Hey guys.
Just rooted and debranded my desire this week to finally be able to get some froyo onto my Desire. I love the new features, and the general speed, but the browser is a total letdown for me. It has been reported before numerous times on this forum, and i am experiencing the same laggy scrolling. I have Leedroid 1.8 right now which came with an adblocker, and ive got plugins set to "on demand". Still that doesnt really help the whole experience.
Now what i would love is to have the 2.1 browser back. I even want flash lite back instead of full flash. Hands down, it is laggy as hell, and i would only use it to show off to friends with iphones. Flash lite didnt work most of the time, but when it worked it did its job better than full flash, sad but true.
Now it all comes down to the question: Is there a 2.2 rom availible with the 2.1 browser? If not, is cooking a rom like that even possible?
Im not far from going back to 2.1, because the browser is of big importance to me. Thanks for any help.
Edit: Oh, and using a different browser is not an option for me. I just dont like the browsers availible on the market (Dolphin HD, Opera mini, Xscope, Skyfire...)
i dont know to be honest but you can download dolphin browser its better than stock anyway
faddys123 said:
i dont know to be honest but you can download dolphin browser its better than stock anyway
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Since I don't have your browser problem on the OTA HTC 2.2 but the entire opposite experience, I'd say try a different ROM to compare. And try without moving any regular apps to SD and with. I'm starting to see a small trend where the SD card file reads are killing the CPU usage with too many loads from apps moved to the flash.
Trying to install 2.1 browser APK on mine reads "incompatible version".
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Change the plugin option to 'on demand' and it fixes the laggy scrolling.
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Change the plugin option to 'on demand' and it fixes the laggy scrolling.
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I can now get rid of my Dolphin browser.
After flashing acs frozen 1.2 rom and the genocide 2.0 kernal on my epic 4g. I'm running into some problems with the stock web browser. Pages won't display text correctly, disappear and come back as I scroll the page... rotating the phone glitches it so half the screen is black and the web page stays shrunk on the other side . I also get blocky artifacts in certain parts of the page as it loads... I flashed a new rom and still received the same issues. Any help would be great!
have you try using another browser?
if changing to other ROM gives you the same problem, much probably you have to odin back your phone to stock ROM, and give it a try again..
Okay , thanks ill give it try
I suggest trying Dolphin Browser. Very user friendly and pretty quick. I know a lot of people like Opera too. If you want small, go to RandomRom's ThunderHawk rom or Alpha hawk and pull out the dolphin mini apk from the zip.
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Hello all, I am a Desire HD user for a year.
I am using Opera 10.1 beta which is the smoothest browser i have ever used.
I installed many browsers via market and i found that most of them are really
choppy, not as smooth as iPhone's safari even flash is disabled.(Or this problem can not be solved due to the hardware?)
So, I wonder if there are any browsers that would be better than Opera?
Thanks.
The reason the iPhone browser feels smoother is that as soon as your finger touches the screen all page rendering & element loading stops, whereas on Android it continues, hence the "choppy" feeling.
You can read more here --> https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS
As for your actual question, I use CyanogenMod7 and the browser works normally, minor choppiness as per.
ive had many phones from windows mobile to android, and over the years the browser i continuously return to is opera mobile (which you cannot f***k with)
ive tried
dolphin
maxathon
stock
firefox
all the browsers suck bigtime compared to opera no matter what anyone says,
stick to opera mobile, it works well, its all in the rendering,
ive had alot of problems trying to log into certain sites with the above browsers, when i used opera no issues at all!
smooth browsers
I've tried loads of browsers for Android and I always come back to Opera, mini for speed or if u have slow internet and mobile for everyday browsing. Love it so much I'm using it for P.c aswell with the Opera link function keeps ur bookmarks synced over mobile and desktop. If u r on 10.1 beta I'd update if I were u there has probably been 8 or 9 updates since then a couple of them major ones. Current version is 11.5.3
I always use Opera too. I tried many as per this page.
For me Opera is superior because of its smoothness and pretty good speed.
If you are using ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) you could also try ICS Browser Plus from Beansoft, which is new.
From what I see, the stock browser (of Android 2.3 in HTC Desire HD) is pretty good -- it has decent speed, and it provides adequate "reflow" of text when you zoom a page.
Opera's speed is about the same, but the problem with Opera (at least the current version from Market) is that it always renders text formatted for "zoomed in" (as after double click) zoom level -- even if you zoom out, the columns width (in characters) remains the same, narrow. Which renders it less then usable IMHO . BTW, not sure why, I'm pretty sure I've see bundled versions of Opera on Windows Mobile, which rendered text with adequate reflow, I guess this is some marketing feature for them.
The rest of available browsers are just not very good from the performance standpoint. So with all the available choices, there is actually no good alternative to the stock one
Thank you guys, thanks for the information.
Hope that the stable ICS would release soon and bring our Desire HD to next level...
Last year, when the "official" 2.3 Sense ROM came out, I waited until it was rootable and then installed it (yeah, love to be on the save side).
Among several issues there was a really annoying browser bug which FC at random times, especially when navigation quite fast between several pages (for example browsing forward and back on mobile optimized sites like the forum section of "heise-online.mobi"), I think it happens after pressing the back button.
I didn't like Sense, so I switched to Oxygen and later to CM7.
In CM7.1 I often had Browser issues again, but it did not FC but just stopped responding. Searching through the internet I found other ppl with the same issue... but no solution.
Now I'm using euroskank's CM7.2RC1 Build which is really great - but guess what: Browser crashes at random times when quickly navigation.
I checked the logs for stack traces and those crashes occur always in libwebcore.
So is there something broken in 2.3's webcore implementation?
I have used cm7.1 for quite a long time using ManU 2.0 SVS kernel. Try flashing that ROM and kernel combination, coz its the most stable combo i have found. No freezes, reboots or FCs. Press Thanks if my advice works
Can't say I noticed that on rooted stock roms, but haven't really used stock browser at all.
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I'm now on CM7.2RC1 which includes several webkit fixes, but browser is still crashing.
This often happens when quickly navigating between web pages (i.e. go quickly forward/backward in threads).
*sigh* maybe I'll try a full wipe and check if this still happens.... however wiping dalvik cache and clearing data of "Browser" and "HTML-Anzeige" (HTML-View?) should reset all to default - in theory...
erklat said:
Can't say I noticed that on rooted stock roms, but haven't really used stock browser at all.
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Me too. Plus the fact that the internet cache is saved on the internal memory blows. Yeah I can link it to the sd-ext with a couple of commands but why bother when there are better 3rd party browser that does it for you and performs better.
Well, some 3rd party browsers like dolphin suffer from the same issue because they use the same webkit libs.
Had those hangs of CM7.1 in dolphin, too.
Also, I don't like firefox or opera, so there isn't much choice left...
I've been using Dolphin and I never encounter crashes with CM7 nightlies and this v7.2rc1. I'm using the mini version although I assume they use the same engine.
Maybe I should really do a clean wipe/reinstall.
I was carrying old data over from 7.1 (where I had hangs, not crashes, but some ppl reported them too in the cm forums - so I was not alone).
If it still happens, I'll create a bug report in the cm issue tracker.
I know how to collect logcat and stacktraces (tombstones), maybe this helps identifying this problem.
Edit: Done. Also happens with a clean full wipe installation - opened CM issue 4867
Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?
Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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Compizfox said:
Hi,
First of all, I appreciate that you're taking some time to read my topic
I've got a problem with my One V for a long time now. Overall, the performance of my phone is great. But when using certain apps, for example, a browser (doesn't matter which one, I tried stock browser, Chrome, Opera, Firefox, Dolphin, enz) my phone gets laggy and then completely locks up until I can't even get the screen back on and I have to hard reset it. The problem is most pronounced with browsers but I know that apps like Facebook can trigger the problem too.
I already addressed this problem earlier in the threads of ROMs I was using, but because I think most of you don't have a good idea of what I mean so I made a video to demonstrate the problem.
I have this problem with most custom ROM's. Lloir's and Maxwen's CM10 had this problem and Shpongle (which I'm currently using) has it. I used AOKP for some time back and I'm pretty sure that AOKP didn't have the problem, but unfortunately that ROM had other problems (sound not working, and that's a pretty big deal you know)
I never used stock ROM so I don't know if it's present there as well.
I feel like I'm the only victim of this issue and I've tried everything to get it solved. It's just very annoying because can't use my phone without having to reset it 1-3x per day. I'm at the point that I have no idea what could be causing it and I don't know how to solve it.
I already tried using Turbo Boost, but that didn't solve it. It is very probably not a memory issue; my RAM is not full when the problem shows up.
I'm thinking about trying to revert to stock... Maybe the issue is not present in stock ROM. But I hope you guys can help me in some way... Maybe there are other users with the same problem?
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP
sellersj27 said:
Try downloading greenify. I have this problem, and just set Facebook and other draining apps to hibernate when my screen shuts off....problem solved.
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It's not like it is "draining apps". The problem only appears when the screen is on and I use the apps actively. If the phone is so slow that I can't get the screen back on, most of the time it 'recovers' again when I wait for 30-60 minutes with screen off. Off course I don't have the time for that so I hard-reset it.
So I don't think Greenify will do anything in my case.
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Very strange... maybe your phone's motherboard is broken, so when WiFi transmitter gains signal and send it forward, there's some point in that way that causing problems... I'm talking about WiFi cause you haven't said what are you using: 3G/4G or WiFi... or maybe your router is causing those problems...
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It doesn't matter whether I'm using WiFi, 2G (GPRS/EDGE), 3G (UMTS) or HSDPA.
Second, it doesn't look like the problem happens with internet access in general. It more happens with certain apps. For example, I can stream video's from Dropbox perfectly. In that case I both have heavy CPU/GPU usage (because of the video decoding/playback) and heavy internet traffic (because I stream from Dropbox), but I have no problems.
And you haven't got back to stock completely... I propose U to flash myONEv 9.5 or Ignorance v3 (best performance and the smoothest I think) and check if that problem repeats... addintionally you can compare CM10/AOKP with custom-Sense ROMs for me custom-Sense ROMs are better than CM10/AOKP
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna try that. Thanks for your help!
Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
Compizfox said:
Today I installed myONEv RC9.5 FX+ and it is quite a bit smoother, but that goes for every fresh ROM install
I have to test for a few more days to give an answer about whether the problem is fixed or not. The problem seems to be a lot less pronounced with fresh ROM installs and I need to use it some time to be sure.
However, so far I don't think I really like Sense ROMs I've come across several things that I like better in Shpongle or CM10. For example, in most of those ROMs you get in settings an extra options menu with performance settings (overclocking, kernel settings, I/O scheduler, compcache), auto-brightness levels tweaks, auto-rotate tweaks, softkeys settings, statusbar tweaks and such. Does anyone know good compact app that features all this?
Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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All those things: NO... For OC and schedulers U can use NoFrills CPU Control or SetCPU or anything you will find... for statusbar tweaks, Ignorance ROM have additional flashable zip that offers centered clock + normal/% battery and right-side clock + normal/% battery... for RAM tweaks, you can flash ksm.zip from myONEv 9.5 thread or Triple Swap from here... as I remember Nova Launcher have softkeys settings
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Oh, and it's only Android ICS 4.0.1 I was used to JB 4.2.2
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It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?
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It's 4.0.4 actually.
Have you tried Xtreme Turbo Booster (I think that's the name)?
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xtreme turbo bosster ?
The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.
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The browser lag is not just you. I have tried every single browser offered on google play and they all become slow and unresponsive. The only browser I use is stock 4.1.2 browser. Anything else is garbage. Including Opera Mini (not because of lag but because of its bugs in reloading pages when submitting passwords,text in boxes in general..over all its a piece of sh*t) and so are the other "mini" styled browsers. Seems the browser developers have forgotten that they are developing browsers for PHONES..NOT COMPUTERS!! Hell many of the browsers bloat up after install to sizes larger than many desktop browsers..what a joke. I down rate them all on the market.
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That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.
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That reminds be a lot of chrome. It's only smooth on my Nexus 4.. on my one v it's super slow.
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you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.
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you will find that true for firefox,next,one,dolphin,opera and all the others available. developer disregard for device limitations and posting that their work is "compatible" with "any" device of certain android types. when they are truly designing for only high end devices. a bunxh of jokesters.
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The fastest and cheapest (low mobile data usage ) browser is Opera Mini... and I haven't seen any bugs in it :good:
i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..
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i beg to differ. opera mini has several bugs that go back as far as opera mini 4. inputting text in text fields like password,username and general reply/post boxes results in a page reload that requires user to start all over again...and sometimes this reload loops infinitely. the bug starts with operas flawed data compression system in which they crunch and preload pages on their servers before ypu actually get the content. its because the compression via srrver versus direct to device mucks up the transmission of the types of data mentioned. and i wont even start on the "new" opera mobile...what a joke that has become. no opera mini is not bug free by any means. and even after many users submit bug reports about the reload/lost data bug...opera does nothing...either because they cant fix it or dont think its there. well it is and has been for years..
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Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.And the UI isn't that ****ty new one, it's the one from the old symbian days, the look that actually worked.
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Opera Mobile Classic is the only decent browser IMO, it's the only one that loads pages faster than any other browser for me.
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the stock browser is spot on versus opera mobile classic,but its a very close second. to bad opera went off on the deep end with that new crap they have up on the play store. even the apps icon sucks.
I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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rostamiani said:
I have the same problem
But Opera mini next is so good to me.
Ultra FAST and stable
Opera mini next 7.5... Not old Opera mini
But the problem is not memory, it's because message cpu usage of these browsers
For Example Google Chrome run on 100% of cpu and Opera mini runs on 50% average with 10 open tabs!
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There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store
parkourz said:
There's no Opera Mini Next in Play Store
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Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en
rostamiani said:
Here it is :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.mini.next.android&hl=en
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I don't understand, I was seraching it for 20min with no results
Opera was good only in Symbian. In Android it's buggy. One browser is good.
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