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Okay, basically my phone is locked to o2. Knowing how slow o2 are I'm not prepared to sit around and wait for them to release froyo to me (they delayed the launch of the phone so many times).
I'm thinking of rooting my phone, installing an official unbranded eclair copy on my phone and then doing a OTA update to FroYo. Long as it may seem, it's the only logical way I can think of upgrading.
My questions are:
1. Will eclair install on a rooted phone?
2. I'm sure that installing an official copy on your phone removes root, is this correct?
3. Will my theory work?
Cheers.
You can debrand without routing, lots of guides online. I would show you but I am on my Desire, not at home..
Debranding is done by flashing a stock ROM to the phone. Many can be found on this very forum.
Once installed, you can check for update but I would strongly recommend using your goldcard when updating (you make this when degrading the phone).
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Hi everyone,
as can be seen in the title I got a branded Desire although i bought it as unbranded.
Long story short: I am now undecided what to do and it depends on the following:
So after hours of reading I am still not sure if it is possible and safe to completely remove the branding and have a permanently unbranded desire with official european rom and radio with which I can receive further updates from google/htc OTA at no risk AS IF I HAD BOUGHT AN UNBRANDED ONE. (I am not interested in custom roms etc since I have that with an earlier htc winmo device and ended up with backupping, restoring, flashing every second day and it costs me a lot of time)
The warranty is not so much an issue. But as far as I know I can completely revert the debranding process through nandroid... (?)
I would really appreciate any answers to wether it is possible to turn my desire into a "official/original" unbranded one.
Thx
touchhdizzel
Yes. Root & apply a stock (rooted) ROM. Problem solved. But if you accept any OTA update, you lose root.
You don't have to root but then you'll not be able to go back unless you can find the ROM that's on your device. Just make a goldcard and flash with a WWE or Europe ROM.
Thx for the answers.
A few more questions came up for both methods though.
in general:
where can i find a pure stock rom? in the wiki there is only a link to a 1.15 one.
for johnstevedoe's method:
loosing root is no problem since i dont need it. as i said i want to use it like a stock one and be able to recieve updates without having to wipe the phone.
i cant remember where but i read that ppl who had branded desires (i think orange) and used the ota update got further problems with their wifi etc. so it seems that there is still provider specific software (or hardware??) in the phone and it is therefore not behaving like a unbranded one. i guess if i dont encounter problems with the 2.2 update i might get some with future updates.
for steve228uk method:
do ihave to leave the gold card in the phone?
do i have to put it in for the ota updates?
and lastly, is there any resource for the original shipped branded roms? the xda wiki only links to one unbranded stock rom.
Thx for ur help
Dizzel
There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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There was shippedroms.com but HTC asked the guy not to release the ROMs. You only need the one update: WWE 1.21 or 1.15 and then OTA up to 2.2 Froyo. You don't have to leave the goldcard in there but it's definitely safer if you shove it in for OTA updates as some people have had issues when they hadn't used it.
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so that means that it is not possible to fully debrand with this method in some cases?
do you know anything about the method using unrevoked? is this capable of turning the desire into a unbranded one since it replaces the whole rom and parts of the boot etc. how can there still occur problems with ota when all branded software was replaced?
cheers
Hi guys/gals,
I'm going to root my Desire this weekend. I've had it for a couple of months and I want to try out different roms. But I keep having the same questions go through my head when I read the rooting guides and the flashing guides posted. I just really need to clarify a few things before I start to mess with the phone.
First, my desire was bought through VodaFone, so from what I can make out it's a Branded/Unlocked phone, correct? (meaning that the phone has a specific VF rom on it but it take sim cards from other carriers. I have not tested with another sim as of yet but form the VF forums it sounds like it's true)
So when I root the phone do I need a gold card or not?
Where can I get the generic 2.2 Desire rom from? (I'll get bashed for saying this but I like the sense UI)
OK whats all this talk about radio? is it just the FM radio (that I never use)?
I have been looking at using the modaco Custom rom, any good? I like the online kitchen thing...
Also I noticed that with CM6 there is Desire support (finally), can I still get CM6 with the sense UI? I just want to keep the phone how it is for now, once I get used to flashing it, then I'll try a more stock android ROM, but I have grown to like the Sense UI a lot recently.
Is there any thing else I need to know?
Oh, wavesecure.. Yay or Nay?
Thanks in advance.
First thing, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a not of the software version on the unit. If you're on a Vodafone handset it'll show x.xx.161.x, if you're lucky enough to be on a generic handset it'll show x.xx.405.x
If you're on a 161 handset you'll need to make a gold card to allow the phone to pass CID checks to flash a generic HTC ROM. If you wanna go custom then you'll need to root the phone following the instructions dotted around random forums
Hi,
I had the same. Unbranded phone from VF UK, the updated it with the branding... I rooted it and flashed Neo's custom ROM from this site and not looked back!
Here are the steps I took, but please do your own research...
1. Use unrevoked to root.
2. Get Titanium backed to backup your apps.
3. Get a ROM and Radios you want to Flash, copy it to your device. I used Neo's 1.7.1.
4. Boot into the recovery menu.
5. Do a Nandroid backup.
6. Wipe the various caches...
7. Flash the device.
8. Flash the Radios.
Was simple. Didn't need a gold card.
Search for a Vodafone thread in the Q&A is a week old. I think its call Vodafone update not Froyo. I've posted in there too. On page 2 or 3 someone has posted instructions which I carefully followed to the letter...
Good luck!
Kiz
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Excuse me for probably asking things that have been asked before, but I have not been active in this forum and I am really inexperienced with both Android and Desire.
I have had an HTC Desire on stock Orange UK ROM since the day the Desire was released. A couple of weeks ago or so, I did the official OTA to 2.2 and everything is fine.
However, I am growing increasingly tired of all the bloatware and crap Orange has installed on the mobile phone, and would do with trying some other non-stock 2.2 ROMs, including Cyanogen ports.
My question is simple:
Do users who have had the 2.2 OTA follow the same procedure as all other users, or do we first have to perform some other steps, such as downgrading to a stock or non-stock 2.1, etc?
Is the root/su process the same for 2.2 users? And finally, is there some 'false-proof'/'fool-proof' recovery image that we can install before we start meddling with our phone (and so that we can possibly restore to it for warranty claims?)
Just follow the guide on here for using unrEVOked 3.21 and you'll hopefully have no issues. Just bare in mind that doing this will mean until an Orange RUU is made available (if at all) you won't be able to send it to Orange under warranty should something go wrong
Can you please elaborate on what you mean by this?
Is there a way to create a NAND dump or some other way to have a back-up of the current image/ROM in the phone so that I can return to it if so desired?
It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd
If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!
I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?
Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...
Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.
Hi, I regret to say I am a noob. I have read around for the past few days and have a general idea of rooting and flashing ROMs.
I have a branded T Mobile DHD and I not only want it debranded, but I want it to function as if T Mobile never touched it. That is, I want to be able to debrand it once and then receive OTA updates direct from HTC when they are released (all the way up to the eventual ICS).
I have two main questions. One, can I replace the T Mobile ROM with the Stock HTC one without root and without a custom recovery (that is, installing the stock ROM using the stock recovery -renaming it update.).
Two, do I need to change the CID to HTC__001 to enable future OTA updates?
There may be things I have missed. Please point me in the right direction if this is the case, cause the info I've found isn't as specific as I'd like it.
Thank you!
Unfortunately not sure if there is such a thing. I have rooted and used custom ROMS and in the end went back to my providers RUU. I find even though some bloat ware the software is fast enough bug free and battery life is very good. Search the net maybe find your answer there.
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rzgomba said:
Unfortunately not sure if there is such a thing. I have rooted and used custom ROMS and in the end went back to my providers RUU. I find even though some bloat ware the software is fast enough bug free and battery life is very good. Search the net maybe find your answer there.
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I should have clarified, I'm using a T Mobile DHD off ebay with a 3 sim. The reason I want to have a clean DHD is primarily so I can be free from waiting on T Mobile for updates. The reason I want to be clean and have OTA direct from HTC is because I've always been happy with stock, unbranded ROMs.
Thanks though.
Is there no way of completely restoring the DHD to a purely unbranded state so that it functions as a factory bought one?
I read this
"If you're coming from a branded ROM and just want to debrand, you can stop here. By reverting back to an unbranded 2.2 ROM, you will now be able to receive OTA update straight from HTC without any network bloatware. You can continue with the root process, but it is not recommended you download OTA updates when rooted."
on androidforums, the thread "How to root and install a custom ROM on the Desire HD" (I can't post links)
Which is what got me thinking about debranding and leaving it there, but reading up about CID and OTAs I got confused, wouldn't mine still be T Mobiles and not HTC__001 after downgrading? It'd be great if someone could explain how simply reverting back using a goldcard results in successful HTC OTAs.
Or I could just root the phone and install HTC WWE ROMs as they appear online.
What would be best?
You would have to gain root/soff/supercid first after that you just simply flash the unbranded ruu.
It should be doable, I would imagine all it takes is setting the proper CID/MID and flashing a WWE RUU, and never rooting/installing custom recovery.
Hunt3r.j2 said:
It should be doable, I would imagine all it takes is setting the proper CID/MID and flashing a WWE RUU, and never rooting/installing custom recovery.
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Could I use the Advanced Ace Hack Kit to give me those permissions, then using the Kit revert it to a WWE RUU?
If not, I'll try rooting then installing a RUU separately. I know how to install ROMS from zip files through recovery, how do I install a stock exe RUU on a rooted phone?
Reverting back to son unbranded to me would be an unnecessary step. This is what I would do.
1)use the hack kit to get supercid/soff
2) flash the unbranded ruu
3)done
To flash an ruu, you would simply just run the program from your PC with your phone connected