Error "main version is older" "Update Fail!" Truly RESOLVED!! - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Do you have an HTC Evo and you want to truly get it rooted and have the NAND Unlocked? I've figured out how to get this done when the other methods out there today result in the error "main version is older - update fail!" when you try to downgrade your Evo from 1.47 to 1.32. I searched high and low and couldn't find a solution for this error. The more I searched the more I learned about the stage that was failing and walla, I figured out a solution. This should work for you too.
The instructions below will give you full root, NAND unlock, and Recovery from start to finish.
All files are attached in this archive. It's large but I think it's best to use the files/versions that I know will work. Feel free to post mirrors if you are able to host.
During the process below the phone can be connected to your PC via USB.
Files:
bit.ly/evonand
Large file but it has everything you need!
1) Revert your Evo to the stock setup using the file:
1=RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459.exe
Follow the steps on the update program, allowing it to flash your phone to the stock 1.47 setup.
2) After the phone is ready to unlock the screen skip through the setup and get to the home screen. Enable USB debugging.
3) In the folder named: "2-Root+Recovery" from my archive, run the file: "reflash.exe"
4) When this application is launched it does it all automatically. The result will be a rooted EVO with a custom Recovery installed. Boot the phone back to the home screen again.
The HBOOT Drivers for your PC are in this folder as well, if you haven't already install them from one of the previous guides. You'll see what I mean during the reflash.exe process.
5) Once you're back to the home screen, enable the USB Drive option so you can browse your SD card on your PC.
6) Copy this file (Available in my archive) to the first level of the SD Card:
3-ROM_Supersonic_1.32.651.1_rooted.zip
7) When the copy is complete, power down the phone. Hold down the volume down key while powering back on the phone. After the initial check for update it does automatically, select "Recovery" from the options.
8) Using the recovery program that comes up, clear the user data and cache, then select the option to install .ZIP file from SD Card.
9) Proceed with installing the ROM you copied to the SD card in step 6. When this is complete, Recovery will say "Complete" Reboot the phone using the options on the Recovery program and skip through the setup options, getting to the home screen.
Here's your status at this point - Rooted, Custom Recovery, and downgraded to OS 1.32
10) Open the folder "4-NAND Unlock (1.32)" and run "Simple root.exe"
11) You're now on step 2 thanks to the above steps. Click on "Step 2" on this simple root program. Follow the instructions and then when that's complete, run "Step 3" to flash a newer Recovery program. The steps above have installed an older version.
12) And that's a wrap. In step 11 you'll notice the Update Fail error doesn't come up. You're able to flash the update needed to achieve NAND Unlock and you can, in my case, now install the super speedy and functional Froyo ROM from Cyanogen. And trust me, it's worth it. The ROM is fun and responds faster than ever before! Enjoy

so this is just using unrevoked3 to root and then downgrading you so you can use the original simpleroot correct?

yeah thats what kept happening to me. I used unrevoked at first, and then tried doing the toast root and it wouldnt let me because of "older version" so i had to do simpleroot and had no prob after that

why are you downgrading at all just root the latest 1.47 and flash CM6. no need to go back to 1.3

thanks, this worked for me, even went back to full unrooted stock and tried the simple root ota and kept getting that error. this worked, but how do i make sure nand is unlocked? I restored nandroid to the last backup i had when i was rooted with Unrevoked3, hopefully that does not screw things up.

N00dle said:
so this is just using unrevoked3 to root and then downgrading you so you can use the original simpleroot correct?
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Yes and no - You do use the simpleroot in the end, but start on NAND unlock steps since the previous work gets you rooted and downgraded.

OneStepAhead said:
why are you downgrading at all just root the latest 1.47 and flash CM6. no need to go back to 1.3
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Good point, but this thread is meant for those of us who had issues performing the simple root OTA 1.47 edition.

Where is the archive!?

Worked for me.
Someone who has been fighting this probably already has most of what is in your archive already. All they would probably need beyond that is the older rooted stock ROM and maybe the RUU.

Uhm...OP. Your post fails in same place many others do...you do not have CLEAR instructions on when to be USB attached, when mounted when charging, where to put the files...what system you were running all this on...etc. (When you do mention USB you call it 'usb drive option'...not heard that term before.)
I am a training developer and instructor for many many years. It is so very common to see someone write instructions and miss the bits they 'just know'. If you are aiming at noobs with this...you might want to put in all the minutia.
Good try though and great job sharing your experiences and what worked for you. Sorry for picking on you.

I can confirm this actually does work I discovered this method a week ago and have been helping members use it. I've also been working on a tut just not that great at writing it which is very important as the user above pointed out. I'm also working on a automated method to get this going easier for users. if anyone really needs help getting this done send me a pm as I put in many other threads I will walk you thru it in english laymans terms. Thanks op great work where did you find it?

Im having the same issues as the OP had and I tried doing the first step of reverting but i get Error: 170 which states can't connect to device. And says make sure USB is plugged in blah blah.. Yet it is. Whats the deal

tlxxxsracer said:
Im having the same issues as the OP had and I tried doing the first step of reverting but i get Error: 170 which states can't connect to device. And says make sure USB is plugged in blah blah.. Yet it is. Whats the deal
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Did you make sure Debug is checked?

Still can't get past the main version is older message
Rooting the EVO
On friday a friedn tried to root my EVO and was using simple root, and he couldn't get it to work. I'm not sure how far he got but here is what I know so far, and what i've tried to get it to root. Please offer instructions on what I should do to get rooted and get a good ROM loaded to the phone. Though I am not technologically ignorant, I have never rooted a phone, and I am not a programmer. Please dumb down your instruction for a noob.
Firmware Version
2.1-update1
Baseband Version
2.05.00.06.10
Kernel version
2.6.29-789bf291 [email protected] # 1
Build Number
1.47.651.1 CL195459 release-keys
Software number
1.47.651.1
Browser version
webkit 3.1
PRI Version
1.40_003
PRL Version
60668
Desktop Operating System
WinXP Pro SP3, 32 bit
These are the versions I see in hboot
SUPERSONIV EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.79.0000
MICROP-014F
TOUCHPANEL-ATMEL224_16AB
RADIO-2.05.00.06.10
Apr 14 2010, 15:41:34
Steps I have attempted
1 - Tried the method here...
ht tp : // forum. ppcgeeks. com / showthread.php ? t = 123714
(remove spaces to activate link, i'm new so i can't post links in messages)
and got stuck at step 1F because the phone never asked if I wanted to start the update, just got the “main version is older” error
2 - Tried Simplerootfull.2
Had error with .net framework v4. Something or other, downloaded newest version and then I was able to install the program. However, on step1 I got the “Main Version Older” error.
3 – Tried This
ht tp : // forum. xda- developers . com / showthread . php ? t = 739321
(remove spaces to activate link, i'm new so i can't post links in messages)
Which is specifically suppsed to address the “Main Version is Older” error
Step 1 – Im pretty suyre I already had this ROM installed, because it installed 1.47.651.1, Radio 2.05.00.06.10 and CL195459, which I already had installed, as you can see above. I did the update anyway, and it completed with a picture of the phone and a green circle with several arrows, then I got the white HTC Evo Screen and sprint boot sounds etc.
Step 2 – Completed Succesfully
Step 3 – running reflash.exe automatically starts unrevoked3, which reboots the phone to the HBOOT screen, and it tries to load the pcimg file that I already had on the card, gives me the Main Version is Older Message, I then select, Vol Down, to tell it not to reboot. Then I follow the onscreen instruction in unrevoked3, which tells me to “Press Volume down to choose “HBOOT USB” and then press power. Make Sure driver is installed!” I can only guess it's talking about the driver to communicate with the PC, but whatever the intent, I still get the “Main Version is Older!” error.
I guess I don't understand something fundamental to this process, because i've now tried three different methods to root this phone, one that was SPECIFICALLY supposed to address the “Main Version is Older!” error message, and i'm still stuck at square one. I appreciate all the help I can get.
While i'm waiting for a reply for this, i'm going to delete all the files i've copied to the root of the sdcard and try again. Stop me if im about to screw something up....
Thanks
Chris

So I deleted all the files I copied to the sdcard myself, and then ran reflash again. This time there was no pcimg to attempt to load, so I was able to do what it required, and it looks like it tried to run hboot using the android drivers through the USB cable. I had to install the android drivers in the middle of this step but it appeared to work.
Step 4 – Appears to have worked, but unrevoked is still “Waiting for reboot...” so i'm not sure if it got it all done or not...
Step 5 – Enabled USB Drive.
Step 6 – File Copied Succesfully
Step 7 – When I select recovery from the options, I get the regular green headers across the top of the HBOOT screen, and then highlighted red I see
FASTBOOT USB
but I dont see any option that says “clear user data and cache” or the option to install a .ZIP file from the SD Card. I'm going to try and do reflash again.

Yes, i know usb debug is checked.
I tried to use simpleroot, and it goes smoothly up until the last step when it says wait till it goes to the white screen with the skateboarding android. It never goes there and when I try to do it manualy it still does main version is older.

i think I'm making progress
Ok this time I got past the waiting for reboot message in unrevoked, and got the
“Waiting 5 seconds because windows sucks”
then got
“Communications with Phone unexpectedly interrupted. Try Again”
both in the unrevoked windows in, well, Windows
on the phone however, I see the Clockwork Recovery v2.5.0.1 and I now see some of the options that I did not before. However the wording is slightly different. I've got
wipe data/factory reset (instead of clear the user data)
wipe cache ( instead of clear cache)
Install zip from sdcard.
So I guess now i'll go back to Step 8, and do those steps.
Step 8 – since I didn't have “clear the user data” I selected “wipe data/factory reset”
It formatted my sdcard, I'm gonna be really unhappy if that wiped my backups of my SMS messges and Call Log. I needed that info in there, that's why I backed it up.
I selected “wipe cache partition”, even though it said it was formatting the cache in the previous step.
Nothing noteworthy after that action.
Step 9 – since the instruction are a little unclear as to exactly how to do this I just selected “install zip from sdcard”, followed by “choose zip from sdcard”
I did see that it did not remove the calllogbackup folder or smsbackup folders, so I hope that those contents are still intact. It also found the 3-ROM_Supersonic_1.32.651.1_rooted.zip file that I copied to the sdcard before I did the wiping operations, so i'm assuming my concerns, at this point, are unwarranted. I still feel better when I can see my sms and call logs in the phone though.
Ok it appears like i've got a “Install from from sdcard complete.” message with no errors that I can see...
So “reboot the phone from the options on the Recovery Program” doesn't appear to be a available selection, so i'll pick “Go Back” and then “Reboot Now”
I have confirmed at this point that I have the following changes in Software Information
Kernel Version
2.6.29-a2443432
[email protected] # 1
Build Number
1.32.651.1 CL171253 release-keys
Software Number
1.32.651.1
So it appears that i've done the following
1 – rooted the EVO
2 - Installed the custom recovery “Clockworkrecovery”
3 – Downgraded to OS 1.32.651.1
Yay!
On to step 10...

Step 10 - Running Simpleroot, and it is giving me lots of “Good!” messages, I'll take that as a good sign. It's loading the PC36IMG.zip like it did before, crossedfingers hoping for no “Main Version is Older Error”
…...
Sweet! I Got the “Do you want to start Update?” so I guess that means I am progressing in the right directino
TP (it looks like it skipped this one altogether, there is no message to the right of it...)
TP “Bypassed”
Update Complete do you want to reboot the device?
Yes I do, and it booted just fine, and then I was able to Flash to the updated ClockworkMod Recovery v1.8.2.2. Success!!!
Thanks for the help with this OP, i hope my extra notes help anyone who got stuck where i did!
Now i just need to decide what custom rom i want to run.

Thank you SO MUCH!!!! I was beating my head against the wall all night trying to use the OTA 1.47 SimpleRoot. This worked like a charm!!

Im still not even able to get past Step 1 by using the .exe to factory restore..

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Do i have root now?

i made everything like in the tutorial for bootloader 0.80 but some of those went a bit diffrent... but i aint got no O2 scenes on my desire anymore
how can i check if i got it right rooted?
Do you have an app now called superuser?
no i dont got an app like that
I don't think you are rooted then. What steps went differently?
Try installing an app that needs root and see if it works.
Edit: try something like titanium backup.
ok. i aint got root. thanks. Next try
No worries. If you get stuck rooting post here and I'm sure between us all we'll have your phone running custom roms in no time!
now i really need help. so i tried to root with this guide
"Guide to root using Windows, MAC OS X and Linux
1. Download following items:
---- If you have a bootloader version 0.75.xxxx or below AND a current ROM of 1.15.xxx.x or below - DOWNLOAD / MIRROR
---- If you have a bootloader version 0.80.xxxx or below AND a current ROM of 1.21.xxx.x or below - DOWNLOAD / MIRROR
2. Unzip the file you downloaded to a directory, then open a command prompt / terminal window at that directory.
3. Turn off your HTC Desire, then turn it back on with the 'back' button held down. You'll see 'FASTBOOT' written on the screen in a red box. Connect the phone to the computer.
4. In the command prompt/terminal window, enter either 'step1-windows.bat'(for windows), './step1-mac.sh'(for mac) or './step1-linux.sh'(for linux)
5. Navigate to the 'BOOTLOADER' and then 'RECOVERY' option on the menu, using the volume buttons to move and the power button to select.
6. In the command prompt/terminal window, enter either 'step2-windows.bat', './step2-mac.sh' or './step2-linux.sh' as appropriate.
7. When this has completed, your device should be at the 'recovery'("green") screen. Select Wipe and then press Wipe data/factory reset
8. Once complete you should be back in the main menu. Now select the option Flash zip from sdcard and than choose rootedupdate.zip
9. Once back in the main menu, choose restart the phone - the rooting process is now finished
"
First of all i got bootloader 0.80XXXX and it was o2 branded germany. i got windows 7 32 bit. So first i made a Goldcard. then everthing went good. but at step 5 if i try to choose RECOVERY it takes me to the Red Triangle. So of course if i try 'step2-windows.bat' it does not work. Can u help me out?
What errors are you seeing? Make sure that you have HTC sync and the sdk installed.
ok now i made everything as i made it before... i had errors after step 5 .. but then it went good and i saw the green screen and made everything like in the guide. but i aint got an app with the name superuser. i installed busybox and titanium. what shall i do with titanium to know that i got root now?
For titanium to work your phone has to be rooted, so if it works then you are sorted!
What rom are you running? Go to Menu> About phone>Software information. What does build number say?
it says 1.21.405.1 CL172503 test-keys
As far as I remember test keys means step 1 has worked and you are now rooted.
Try to flash a custom rom from the dev section now. To do this you need to go back into recovery and wipe everything then flash the new rom.
which custom rom is good for a newbie?
Do you want sense or are you not too worried?
I am currently using this one and find it very good, and stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=674688
It has sense on it. You can overclock your processor to make it work even faster, and it has nice battery icon etc.
Edit: I'm using the bravesoul version
i will try the non'overclocked version. at this moment i am installing. everything is doing good so far. i will post in some minutes if it was successful
OK Good luck!
i think it worked . Build-Nummer - Pays Desire with Sense. THANKS A LOT
Happy days! Glad I was able to help.

A few questions before first root attempt

Ok, going to follow the SimpleRoot OTA 1.47 how-to, but I have a few questions first.
How do I back up things like my Contacts?
What the latest "radio" and how do I check and get the newest?
How do I wipe caches? Or will the SimpleRoot guide tell me?
Any ROM recommendations? I was thinking of just trying Fresh.
Do I need to do any adb setup prior to starting?
I have been reading through the guides, but there is SO much info here, it takes too long to get through it all. Plus, I'm not even sure of all the questions I need to ask!
Thanks in advance for any and all help!
1. Use Titanium Backup. It will back up whatever you want, I backed up EVERYTHING (apps + system data) and it brought back all my settings, texts, even my scenes. I had to use Unrevoked on my 1.32.651.6 stock build to install TB, followed TheBiles "Idiot-Proof" guide for that part.
2. The radio is the baseband. I actually never flashed mine, and I haven't had issues, but I don't use 4g so I wouldn't know how that works. There are links to a few radios here, but otherwise check the thread or webpage for the custom ROM you want to flash and it might link to the recommended radio.
3. Wiping caches is done through recovery (Amon RA, Clockwork, or using ROM Manager from within a rooted ROM). You do it right before you flash the custom ROM. SimpleRoot will just root the phone, then you'll want to install ROM Manager and use that flash your preferred recovery (that's a whole separate debate).
4. I've been reading up a lot in the last day or two, and Fresh seems to be very popular. I'm using it right now, no problems so far! I've used DC, I had a couple of issues, CM6 is cool but still changing all the time. Go with Fresh at least to get your feet wet. Follow the guide that flipz provides in his Fresh thread.
5. I didn't use SimpleRoot, I rooted manually using ADB. If you're comfortable with using a terminal/command line (or at least typing and following directions) ADB might be a good idea. But if SR gives you a full-root, you don't need ADB at all. It's basically just a telnet connection to your phone.
Hey, whatdya know? I answered them all! There may be better answers, but I think this is all correct. PM me if you need more help, or I'll subscribe to this thread for a few days. I'm new but I'm learning fast and I LOVE this stuff!
Also, here's a good portal for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709267
Titanium backup works great for most things but you have to be rooted to use it. Your contacts should be backed up directly to your google account if you have done it correctly. When you add a contact to your phone it will ask if you want to add it to google or as a "phone" contact. Make sure you save it as a google contact. Or you can go to your google account on your computer and sync all your contacts. I used SimpleRoot to get my phone started and then I went through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
That is where I started with everything.....fully unlocked and stock rooted with the newest radio. I also used Amon recovery from SimpleRoot instead of Clockwork. SR will clear all your cache, factory data, etc. Im running Damage Control ROM right now and love it. But it's fun to get your phone rooted and then just start using root apps and go from there. Oh, and the best thing for me about using SR and then going through the next thread I posted is that you dont have to use ADB. ADB is pretty simple but the SR + thread process took me about 25min.
Yeah, on that note, it's super-easy to just make a Nandroid or Clockwork backup of your flash, then flash something else to try it out. If you want to go back, just restore the backup and you're right where you were before.
And, of course, backing up contacts on Google is easier.
Running through the SimpleRoot and it got to Starting Part 2... and it's just hanging out doing nothing, been that way for a few minutes now. I didn't copy the PC36IMG file to the SD card, was I supposed to?
Will it bork anything if I disconnect, switch back to Disk Drive as the connection type and drop the file on the SD card? Do I need to do that? Am I retarded?
Not sure as I went through toast's manual method, but it shouldn't do any damage to start over. If Android is still running, I think the system will still be intact.
Well, I think I figured it out, sort of. I never got prompted to reboot into the bootloader until I disconnected the phone. Once I did that, it told me what to do. But, when I installed the update, the bootloader gave me this message: Main version is older, update fail!
Do I need to use the PC36IMG file for 1.47 now? SimpleRoot did push the PC36IMG file to the phone, btw.
ElectricWraith said:
Well, I think I figured it out, sort of. I never got prompted to reboot into the bootloader until I disconnected the phone. Once I did that, it told me what to do. But, when I installed the update, the bootloader gave me this message: Main version is older, update fail!
Do I need to use the PC36IMG file for 1.47 now? SimpleRoot did push the PC36IMG file to the phone, btw.
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i had the same issue, you need to make sure all the steps are complete before you go into step 4 and boot into bootloader...so make sure after pushing the files you finish step 2 and 4...it worked for me...my pc kept hanging on some steps so i tried it on a different pc and it went throught perfectly the first time around.
Uhh, starting to get a little worried here. I deleted the PCIMG36.zip file per the "Starting Over..." thread, and copied the su-2.1 file on to the SD card. Rebooted into bootloader, selected Recovery per the instructions, now I have a red triangle with and exclamation point and an unresponsive phone!
ElectricWraith said:
Uhh, starting to get a little worried here. I deleted the PCIMG36.zip file per the "Starting Over..." thread, and copied the su-2.1 file on to the SD card. Rebooted into bootloader, selected Recovery per the instructions, now I have a red triangle with and exclamation point and an unresponsive phone!
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you're fine that's just telling you that you're in recovery mode follow the steps....it should tell you to run a command in you're command prompt which will get you into recovery and then you backup nand, wipe, and load image from sd card
Ah, OK. I pulled the battery and it came back to life. Didn't see anything in that thread about commands, but I will read it again.
just boot your phone holding power and volume up button and then when you see the white screen go down to recovery and press the power button...now you should be in recovery mode from there just follow instructions. you should backup nand, wipe cache and wipe data, and install rom from sd card.
That's the problem, following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915, I don't get any instructions for the recovery portion that match what I actually get on the phone. I don't get the different menu so I don't get a chance to flash from the su-2.1 file.
Arrrgh! Here's what I did:
Replaced the PCIMG36.zip file that was in the SimpleRootOTA folder that I downloaded with the PC36IMG-1.47.651.1_eng-hboot_RA-1.7.0.1.zip file (renamed to PCIMG36.zip)
Ran SimpleRootOTA, followed all instructions
When I got to the place in Step 4 where I was supposed to be prompted to install the update at the bootloader, it didn't happen. I assume that this was due to the fact that I had already applied that update
I unplugged, looked in the root of the SD card, found that the PCIMG36.zip file had not been pushed.
I copied the file on to the SD card, rebooted into the bootloader, let it scan the PCIMG36.zip file and apply the update, then rebooted.
So, that's where it sits now. I'm out of time and can't do anything more with it, so I just re-installed MyBackup and am restoring apps and data.
Any ideas as to what I should do next?
Hopefully you are just transposing numbers in your post? According to the thread you linked, the name of file should be PC36IMG.zip....you are writing PCIMG36.zip....those are very different.
edit...and if you are getting stuck at step 4...that sounds like what you did.
youngdhillon said:
just boot your phone holding power and volume up button .
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volume DOWN button
2. Power off your phone.
3. Hold down the Volume Down and Power buttons until the white screen appears.
4. HBOOT will scan the PC36IMG.zip file. You'll see a blue progress bar on the right side of the screen.
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ElectricWraith said:
That's the problem, following this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915, I don't get any instructions for the recovery portion that match what I actually get on the phone. I don't get the different menu so I don't get a chance to flash from the su-2.1 file.
Arrrgh! Here's what I did:
Replaced the PCIMG36.zip file that was in the SimpleRootOTA folder that I downloaded with the PC36IMG-1.47.651.1_eng-hboot_RA-1.7.0.1.zip file (renamed to PCIMG36.zip)
Ran SimpleRootOTA, followed all instructions
When I got to the place in Step 4 where I was supposed to be prompted to install the update at the bootloader, it didn't happen. I assume that this was due to the fact that I had already applied that update
I unplugged, looked in the root of the SD card, found that the PCIMG36.zip file had not been pushed.
I copied the file on to the SD card, rebooted into the bootloader, let it scan the PCIMG36.zip file and apply the update, then rebooted.
So, that's where it sits now. I'm out of time and can't do anything more with it, so I just re-installed MyBackup and am restoring apps and data.
Any ideas as to what I should do next?
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ok if you has updated without any errors and you're rooted...
1)turn off your phone power it back on holding the volume down button and power button at the same time
2)when you see the white screen with HBoot menu scroll down using volume down button, highlight recovery and press power button.
3)you should now see a different menu (black&green) you are now in recovery from here:
4)select backup nand it will ask you to confirm hit power button and wait till it backs up you're nand
5)go down to wipe data...highlight wipe data hit power, confirm
6)wipe cache...confirm
7)load rom from sd card (you should have the su-2.1 in you're sd card) it will let you choose, choose su-2.1 hit power, confirm and let it finish.
you're done wait for the phone to reboot into you're new rom
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volume DOWN button
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oops sorry about that, volume down
Yes, I was just transposing digits, DERP.
I will try again later. Thanks for all the help!
Well, I just booted into the bootloader, it scanned the PC36IMG.zip file, but didn't do anything else but put me back at the bootlader menu. I selected Recovery, hit the power button, then black screen with image of phone and red triangle w/exclamation point.
No idea what's wrong or what to do now except pull the battery.
ElectricWraith said:
Well, I just booted into the bootloader, it scanned the PC36IMG.zip file, but didn't do anything else but put me back at the bootlader menu. I selected Recovery, hit the power button, then black screen with image of phone and red triangle w/exclamation point.
No idea what's wrong or what to do now except pull the battery.
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I remember this problem and I'm trying to remember what I had to do. It seems like after it scanned the PC36IMG.zip it asked if I wanted to scan and I had to say "no" and then after that I could boot in to recovery. I remember it being some dumb little mistake that I made like 2 times in a row and then had a "d'oh" moment when I realized why I kept getting the red triangle. Man, I'm gonna try to remember this and post later. Hopefully you get it though.

EVO Bricked? Please Help

I had rooted my phone and updated the radio to 1.47.651.1 when I tried to update a custom rom I accidently re-ran PC36IMG.zip and it rebooted quick NOW the radio says 1:39:00:04:26
and in the options below I now have
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
CLEAR STORAGE
SIMLOCK
HBOOT USB
I tried putting the phone on FASTBOOT then connected it to the USB and began a stock rom not rooted and it boots my phone into an HTC Black screen Boot mode and begins to update until it comes to the signatures and it gives me an error.
I run windows 7
I went and tried this, connected sd card to Computer with adapter and transferred stock rom rooted and renamed it to sdcard.zip
booted Evo to bootloader and chose recovery.
I as usual got the black background with EVO Icon and red triangle with exclamation mark.
There I click on hold Volume Up and Power until I get the following error:
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I click volume up and the following title and menu appear:
Android system recovery <2e>
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
When I choose the sdcard:update option the following message is displayed
----Install from Sdcard ------
Finding Update package
Opening update package
verifying update package
E:signature verification failed
instalation aborted
After, I downloaded tha froyo 2.2 file and placed it on the sd and rename it to update.zip
and when I ran Update.zip from bootloader it ran half way but then stopped saying the following error
failed to verify whole-file signature
So now I load any PC36IMG and I get NO QUESTION to update just puts me onto the bootloader screen….
Not bricked, just stuck. Download stock ruu, plug phone into computer and install. Or put pc136.img on rot of sd, boot into fast boot, it should install automatically. If none of the above, go to a sprint store, tell them it won't boot and you don't know why, and they will flash or replace.
Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk
What I would do from here if I were you is put that sd card back in the computer and erase everything on it.
while your at it shut down the phone. Hold down the volume down button and press power. When that comes up post what version of Hboot you have please.
And I'll be better able to help out.
WOw
did you try to reinstall another ROM?
if you still see the RECOVERY menu item, go there and then go where it says update from zip on sdcard. then using up/down buttons highlight the .zip file of the ROM then push the power button to make it run.
this hoping you got a ROM on your sdcard. if not just get one at the forum and download.
i got clockworkmod but im sure the other recovery tools have similar options.
@ adelaney Stock Ruu begins to update and gives me an error when signatures are being installed. I tried three Stock ROMS
RUU_Supersonic_1.32.651.1_Radio_1.39.00.04.26_release_171253
RUU_Supersonic_1.32.651.6_Radio_1.39.00.05.31_release_171253_signed
RUU_Supersonic_1.47.651.1_Radio_2.05.00.06.10_release_CL195459
@ rjmjr69
Hboot information is:
SUPERSONIC EVT2-3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.79.0000
MICROP-041F
TOUCH PANEL-ATMWLC03_16ac
RADIO-1.39.00.04.26
@mogul420
Recovery gives me an error
E:Can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I click volume up and the following title and menu appear:
Android system recovery <2e>
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
When I choose the sdcard:update option the following message is displayed
----Install from Sdcard ------
Finding Update package
Opening update package
verifying update package
E:signature verification failed
instalation aborted
Ok here's the deal. If you have nan unlock, fully rooted then you should have a nandroid back. If you do then boot into recovery and no a nandroid restore. This should boot you to one of your pervious backup/ system state.
Please note.
If you are fully rooted u should always do a nandroid backup before you flash any update, that way u can do a restore in the even something goes wrong.
http://WWW.rootznculture.com
Thank you for the information but it was a step I did not do... The tutorial that I went with did not speak about that when I rooted my phone...
EDIT: I even tried mixing files that I have downloaded with various PC36IM.zip and nothing triggers the update question.
Would they be able to notice if its rooted?
adelaney said:
Not bricked, just stuck. Download stock ruu, plug phone into computer and install. Or put pc136.img on rot of sd, boot into fast boot, it should install automatically. If none of the above, go to a sprint store, tell them it won't boot and you don't know why, and they will flash or replace.
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Most likely NOT bricked if it boots!
Sounds like you re-applied root but glitched somewhere?
Try root again - may still work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
Another helpful post
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=123714
What version is your hboot - press power and volume down WITHOUT pc36img.zip, update, etc on your sd - i.e. rename it or remove it, i.e. with adb or sd card slot on pc.... See if you can still access recovery?
I've been hammering on these things for a bit and if I can get into the boot screen, it's pretty much good to go...
Hboot-0.79.0000
Also the error that began all of this was running the wrong PC36IMG to begin with... I had 1.4 radio and I think that the one I used had the 1.3 radio so the only thing that helped me boot up again was that 1,2,3 step flashing so I thought that I had to take the second step and that placed in on booter, I have not been able to boot again ever since.... That was yesterday been trying for about 9 hours lol
lwarranty said:
sounds like you re-applied root but glitched somewhere?
Try root again - may still work?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=706411
another helpful post
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=123714
what version is your hboot - press power and volume down without pc36img.zip, update, etc on your sd - i.e. Rename it or remove it, i.e. With adb or sd card slot on pc.... See if you can still access recovery?
I've been hammering on these things for a bit and if i can get into the boot screen, it's pretty much good to go...
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Yes your just not rooted anymore. Run whatever process worked for you the first time
Try whitslack's method.
EDIT: Nevermind, no can do.
What happens is that my phone DOES read the PC36IMG.zip but it does not give me update option as it used to before. Any suggestions?
rjmjr69 said:
Yes your just not rooted anymore. Run whatever process worked for you the first time
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xx1479 said:
Try whitslack's method.
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latinsbest said:
What happens is that my phone DOES read the PC36IMG.zip but it does not give me update option as it used to before. Any suggestions?
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Like he said
Make sure you delete all the files off your sdcard first
Do you have a link? I made a quick search and could not find a direct link...
xx1479 said:
Try whitslack's method.
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I have several times even formatted (fat32) various times too
rjmjr69 said:
Like he said
Make sure you delete all the files off your sdcard first
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latinsbest said:
I have several times even formatted (fat32) various times too
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Reroot your phone using toast method! That is all! If you are on 1.47 then use simple root!
Seems you have un-rooted the boot me thinks but also read something about mixing radio's causing grief, someone more in the know could answer that... If you can get to hboot usb and try the RUU from your PC? Sometimes taking the battery out and restarting, if communication fails, try it again, rebooting the pc, hell I have no procedure, I just hammer till it makes sense, however 9 hours - holy crap, I'd be foaming at the face!
Ok will do right away and post update
novanosis85 said:
Reroot your phone using toast method! That is all! If you are on 1.47 then use simple root!
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I have done that via PC and the only thing that works with that are the stock roms since they come in EXE they manage to reboot my phone and everything but when the update gets to the signature part it says it fails in the signatures and aborts... any other custom roms that have EXE?
lwarranty said:
Seems you have un-rooted the boot me thinks but also read something about mixing radio's causing grief, someone more in the know could answer that... If you can get to hboot usb and try the RUU from your PC? Sometimes taking the battery out and restarting, if communication fails, try it again, rebooting the pc, hell I have no procedure, I just hammer till it makes sense, however 9 hours - holy crap, I'd be foaming at the face!
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[Q] system update after root. still have root, but apps FC all the ____ time

My goal is it reroot and/or flash a ROM so that I don’t have dumb apps open in the background, no or not many FCs (force close) and still be able to make a WiFi hotspot.
so, I mistakenly hit the system update button once on my unrEVOked3 dinc. the first time not much happened. i would get some FCs, but I thought it was the apps’ fault. The SECOND time I pressed it i did it on purpose, (lots of FCs before) and got even more FCs, I tried doing the factory reset through my phone normally, didn’t work. I tried unrEVOked3, sometimes it would ask if my thing is too new other times it wouldn’t recognize when I plug it in.
when i try unrEVOked forever I get lost after I download the file. I tried renaming it update.zip and placing in the root of my micro SD card. I tried just placing it there. I can get into the clockwork mod in revovery mode, then i select the update.zip option, hit the power button to select it and the screen goes black. i hit the power button once more and the phone pretends that I hit the power button to turn off the screen. I have tried letting it set for a couple minutes before taking the battery out... since then (last night) i read (on xda) that i should give it half an hour then reassess and that i am lucky I didn’t brick it. i can’t open many apps right now, but THANKFULLY open garden still works so I can type this... (it has some error about a log file, but who cares)
I searched here for “system update after root” and didn’t find anything relevant. most people lost root. and the person with the defy didn’t want to root again...
for the most part I know nothing about which ROM would be “best” for me, but I was thinking about In-Sensitive Minimalist or Condemned SupraROM
I am normally pretty good with this type of thing, but I can’t seem to get it to go. I did do a search here, but only found this issue for the desire and people who lost their root...
info about my phone
android version 2.2
baseband version 2.15.00.07.28
kernel version 2.6.32.17-g9a2fc16 [email protected] #1
build number 3.26.605.1 cl264707 release-keys
Software number 3.26.605.1
brower version webkit 3.1
PRI version 1.70_002
PRL version 52642
ERI version 5
I have verizon and I am in the U.S.A.
I was able to get the unrEVOked splash screen on it!-)
Thanks for your time,
Stephen
P.S. is it bad that it is trying to update Flash player 11 twice? If I cancel one they both cancel, but they can download the update at different rates...
P.P.S root browser and current widget work. apps that FC right after opening: TeslaLED, adcanded task killer (runs in background but when i pull it down and select it it FCs) life is crime, GPS status opens 90% then FCs...
You say you have root access but do you have s-off? Could you check by removing your battery then holding "power button and volume down"? Your s-off or s-on status is displayed at the top left of the screen.
Also when choosing to install any file in recovery, you must press the optical button to select options NOT the power button.
it says s-off
thanks for the quick reply. i figured it was something simple. i will try the optical button now...
I tried update.zip using the optical button. it said E: can't open update.zip beacuse it doesn't exist. i am guessing i didn't put it in the right root directory.
unrEVOked says to join IRC for support if possible. i'll give this a go...
No problem, post back if you have any issues after you wipe data then flash a rom.
I wiped the cache 2x and ran update.zip. the most apps still FC on me.
so the next step is to download some ROM and rename it update.zip or do the option for install from zip?
It is almost bed time for me my shift starts REAL early tomorrow...
This may be something you want to postpone until after work because you want to leave room to troubleshoot any issues that arise. Trust me, someone can help you with this at any time. That said, What exactly are you attempting to install? Before flashing a rom, could you also check your hboot version which is located underneath your s-off status? This matters because you will receive errors when installing gingerbread or higher based roms (2.3+) if your hboot version is not up to date. Froyo roms (2.2) may not cause issues.
If you want to install roms, do this:
▪ Copy ROM to root of the SDCARD
▪ Boot into recovery
▪ Select "Wipe Data/Factory Reset"
▪ Format system in mounts
▪ Install it using "Install Zip From SD" Card option
▪ Boot - NOTE: Be patient on first boot since it may sit for a few minutes
Do not bother with renaming the zip file of the rom cuz that is an unnecessary step. Also, to reinstall your apps you should re-download them from the Android Market once the rom settles.
so far i have only tired to install unrEVOked forever and normal apps from the market...
HBOOT-0.92.0000
I have only done the wipe cache partition and apply update.zip
so far i have redownloaded apps from the market. the only one that i tried and doesn't have any issues is currentwidget and root browser
Aight, that is perfect. As long as you feel comfortable to flash a rom then go for it!
First make a nandroid backup by going into Recovery and selecting "Backup and Restore," select "Backup, " then once it's finished backing up your rom install the rom using the directions in my last post. Also, ensure that you have any and all of your contacts backed up to (preferably) Gmail but at least to Verizon Backup Assistant. This will save you from a major headache.
I haven't had steady 3g to download a ROM yet. I get to 30-something percent and then it gets "interrupted" and can't resume. I will be home in the after i deliver in the morning, so i should be able to finish then...
thanks for all the advice. now i will try it on my viewsonic g-tablet now that i know that it isn't too difficult. (once one knows what one is doing at least)
Hello world.
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[Q] HELP!!!!

Hello to All!
I'm new to the site and I hope that one of the local genius' can help me out.
I'm having a problem on my Original HTC Evo 4G - Getting the message: "SORRY. The application HTC Sense (proccess com.htc.launcher) has stopped unexpectedly",
In a constant loop.
History - I terminated my sprint service about two years ago. While with Sprint, I rooted my phone and it worked fine in the rooted condition. After leaving Sprint, the phone sat unused until now.
A few weeks ago I decided to renew service with Straight Talk. We had problems getting the servers to recognize my phone. After several failed attempts, we did a hard reset going back to the factory settings. That's when the launcher problems started (not sure if the phone tried to do an OTA upgrade during this process).
I started getting the message, "the application HTC Sense(process com.htc.launcher) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again." Touching the "Force Close" button does nothing, just an endless loop. Also occasionally get "Sorry, com.android.phone has stopped working.
I have tried the following to no avail:- Taking the battery out - anywhere from 10 minutes to 2 hours - and after removing the battery holding the power button down for 10 or so seconds.
wipe data/factory settings
Wiping the Cache
Wiping the Dalvik cache
BASIC FACTS:
The phone is still rooted.
When I press the PWR AND VOLUME DOWN buttons I get the following on a WHITE SCREEN:
SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-2.82.0000
MICROP-041f
TOUCH PANEL - ATMELC03_16ac
RADIO - 2.15.00.09.01
OCT 14 2010,19:14:47
HBOOT USB PLUG
<VOLUME UP> to previous item
<VOLUME DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
FASTBOOT
RECOVERY
SIMLOCK
HBOOT USB
1. I think that there is a software problem causing the HTC Sense app to loop - FORCE RESTART DOES NOTHING.
2. There is a USB driver/connection problem that is causing the phone not to be seen by the Windows 7 DEVICE MANAGER - No Android in OTHER DEVICES.
3. I can't get into the applications screen
4. The phone is not responding (SORRY - process com.android.phone is not responding).
I went to the HTC site which was useless.
When I hooked the phone to my computer and started HTC Sync it said "No Device Connected".
None of this has stopped the com.htc.launcher looping at startup.
Cannot access the Home, Phone, search keys. I had read that by accessing search during the loop, one could then access HTC Sense and wipe that cache to fix the problem.
What I'd like to do is get access to the phone and add a new Launcher.
Are the any tools that will allow me to access the phone?
Does anyone have specific suggestions knowing that the phone is in a constant loop cycle and that there is no access to any of the keys.
I'm not taking a "shoot at anything that moves" solution to the problem and would sincerely appreciate any thoughts as to what a good approach might be. Thanks in advance for any helpful suggestions.
D
I didn't see any mention of it, but have you tried flashing another ROM? If not, I suggest flashing the one in the link below. Download, put the file on your SD card, boot into recovery and do a full system wipe. Flash the ROM, then reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671395
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Hi, well seeing how your rooted, u should have no problem flashing a stock Rom from recovery,
First when you hold volume down and power and you get into the bootloader use the volume keys to choose recovery, hit power button, does the phone boot to a custom recovery like clockwork or smelkus .
If so good.
Then just put your sd card in a micro sd card reader adapter and use it in your pc, then just put a stock Rom zip file on it,
Put your sd card back in the phone and boot in to bootloader again choose recovery, in recovery wipe everything except sd card, and system. Then choose install zip from sd card and u should be good.
If you don't have recovery then you need to put one on the root of your sd card and boot into bootloader again and choose yes when it ask to update. Then go back to what I said.
Do a search for recovery zip files I would use smelks
---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:27 PM ----------
Also do a search for HTC drivers for windows, 7 should be able to find them easy, that way u can just use adb and just try to push HTC launcher to system/app and do adb reboot that can solve your launcher problem, providing its stock Rom on your phone, if not just flash stock rom
I finally eliminated the [email protected]#$ing loop - i'm in!!!!!!!!
FinZ28 said:
I didn't see any mention of it, but have you tried flashing another ROM? If not, I suggest flashing the one in the link below. Download, put the file on your SD card, boot into recovery and do a full system wipe. Flash the ROM, then reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671395
Sent from my EVO LTE
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FINZ28, Thanks for the response. You brought up the point that I was going to attack next. Again, Thanks. I'll have a question in a minute. I solved my problem as follows:
As I suspected, the problem was software/OS related
I believe that the problem started when StraightTalk tech support had me do a hard reset and wipe the SD card
This wiped the file PC36DIAG.ZIP AND ALL OF THE ASSOCIATED FILES installed during extraction when I initially rooted
I think that dependencies between the rooted system and the HTC apps were broken at this point which caused the looping and the USB/driver issues
I feel like a DUMMY for not seeing this much earlier, but when I went into HBOOT and saw
Loading PC36DIAG.zip
No Image
Loading PC36DIAG.nhh
No Image or Wrong Image
Loading PC36DIAG.zip
No Image
Loading PC36DIAG.nhh
No Image or Wrong Image​during the booting process, I should have know that these files were missing, but the above was only on the screen for a very short time and the print is microscopic.
I found the EVO 4G PC36img.zip file
I rebooted and selected the DISC FILE option
I was then able to see the SD card from my PC, and I copied the zip file to my SD card
I rebooted to HBOOT and chose the RECOVERY option.
I CHOSE "INSTALL ZIP FROM SD CARD"
Next I chose "CHOOSE ZIP FROM SD CARD"
I then selected "EVO 4G pc36IMG.ZIP" AND THE INSTALLATION PROCEEDED
I then chose the REBOOT SYSTEM option and my screen came up as it should
​I now have access to all of my apps and settings
I want to bring tthe phone firmware up to date and I read elsewhere on the site that I should not accept OTA's or RUU's from Sprint lest I lose rooting capability FOREVER!
What the best course of action for me now? Should I flash the ROM you're recommending? Is there a newer ROM? What do you recommend as a replacement for HTC Sense?
Again, thanks for responding.
Flash the ROM I linked you to. It's a stock rooted ROM based off the latest OTA from Sprint. As far as the info regarding the text output in HBOOT, that's normal and shouldn't be confused with an error unless you actually are trying to install a PC36IMG.zip file on your phone (like you would when installing a recovery or updating firmware).
If you're interested in updating your firmware, check out the thread in the link below:
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php?8477-Radio-Update-2-15-00-01-15-2-16-13
Sent from my EVO LTE
Thanks
FinZ28 said:
Flash the ROM I linked you to. It's a stock rooted ROM based off the latest OTA from Sprint. As far as the info regarding the text output in HBOOT, that's normal and shouldn't be confused with an error unless you actually are trying to install a PC36IMG.zip file on your phone (like you would when installing a recovery or updating firmware).
Sent from my EVO LTE
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Thanks Fin. I'll do it.
Any thoughts on a replacement for HTC Sense?
dmking99 said:
Thanks Fin. I'll do it.
Any thoughts on a replacement for HTC Sense?
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You can go the AOSP route
Keep in mind that Sense is a user interface (UI). You can download a replacement launcher like ADW or Launcher Pro, but this really only replaces your home screen and Sense is still there. With AOSP (for example, CyanogenMod) you get the pure Android experience without things like HTC Sense getting in the way.
Sent from my EVO LTE
No Longer Have SU Capability
FinZ28 said:
I didn't see any mention of it, but have you tried flashing another ROM? If not, I suggest flashing the one in the link below. Download, put the file on your SD card, boot into recovery and do a full system wipe. Flash the ROM, then reboot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671395
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I flashed the recommended ROM. When I checked the Root status, it looks like I have lost SU capability and so it looks like NOW I'm "partially rooted" (BOOTLOADER - Supersonic EVT3 SHIP S-OFF)
Did System Wipe and reflashed back to the UnrEVOked3 ROM. Ran the following apps and still do not have SU capability.
ROOTCHECKER: "Sorry Device does not have proper root access"
SUPERUSER: SU Binary not found
Titanium Backup: Root Access Failed
In the Terminal Emulator: Cursor is $ and not #.
Any Ideas as to how to get SU capability back?
Can't run ADB because Device Manager does not see the device Via the USB cable.
TIA
Got it Working
dmking99 said:
I flashed the recommended ROM. When I checked the Root status, it looks like I have lost SU capability and so it looks like NOW I'm "partially rooted" (BOOTLOADER - Supersonic EVT3 SHIP S-OFF)
Did System Wipe and reflashed back to the UnrEVOked3 ROM. Ran the following apps and still do not have SU capability.
ROOTCHECKER: "Sorry Device does not have proper root access"
SUPERUSER: SU Binary not found
Titanium Backup: Root Access Failed
In the Terminal Emulator: Cursor is $ and not #.
Any Ideas as to how to get SU capability back?
Can't run ADB because Device Manager does not see the device Via the USB cable.
TIA
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Looks like everything works now - Rooted, SU status OK, Radio updated, ROM Updated...
I am confused as to why Device Manager shows "Android Phone -->Android Composite ADB Interface" When I updated the driver with the Android USB Driver.
Also, my BOOTLOADER shows HBOOT - 2.02.0000. If I wanted to get a more recent bootloader, wwhere do i get it and how do i update it? Is this necessary or am I OK as is?
TIA
You're fine with the bootloader you have. No need to upgrade it. Also, regarding your previous post regarding having "partial root". There is no such thing. S-off and root are not dependant upon one another. You either have root access or you don't.
Sent from my EVO LTE
Everything Works Perfectly
FinZ28 said:
You're fine with the bootloader you have. No need to upgrade it. Also, regarding your previous post regarding having "partial root". There is no such thing. S-off and root are not dependant upon one another. You either have root access or you don't.
Sent from my EVO LTE
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Fin,
My sincere thanks for all or you time and help. The phone works perfectly.
I'm planning on getting a Nexus or Galaxy and a tablet in the fall and wanted to practice getting the device to do what I want, so this was a valuable exercise.
The Evo is practically brand new, but it's dated and I don't know how much longer it'll be getting support. It's a great phone and I like it a lot so, I'll keep it as a backup.
I'm pretty easy on my equipment so I expect it to last a long time. As I said, it's like new.
Once again many, many thanks.
Dennis
Glad to be of help:thumbup:
Sent from my EVO LTE

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