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Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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My phone is rooted now with Modaco / CyanogenMod v1.4 + JF.
sonny88 said:
Hi Guys!
I have been searching for days if someone has managed to install a clean google rom on his HTC Hero. I can only find people running rooted Hero Roms.
The point is, i want to get rid of all the HTC Apps. I've managed to delete a lot of the stock applications, and it improved the speed a lot!
If i install any other "Magic based rom" the phone will hang on the HTC boot screen.
If i push original google apps like "contacts.apk/.odex" to the phone, they won't run.
Can someone port the original Magic/ION rom to the Hero please? I know a lot of people want to run a "clean android" rom on the hero.
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I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
deeren said:
I cannot see the point why someone would want that . No offense , i mean all the HTC customisation and Rosie was the whole point in buying this device instead of the HTC Magic( which has the exact same specifications and a way lot cheaper)
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To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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Please people, i don't want to be a jerk, but don't come up with questions like "Why did you buy a hero then?" ..
sonny88 said:
To be honest, i don't really know why i bought the hero. I didn't know much about android at the time i bought one. Now i know better, but anyway, that's not what i want to discuss..
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I'm on the same boat. When I bought my hero I hadn't really seen any working Android phone, either stock or HTC. Now that I have seen both I think that the stock apps and interface are somehow saner than HTC's, and what can I say? I'd prefer to use them.
Why don't you run the Rosie remover. It will get you part of the way to where you want to go
Indeed! but I also prefer the stock browser, the stock music player, the stock calendar, the stock contact list and dialer... and so on. They look less flashy but handier to my taste.
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
Actually, why do magic roms not work with the hero? What kind of modification would you have to do for them to work?
Fredriksen said:
I totally agree with, frandavid100. I would also love to have a vanilla android rom on my Hero.
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I think that the hero rom is not like the win rom. i mean all the htc customisations superimposed on the windows ones. There, all we had to do was just to remove the htc ones and we automatically got the windows ones.
I guess android's different. we have to remove all the htc customisations and add android's ones. Problem is hero never had the android's applications. what could be done is take a magic rom, remove all the applications and try to port them to the hero.
Problems would definetely arise cause the 2 phones are not 100% identical. some software work on the magic but not on hero bla bla bla.
I know some stock apps do work with the hero. I have been able to use the stock calendar and browser in my hero by replacing the apk and odex files, however replacing the contacts app makes it hang.
We could try to make a list of what apps can be replaced and how, or maybe even make update.zip files specific for that, similar to modaco's rosie remover. How difficult would that be?
sonny88 said:
The magic can almost run any rom, why can't the hero run any rom i want?
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I think that you'll probably find that the difference here is that chefs with a Magic or G1 actively want to "upgrade" to the latest and greatest ROMs. So, when presented with a Hero ROM, they will make the effort to back port it to the hardware they have.
The situation with the Hero is a little different. Here we already have the "latest and greatest", so there is probably very little motivation for a chef to port what is essentially an earlier ROM to the Hero. What you need to find is a chef who has a Hero, who either wants to run stock android, or is interesting in the intellectual challenge!
So, it's not really the case that "the magic can almost run any rom" - it's that their are chefs with Magics who are building these ROMs.
Regards,
Dave
Thanks guys!
I knew i wasn't the only one who wanted a clean vanilla android rom on the hero. Like frandavid100 said before, till there's another "magic rom" or something, we could make a list of apps working on hero.
I've had the same thing with the Contacts.app. This makes the phone freeze, and after removing the battery it constantly reboots.
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
sonny88 said:
If we all together manage to make a list of apps, i can create an update.zip which does all the work.
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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Let's do a test. I know you can replace HTC's browser with Android's. I'm attaching the files for both, can you create an update.zip that removes the HTC files from /system/apps, and pushes the stock ones?
EDIT: failed to upload the files to the forum. You can get them here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TVL3Y8UE
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I will do that tomorrow ok? I live in The Netherlands and its 09.35pm and i'm watching a movie
BTW: I also have a stock Magic/ION image. I can extract the apps from there as well. Tomorrow i'll try some apps.
Thanks for the effort guys!
Just another quick post. Below you'll see a list of apps which i'm going to try tomorrow. Please post request apps if i forget one.
- Contacts (probably doesn't work)
- Phone (unknown - probably same as contacts)
- Browser (probably works)
- Music Player (probably works)
- Messages/sms?
- Camera (unknown)
- Albums (probably no multitouch)
- Camcorder (don't know if this one is available)
- Calender (probably works)
- Calculator (unknown)
- Clock (don't know if this one is available)
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BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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Hey, if you come back during the ads... can you point me to that stock rom? I'd like to try some of those too.
I can advance that Browser and Calendar do work (I'm using them right now).
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I am sorry.. i'm at my girlfriend and don't have my laptop with me tomorrow i'll post some links to different roms we can work with. But i can assure you they won't work on the hero.
Im also going to try to port the sapphire keyboard to the hero. Don't know if someone already did this, i haven't used google yet.
Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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Actually, the keyboard is one of the few things I like from HTC's customisations I'll give the sapphire one a try tho!
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haha ok lol
I'm going to work on that list now.. wish me luck
sonny88 said:
BTW; If you guys want the original android lockscreen, just remove HtcLockScreen.apk/odex. After reboot you'll have the original android lockscreen where you have to press "menu" to unlock. Works faster and ofcourse no lag!
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Or you can just use the HTC lockscreen and press menu twice!
Regards,
Dave
wonder if somebody can make a custom rom with htc legend theme would be real nice?
....... Villain rom?
rudgia said:
wonder if somebody can make a custom rom with htc legend theme would be real nice?
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Seriously?
You do realize that the HTC Legend runs HTC Sense? We already have a great theme for that. It's called HTC Sense and it comes with every HTC Hero out there.
htc Legend rom copy
cursordroid said:
Seriously?
You do realize that the HTC Legend runs HTC Sense? We already have a great theme for that. It's called HTC Sense and it comes with every HTC Hero out there.
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yes iknow that but i would like to have the ui in settnings and like friendstream
watch video "Hands-on with the HTC Legend and the aluminum unibody" on youtube
Any 2.1 rom should have that menu and the friendstream is an app when someone gets hold of the .apk for it then that should be possible as well.
thanks for the infO
rudgia said:
yes iknow that but i would like to have the ui in settnings and like friendstream
watch video "Hands-on with the HTC Legend and the aluminum unibody" on youtube
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We won't be able to theme something like FriendStream, but like mentioned above, there will be an APK for it.
Within minutes of the Legend being released we will have a system dump. It won't be long.
I am also waiting a lot for the dev's to get the ROm of the HTC Desire and Legend and adapt it for Hero!
I am so excited to get all these new features ( i don't care about the stupid pinch to see desktops, but the copy-paste , Bluetooth audio on 2.1 ROM, the new contact widgets, etc..)
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
im hoping its soon its a really nice UI !!
I'm looking forward to this as well. Does villain have good 3d gaming? i havent tried his yet because of this.
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I am also waiting a lot for the dev's to get the ROm of the HTC Desire and Legend and adapt it for Hero!
I am so excited to get all these new features ( i don't care about the stupid pinch to see desktops, but the copy-paste , Bluetooth audio on 2.1 ROM, the new contact widgets, etc..)
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
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You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
jcarrz1 said:
I'm looking forward to this as well. Does villain have good 3d gaming? i havent tried his yet because of this.
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No it does have problems with this but that's more due to the files we have available than how he has made the rom, we need a more complete htc 2.1 rom before this will work properly
Lennyuk said:
You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
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u forgot camera @ 5mp
profete162 said:
Villain is really nice but still buggy and i am sure it will get really better when he will get the Legend/Bravo sources!
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He won't get the Legend/Bravo sources! Android 2.1 is already available AOSP, and the HTC stuff is closed source.
To be honest, I rather expect the Hero update to be pretty much everything that will be on the Legend, so the real issue here is which will come first - the Legend or the Hero 2.1 update?
Regards,
Dave
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u forgot camera @ 5mp
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Even that works on 2.1 sense based roms
Lennyuk said:
You do know we can already copy and paste don't you? Bluetooth audio works on some 2.1 roms already and so does the new contact widget and even pinch zoom on desktop. Currently the only real thing we are missing is the friend stream.
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He probably meant that the copy and paste feature have been much improved since 1.5, if you watch the presentation of the new HTC phones.
In about a month, we're getting the same Sense update..
For the who wants to know:
The new ROM is already compiled for the Nexus one and works 99%.
I really hope that once it's OK for the N1, we will get it for the Hero!
Thank to Paul from Modaco: http://android.modaco.com/content/google-nexus-one-nexusone-modaco-com/302822/loading-up-the-desire-rom-on-the-nexus-one-my-findings-so-far/
This doesn't make any since because you want a 2.1 sense ROM that will also be given to the Hero?
The work making a rom based off of the Legend is pointless since it would be the same thing your getting.
Ace42 said:
This doesn't make any since because you want a 2.1 sense ROM that will also be given to the Hero?
The work making a rom based off of the Legend is pointless since it would be the same thing your getting.
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Exactly, people don't seem to be understanding this point.
Also about 80-85% of the features are also available on custom roms (albeit maybe a little buggy until we get the real thing)
i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
slaming said:
i've seen videos on how to get rid of htc sense on this phone i really don't like sense is there any way to get rid of it on a uk version it seems as if all it has installed is normal htc sense and not home any fix?
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well if you have seen many vidoes how to do it then wheres the problem ?
the problem is i follow what they do and it doesn't work i think the problem is that it doesn't actually have home installed on it i've looked thru all of the applications and its not there is there anyway to install it?
Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
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Why would you get a desire and NOT a nexus one if you don't like sense?
Find Launcher.apk, Launcher2.apk or one of the launcher replacements in the market (ahome, openhome, home++) and install them to replace the sense homescreen.
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umm desire is cheaper
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
slaming said:
just tried andvanced launcher crashes on startup
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Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
brummiesteven said:
Advanced Launcher afaik is for 1.6 only.
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are there any for 2.1? because i couldn't find the others you suggested
You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
Karolis said:
You could try installing Launcher2.apk from Nexus One. Some people report it working fine on their phones. It didn't work for me though. Maybe I had the wrong APK.
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Complete Android noob here please explain
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
XDA mark said:
I have posted in this forum how to turn of Sense on the Desire. Search 'How to turn of HTC Sense' or something.
Since in that clip there was ACTUALLY a Desire being used, it should work. From what I remember:
Go to settings, all programs, search HTC Sense, turn it off.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
Karolis said:
In overly simplified terms, Sense UI is HTC's home screen, where as Launcher2 is Google's home screen for N1.
All programs on Android come in APK files. That's like a CAB installer on WinMo.
So all you need to do is search Nexus One forum for Launcher2.apk, download it on your phone and install it. Then when you press home button, it will ask you which home to launch. Choose Android home (or something similar) instead of Sense UI, but DON'T make it default just yet as it might not work.
If it does, next time you can make it default an voila - you have yourself a "Nexus One".
Though Sense UI will still be running, so you don't really save any memory or anything.
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i've just downloaded launcher2.apk and now just to finish this phone call then i'm gonna test this out will report back. i feel like a crash test dummy lol
You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
ok default launcher 2 doesn't work gonna try the other one mentioned now
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You could also try to install the Helixlauncher2 app from the Nexus One forum. It's a modified Nexus One launcher2 with a lot more features. I already made a thread in the Desire Themes and Apps forum since I'm curious whether it works flawlessly or not on the Desire. Maybe you can crash test that launcher too?
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just tried it it works seems a bit laggy but i think now i might just stick with sense as the only thing i prefer with nexus is the lock screen. anyway to get that on sense?
you also loose all the nice widgets so i'm gonna stick with sense for the moment.
thanks for all your help guys.
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I don't think you have read this thread at all have you?
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Yes I have, every post till mine. I am no pro at Android yet, so yeah I probably did not understand somehing. I just wanted to give my help, thats all.
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Dude what I was saying was that I had seen alot of tutorials on How to do it and followed them but it didn't work so you probably just miss understood. We all do at times dw about it
video of how to do it here, let us know if it works out for you
http://home.leakdroid.com/2010/03/turn-off-htc-sense-in-a-few-simple-steps-on-the-htc-desire/
I have been using OMGBv6 and I like the ROM. I have recently learned how to customize ROMs'by using the guide at The Unlockr. I have a few questions. Do I need permission to use someone else's ROM? Can I just use a stock ROM from any device (i.e. nexus s) and port it to my device. I was not sure if there would be complications going from GSM to CDMA. The video recording is broken in OMGB. I would like to work to fix that. Can someone point me in the direction of how to fix this? I thought this should go in the development section. Sorry if not.
If you are modding things for yourself, you don't need permission. If you are using another ROM to make your "own" to put up, then you def need permission. When in doubt, ask. As far as the fix you are looking for, I have no idea, someone else will have to lend their input.
This will be just for myself. I love Vanilla ROMs and can not seem to find any. Hopefully I can get some help with the other stuff.
Check your inbox i sent you some info
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This will be just for myself. I love Vanilla ROMs and can not seem to find any. Hopefully I can get some help with the other stuff.
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HTC Incredible OMGB 2.3.1
I have been to his site. I am interested in building my own roms. Not from scratch but for personal use. But thanks
Im sure, if its for personal use and your not trying to pass it of as yours and post it, you should be ok to mod others rom for yourself. Just think of it this way. Google made the os htc made sense and everyone is modding there stuff and releasing it. IMO
Sent from my sexy assistant. (HTC Incredible)
I am just going to use his rom and mod to my liking. I do not plan on releasing to anyone else. Does anyone know if I can use the stock rom from a nexus s and use on my incredible.
I'm not a dev, but pretty sure you can't. The rom is hardware specific. Even porting a rom from the evo, which is very similar to the inc, takes a lot of work.
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SkyRaider Sense 3.5
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forget it.
I was just using the nexus as an example, I am trying to learn this stuff and am using the kitchen to mod roms to my liking. Any info on fixing things broken on roms such as the recording in omgb
Just as an example. Ruby 2.0 puts a percentage in the battery icon, if I wanted to change the verizon wireless text to something else. Change a lock screen. Simple mods to a rom.
Hello XDA,
Im looking for a lockscreen MOD for the HTC One X
One similar to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898274
At the time, I didnt realize that these lockscreens were meant for the Evo, but somehow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31053705&postcount=1682
Seems to work fine, all the other ones (or the ones that does not have a broken link) have the layout of the Evo, if that makes sense.
Ill attach screenshots of what I mean.
Could someone please make custom lockscreens for the beautiful One X?
Im running Viper Rom 2.7.1
Im also pretty new to XDA so not hate please.
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Hello XDA,
Im looking for a lockscreen MOD for the HTC One X
One similar to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1898274
At the time, I didnt realize that these lockscreens were meant for the Evo, but somehow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31053705&postcount=1682
Seems to work fine, all the other ones (or the ones that does not have a broken link) have the layout of the Evo, if that makes sense.
Ill attach screenshots of what I mean.
Could someone please make custom lockscreens for the beautiful One X?
Im running Viper Rom 2.7.1
Im also pretty new to XDA so not hate please.
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Not sure about the mods, but have you tried WidgetLocker https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.widgetlocker&feature=search_result
has more customizations, you wont be depending on sense etc.