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Just a quick question --
Would installing a CM7 ROM on a T-Mobile G2 (US) remove the WiFi Calling and Swype apps? If so, is there any way to restore them?
Wifi calling is still there but swype will be gone but you can go swype website get the beta its newer and better
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Thanks! Is the WiFi Calling included with CM7, then? Because if I'm not mistaken, to perm-root I'll need to downgrade from the OTA ROM, which would remove the WiFi app from my phone.
skmpowdjy said:
Thanks! Is the WiFi Calling included with CM7, then? Because if I'm not mistaken, to perm-root I'll need to downgrade from the OTA ROM, which would remove the WiFi app from my phone.
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I'm pretty sure its included but, regardless, you'll still get the OTA once you are rooted. Run #*#*checkin*#*# to connect to the servers and you should get the OTA within a day.
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I'm pretty sure its included but, regardless, you'll still get the OTA once you are rooted. Run #*#*checkin*#*# to connect to the servers and you should get the OTA within a day.
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What are you talking about? Taking an OTA will remove root assuming you're on a rooted stock 2.2 device, and not sure why you would be receiving an OTA anyways, the update is gonna be on his phone from the start if its new or even used at this point...
And if you flash CM7 there is no OTA... It's not even based on 2.2 (or distributed by T-mobile, for that matter), its 2.3. You just have what you flash and that's it until you update to a new version of the ROM or add features manually.
OP, there is no need to drop your OTA (or downgrade to remove the OTA) update in order to root, that is only an issue with the Desire Z, not the G2. You can successfully completely perm-root with the OTA (I've done it personally on 2 different OTA devices).
The WiFi calling included with CM7 is the same you get with the stock 2.2 ROM, and it works just fine from my experience. As stated by the 1st reply, Swype is in open beta, you can install it yourself.
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What are you talking about? Taking an OTA will remove root assuming you're on a rooted stock 2.2 device, and not sure why you would be receiving an OTA anyways, the update is gonna be on his phone from the start if its new or even used at this point...
And if you flash CM7 there is no OTA... It's not even based on 2.2 (or distributed by T-mobile, for that matter), its 2.3. You just have what you flash and that's it until you update to a new version of the ROM or add features manually.
OP, there is no need to drop your OTA (or downgrade to remove the OTA) update in order to root, that is only an issue with the Desire Z, not the G2. You can successfully completely perm-root with the OTA (I've done it personally on 2 different OTA devices).
The WiFi calling included with CM7 is the same you get with the stock 2.2 ROM, and it works just fine from my experience. As stated by the 1st reply, Swype is in open beta, you can install it yourself.
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Thank you for the info!
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Thank you for the info!
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No problem. Good luck in your CM7 adventures!
I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Yes. There will be at least one rooted stock ROM. However, most other ROMs will be customized ROMs that utilize the new Gingerbread kernel.
I'd like to point out the kernel source may be for a kernel that only works with the OTA. That's how its been with the Tbolt. Not so bad because it would spawn a whole new generation of much improved gingerbread ROMs.
Thats all I wanted to know seeing how they got gingerbread roms from devices like the HTC Sensation, I don't think it'll take that long to get a custom ROM cooked up haha! As long as there will be roms based off it, I'll be happy hopefully they'll have custom themes
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I was just curious. I kind of don't want to go back to stock ROM because its backed up on my computer. Also, it wad becoming unstable so now I'm on Virtuous. I rather get a ROM thats based off that release because of the TV out cable. I hope there will be
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Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?
Being on a custom rom rooted will we be able to update to stock?
Or will something go dearly wrong if we try?
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okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?
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Nope, absolutely no developer will create a custom rom from this new official rom that's coming out. They haven't done it in the past, why would they start making new custom roms based off of official OTA roms?
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devs play with the source code kernal and work from there.
You will lose root if you update to stock.
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okay, so, for us rom users who don't want to go back to stock.
do we have to flash stock back onto the device?, to get the update? or just wait for a custom kernal
and how does one flash the radio without bricking the phone?
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Someone will release a rooted version of the ROM which you can use, or just wait for your developer to update their ROM.
No. That update won't be supported. Everyones gonna stop devving the day before its released. Just kidding lol.
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I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%
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I'll wait for a rooted version to release. But if custom roms like Virtuous, Skyraider, or Incrom update, I'll do that
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skyraider won't see the update, i doubt it, the dev of that rom already moved on to the t-bolt.
zoomy942 said:
I'm personally going to wait until there is a root method. I'll unroot my stock froyo. update. root the update, adb shell and remove the vzw crap and install whatever new kernel has been created from the source code. best way to ensure everything works 100%
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if you can root the update, no one knows for sure if unrevoked or any method will work, let us know if it does or not!
I'm on 2.2 rooted using unrevoked3 - such a easy process. From what I have been reading, it's not as simple in reverse. I really want 2.3 for the VoIP capabilities and improved keyboard but I'm afraid to brick my phone unrooting it. Also, I live off of WiFi tether for root users and I don't know how long I could wait for another unrevoked or similar to give root on 2.3 so that I can reinstall the app.
So I'm assuming I should just wait for a custom ROM like most everyone else. Is it hard to flash a custom ROM? More or less difficult than the painless 1-click root?
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Probably not quite as painless as unrevoked, but certainly not difficult either. Rom manager actually makes rom flashing pretty simple but seems buggy for a lot of people. I'd wait for the rooted OTA to be posted and flash that. Might want to do a little reading on flashing roms and root in general, there are some good stickies in the incredible forums.
Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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Can I use the root method even on a custom sense ROM?
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I'm not wanting to insult you, honestly, but that question reflects a deep lack of knowledge. But, you're at XDA and that's the best place to fix that!
I'll answer your question....
Nobody could probably tell you because nobody has ever tried rooting a custom ROM before.
That said, do some searching and some reading and get familiar with what this community is all about. You will be amazed.
So I flashed the 2.3.4 GB Rom posted by JoelZ yesterday. Some stuff looks diferent but not a whole lot. Was I wrong to expect the newer style keyboard, lockscreen and notification bar? Nevertheless, it boots wicked quick and feels faster.
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hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.
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hey everyone, I had clockwork recovery, which I wanted to get rid of. I got the stock recovery.img from htc vision wiki and flashed it using adb. but when i go to rom manager it still says current recovery:clock work. I cant even flash any alternate recovery in rom manager, because the option is not highlighted. I am just wondering is there any reason why i am unable to flash the stock recovery. Or is there anther recovery that I can download, and maybe try and flash that. Any help will be appreciated. thank you in advance.
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RM might be lieing to you since that header is meant to show you what CWM you have installed and what the latest CWM is. Try booting into recovery from the bootloader and see what's there.
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Pretty sure the OP is asking how to flash stock recovery or something other than clockworkmod.
My question is why? You don't have to flash newest cwm 5.X(you can flash older versions in RM) and there is a thread toget back to complete stock in dev section.
No alternate recoveries besides stock and cwm
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thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?
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thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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It's already available for the G2 so it should be available for the DZ as well. Check the ROMs thread in the sticky, there's probably already a rooted version out that you could flash with CWM.
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never mind, you were right. rm was lieing. crap my phone get factory reset. i wasnt expecting that....could have warned me -_- anyways i am guessing now i can update. btw if i update, then download clockwork. can i restore to my nandroid, which will have the 2.2?
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Factory reset from flashing a recovery? That shouldn't have happened.
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well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.
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well i pressed volume up and power. then it went in to hboot. then i pressed recovery. it went in to what looked liked the stock recovery. loaded something. next thing i know it was booting up with everything erased.
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Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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OriginalGabriel said:
Did you have a PC10IMG.zip file on the root of your sdcard?
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lmao i think i might have...ahh the stupid mistakes i make. anyways thanks a lot for your help. btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?
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thanks for the replies guys. no i flashed the stock recovery through adb. it sucks there is only stock or cwm. anyways the reason i was trying to get back to stock recovery is that i know gingerbread is already or will be available for htc desire z. and when it is rooted i want to upgrade to it. but i cant upgrade if i have cwm. and i dont like the modified rom people have. any ideas?
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You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
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btw if i have permanent root, and i want to flash to stock. do i have to get rid of permroot before i can install an ota?
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You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?
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You can definitely flash a pre-rooted 2.3 DZ build when you have CWM recovery lol.
You have to unroot, get back to a fully stock setup, THEN take the OTA.
I have absolutely no idea why you would do this though. You can get any number of 2.3.3+ based ROMs, both stock and modified, that can just be flashed via recovery. You can be on the latest build and keep your root. Why go through all the hassle to unroot and upgrade when you could just keep root?
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yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.
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yea i know i could. but ahh most of the roms that are 2.3 are for the u.s. i want something more canada based. if you know of any, do share. cause i dont want to have to go through all the apps and see which ones work in canada and which ones dont. what is the best 2.3 sense based rom that i can get? thanks btw.
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Not sure which apps youre referring to that aren't going to work in Canada... anything you use on your current ROM probably works on the 2.3 rooted Sense based ROMs lol.
The DZ is the G2 in the USA, and has completely different firmware. It doesn't have HTC sense. So you probably won't find many HTC Sense based ROMs that are "for the u.s." as you put it...
People like Virtuous unity. Its 2.3 based Sense with some Sense 3.0 flares. There are also a few stock pre-rooted OTA DZ builds out there. Go take a look in the dev section. If you like Sense, there are plenty of options for this device.
no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.
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no i meant the rom that i will get has some apps that dont work in canada. anyways, what do you think is the best sense based rom with 2.3? post a link if possible. thanks.
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I don't use Sense (don't like it) and I wouldn't wanna make a recommendation because I'm not very versed on them.
There are several options, I suggest you try them all and choose which you like. Lots of people like Virtuous Unity.
which tends to crash more? miui or virtuous unity?
Im selling my G2 and thought i had made backup prior to flashing to CM7.
What is the best "official" rom to go back to? And maybe a little noob guidence. I beileve i just boot to recovery and then restore yes?
The official ROM is T-Mobile's stock ROM. You can find it along with a guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unrooting_and_Returning_to_Stock
I dont want to unroot i just want to go to stock gingerbread rom
Well, I assumed you wanted to sell the phone in a state similar to as if it just came from the factory, in which case flashing the original stock ROM would be unrooted.
Than flash virtuous 2.0 - i think this is as close to stock you can get, with some good tweaks and you are still rooted
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The title is confusing after reading OPs second post :/
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stubby210 said:
The title is confusing after reading OPs second post :/
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How is it confusing? He's on cm7 now, and he wants to go back to stock without unrooting.
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ibemad1 said:
How is it confusing? He's on cm7 now, and he wants to go back to stock without unrooting.
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I was also confused. "Stock" implies stock, as in factory condition, i.e. unrooted...
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Than flash virtuous 2.0 - i think this is as close to stock you can get, with some good tweaks and you are still rooted
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He`s got a G2 though which means he never had HTC Sense, he would want Virtuous G-Lite if anything (unless that`s what you meant in which case my bad haha)
I think there are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section. Flash those for a rooted stock experience.
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I think there are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section. Flash those for a rooted stock experience.
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There are stock 2.3.4 roms that are already rooted, but it screws up. I was in the same situation. I suggest try to go back to stock 2.2 (Froyo) and then install updates. I don't think rooting the G2 on 2.3.4 is worth it really. Trust me. Its a freakin pain. Anyway, back to rooted 2.3.4 rom. I flashed it 2 days ago and it almost screwed up my phone! I can't use the market (i get an error) and I can't use music, camera, media stuff.. Its not worth flashing 2.3.4 rom. Although, if you want to be a rebel, go for it
You've been warned by the way.
There's a 'stock' rooted ROM available that works great. However, I would not sell it when rooted. If the person you sell it to gets an automatic update from HTC, it could brick the phone. Put the original non-rooted ROM back on before you sell it.
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There are stock 2.3.4 roms that are already rooted, but it screws up. I was in the same situation. I suggest try to go back to stock 2.2 (Froyo) and then install updates. I don't think rooting the G2 on 2.3.4 is worth it really. Trust me. Its a freakin pain. Anyway, back to rooted 2.3.4 rom. I flashed it 2 days ago and it almost screwed up my phone! I can't use the market (i get an error) and I can't use music, camera, media stuff.. Its not worth flashing 2.3.4 rom. Although, if you want to be a rebel, go for it
You've been warned by the way.
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Stock rooted 2.3.4 worked great for me
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Stock rooted 2.3.4 worked great for me
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Agreed. Off topic but @cheetodude24 should seek help if he/she is having problems with the rooted stock ROM.
I searched through the forums here and didn't find anything helpful. Probably because it has been a long time since 2.3 came out.
I have a stock Froyo Evo 4G (rooted). I would like to move up to 2.3.x
I find many sites online with instructions on doing it, and downloads, but I don't trust any of them. I only really trust what I read here at XDA.
That being said, can someone point me to instructions to do the update?
Also...what will I lose from the phone?
How do I re-root afterward?
When I use the phone to look for the system update it finds nothing, so I need a link to download the file(s) necessary.
Thanks in advance, I know I'm way behind the curve but my job just started using Office 365 with Lync, and it doesn't support 2.2.
Just flash a gingerbread ROM. Here's a link to an almost totally stock sprint rooted ROM. this thread may also have a truly stock sprint ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340
I would backup
from my 2yr old ICS Evo
Do NOT take an OTA update if you are rooted. Every single guide for rooting tells you this.
That being said, if you want to stay stock, fine the stock rooted GB rom in the stickies in the Dev section. Make a nandroid backup in recovery, then wipe everything, then flash. You will not lose root as long as you flash a rooted rom.
sitlet said:
Do NOT take an OTA update if you are rooted. Every single guide for rooting tells you this.
That being said, if you want to stay stock, fine the stock rooted GB rom in the stickies in the Dev section. Make a nandroid backup in recovery, then wipe everything, then flash. You will not lose root as long as you flash a rooted rom.
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I will lose all my apps and text messages, right?
My contacts and email are all in Google/Exchange so there's no worry there.
Here's. Link to almost stock sprint ROM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340
your don't need to unroot or anything. Backup whatever stuff you wanna keep with Ti Backup or mybackup root. Wipe caches and data and flash ROM.
I think you may wanna update radios, too. Update to at least the 11.19 radio. All radios are available in Calkulins thread in dev section. I would say update radio first, but maybe someone else can chime in on if that really matters.
But, you don't need to unroot, reroot, blah blah blah. Just flash updated ROM. When updating radio, do NOT interrupt the flash. It's about the only thing that can truly brick your phone.
from my 2yr old ICS Evo
Also, the thread I linked may be the slightly modified stock ROM. If so , brad has another thread in the dev section that is for absolutely stock rooted GB ROM.
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To save your text messages you can find SMS backup/restore in the market. Some use myBackup root for this, but I'm not familiar with it and can't advise.
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Bro here's the best advice I can give you I'm gonna give you two roms that I stand by as the most stable
First of all if you still want sense on the evo and want 2.3 download mikg rom v3 go to themikmik.com and go to the evo section and there will be a lthread that says update 3.11 its in v3.xx forum. There will be a download link and download the one that's not the update version after that follow normal flashing rom procedure.
Now if you want pure gingerbread then I would go to cyanogenmod.com and go to evo and go to stable release and click on the newest one download and flash there are tons of helpful forums on flashing roms if anything reply and ill walk you through... Enjoy bro
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Now if you want pure gingerbread then I would go to cyanogenmod.com
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That's funny, you misspelled "Deck's GB 1.3d" there.
Yeah, dude wasn't looking for a sense 3.0 rom, as far as I could tell.
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Yeah, dude wasn't looking for a sense 3.0 rom, as far as I could tell.
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Its actually a sense 2.0 rom there 3.0 features so it still looks like original evo
postwick said:
I will lose all my apps and text messages, right?
My contacts and email are all in Google/Exchange so there's no worry there.
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Texts can be backed up with SMS Backup and Restore. Apps and their data can be backed up and restored with Titanium Backup.
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That's funny, you misspelled "Deck's GB 1.3d" there.
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****, I thought the same thing.
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Hook your self up with Decks 1.3d with the Mason kernel and apply CoD twesks and see if you ever go back.
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Holy Cow your still running Froyo lol kid you best be keeping up with the game if your a sense user grab MIKG 3.11 amazing gb 2.35 with sense 2.1+ 3.0 its a great daily and since I'm guessing your not a big flasher... You won't need another rom for some time
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Just flash a gingerbread ROM. Here's a link to an almost totally stock sprint rooted ROM. this thread may also have a truly stock sprint ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321340
I would backup
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This answered all my last questions, the fact that I had to downgrade from 2.3 unrooted, to 2.2 and then root, once rooted but back on froyo, I was wondering how to upgrade to Gingerbread... well this post opened my eyes, I just flashed digitalkarma's ROM and I am back to Gingerbread and rooted and with awesomeness written all over the place!