youlu-address-book/com.youlu
I think its pretty slick.
kiekan said:
Have you tried Youlu Address Book?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/youlu-address-book/com.youlu
I think its pretty slick.
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pressed your thanks button by mistake, youlu is good, but doesnt have # or * buttons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been able to group my contacts into countless categories, and even put contacts into multiple categories (friends and coworkers for example) once I logged onto my contacts list via Gmail, creating my own categories, clicking the checkbox that the person applies to and then automatically gets synced it to my phone. I have to click a few times (Phone > Contacts> Groups > Google) to get into those categories vs just going directly to my list, but its still easier and almost quicker to use then when I was using ContactsGroupU on my Moment.
EDIT: Mod please correct spelling in topic title. Rushing combined with no proofreading isn't good.
I searched, couldn't really find what I felt was accurate information with what little was available. I need to change Gmail cause the one associated with my DInc is years old & become cluttered with junk. I realize I can export my contacts from the original then import to the new at which point they should sync with that account.
Big question. What about apps? How can the purchase history be changed, app info backed up. Just any opinions, advice or whatever. Prefer to do it right the first time.
Basically would like to have work completely as is but with fresh address.
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Since everything is associated with your Gmail account, I presume you'll have to contact Google about it. I am not sure if they've made changes to allow that or not. You also could contact the developer of the app, they may be able to help out too. It seems like it is an issue for a lot of people, so if you find an answer, please share your steps!
For apps I guess it would depend upon how you paid for them. I use Google Checkout so all my app purchases are linked to my account. The dev has to keep that information somewhere to verify that you bought it but not sure that you could get it out of them that easily a lot are just ma and pa devs and who knows what they keep around. Also not sure if Google allows you to rename your email address but it might be an option in account settings. That way you don't have to open a new account and all your Google accounts would be updated.
I went into my account but didn't see any thing in the settings which would allow you to rename the email account. Google tech support might be able to do it if you contacted them.
Hi there,
Facebook put out their new app this week
unfortunatly, the contact synching is not working ...
i opened a request here : https://www.facebook.com/help/community/question/?id=1845593
maybe if the link is shared, and a lot of people ask for a fix, they would fix it ?
I thought ICS didn't support contact syncing with Facebook anyway? The feature seemed to come and go on my Desire depending on how frosty Google-Facebook relations were at the time.
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It's something that Google won't allow happen until facebook gives in to their demands. They demanded that it be programmed in a certain way and facebook said "screw you". So Google said, then your syncing no longer works.
It doesn't work on any Nexus phones that I know of...at least not directly from the official facebook app.
All Facebook has to do is use the Android Contacts API, which they so far are refusing to do.
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Chrono_Tata said:
All Facebook has to do is use the Android Contacts API, which they so far are refusing to do.
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All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.
MikeyMike01 said:
All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.
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How dare you talk about Google that way?
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pr3cision said:
How dare you talk about Google that way?
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Google is probably one of the least likeable companies around.
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What we actually have here is two differing philosophies about ownership of data.
Google believes your data is portable. They believe that once you import data, you own it, and you should be able to export it. If you give me your phone number, I know own that data. Example: If you decide you don't want me to have your number any more, you can't do anything about it. You can't make me forget it or tear up the piece of paper I wrote it down on. You shared it, I imported it, it's now mine.
Facebook disagrees with this. Facebook believes that the phone number only belongs to the person who's phone it is. They believe that if you share your phone number with me, I have to give it back and forget about it if you ever ask me to. Because of this, Facebook does not allow integrating contact info. They only allow Facebook contact data to exist "along side" your other data. So if someone unfriends you, you lose their contact info, picture, etc.
Google, on the other hand, recognizes that this is fundamentally stupid. If you share your data with me, I can keep it if I want, and I can export it to my contacts list if I want and if you don't like it then don't share it!
Facebook takes their position under the guise of maintaining that "only you should have ownership of your own data." But in reality they are enforcing the presence of Facebook if you want to use data obtained from Facebook. In essence, they are asserting that Facebook owns your data that you share.
This is another example of Facebook's dangerous philosophy about "openness." They call it open, but really it's Facebook in control. Meanwhile Google lets you pack up and leave and take your data with you any time you like....
screw you facebook....
rsox said:
I thought ICS didn't support contact syncing with Facebook anyway? The feature seemed to come and go on my Desire depending on how frosty Google-Facebook relations were at the time.
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i didn't know that, do you have a source ?
BTW the synching menu is there, but the facebook app get one error... so i guess its not really that google forbid something, but that facebook did an error...
I really don't belive google will play that kind of game, and make the android customer unhappy...
Android always gave their user the choice (see flash...)
if Android forbid Facebook sync, apple could use this...
and there are FAR more facebook users than flash sites
alain57 said:
i didn't know that, do you have a source ?
BTW the synching menu is there, but the facebook app get one error... so i guess its not really that google forbid something, but that facebook did an error...
I really don't belive google will play that kind of game, and make the android customer unhappy...
Android always gave their user the choice (see flash...)
if Android forbid Facebook sync, apple could use this...
and there are FAR more facebook users than flash sites
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You can google for this information pretty easily. Facebook and Google has had this high-profile fight since earlier this year.
Google is obviously trying to put the pressure on Facebook to be more open with their data, but not really succeeding since probably over 90% of Android users aren't even affected by this anyway. Most OEM flavours of Android such as Sense and TouchWiz still support Facebook syncing. If you want Facebook syncing with your People app you can use an app like FriendCaster instead.
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When you say contact sync, do you mean that you can see Facebook statuses in the People app? If so, wouldn't it be easier to just go to Facebook app? You can do/see much more stuff (Facebook-related) in the Facebook app than in the People app.
I dont know about Nexus, but I have HD2 and CM7 ROM and everything syncs....so I suppose stock ROM on Nexus doesnt support facebook syncing but others do/will
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When you say contact sync, do you mean that you can see Facebook statuses in the People app? If so, wouldn't it be easier to just go to Facebook app? You can do/see much more stuff (Facebook-related) in the Facebook app than in the People app.
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Most people want contact syncing with Facebook as a lot of people list their phone numbers in Facebook and to pull profile pictures from Facebook to use as contact photos.
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MikeyMike01 said:
All Google has to do is pull their head out of their ass and stop screwing their users over.
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Lol @ you
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Chrono_Tata said:
Most people want contact syncing with Facebook as a lot of people list their phone numbers in Facebook and to pull profile pictures from Facebook to use as contact photos.
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Unless they fix it you can use this program if you want the pictures youll just have to add the contacts info from facebook yourself
Google Contact Sync
This actually disappeared in a Gingerbread update (2.3.3) for the Nexus S back in February or March, IIRC. Probably not at all surprising therefore that it's not in ICS
The Nexus One still supports this feature, even with the latest Gingerbread update from Google. The latest CyanogenMod ROMs also still do this on the Nexus One. I believe that Google's reasoning there was that the device came with the ability, so they would allow it to stay.
I really wish Facebook would just update their app to use the proper API. I used SyncMyPix and it worked well enough, but it would be nice if Facebook could just do it properly.
A word of warning about Friendcaster... all info I could find says that Friendcaster pulls all your (possibly hundreds of) Facebook friends into your phone's contacts. I didn't want this. I only wanted to sync with my existing contacts, like I was able to do on my Nexus One. SyncMyPix did this pretty well.
MikeyMike01 said:
Google is probably one of the least likeable companies around.
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What on Earth are you talking about? lol
From the customer perspective: They get nothing but rave reviews.
From a personnel perspective: They get nothing but rave reviews.
Their employees love them, their customers love them.
matt2053 said:
What we actually have here is two differing philosophies about ownership of data.
Google believes your data is portable. They believe that once you import data, you own it, and you should be able to export it. If you give me your phone number, I know own that data. Example: If you decide you don't want me to have your number any more, you can't do anything about it. You can't make me forget it or tear up the piece of paper I wrote it down on. You shared it, I imported it, it's now mine.
Facebook disagrees with this. Facebook believes that the phone number only belongs to the person who's phone it is. They believe that if you share your phone number with me, I have to give it back and forget about it if you ever ask me to. Because of this, Facebook does not allow integrating contact info. They only allow Facebook contact data to exist "along side" your other data. So if someone unfriends you, you lose their contact info, picture, etc.
Google, on the other hand, recognizes that this is fundamentally stupid. If you share your data with me, I can keep it if I want, and I can export it to my contacts list if I want and if you don't like it then don't share it!
Facebook takes their position under the guise of maintaining that "only you should have ownership of your own data." But in reality they are enforcing the presence of Facebook if you want to use data obtained from Facebook. In essence, they are asserting that Facebook owns your data that you share.
This is another example of Facebook's dangerous philosophy about "openness." They call it open, but really it's Facebook in control. Meanwhile Google lets you pack up and leave and take your data with you any time you like....
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What a load of crap. Google masquerades their bull open policy too. They're both self absorbed companies fighting over who gets to steal your information.
Facebook is sitting on the mother load of personal information and Google wants to get at that information.
Google put a wrench in Facebook's app in a shameless attempt to push Google+.
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I am forced to keep off contacta synchronization for my professional networks LinkedIn, Google and Twitter. If I turn it on my Note 2 runs out of memory available for contacts after synchronizing about 17k of the contacts. LinkedIn 24k contacts, Google 20k contacts and Twitter 50k followers.
Please help to overcome this incredibly painful experience so I can synchronize all of the above.
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Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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bootloopz said:
Get rid of the ones you don't use. Which I'd guess is 98% of them.
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Your guess is wrong, I use all of them. As an international contractor I advise to all of them my availability and new contract offers start to pour in. You never know where the next opportunity lies. I f you can help its appreciated, if not useless comments are just that useless.
Well why would you need 50K twitter followers in your phone when there on twitter following you...
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Yes you are right, Twitter doesn't really matter. I do though need the LinkedIn and the Facebook ones. If I can find a solution for those to synchronize, it will also work for 50k from Twitter regardless if I need it or not.
The point is that I need to be able to bring in a lot more contacts and asociated data than the Note can handle as per stock setup.
The question is HOW? Please let me know if you are aware how it can be done!
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Hard to believe that Im the only note user that needs to solve this high number of contacts storage issue.
Someone must have already tried to find a soltion for this.
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It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
CyD13 said:
It's hard to believe that you're the only Note 2 user here who has hundreds of thousands of contacts? Lol
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I was going to say the same thing lol.
Wouldn't it be easier to just manage those contacts in their respective apps?
I don't see the benefit of having > 100, 000 contacts in your phonebook :s
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LinkedIn is my primary interest. The web interface as well as various LI apps is hopeless for managing 20k contacts since there isnt almost any batch processing functionality. I used to export my LI contacts and import them into Outlook but due to LI lacking the needed processing power that stopped working sometime after I reached 10k connections.
Android sync works well enough except for the memory limitation. At the moment its the only place I know where I can have my contacts in a fully managable database.
I am open to other suggestions but this being a Note forum i hoped to find a Note solution here.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I am still hopeing somebody knows how to resolve this problem. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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well, I can assure you that even if you manage to sync all those contacts to your Note phone book, the phone wont be able to handle this huge number ! this why the limitation is there from the first place, and this is what apple is doing to keep their Iphones runs smoother than androids, they put limitations on everything, from pictures format and size to video type and resolution, etc...
the final word is "it will just ruin the user experience" something Samsung don't want it for their beloved customers
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LinkedIn is my primary interest.
I am a contractor. If I can make this sync/memory work I again have the capability to let all my connections know when I complete my last contract and am available for the next one.
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I know this isn't going to help you with regards the storage limitation......but if LinkedIn is your primary interest then surely the obvious way to let all your connections know when your last contract is complete and therefore available for the next one is to manually update LinkedIn when that time comes. It keeps your phone free of 'clutter' yet surely you're achieving the same result without the limitation and associated problems. When you update your LinkedIn status don't all your contacts receive a notification?
I might be wrong but it doesn't sound like you need the 1000's of LinkedIn contacts on your phone but all of them need 'you'.......to me it sounds like the equivalent of storing a worldwide phonebook on your mobile, just so they can give you a call (so that's a process which isn't actually required) If your details are held in a central resource then you don't need to store everyone else's?
Feel free to shoot me down or completely ignore.
So, assuming you can get all 24-100k contacts into your Note2 Contacts app, what's the intended use-case? What action within the contacts app do you expect to perform to "let everyone know you're available for work"? I'm looking at my couple of hundred contacts (which, in itself, can be a royal pain to manage) and I'm not sure I'd want to even try to do what I do with the Note2 over ten times as many, let alone 1-500 times.
You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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Gmail
Have you tried importing all of your contacts into your gmail and letting that sync to the phone?
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You are all right from contacts app perspective. There is no easy way to manage from there. The reason for wanting to sync to my Note is the fact that android/contacts app brings all my social/professional networks contact details into a single database. It automatically combines a significant % of the duplicate contacts into one contact. To me this is the only known way of achieving a single database with details from various sources.
Unavoidably when I try to work on the Note with a database of this size the delay in displaying the results is a bit annoying but I can live with that just to get the result.
The positive is that from there the contacts are available to other applications which can be used for mailings or messaging. At this moment the various android apps batch processing capability is still limiting but it does have the export functionality enabling me to export this database to other apps on my PC.
Just as most of your comments, I would prefer to do all this on my PC but I have yet to find a desktop application that can build a unique and transportable database from all these networks.
But judging from the comments seems either the memory issue is not solvable or I should have explained the reasons in more detail earlier for people to be willing to help or maybe I am just uninformed about some PC app that can do this as well.
I already use the update feature on LinkedIn and other similar functionalities on my other networks but it is not even remotely as effective as sending a direct message to my connections. People don't stay glued to the screen to see a random update that disappears of their update queue within a few minutes of getting posted.
I dont want to shoot anybody down but feel free to shoot me down if you know an easier way of achieving the desired result.
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There isnt a working facility that is able to export LI connections if you have more than 10-11k connections so i dont have a file I could import into a Gmail account.
It still remains a question of sufficient memory to sync into android.
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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you should talk to one of the developers to see if there is some way to have contacts stored on the microsd card as opposed to the phone...if your contacts fill up a 64gig card then you really need to consider hiring a secretary...lol
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lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
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When this dude says he is a 'contractor' I hope he aint one of the contractors that eliminates people, lol.
Heres me thinking 2 or 300 connections on LinkedIn was a lot.... I had best get adding some more!
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HITMAN ABSOLUTION is coming out next week...!!! maybe this guy is agent 47...lol
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lol already have a "secretary" 2-3 times per week, among other stuff doing some of the LI tasks.
I hoped somebody who already did some development on this or has an idea how to achieve it would read this thread and coment but point taken, might post the question in the development forum.
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a couple things for ya...the note II come with a 16 gig internal micro sd card however it can support a 64 gig one (like the korean variant note II has). Buy a 64gig microsd card, take it to a place that repairs broken smart phones and have them swap the cards for ya...
I saw a vid on YouTube of a guy disassembling the note II and the card isnt hard to get to at all... hope that helps...
lastly, I saw this app in the playstore... http://goo.gl/5xbsC it may do what you're requesting...