Hi guys,
I just want to ask about the icons in my htc 8525. I have the 3G symbol even though i dont have data and i dont even turn the Wi-fi on. And sometimes my phone has E symbol. It didnt happen when i had wm5 before. thank you
shadowluan said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask about the icons in my htc 8525. I have the 3G symbol even though i dont have data and i dont even turn the Wi-fi on. And sometimes my phone has E symbol. It didnt happen when i had wm5 before. thank you
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Any 3G phone will get a 3G symbol when it is in 3G coverage area. Your data and wifi has nothing to do with it.
Cool , thank you
Adding, about E symbol it was symbol for EDGE data service coverage, it's 2G technology.
so in essence, 3G is when u have 3G coverage, and E is when you are roaming. just to make it clearer for you.
3G = U
E = G
Someday, when You've get 'H' symbol, then You're on 3G network which support HSDPA data service
miffymiffy said:
so in essence, 3G is when u have 3G coverage, and E is when you are roaming. just to make it clearer for you.
3G = U
E = G
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Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
ai6908 said:
Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
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that's very right thank you ai6908
3G = Third generation of data connection (within area coverage)
H = HSDPA = High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (using 3G connection)
E = EDGE = Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution (2G area coverage, no data connection is performed until you see the connection icon)
G = GPRS = General Packet Radio Service (normal and basic area coverage)
ai6908 said:
Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
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Just to make it clear.
E (EDGE) is not roaming, but E was not the same with 3G (WCDMA), 3G had faster data speed rates than E. They came from different generation, EDGE was 2.5G.
H (HSDPA) was the fastest till now, then 3G, next E and last G (GPRS) are the slowest (on GSM technology)
erwinpiero said:
Just to make it clear.
E (EDGE) is not roaming, but E was not the same with 3G (WCDMA), 3G had faster data speed rates than E. They came from different generation, EDGE was 2.5G.
H (HSDPA) was the fastest till now, then 3G, next E and last G (GPRS) are the slowest (on GSM technology)
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I think you guys are confused, let me quote
"Since 2006, UMTS networks in many countries have been or are in the process of being upgraded with High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA), sometimes known as 3.5G. Currently, HSDPA enables downlink transfer speeds of up to 7.2 Mbit/s."
H is a LOT faster then 3G, 384 kbit/s MAX for 3G and 7.2 Mbit/s MAX for HSDPA.
It goes like this
H > 3G > E > G
veyka said:
H > 3G > E > G
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Agreed, gotta love H coverage
veyka said:
Since 2006, UMTS networks in many countries have been or are in the process of being upgraded with High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA), sometimes known as 3.5G. Currently, HSDPA enables downlink transfer speeds of up to 7.2 Mbit/s.
H is a LOT faster then 3G, 384 kbit/s MAX for 3G and 7.2 Mbit/s MAX for HSDPA.
H > 3G > E > G
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oye! as I never saw the H icon on my device before, I didn't know that. thank you veyka for the explaination
farres said:
oye! as I never saw the H icon on my device before, I didn't know that. thank you veyka for the explaination
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Your welcome! I was surprised when I saw it pop up myself, seem t-mobile where I live is rolling out the new network just as i get unlimited data to
veyka said:
Your welcome! I was surprised when I saw it pop up myself, seem t-mobile where I live is rolling out the new network just as i get unlimited data to
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What? The UK is catching up to good old New Zealand technology? oh noes..
Glad we had the same mind Veyka, thanks to mention some speed number there
By the way, in Indonesian we had plant a lot BTS with HSDPA feature on big cities
zocster said:
What? The UK is catching up to good old New Zealand technology? oh noes..
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Shocking I know! Next thing you know we will all have good teeth
erwinpiero said:
Glad we had the same mind Veyka, thanks to mention some speed number there
By the way, in Indonesian we had plant a lot BTS with HSDPA feature on big cities
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Wikipedia is my friend, it all sounds very impressive, until you realise your hitting 250kbps true speed down, still good for mobile, and enough to run my comp off when the net glitches out.
I'm wondering, i've read somewhere there, it's also show U symbol, which is mean of UMTS (general meaning of GSM 3rd generation) isn't it? What then does this symbol means? Is it the same as 3G symbol?
Thx
erwinpiero said:
I'm wondering, i've read somewhere there, it's also show U symbol, which is mean of UMTS (general meaning of GSM 3rd generation) isn't it? What then does this symbol means? Is it the same as 3G symbol?
Thx
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Well, You can change the icons to what you want, so yes, you could have U for 3G, because they just the same thing, 3G just means 3rd generation, and UMTS is the teck.
Ow, okay then, thanks Veyka..
the U is the default icon for WM5 for the 3G service (or the UTMS service)
So here is my question. If you go to Settings > About Phone > Status > and then look under Mobile Network Type, it tells you which type of Network you are currently connected to.
I live in NYC and also in Washington, DC, both arees that should have patches of HSPA+, and I've never once seen my phone connect to anything higher than HSPDA.
My Question is, should it state HSPA+ in my Phone Status screen? And if so, I want proof by way of a screen shot that somebody has actually connected to HSPA+. I've had my G2 since a few days before it was released, and I check this almost everyday to see if my phone will ever display HSPA+ in the Mobile Network Type page in the settings.
Can anybody show me proof that they are on HSPA+? And I don't want to see speedtest results. Everyone claims they are on HSPA+ based on speedtest results. I want a screen shot showing this, IF it in fact does display HSPA+ under these settings when connected.
Sorry if I sound rude, I don't intend this at all, I have been wondering this for months, and have scoured the internet trying to get definitive information on this particular thing, yet to no avail.
I'm very satisfied with my phone, and in fact would recommend it to anyone in the market, I just want to see a screen shot that says HSPA+ in the settings, IF IT EVEN DOES SHOW THIS, that's all!! My phone's network connection is still pretty fast.
Because we all know the "H" could mean a number of things, it doesn't necesarily mean HSPA+ which is why T-Mobile can get away with displaying an "H" for a number of networks (not knocking T-Mobile at all, I'm a loyal subscriber).
If you consider HSPA+ to differ and to be a level above HSDPA or HSUPA, the G2 won't be able to reach it. That's because HSPA+ network can be considered multiple cell HSPA (HSPA = HSDPA & HSUPA) and HSDPA maximum throughput is 14Mb/s. That was the advertised maximum capability of the phone. Most HSPA towers (non-plus) have throughput of 2, 3, 5, 7Mbps anyway, and it's unlikely that the network differentiates between HSPA+ and HSPA. If you find yourself in an HSPA+ cell, your speeds should go as high as 14Mbps, but you may not know if it's HSDPA at it's max or HSPA+ running at a higher speed.
High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) [1] is a amalgamation of two mobile telephony protocols, High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) and High Speed Uplink Packet Access (HSUPA), that extends and improves the performance of existing WCDMA protocols. A further standard, Evolved HSPA (also known as HSPA+), was released late in 2008 with subsequent adoption worldwide beginning in 2010... so another words hspa and hspa+ is the same thing.. but when your closer to a "4g " tower of course your internet speeds will respond faster.. to know what kind of internet your on.. go to menu, settings, about phone, than network
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Hi all,
i'm in the UK and was recently on the Orange network. My speeds compared to others near my on vodafone and o2 are quite slow.
When i have the H symbol the maximum speed i can achieve is 1.78mbit whereas they are reaching over 5mbit (on a variety of apple/windows/android devices) and i am left in the lurch.
I switched to Virgin mobile today (not for signal reasons but for tariff) and my results are the same. I know Virgin piggyback onto Orange/Tmobile but at the moment i am on the virgin network and my results are poor here too.
Is there something in the phone configured wrong?
I noticed when i enter the testing menu via *#*#4636#*#* that my device is set to WCDMA preferred. Should it be on GSM Auto (PRL)? Or would this make any difference?
Or is it just that virgin/orange are slower with HSPA speeds than vodafone and o2?
Thanks in advance
i think the differece between wcdma preferred and gsm auto is just the time between network searches. if you are on gprs or edge wcdma preferred searches more often for the umts networks.
my nexus reachis in austria with 3 carrier up to 7.5 mbit real download speed (about 950 kbyte / sec)
i have hspap:15 network at home
the device should be able to reach higher download speeds, it depends on your connection quality. here in austria it happens sometimes that you are connected with hspap:15 (which is up to 23 mbit) but the backbone of the radio cell is not fast enough
kazooooo said:
i think the differece between wcdma preferred and gsm auto is just the time between network searches. if you are on gprs or edge wcdma preferred searches more often for the umts networks.
my nexus reachis in austria with 3 carrier up to 7.5 mbit real download speed (about 950 kbyte / sec)
i have hspap:15 network at home
the device should be able to reach higher download speeds, it depends on your connection quality. here in austria it happens sometimes that you are connected with hspap:15 (which is up to 23 mbit) but the backbone of the radio cell is not fast enough
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Thanks Kazoooo
I'm glad its not limited to my handset. I did notice the signal switches from UMTS:3 to HSPDA:15 often, it doesn't stick with either for a long period of time. I guess i'm on the 'border' of decent speeds?
First off I am neither, but my question probably is. What does 1x or 3x mean in my status bar? I know they are data signal indicators, but what exactly do they mean?
Bob
1x = edge speeds which are typically really slow.
3g = 3g speeds which can vary in speeds but usually is faster than edge.....3g means 3rd generation edge is the original speed for mobile internet
1x is what things like SMS and MMS are sent over, while a data connection is normally established through 3G
Sent from my PG06100
CNexus said:
1x is what things like SMS and MMS are sent over, while a data connection is normally established through 3G
Sent from my PG06100
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Actually 1x is used for Voice and SMS, 3g, LTE/WiMax are used for data and MMS. 1x in cdma terms is 1x-RTT which has a theoretical max speed of around 1mbps(avg 600kbps or 0.6mbps) while 3g which in cdma terms is EVDO has a theoretical max of 3.1mbps(avg 2.5mbps or 2500kbps). Edge is GSM technology and is not compatible with cdma hardware. 1x-RTT will transmit data but the preference is to transmit on EVDO/EHRPD or LTE/WiMax
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Actually 1x is used for Voice and SMS, 3g, LTE/WiMax are used for data and MMS. 1x in cdma terms is 1x-RTT which has a theoretical max speed of around 1mbps(avg 600kbps or 0.6mbps) while 3g which in cdma terms is EVDO has a theoretical max of 3.1mbps(avg 2.5mbps or 2500kbps). Edge is GSM technology and is not compatible with cdma hardware. 1x-RTT will transmit data but the preference is to transmit on EVDO/EHRPD or LTE/WiMax
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so is 3x 3G?
ParrSt said:
so is 3x 3G?
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There is no 3x there's 1x, 3g, LTE on the s3 or any cdma phone with 4g LTE older sprint phones had 1x, 3g and WiMax. 3g is 3g(3rd generation wireless data transmission technology) 1x is 2g (2nd generation) LTE and WiMax are 4g (4th generation) and hspa and hspa+ are GSM 3g and 3.5g(falsely claimed as 4g) respectively. Edge is GSM 2g(equivalent of 1x)
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I have the Note II GT-N7100. This is the international version that doesn't have the 1700 spectrum that T-Mobile uses. However, they have been refarming their towers to transmit on the 1900 spectrum, and our area (NY metro) is already pretty much done.
Here is my question:
Sometimes I get H+ on my phone, at other times just H. Does this difference mean anything?
And if yes, what does it mean?
Both usin 3G
H - HSPDA
H+ - HSPDA+
it depends on area coverage, some place when you are in area have H+. H+ have somewhat faster data transfer.
in 3G network
3G - your device have no active data connection
H+ - data exchangge active.when you are in area where you have high transfer data capacity available
H - data exchange active. still using 3G but less speed.
In 2G network
E - it display edge