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Hello, i use the AuraxTSense v7.6.1 roms. Iam a litte confused about the app2sd+. Ive created a 1024mb ext3 partition with gparted and wiped the phone.
When i look in quick system info (after installing some apps) i can read:
A2SD storage: 0.93MB, Free: 706MB
internal storage 148MB, Free: 23.27
Is this the normal way app2sd+ uses the availibe memory? I feel really bad with so less internal memory.
Ive got the feeling the app2sd+ dont write more than ~200mb on the ext3 memory.
Can someone tell me what to do?
Yeah, I'm in a similar situation.
I have Modaco's R8 with A2SD+ and I think some applications (such as Copilot) are definetely going to internal memory instead of ext3 partition.
I thought, since ext3 is symlinked as /data to fool android, all applications would end up in ext3... or have I got it totally wrong??
Why are we losing so much internal memory?
I have the exact same issue!
It is soooo anoying and I am about to go totally insane.
Even though i have partitioned my SD correctly it just eats internal storage 1:1 when i install apps.
...aslo selecting move to sd card in application manager have no effect on internal storage anyhow.
Ive got exactly the same problems. Do you have Amoled or Slcd, may they did some more hardware changes. Which rom do you use, may this is a aurextsense only issue?
Does someone have tried to partition the sd via root manager? If i do so, quick system info dont show me the partition.
Could it be possible that this is the normal app2sd+ behaviour and we just want more?
Does someone know where to find the author of app2sd+, may we could hask him (or her ;D).
i have the same problem and mine is amoled.
there has to be something wrong either with our rom developement or our setup on the phone.
help would be appreciated
btw my problem is that my dalvik cache is going to the phones memory instead of the sd! check if yours is the same under data/dalvik-cache
I have the AMOLED version and I have experienced the issues on ALL ROMs (froyo 2.2 based) that I have tried out.
I partitioned the SD card with ClockworkMod recovery 0 cache, 512 ext3.
Since I have experienced this issue on all ROMs I have tried I am starting to think that it is a SD related issue?
I never had the often build in aps2sd+ working at all.
Once I had the 2.2 build in apps2sd by google working but that was after fireing this at it: adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2.
After going back to AurexTSense rom and doing the adb shell one again it didnt work.
I couldnt even make it work again with the rom that I had it working on the one time earlier.
Since I am pretty confident that the partitioning of the SD is correct then the only difference left is that my SD is a "Gold" card.
Could this be the issue???
That the SD is a gold card?
One thing I do know for sure is that I am about to go outside and ask a total random individual if he knows what the problem is.
If he dont I will kill him and proceed with the next until SOMEONE can tell me what the #%#%#% is going on.
please delete...wrong thread...
I dont use a goldcard so i dont think this could be a problem.
iam using a 16gb sd card. may it doesnt work with this size?!
damn problem, i will go crazy with it .
Maybe the problem has something to do with the formatting of the SD card?
I personally used ROM Manager with Clockworkmod recovery to do the trick.
...perhaps that is what us experiencing this anoying error all has in common?
Because I have had the issue on all roms I have tried out I am reluctant to believe it has something to do with the SD card / formatting...?
Problem Solved...FINALLY!
Try getting the app called Quick System Info from the market.
It can detect your app2sd ext partition.
...so if you can see it in Quick System Info it is actually working.
What I did was (again) to repart my SD with 512 ext and 0 swap.
...then that issue is ruled out of the way.
Then I wiped everything and reinstalled my fav rom.
(which ROM you use does not matter at all just as long as it has apps2sd build in. This is NOT the google one in 2.2 i am talking about here.
Preferably your ROM should have app2sd+ installed and then it will automatically move all apps to SD.
Since the ext part is interlinked with internal storage you can also have widgets and other stuff on the SD which is NOT possible with google app2sd in F 2.2
After installing the ROM I downloaded Quick System Info from the market and noticed that i actually had an app2sd partition allocated and it had 385 MB free / initially it was 512 MB.
...so clearly apps has been moved to the ext part during first boot.
Cool, i went on to download google earth since its a giant app 22 MB.
The funny thing is that 6 out og 22 MB went to the ext part and the rest went to internal memory.
The same goes for Google Maps.
The thing is that some of the google apps simply has some modules that can ONLY be run from internal storage.
..aslo making these apps not so good for testing purposes in regrards to apps2sd.
Instead I installed some other apps like Break Out for droid which is about 8 megs.
It hammered into ext smoothly and taking nothing from internal storage.
Also DO NOT USE the google apps2sd as it will only move your apps from ext part into the fat32 part of your SD.
So if you have a correctly formatted SD card (like done with clockworkmod and rom manager) it will all be working automatically.
To be honest I have been fooled a bit by my own messing around
First i didnt have an ext part which ofcourse was the initial problem.
When i finally had the ext part I was stupid enough to test with the google apps and since i only was able to see amount of interal storage it appeared NOT to work.
Try it out guys and be as happy as I am now...finally
im using the amoled version of the desire, with the exact same version of auroxtsence as the op, as you can see from the screenshot, im using over 600mb on my ext3 partition....
why are some so apps going to ext3.and some not? Ive installed quake 2, it has gone to ext3. After deinstalling and reinstalling it goes to internal. This doeant make sense to me. Is this the normal behaviour?
Ive got 15 mb internal left and wasnt able to install minisquatron without using froyo a2sd. The a2sd+ dont use more than ~200mb.
So can someone tell me what to do or if someone think it runs normal tell what to test.
Is there any way of installing this damned a2sd without wiping out everything? I gues not, so ....stupid question.
Warning !
Do not look the a2sd storage in Quick System Info , this app (great app except for a2sd line ) is bugged .
Ive tchat about this on xda , and I'm not single who don't have a ext3 partition ( after deleted ) but the app say we have a storage a2sd !
Beginner here that's catching on fast but still a little wet behind the ears. I want to partition my sd card does this sound about right I'm %100 percent on the ext2 size I want it 1024mb I have a 32gig sd so space isn't an issue. What I'm not sure about is what size I should make the swap right now I'm thinking 160mb. Please help I'm planning on doing this tonight before I gotta wake up for work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Also what is ext2 to ext3 option is it needed what does it do?
Also I'm running cm6.1 stable
using ra-recovery
I run a 64mb swapfile and 1.5gb ext3 partition. Personally speaking I would not go past 512mb on swap. Really even 64mb is overkill imho as our evos don't really use it much if at all.
As far as ext2 vs 3 its personal choice. Ext3 adds journaling extensions and ups the file size limit.
Thanks for the quick advice you the man!
How the hell did you get it to a2sd to work? I've tried all methods I can find in the forum, but still installs to internal memory.
The developers thread really helped me out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938&highlight=Apps2SD
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The developers thread really helped me out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938&highlight=Apps2SD
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Yeah I tried that twice. I am loading stored apks, from my computer, does this only work when downloading from the market or what? I've tried every method I could find in this forum, with no luck.
To load apks from your sd card you must go to menu/settings/applications/ and make sure unknown sources is checked.
Also you should be running the latest version of a2sd for everything to work properly. I run myns warm 2.2 rl4 and while it is a fine rom, it is missing the latest a2sd and busybox.
After you have flashed the latest a2sd zip, you should move ALL apps to INTERNAL memory and THEN go to your android terminal and
/su
a2sd reinstall
Hey,
So over last weekend I installed the RCMixS rom, and it works good, for the most part.
I experience the following bugs first of all:
-Random restarts
-Randomly deletes alarms
-Lockscreen screws up sometimes (GO SMS Pro icon doesnt show sometimes)
-HTC Flipclock does always shows old time for a split second after bypassing lock screen
Also, I have barely installed any apps, and I have only 16MB left... I was able to install more apps using the stock software with the desire :s
Finally, I only have about ~100MB free of memory, no matter what. On the only stock software, I had close to ~250MB free usually.
Anyways, im new to roms and rooting. Is this normal? I was under the impression after I root I would get rid of all the HTC crapware and have more free space... but apparently not? Is there a better rom with HTC sense 2.1/3.0 mix out there?
Thanks!
Hmmm? Anyone?
Wow, ok. Thought this would of been replied to by now since I read it last night (sorry).
Anyway, bugs. There will always be bugs in software, especially software that is ported and is a hybrid rom, being Sense 2.1/3.0.
As for storage. The internal storage is ****. By the time you install the rom and nothing else you will have about ~130MB of internal memory available. That's where A2SD comes in. By default, when you flashed the rom it would of installed an A2SD script so no matter what apps you install, you have enough memory for it. You can't see how much space is available by going into your settings, you'll need a file explorer or an app that can read the ext partition.
Meaple said:
Wow, ok. Thought this would of been replied to by now since I read it last night (sorry).
Anyway, bugs. There will always be bugs in software, especially software that is ported and is a hybrid rom, being Sense 2.1/3.0.
As for storage. The internal storage is ****. By the time you install the rom and nothing else you will have about ~130MB of internal memory available. That's where A2SD comes in. By default, when you flashed the rom it would of installed an A2SD script so no matter what apps you install, you have enough memory for it. You can't see how much space is available by going into your settings, you'll need a file explorer or an app that can read the ext partition.
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Oh okay, but I keep getting the low-space message, anyway to fix that?
Yeh. Use a2sd. Did you create an ext partition when you flashed the rom? Like I said by default it installs one. The rom shouldn't even boot without it.
Swyped...
Meaple said:
Yeh. Use a2sd. Did you create an ext partition when you flashed the rom? Like I said by default it installs one. The rom shouldn't even boot without it.
Swyped...
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Yup, I created a 1GB ext3 partition.
is a2sd an app from the market?
nah!! its not an app..its a feature..a2sd stands for applications to sd card..most of the apps that you install can be moved to fat32 partition of your sd card..you vil find a .android.secure.blah blah name folder on fat 32 partition..But if you use custom roms which have a2sd+ feature then the apps will be stored in sd-ext partition of your card...
A2sd+ is useful because even if you connect your phone to pc via disk storage mode,you can access all the apps whereas the opposite happens when you use only a2sd...ie you cant access apps when connected in disk storage mode!!
Hmm, so apps are automatically moved? But i keep getting the low storage warning on the desire
blackdragon12 said:
Hmm, so apps are automatically moved? But i keep getting the low storage warning on the desire
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well!! not all data can be moved!!even I get that stupid warning..
lordvoldemort said:
well!! not all data can be moved!!even I get that stupid warning..
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EDIT: Okay, i tried downloading some apps, and I got the message saying "Error not enough space to download app"...
blackdragon12 said:
EDIT: Okay, i tried downloading some apps, and I got the message saying "Error not enough space to download app"...
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donno wat went wrong but I was also gettin same error wen using RCmix rom..so switched to reflexS..its workin fine
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/22945-i-cant-download-anything-bigger-than-5m-from-the-markets/
Right,
First things first, where are you?
Secondly, when did you get the phone?
If you're in the UK and you got the phone in June/July/August/September 2010 then the chances are your phone is faulty and that is the cause of the reboots. I had this happen to me so I'm going by experience here. I got a new phone and the problems completely disappeared.
Secondly, if you're running out of room:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110921
http://uploadingit.com/file/t7etuhfk1zj4hwog/RCMixS_v2.0_D2EXT_Wmjan.part1.rar
http://uploadingit.com/file/i2wdwu9xmuledzer/RCMixS_v2.0_D2EXT_Wmjan.part2.rar
Download those modified versions of this ROM and use that as it gives Data2EXT instead of A2SD+. So instead of giving the ROM 1GB of the SD card and still running out of space, you give it 1GB of SD and don't run out of space.
Kryten2k35 said:
Right,
First things first, where are you?
Secondly, when did you get the phone?
If you're in the UK and you got the phone in June/July/August/September 2010 then the chances are your phone is faulty and that is the cause of the reboots. I had this happen to me so I'm going by experience here. I got a new phone and the problems completely disappeared.
Secondly, if you're running out of room:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1110921
http://uploadingit.com/file/t7etuhfk1zj4hwog/RCMixS_v2.0_D2EXT_Wmjan.part1.rar
http://uploadingit.com/file/i2wdwu9xmuledzer/RCMixS_v2.0_D2EXT_Wmjan.part2.rar
Download those modified versions of this ROM and use that as it gives Data2EXT instead of A2SD+. So instead of giving the ROM 1GB of the SD card and still running out of space, you give it 1GB of SD and don't run out of space.
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I live in Canada, and I bought the phone August 2010 from TELUS.
So basically, its the ROM thats glitching? I just need to use a different ROM? Does that mean I have to reinstall a new ROM and re-download my apps and settings?
Thanks!
I've tried Link2SD, but after a while I still got the "insufficient storage" message.
I know that there are S2E, Data2SD, and so on, but which one is the best?
I tried S2E and it was pretty good, but then I changed a rom and it's not working on that one, but I don't want to change that rom.
I'd like to use it on a CM9 based rom.
Pr3no said:
I've tried Link2SD, but after a while I still got the "insufficient storage" message.
I know that there are S2E, Data2SD, and so on, but which one is the best?
I tried S2E and it was pretty good, but then I changed a rom and it's not working on that one, but I don't want to change that rom.
I'd like to use it on a CM9 based rom.
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I've always used link2sd and found it best of all. No lags nothing... And for space issues, I odex the system files and make sure every file is linked. I never had any problem after that.
For me link2sd is best, some users reported S2E to be working fairly well but IDK I just don't like it that much.
sukhjit321 said:
I've always used link2sd and found it best of all. No lags nothing... And for space issues, I odex the system files and make sure every file is linked. I never had any problem after that.
For me link2sd is best, some users reported S2E to be working fairly well but IDK I just don't like it that much.
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And doesn't it use up the internal space after a while?
The problem for me was that according to the settings/app menu I always had 60-70 MB, but when I checked in in Link2SD's storage info I only had 10-20 MB on the internal memory.
Is it normal or maybe I screwed up something and it's not working as it should?
I am using ad2sdx script with speeddroid CM9, but you need partition sd card for it. I have free 300mb of 510 .
Here is something about it.
There are a couple of command prompts you can do that will help.
Firstly, you'll need the Android SDK (Install the drivers etc..) HTC Sync (For the phones drivers) and the latest Java on your computer.
Plug the phone into the computer.
Open a command prompt.
Navigate to the folder you installed the SDK in.
Type in "adb shell pm setinstalllocation 2" without the quotes, and now your apps will bypass the phone and go to SD by default, so even with the low memory you can still install apps.
This won't give you more memory, but you can still install apps even on low memory.
Hello everyone,
I know I'm pretty new here but I have been digging these forums for a few days right now.
I recently bought a faster 16 GB SD Card and rooted my phone to install bigger and other ROM.
But I found verry little info (maybe I didn't looked has much or at the right place) about the swap space you can create in your sd card.
What I read was that it was usefull for the system but when I look at the differents ROM thread they never or very rarely talk about a needed swap place in the sd card partitioning.
Right now I created an ext4 partition with a little bit more than 1gb and a swap with +- 400 mb.
So my question is, is it really usefull or no?
ps: sorry for my english
Gil- said:
Hello everyone,
I know I'm pretty new here but I have been digging these forums for a few days right now.
I recently bought a faster 16 GB SD Card and rooted my phone to install bigger and other ROM.
But I found verry little info (maybe I didn't looked has much or at the right place) about the swap space you can create in your sd card.
What I read was that it was usefull for the system but when I look at the differents ROM thread they never or very rarely talk about a needed swap place in the sd card partitioning.
Right now I created an ext4 partition with a little bit more than 1gb and a swap with +- 400 mb.
So my question is, is it really usefull or no?
ps: sorry for my english
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As far as I know, there are vrey few ROMs that require swap partition. It is usually requested in the first post of the ROM's thread.
Ciobby said:
As far as I know, there are vrey few ROMs that require swap partition. It is usually requested in the first post of the ROM's thread.
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Ok, thanks !
I will re create my sd card then
Well after a few rom tested I'm not so sure about this...
Ok they never talk about swap space. But the general problem I have when I install a big rom with Android 4.x is that the memory is always full.
Therefore the phone becomes extremly slow when I launch a few applications.
The only solution I found is to install an app to manage the RAM and free some space. But even with this, I need more ram as it's almost alway full.
I will try with a swap of 512 Mo but I have no idea how other people can manage this.
If anyone have a tip about this, it would be great .
Gil- said:
Well after a few rom tested I'm not so sure about this...
Ok they never talk about swap space. But the general problem I have when I install a big rom with Android 4.x is that the memory is always full.
Therefore the phone becomes extremly slow when I launch a few applications.
The only solution I found is to install an app to manage the RAM and free some space. But even with this, I need more ram as it's almost alway full.
I will try with a swap of 512 Mo but I have no idea how other people can manage this.
If anyone have a tip about this, it would be great .
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If you use the native a2sd scripts that come with 4.x ROMs, then that's your problem. Those scripts only move data/app to sd-ext, leaving the rest on internal. Most of the memory is occupied by dalvik cache.
This script should also move dalvik to ext. Try it.
http://db.tt/m4sQLDOI
Don't forget to backup first.
I never used a swap partition. I think there's no need for it.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
If you use the native a2sd scripts that come with 4.x ROMs, then that's your problem. Those scripts only move data/app to sd-ext, leaving the rest on internal. Most of the memory is occupied by dalvik cache.
This script should also move dalvik to ext. Try it.
http://db.tt/m4sQLDOI
Don't forget to backup first.
I never used a swap partition. I think there's no need for it.
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Thanks for your anwser but right now I'm using this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213033
And I already moved dalvik and data to sd in the installation. I tried every option there, only data, only dalvik and both. Only both is working.
But this doesn't change the RAM used (or maybe it's not so important that the RAM becomes full?)
I also tried other 4.x rom and moved everything but at some point I think there is too many info in the ram and the Desire becomes really laggy.
Gil- said:
Thanks for your anwser but right now I'm using this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213033
And I already moved dalvik and data to sd in the installation. I tried every option there, only data, only dalvik and both. Only both is working.
But this doesn't change the RAM used (or maybe it's not so important that the RAM becomes full?)
I also tried other 4.x rom and moved everything but at some point I think there is too many info in the ram and the Desire becomes really laggy.
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creating a 512MB swap partition is pretty much useless as most ROMs don't implement it. It's a redundant partition which could either be used as extra sd-ext for apps or FAT32 space for music etc. It can cause problems as well depending on the order of partitions.
Even if somehow it could be used, it won't suddenly turn the desire into a phone with 1GB RAM...that's not the way it works. In cases where it is used, only a small swap partition ~25-32MB to occasionally swap a few things in and out of memory. Even then whether it actually makes a difference is dubious imo.
I would recommend repartitioning from scratch again, remove the swap partition. You don't need it, and the ROM you're running won't recognise it's even there.
It's laggy not only because of RAM, and can't be solved by magically adding more of it . Android memory works differently as well, so free RAM is wasted RAM, you shouldn't have to monitor how much is free at any given time. A big part of the lag is simply because it's a JB ROM which is simply very resource heavy on the desire relative to GB ones.
eddiehk6 said:
creating a 512MB swap partition is pretty much useless as most ROMs don't implement it. It's a redundant partition which could either be used as extra sd-ext for apps or FAT32 space for music etc. It can cause problems as well depending on the order of partitions.
Even if somehow it could be used, it won't suddenly turn the desire into a phone with 1GB RAM...that's not the way it works. In cases where it is used, only a small swap partition ~25-32MB to occasionally swap a few things in and out of memory. Even then whether it actually makes a difference is dubious imo.
I would recommend repartitioning from scratch again, remove the swap partition. You don't need it, and the ROM you're running won't recognise it's even there.
It's laggy not only because of RAM, and can't be solved by magically adding more of it . Android memory works differently as well, so free RAM is wasted RAM, you shouldn't have to monitor how much is free at any given time. A big part of the lag is simply because it's a JB ROM which is simply very resource heavy on the desire relative to GB ones.
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Thanks for the informations.
Right now I only have an Ext4 of 1 Gb + 15 gb in Fat32. I didn't had the time to recreate the partitions again. So won't do it.
Well I thought it was a RAM issue because without the ram manager app some functions becomes hard to load like.
If I receive a call the phone rings but wait some time before loading the info to display about the call.
Or if I want to answer an sms the keyboard takes time to load.
Same thing with the apps.
With the ram manager it generally loads faster but some time it gets buggy because there is too much work to do to free space (I suppose).
Well that leave me not alot of options about the capacities of the phone .
Maybe just go back to 2.3.x