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Windows Media problems on Dopod 838Pro

Hi all, I'm a noob here, so please forgive me if I posted in the wrong forums.
I just updated my three-month-old 838Pro to Windows Mobile 6 this morning using the official HTC Dopod SEA update image, and was already met with a flurry of problems.
Problem #1: TCPMP can't seem to find the necessary dlls to support Windows Media movies anymore. Any attempt to open them in TCPMP is met with a Audio/video codec not supported by the player error. They open fine in Windows Media Player, however. I was also having problems with the FLV extensions earlier, but the problem has since mysteriously went away after I warm reset it. The codec issue still persists.
Problem #2: The Streaming Player doesn't seem to want to work anymore. I can't tune into my telco's streaming TV channels (which I pay some $1.50 a month for access to). Accessing the stream results in a "Media file type not supported" error. The streaming did work in Windows Media 5.
Problem #3: Installing RealPlayer 1.1 preview totally causes clicking on a RTSP link in Windows Media to do nothing. If I recall I never had this happen to me when I installed RealPlayer 1.1 on Windows Mobile 5 (I tried putting Real on thinking it will fix problem #2. Fat chance). I manage to circumvent the issue by installing the Streaming Player 2.10 cab I managed to dig out of somewhere online (now the theme fits, but still no dice in getting Streaming Video to cooperate).
Apart from that I noticed that the ATI ImageON driver issue with TCPMP has still went on unfixed.
Can anyone recommend me any solutions to the problem? Did something not get installed? Is it safe to roll back to Windows Mobile 5?
Again, I'm sorry if this is not the place to ask for help, but I'm seriously lost.
Thanks.

Well, what i did was just to install CorePlayer which is currently version 1.1.1 build 1600. Basically it plays all the files u need. u can go to www.coreplayer.com to find out more. Hope that helps.

Well, I just checked - Apparently CorePlayer has the exact same problem with Windows Mobile 6 on the device. Fixed it by googling around and finding this article about shoehorning some WMP9 libraries into the system. RealPlayer has been removed via a hard reset.
However, I failed to flash WM5 back in.
I also tried reflashing the device to see if it's caused by a dud flash - nope.
So, just have to figure out why it's not wanting to connect to the streaming TV channel, keep getting a "File media type not recognized" error. The stream works fine in WM5.
So, any other Malaysians here who's signed up with DiGi Mobile TV and has a Dopod 838Pro flashed with WM6 and experiencing the same thing?

Iplayer now working!!!

Found that if you go on opera and go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer it works!!!
as quoted here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/where_to_get_iplayer/
you dont need flash it uses the video player app on Touch HD, says it works for Xperia users too and Omnia!!!
have fun, ohh you can do the following
CATCHUP
WATC LIVE TV
LISTEN TO LIVE RADIO

I don't know about anybody else.... but I already knew this! I've been using Iplayer on my Touch HD since Christmas (when I got my Touch HD).
The problem, still, is that you need wifi... you can't use your Data Connection!

I'm still having trouble. From the other threads I think a few people still do.
I've tried several times. No luck. It opens in the video player but then just hangs on "connecting".
Now that the blackstone is supported there shouldnt be any need to change the user agent... but still?

Noodled24 said:
I'm still having trouble. From the other threads I think a few people still do.
I've tried several times. No luck. It opens in the video player but then just hangs on "connecting".
Now that the blackstone is supported there shouldnt be any need to change the user agent... but still?
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Same thing happens with mine anyone out there got any ideas?

sorry i only just found this out have been watching ot through skyfire lol. i was impressed with both

My understanding is iPlayer works only on 3 and vodafone over their network at the moment. I've used it with 3 no problems.

^ True, but it should work over wifi no matter what network you use.
In my case and others, the Touch HD can't deal with Iplayer via wifi out the box.

Those of you having problems over wifi might find the problem is nothing to do with the BBC or the Touch, but your router/firewall. I have two wifi networks in my house - one is within my network behind the gateway/firewall PC and another is right at my broadband modem (in the DMZ).
Connecting directly through the broadband modem means I can watch the iPlayer no problem, but if I'm behind the gateway then the HD's streaming app can't connect. I haven't bothered to investigate which ports I need to open in the gateway to make it work within the network but I assume it must be possible.
Hope this helps suggest a pointer for investigation.

are you sure its the main site and not this one: www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer

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are you sure its the main site and not this one: www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer
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it doesn't matter if you type in bbc.co.uk/iplayer, it redirects you automatically to the mobile version.

I get: "Please switch to Wifi to play this programme.".
I'm from the Netherlands and use the Vodafone network, how can i resolve this problem?

i am on T-mobile uk, and i also get pls switch to wifi, thing is.... if you was near wifi, your probably at home, use the pc to watch iplayer lol. Guess theres always the usefulness for the toilet lol

I have the same problem where it hangs on connecting,
i've seen a video of it running but the media player the guys using isn't
the standard pvplayer that comes with the touch hd out of the box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c86913wBoYA
anyone know what media player that is?

Zooby said:
I have the same problem where it hangs on connecting,
i've seen a video of it running but the media player the guys using isn't
the standard pvplayer that comes with the touch hd out of the box.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c86913wBoYA
anyone know what media player that is?
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thats the streaming media player that comes with the touch hd.

fowler002 said:
thats the streaming media player that comes with the touch hd.
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everyone keeps saying this but it's not on mine. is it somewhere on my system? i've looked through every executable and it's like my touch hd
didn't come with the standard software.

That media player is not the default one that opens when I try to use Iplayer either. Mine has less and smaller icons. They're circles too. Not Square.
If the problem is with the router/firewall, does anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
The youtube player works perfectly over both wifi and 3g. I also have Gremote working fine... both of which require connections to the PC..?

Not working no more
I NEED HELP. i had bbc iplayer working for couple of months now. and suddenly when i want to watch something i get an error. i can go on the site, that loads up perfectley www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer yeah that loads up fine. but when i go down and click on drama or comedy, i get an error saying check server snd url. it worked b4 and its not working now. im obviously using it through wifi.
HELP PLEASE!

Touch Hd streaming BBC iPlayer

EDIT: Have discovered the problem is my bebox router, read post #10 for more details if you're having the same problem I did......
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Hi guys, i've been looking around for the past 2 days including searching through these forums for ages and I can't quite find the answer i'm looking for. A few threads have come close but don't really help because they're not
specifically about this problem.
I've got the Touch HD it came installed with pvplayer,
when I go to the BBC iPlayer mobile site the videos hang on the connecting screen.
I've seen a video of the htc Touch HD running Iplayer but the media player the browser links to isn't the one I have.
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=1902#comment-10175
That's the page I saw the video on.
I tried installing the Htc Streaming Media app, if i'm running that i get it
to buffer and I get audio but no video.
The toolbar also looks really small and it's garbled on the bottom right hand side of the screen. so i'm thinking I might have an old version or something.
So the question is.....
Does anyone know what player the guy in the video is using?
and if it's a different version of the Htc Streaming Media app
where can I get it.
Any help appreciated, oh and sorry if it's covered elsewhere, i've been going through these forums for ages trying to find it but all the answers seem to be relating to old hacks before the BBC started supporting the phone or people
going "runs great now" without saying what they're using to do it.
(originally posted in the general discussion by accident, no flaming please)
EDIT: I've been told by someone at wmpoweruser that it's the default player that comes with the phone, strangely I've never seen it, now i'm wondering
if there's a specific build from orange without the player. I don't want to do a hard reset to check just yet (i've spent the last week getting everything on there
that I need and I don't feel like starting from scratch)
if anyone knows of a .cab file with the "default" htc streaming app for the touch HD i'd really appreciate it. Thanks

Ive got mine from orange and it is included, and iplayer works.
I think it only works over wifi though, i could get it to work over 3g or when plugged into my PC.
Mike.

I got mine from orange too, but it hangs on the loading screen.

Mike1002 said:
Ive got mine from orange and it is included, and iplayer works.
I think it only works over wifi though, i could get it to work over 3g or when plugged into my PC.
Mike.
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what player is it using to stream?
mine automatically goes to pvplayer, I can't find the htc default software anywhere.
pvplayer just stops at connecting.

Having the same problem.
iPlayer launched PVPlayer and then it just hangs on "Connecting...."
Phone from Orange also.

im on orange and it seems to work fine, still in 'Beta' tho.

Catinthehat: Does yours load up in PVPlayer or a different video player?

Neddage said:
Having the same problem.
iPlayer launched PVPlayer and then it just hangs on "Connecting...."
Phone from Orange also.
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I get the same stuck on connecting when using m.youtube.com
(coreplayer can do it but I wanted to check the player was working)
are you using a bebox router? i've seen someone else on wmpoweruser had
the same problem, switched routers and it worked.
i'm on bebox too but don't have a spare router to check.... maybe thats
the problem.

I am using a bebox router which may be the issue.
I did manage to get audio using an old version of the HTC Streaming Media Player but no video and the menu's were all corrupt.
I'll try from different wifi

Neddage said:
I am using a bebox router which may be the issue.
I did manage to get audio using an old version of the HTC Streaming Media Player but no video and the menu's were all corrupt.
I'll try from different wifi
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ok cool let me know how you get on.
i don't want to go buying a router just to check
EDIT:
Discovered it's almost definately the router.
i've gone back to the standard pvplayer and I think it should work without tweaks with a different router.
to explain why i think that's the case i'll explain
i had to do a few things.....
while stuck on connecting using wifi I copied the stream file from the opera tempdownload folder
to my storage card
because pvplayer will delete a temp stream from iplayer after you stop it (confused me for a bit
because i couldn't figure out where iplayer sent em and the other streams from different sites hadn't deleted themselves)
I zipped the file in a temp folder then extracted
it again so i'd keep a copy.
I turned off wifi and turned on my data connection.
I then ran the stream file with pvplayer... it got past connecting!!
buffered and started to run.... ok it stopped every 2 seconds to rebuffer for about 10 seconds so it was unwatchable
because it's meant to be a wifi quality stream and i was running on 3g but it actually got past connecting!
so it must be my bebox router not letting me connect....
interesting side note that i discovered
you can probably run iplayer without using wifi if you grab the stream file at a wifi spot
then copy the file to a different place ... probably work ok on hsdpa connection
haven't had chance to check yet. :>

You can try this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475641&highlight=iplayer
Awesome app - still in 0.4 and a bit buggy but works in WVGA!! Best picture possible.
To stream use with tcpmp http://rghost.ru/40265 or coreplayer. Just ensure in those apps in permissions you add .mov files as assosicated otherwsie it will just download them.
RipNard

thanks for the heads up just edited my last post to explain that it's almost definately my router, i've been keeping track of that iplayer app and posting back to craftyb the bugs for the touch hd
also edited my first post to explain that i've discovered the problem (probably usefull for someone, i wish more people would do the same )

ive worked out why it hangs....
its to do with ports and blocking them, at my girlfriends i connect to iplayer via wifi, (also with the pvplayer app on orange branded handset)
i need to find out which ports need to be open so i can add the app to the router, that or try get the silly router app to not be so strict!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484776
uses streamiing media for ppc. standard with stock touch hd.

Bebox & iplayer.
Zooby said:
thanks for the heads up just edited my last post to explain that it's almost definately my router, i've been keeping track of that iplayer app and posting back to craftyb the bugs for the touch hd
also edited my first post to explain that i've discovered the problem (probably usefull for someone, i wish more people would do the same )
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Hi Zooby, I can confirm that its definitely the bebox. I have the 700 series speedtouch. I disconnected it and used a friends netgear modem and could stream iplayer beautifully to my HD and Polaris. The solution apparently is to forward ports on the bebox for the hd and apply the chosen port settings to htc streaming player. I couldnt get it to work so i bought a netgear dg834gt. The dg834n works well too. If you figure out how to port forward the bebox for the Touch HD, please let us know.

Canaan said:
Hi Zooby, I can confirm that its definitely the bebox. I have the 700 series speedtouch. I disconnected it and used a friends netgear modem and could stream iplayer beautifully to my HD and Polaris. The solution apparently is to forward ports on the bebox for the hd and apply the chosen port settings to htc streaming player. I couldnt get it to work so i bought a netgear dg834gt. The dg834n works well too. If you figure out how to port forward the bebox for the Touch HD, please let us know.
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i've tried a few different port ranges already, i saw someone on another thread talking about a specific range working but it didn't work for me
(the guy tried 4105 - 4125)
i've searched through forums and iplayer tech support pages for the ports iplayer mobile uses, can't seem to find them.
google is not my ally on this one.
will login to Be forums at some point see if anyone there has had the same problem.
I hope I don't have to buy a new router, I only just finished messing around with it to open up the last ethernet port to use on xbox live (for some reason the last port was reserved for other uses as standard).

I think that last port is used by Be techies when you authorise them to remote access your Bebox if you need help with a fault etc. I did search the Be forums a while back but nothing useful. I bet it's something really simple though. The problem is getting information from someone who's got it working. Someone on Be in the Uk, using a Bebox, has a pda phone and accesses iplayer(from within the UK). A bit of a tall order, i think.

Canaan said:
I think that last port is used by Be techies when you authorise them to remote access your Bebox if you need help with a fault etc. I did search the Be forums a while back but nothing useful. I bet it's something really simple though. The problem is getting information from someone who's got it working. Someone on Be in the Uk, using a Bebox, has a pda phone and accesses iplayer(from within the UK). A bit of a tall order, i think.
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yeh i know but i had an extra non wifi device i needed to put on.....
i've checked bebox forums, nobody seems to have a clue.
pretty much everyone on there is buying a different router.
i've tried a few options with the router, i just can't seem to open it up.
(changed firmware 3 times, telnet to change nat, specific ports related to the iplayer download manager... trust me... loads of things.)
i'm not gonna go buying a new router just to watch iplayer while in my house since i can do that from my pc anyway, for anyone that desperate to watch it from home on a bebox router.... buy a new router.

A fix is here at post 195
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436890&page=20
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3554208&postcount=195

myPlayer will stream the BBC iPlayer content over wifi or 3G. It is now also compatible with the ITV Player.
-Fry

Streaming Video from Darwin

I have been wrestling with this all day and I hope someone who has this setup can shed some light on it for me. I wanted to run Darwin Streaming Server on my dedicated box and stream video files to my phone. I got Darwin up and running no problem and can successfully stream with the rtsp protocol to quicktime on my home desktop.
The issue is no matter what file I try to get the Evo to play it just says "Media Type not supported" I have done my research and made sure the files were compatible (allegedley) using h264 and aac lc as the codecs as well as hinting them. I tried with Super/Quicktime/linux ffmpeg all to the same end. The files play fine from the sd card. Even the default array of samples included with DSS didn't stream (even after hinting them). I have tried .mov,.mp4, and .3gp just for good measure with no success.
I am running Fresh's latest (0.3) and having no issues with it if it makes a difference.
This is driving me crazy as it should be playing the files....any advice or insight would be appreociated.

I just tried my EVO with my copy of Darwin and everything I threw at it worked flawlessly.
A few points to note
1) Be sure you "hint" all your movie tracks
2) Ensure that you have the proper out bound ports opened in any firewalls, etc.
But I tried, MP4 containers with the following codecs (H264, H263, MP4V (Divx)). I tried 3GP containers and I tried a MOV container with H264 codecs.
Let me know if you are still struggling on your EVO.
Rick

Just out of curiosity, have either of you gotten this working over 3G/4G (not Wifi)?
And if so are you on Android 2.2 yet?
I'm having issues with other RTSP streamers (Haven't tried Darwin just yet) over 3G (no 4G here yet), and wondered if this app might work instead.

listen i have been at this forever and finally found the best solution to watch streaming movies from my home computer....the software is in the market its called.......ready.....androstream there is a free version to test. pm me if you need (MORE) information...i can help

Media link probs

Hi
i wonder if anyone can help, i FINALLY got my media link hd today and am having issues with video playback. The picture freezes every now and then - then restarts, but the audio is always out of sync when this happens. Ive tested dice, vplayer and the internal player with the same problem. Ive also tested on both networks, my 54g and wireless N network (i run two wifi networks).
ive even disabled one network to see if thats the issue.
Also the documents say you can check the firmware and update it with the advance settings, but when i access the settings "advance settings" is greyed out.
thanks for any pointers

hi, audiobookman
With the firmware update: you need to disconnect from the media link to get into the advanced settings.
And about the skipping: try a different file format. MP4 plays fine, but I'm having issues with AVIs so far (only using the gallery playback, since MX player didn't work at all).
I'm currently finding it very underwhelming. Though that my only be my over exaggerated expectations.