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Best music player for TP2

So which one do u choose ?
CorePlayer
Nitrogen player
Windows media player
TF3D music player
or others?
Plz post your reasons too

so? 90 views and no answers

i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.

TF3D music player
I've been using the TF3D music player on my tp2 for about a month now and it seems to be doing all that i need from it.
Simple to use and good quality output as well. Can't say much about other music players as I haven't used any recently.

in order to get as much music on my phone as possible i am using aac compressed audio (with SBR). This format provides 128kbit/s-mp3-quality at 48kbit/s (at least to my ears).
The only players that i know supporting this format are WMP and TCPMP. As TCPMP does software decoding the device gets slow during playback. WMP seems to have something like hardware acceleration for aac. therefore i am using WMP (with another skin as the default one is not very finger friendly).

thanks yeah i like the TF3D default myself too Nitrogen is good but i think the volume is a little low compared to TF3D player,i use coreplayer for movies and TF3D for musics,just wanted to know other opinions

while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.

WMP works well for me. Don't like the skin but I have downloaded an HTC-like theme so it is all good.

pocket player too
wide variety of audio format support (4.x supports aac), AVRCP support, plugin to add pitch adjustment

Power Problems
Mesquire said:
while the htc audio manager is nice, NITROGEN is now my player of choice despite minor bugs.
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How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...

Coreplayer.
Has EQ, bass boost and pre-amp options and also is the best video player.

juliangun4ev said:
i'm using pocket player . it works great
and i'm using it with jabra stereo blutooth headset.
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yeah,Pocket Music Player is the thing,it can auto power off and power on,holy ****,which else can be as nice as this one?

+1 for Pocket Player.
My reasons: AVRCP support (a must have feature for me), wide format support (many free players don't support wma, which is a deal breaker for me), equalizer, gapless playback(!), quite finger friendly (some buttons are rather small on the default skin, but it has kinetic scrolling etc.)...
Video support is a bit lacking, but then again I only use it for audio.

I use Pocket Player as well, mostly because it works well for both music and audio books. I am frustrated with whatever method it uses for shuffle, though. I've had 6 different songs play 2-4 times in 4 hours. I have nearly 1000 songs and 66 hours of music! Seems like I should not be getting that kind of repetition.

Pocket Player problems with playing large MP3 files...
One thing guys - and anyone who uses Pocket Player on the TP2 may have seen this... I listen to a lot of voice audio. I prefer to combine the files for audio and can sometimes have long audio files of 300 megs all the way to 1.2 gigs (I use a 16 gig storage card).
The problem i have seen is that sometimes the control that shows where you are in the audio file goes haywire and slides from the correct position all the way to the right - making the bookmarking feature fail and impossible to navigate. Additionally it appears Pocket Player somehow miscalculates the size and length of the audio - but it originally has the size and length correct - this only happens after a certain point (for me it seems after about 240 minutes or so - about 4 hours in).
WHat is so strange is this does NOT happen for all audio files on this device. Some of the large files seem to play fine without problem. Additionally when I compare this to another TP2 that has an installation of the competitor program Pocket Music, this does NOT happen. Also this never happenedon our original HTC Mogul from Sprint.
The problem is we need the AVRCP controls and we all know that Conduits is the only company that has addressed this. It's also pathetic that HTC themselves has continued down this path and refuses to even comment on this issue.
2 questions to this wonderful community of genius people who take it upon themselves to fix what should have been included in the first place:
1. Has anyone seen a hack / mod that will fix the AVRCP controls so that programs like Pocket Music and other players can be used via Bluetooth remote controls?
2. Has anyone seen this specific issue with Pocket Player (which has that beautiful speed plugin that does not alter pitch - love that) and if so - is there a fix or workaround for large files 'breaking' in the middle of playing so that you can no longer save your position or know the correct position of the player in the middle of the MP3 being played?
Thanks in advance to all of you who have any suggestions on either issue.

I'm using Kinoma Play, though mainly for its integration with Orb and video abilities.
For music it supports album art, but only has bass and treble adjustments, not an equalizer.
There is a Kinoma Free you can try.

I am searching for the perfect player and have been testing several of them to see how they work. In addition to some of the normal music player requirements I have 2 pet peeves in particular:
1) The player must support the "Album Artist" tag so that compilations are listed properly in the library.
2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
I am testing Pocket Player right now. So far it is the only music player that supports and uses the "Album Artist" tag and it does so by default. It does not support proper alpha. AVRCP works fine out of the box.
The HTC player has the advantage in that it is the only player that can be integrated on the TF3D tabs but does not utilize the "Album Artist" tag nor uses proper alpha. It also has a serious bug that prevents it listing and playing a albums tracks in the correct order. AVRCP of course works well.
WMP supports proper alpha but not the "Album Artist" tag. Strange since MS pioneered the use of the "Album Artist" tag in the desktop version of WMP. AVRCP works fine.
CorePlayer is an evil company. I will never buy or use any SW they make.
Kinoma is next up on my list.
I wish I could find a music player that addresses both of my pet peeves and could be integrated into the TF3D tab replacing the HTC one. That would be the perfect player for me.
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sleonard said:
2) Proper alphabetization - "The Beatles" should be listed under the B's not incorrectly under the T's.
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I understand what you're saying but I would argue that any player that puts that artist name under B is the one doing it incorrectly. If you want The Beatles under the B's then you should rename those tracks to the album artist "Beatles."

For the people that got the TF3D music to work, please share your magic on having it identify your library from a storage card.

moSess said:
How did you get the player to play in power saving mode. with the screen off. Whenever I do this it stops the music, and some times, even unloads my memory card.
This has been my biggest bain and major issue with my tmobile tp2. I have tried Mortplayer and Nitrogen, the best IMHO and have had the same issue. I have tried different searches to enable the device to let the music play while the screen is off and none have worked. I am going to try S2P. My only gripe witht that program is that it does not play all file formats.
Oh well...
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I know this question is like 2 months old but I use Nitrogen and its good enough for me...very finger friendly! And on the main screen there's a button that looks like a Power Button under the volume keys...thats how you put it into "sleep mode" and music will continue playing.

Video Encoder - Sound in sync??

I spend quite a lot of time travelling, and find my HD2 has an ideal sized screen for watching films on when on the move.
Previously I had the Touch HD - which was also great.
I've been using a program which I found on here called MP4forHD - which works great - but all the videos are slightly out of sync. I'm processing them on a quad core 2.83ghz PC with 8gb or RAM, so I don't think its the PC thats the problem. When I check them on my PC once they've converted - they're already out of sync - so its not the phone.
The program converts directly from a DVD or file - which is exactly what I want.
Prior to MP4forHD, I was using another tool I found on here which was just called Encoder. It only did files, so I had to use DVD Decryptor, then VOB joiner to make a file that it could re-encode. I've tried it just now, and its also out of sync.
Both these programs have a setting for HTC Touch HD - so they encode at the correct resolution. I've tried fiddling with settings, but no matter what I do, it always seems to be out of sync.
What programs are folk using to get a good video file - and what settings? I'm away tomorrow morning on holiday and have a pile of out of sync films to watch! I hope I can get some suggestions so that I can re-encode a couple of them to be in sync
Cheers...

which app you use to play movie on your Leo?

patanello said:
which app you use to play movie on your Leo?
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I just use the standard Manilla player as its the only one that utilises the GFX chip on the phone. I do have Core Player, but it doesn't play the movies any better.

I've just been hunting through Core Players advanced options and realised that there is an A/V offset - which if I set it to about -0.3 seconds works perfectly!
Ideally I'd still like the films encoded in sync, so if anyone has any magical programs / untilites then please let me know. At least I'll manage to watch in Core Player in sync on my flight tomorrow

I use avidemux, which is good because it has lots of options and is free. I hear handbrake also works well, and microsoft even has their own, which worked well for me the one time I've used it
Microsoft Expression Encoder: http://www.microsoft.com/Expression/products/Encoder_Overview.aspx
Avidemux: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
Handbrake: http://handbrake.fr/
On a side note: If you have the time, could you see how high you can get the bitrate on a h.264 WVGA video before it starts stuttering?

looking for mp3 player

Hey guys,
Im looking for a good mp3 player, I have Nitrogen but I don't like how it doesnt organise my songs by artist or album or by title. I have all my different albums in different folders and if I wanna hear one song from one album and then another from a different album I have to go back and forth between folders... unless Im missing something with the Nitrogen player.
Also was just wondering if there are similar mp3 players that have something similar to iphones coverflo feature, just think that is a cool feature.
Any suggestions would be awesome.
Thanks

u should google for WinamPAQ

hmm looked at the winamp.but it didnt look finger friendly, is there anything else?

i spent a while looking for a good finger friendly mp3 player for my x1, the clear winner for me was "pocket player" by conduits.

thanks widebhoy, i did some more research and came across that one too, im gonna try it out.
thanks again

Yeah, Pocket Player is definitely the best music player for WM. I love it!

htc audio manager.
* finger friendly
* automatically organizes audio library (by album/artist/whatever)
* fast UI, low battery consumption

Hello
Try MortPlayer, supports MP2, MP3, Ogg Vorbis and WAV, ID3- (V1.0-V2.3) and Ogg-Tag-Information, WinAmp- and MediaPlayer-Playlists (M3U, PLS, ASX, read only), A2DP / AVRCP, Configurable Fonts for Playlists... and much much more.
And for Fingerfriendly using you can download one of the many Skins or create your own Skin.
Pocket Player is good but I think MortPlayer offers more capabilities and is more powerful.
Bye

djtiko said:
Hey guys,
Im looking for a good mp3 player, I have Nitrogen but I don't like how it doesnt organise my songs by artist or album or by title. I have all my different albums in different folders and if I wanna hear one song from one album and then another from a different album I have to go back and forth between folders... unless Im missing something with the Nitrogen player.
Also was just wondering if there are similar mp3 players that have something similar to iphones coverflo feature, just think that is a cool feature.
Any suggestions would be awesome.
Thanks
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Have you tried S2P?

I like PocketPlayer... But it does not seem to work smooth on windows mobile 6.5(new UI)... Any solutions?

ElChe said:
I like PocketPlayer... But it does not seem to work smooth on windows mobile 6.5(new UI)... Any solutions?
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In the Conduits forums there is a thread concerning this problem. An admin claims beeing able to provide an early beta of version 4.2 which should fix the issue. He (or she) says if someone is interested one should contact him (or her) by email. The email adress is mentioned in the thread. Maybe it is worth a try?

does anybody have a free version of this pocketplayer?
in their web it only last for 30 days, and then we have to pay

Fr4nkZzZ said:
does anybody have a free version of this pocketplayer?
in their web it only last for 30 days, and then we have to pay
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That is because it's not freeware. But it is definitely worth the monney.

i think naitrogen is best

using mortplayer since i`ve got my x1. i tried all the others,but mortplayer allways finds the way back to my device... for those like me who have thousands of tracks on the card, mortplayer will give you the effectivist playlist

If you're still interested I'd recommend either S2P or iMulator. S2P has more function and design, but iMulator is faster.
You also have Nitrogen v 1.1, although it's a bit outdated.

nitrogen
www.nitrogen.wmskins.com

If you'd ask me I'd vote for mort player =)

i think S2P is best - it integrates well with S2U2, and new pay version is AWESOME, but 0.83 is still quite good and if u want to make it fingerfriendlier- all u have to do is get a different skin ( some got bigger buttons ), only downside its not as smooth as WMplayer but got nicer autoplaylist capabilities - its only one i found that lets me play all my music from Storage Card WITHOUT small game files , ringtones etc, because u can NOMINATE your MUSIC folder- that feature alone worth its weight in gold IMO

i basically have 5 MP3 players on my SEX1 - WMP, Nitrogen, S2P, plus 2 panels - OnTheRoad and MediaXP , and think that for pure feature plus stability value- nothing beats S2U2 + S2P in that combo u get - FullScreen CallerID, LockScreen, NotificationReminders, Messages Previews, AND Very Good INTEGRATED FullScreen Album Pic + Nominated Music Folder MP3/M4A/WAV/+music player plus whole lot of other things i'm prrobably forgetting , so if u r NOT using manilla ( which have most of these inbuild) i personally find thta manilla doesnt run too well on stock xperia, i think S2U2 + S2P is a must , as a matter of fact : its on my reinstall list right after SPB Software every time i hardreset , anyway- these things are different for everyone , because it all depends on what kind of rom and soft u running and what are your requirements, e.g- both mortplaer and pocketmusic bundle kept crashing on my X1, but S2P and Nitrogen - work well
hope this helps, mate

Some basic questions

Hi - I am new to Android and am struggling with some fairly basic concepts:
1. Unloading images, and video: I have Win7 and using the built in Windows image importer - it tries to unload all other images - not just camera. So I get lots of bookmark thumbnails etc; etc; I have also tried doubleTwist but that seemed overly complicated?
2. Sharing recorded video with others: The Desire seems to record to a format that no one can play. Well the video does but the sound does not. I have read that there is no way round this and you can only play it on your phone!!?? Surely thats not right? I just want to email friends some videos - surely thats not tricky!?
3. Multiple calendar reminders: When I get a reminder I get the option to Snooze All or Dismiss All - but I cant seem to dismiss just one reminder. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any help

vilbs said:
Hi - I am new to Android and am struggling with some fairly basic concepts:
1. Unloading images, and video: I have Win7 and using the built in Windows image importer - it tries to unload all other images - not just camera. So I get lots of bookmark thumbnails etc; etc; I have also tried doubleTwist but that seemed overly complicated?
2. Sharing recorded video with others: The Desire seems to record to a format that no one can play. Well the video does but the sound does not. I have read that there is no way round this and you can only play it on your phone!!?? Surely thats not right? I just want to email friends some videos - surely thats not tricky!?
3. Multiple calendar reminders: When I get a reminder I get the option to Snooze All or Dismiss All - but I cant seem to dismiss just one reminder. Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for any help
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1. The beauty of using a non-Apple smartphone is that you don't have to use a special application to manage your files. Just connect your device to your PC as a disk drive. Browse to it with your file explorer and just drag&drop.
2. Not sure what you mean here. Windows Media Player on Windows can play the videos recorded with the Desire. And Quicktime on OSX can as well.
3. Yeah, there's no way around this one. Bummer...

In terms of photos, why don't you just drag and drop...you don't really need to use an importing tool. That seems overly complicated for what you want.
On the video side of things, you have two formats to choose from. 3gp and Mp4. When you're shooting video there's a tab on the left. Pull it out and at the bottom is the settings. You can then choose "Encoding type" and switch. I believe you'll get the best compatibility with Mp4.
The reminders thing? I have no clue.

1. Issue with sync - OK I will drag and drop. The importer utility is normally quite handy as it only unloads images that havent already been unloaded etc; etc;
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On the video side of things, you have two formats to choose from. 3gp and Mp4. When you're shooting video there's a tab on the left. Pull it out and at the bottom is the settings. You can then choose "Encoding type" and switch. I believe you'll get the best compatibility with Mp4.
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I have the choice out of H.263 and MPEG4. Both options output a .3gp file (I presumed that MPEG4 should output a .MP4). Both .3gp give the following message in VLC player "No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "samr". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this." Media player doesnt give me a message it just doesnt give audio. Google this tells me that there is no easy way to solve this. So how come it works for you?
3. "...Yeah, there's no way around this one. Bummer..." Bummer indeed
Oh well - thanks for your answers guys but I would really love to try and sort this video issue. Incidentally its the same with sound recordings - they use the same samr codec which basically cant be used

Ah, well it seems both RealPlayer and Quicktime can play back the videos encoded with the mp4 or H.263 format.
EDIT - And also Windows Media player. I have read that VLC can't play them due to licensing issues for the AMR sound format.

download and install the k-lite codec pack it will include the classic player which is more than capable of playing these videos. I did have an issue with my vids i was recording when i was making a recording that lasted longer than 10 minutes, it was almost as if the card was too full record properly however the recorder still carried on going, this can be recognised when you press stop on the video recording and it goes straight back to the desktop instead of the camera. when this occurs nothing will play the file as it is corrupt. it must have been a third party program i had installed as when i defaulted the device the problem stopped and it would record as normal.

putting MP3's onto my desire

Lucky for me I still mainly buy CD and not downloads
So, how to I copy my CD's via my win7 pc to desire complete with album art work?

I've tried two options.
One is doubleTwist
The problem I have with it is it's slow at times, especially when starting and the initial sync with your device. It also handles tagging for compilation albums very poorly. For example I have a Motown album. Obviously there is no main album artist, and each track has an artist. In iTunes there are separate fields for Album artist and Track artist. doubleTwist can't parse this data and creates an album on your sd card for EACH and every artist it finds. So rather than my folders being organised as on my PC like Artist>Album>tracks, with this Motown album being found in Various Artists>Motown 50>tracks, I ended up with dozens of extra artists each with their own album called Motown 50. So there would be a Stevie Wonder folder...he'd have an album called Motown 50...then there'd be a Marvin Gaye folder and he'd have an album called Motown 50 too. SO as you can imagine the Album view on the media player looked a mess! There's also a complimentary Android app in the market which is actually much better than the built in music player. You also don't have to use the desktop app to use the Android app so give that a spin either way.
Next option is MediaMonkey
Now this is much better. It not only helps you organise your music, allowing for tags that even iTunes doesn't handle, but it will fetch album art for albums you don't have them for...as well as tag info for tracks you haven't tagged. The downside is it's not the most user friendly of apps. I got a few settings wrong and it scattered my music in random locations all over my SD card...it was hell to clean up. It managed to maintain my albums and tagging though. You just have to be very careful with it.

I use MediaMonkey to manage my mp3 library and to sync with my mp3 player. Not the prettiest of programs and sometimes not that intuitive when you first start to use it buit its very powerful - free too unless you want it to rip mp3s for you then you gotta pay for the Gold edition. You can though always use another ripper.
For my Desire though I just copy and paste the files to the SD card. MediaMonkey has already sorted out all the tags and album art for me so those are part of the file copied. I find it's far easier this way.

why can you just do what I do , copy them over in HDD mode , or even take out the Mme card and copy them over , and add a jpg to the folder where the album is .. eg album called wham be in a folder called wham with wham artwork as a small jpg... easy ...

dgattenb said:
why can you just do what I do , copy them over in HDD mode , or even take out the Mme card and copy them over , and add a jpg to the folder where the album is .. eg album called wham be in a folder called wham with wham artwork as a small jpg... easy ...
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works well

On a Win7 PC you have everything you need without installing any other software
Open up Windows Media Player and use that to BURN the CD. This will create a WMA (go for the WMA lossless option if you want the best quality) file.
Windows Media Player will automatically identify the CD, download track and album info and even the album art information if you want.
You can now start creating playlists. These are lists of tracks/albums that you add to.
Now connect your Desire in HDD mode. Media Player will take you through the sync process and allow you to choose which playlists to sync.
Now everytime you connect your Desire to your PC and run Windows Media Player, it will automatically sync your playlists to your device where you can then listen.
For some reason, most people forget about Windows Media player yet for a non iTunes user it is probably the best solution out there because it does the sync part so well

@ mark
works brilliantly

Im going to go against the grain and NOT recommend Media Monkey (although I do love the program) it just isn't reliable for ID3v1 tags.
Use whichever program you want to rip the mp3, there's a host of free software out there on 30 day trial, or limited use, all of which will do the job.
Use Tag Clinic (currently 4.3)
to fix your tags, use only ID3v1 tags, strip out any id3v2 tags (there are two seperate views for the two tag version in Tag Clinic, which is what makes it better and simpler than other software.)
Also only use the id3v1 generes that are available int he dropdown list, this I found as the only way to get reliable genres to stick.
Add jpegs of your album art to each folder, keep the dimensions less than 300px X 300px otherwise some players will not show it, regardless as to whether the file is available. also call the jpg, folder.jpg. (this is where media monkey IS helpful as you can copy an image from google images and paste it into the album art preview window and select 'save a copy to the folder as folder.jpg'
you should be all set, this I've learned after piddling around for hours trying to get MixZing to work with my SD music collection. I've read all the posts and made a few discoveries on my own.
Until ID3v2 tags are recognised (or recognised in parallel with ID3v1 tags) then this is the only way to get your collection showing properly.