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Programming ... Whats Best???

Hi!
I'm a Programmer for Visial Basic and Delphi...
I'm not sure whitch system is the best 4 programming the XDA?
AppForge or what?
Thanx
Stevie

Each have their advantages. I would go with Embedded C++ every time, but then, I'm that kind of guy. I like lean code.

On the other hand... If you don't want to learn C++, give Embedded VB a try.

Programming
Hi!
Thanx, but U mean Visual C++ 6.0 ??? Is there anything other what I need with C++ like Appforge 4 VB? Or do I need nothing more?
Stevie

No.. I mean Embedded C++. It is available for free from microsoft
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads...=/msdn-files/027/001/963/msdncompositedoc.xml

>I'm not sure whitch system is the best 4 programming the XDA?
>AppForge or what?
I guess it depends on your definition of "best".
I do C++, but actually prefer Visual Basic for most
applications due to the development speed for GUI-based
stuff.
I've downloaded eMbedded Visual Basic and eMbedded C++ from
Microsoft. One problem: EVB apparently does *not* yet
support the XDA architecture (StrongARM).
The SmartPhone SDK from MS *does* support StrongARM (not
*specifically the XDA* that I can tell) but only provides the SDK
for eMbedded C++ (not EVB).
I EMAILed the MobileVB folk and they said:
1) They don't support SmartPhones.
2) They don't have any support for SMS handling.
At this point I guess I'll go to EVC++ unless I can find other
tool(sets) to use.
What *I* would like to see is script support ALA PERL or PYTHON.
Is there anyone out there that knows of a beastie like this?
Or, even better (for me) would be LINUX on the XDA (I've
been using Familiar distro on the iPAQ, and it is great .. can
do GPRS/GPS from a LINUX-based platform (C/C++/JAVA/PERL/PYTHON/whatever).
Charlie

You keep mentioning Smartphone here, and the Smartphone SDK. The XDA does not support the Smartphone SDK, as it is not a Smartphone - it runs Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition - something completely different.
So please, don't spend several hours downloading the Smartphone SDK to find it's not the right one. Download the Pocket PC 2002 SDK. I have developed several apps for the XDA using this already.

What *I* would like to see is script support ALA PERL or PYTHON.
Is there anyone out there that knows of a beastie like this?
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There is a PocketPC Python, you have to use the win32api to GUI work, and installation can be a little painful depending on what you need. It does run and is stable though. Check out http://www.murkworks.com/Research/Python/PythonCE/PythonCEWiki/FrontPage[/quote]

Hi guys
I downloaded eMbedded Visual Tools 3.0 from Microsoft, but during installation, I was asked for the Product ID #
Any help ? :?:

I'd like to throw in another suggestion: the .Net Compact Framework. If you're a Delphi programmer (as are we - I used to be on TeamB for Delphi), you'll take to it straight away. After all, .Net and C# was designed by the same Anders Hejlsberg that designed Delphi. C# is very like Object Pascal with a C/Java syntax, but with even more goodies.
We've been using the Compact Framework beta for several months and it is quite simply superb. It was just launched officially on April 26th as part of Visual Studio.Net 2003. However, you don't need to buy Visual Studio - just download the .Net 1.1 SDK from Microsoft - it's free.
It's just a subset of the full .Net Framework, but if you need to do something that's not supported directly in the Framework classes, you can easily call API functions - or even write some code in embedded VC++ and call that. The managed environment is just great.
MikeS.

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Khang Le
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Khang Le, thanks

How to start programming apps for WM Smartphones

Hi, I'm an experienced developer (C,C++,C#,Delphi,Java) and I did some stuff with XNA Studio with Visual Studio Express 2008.
What exactly do I need to start developing apps/games for windows mobile smartphones?
Sorry I tried the search but I'm not able to find anything useful, maybe I used the wrong keywords.

Decide what to use! For Windows Mobile you can use C/C++, .Net ( "Compact Framework" ), FreePascal (as you mention Delphi - this is my own favorite), I think there is even a VB for WM.
For C/C++ you will need to get the Windows Mobile SDK, this is available from Microsoft. API is very much like "slimmed down" Win32 API. For .Net, Google "Compact Framework", or ".Net CF SDK" or something similar.
I am not completely sure, but I think you will need commercial version of Visual Studio. As I recall, "express" / free version does not support WinCE / WM compilation (this is probably why you did not find the option to compile for Windows Mobile)
Good luck!

Thanks! I have both Visual Studio 2008 (non express too) and Rad Studio 2009 (delphi 2009) ...
As I want to get into game development, I'd like to have access to the full power of the phone Using Visual Studio with the SDK might be better, because as I've read it comes with a WM6 emulator...
Any ideas on where I can find tutorials, to display graphics on the phone?

I program using VS08 and the SDK with VB. Not doing anything fancy at the moment, but it does come with an emulator. I haven't figured out how to actually deply it on to the device yet tho.

When you deploy or debug the application it should usually give the option to deploy to a device or emulator. The device of course needs to be connected to ActiveSync.
Also theres a port of QT to Windows Mobile, which seems to work but far more tricky to set up and get working that just using .NET CF it seems

How can I Make programs for Windows Mobile?

Hello
I want to make a program for Pocket PC What is the developmental environment to do so?

Most of the Visual 2007 Series by Microsoft are compatible with Windows Mobile 6.0 and up.
Example: Visual Basic.NET, Visual C#, etc..

Agent Zach said:
Most of the Visual 2007 Series by Microsoft are compatible with Windows Mobile 6.0 and up.
Example: Visual Basic.NET, Visual C#, etc..
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Thank you
but Visual 2007 Ready to work without the need to add anything , or not ?
I want to do I program for Hd2
Do you have to learn it?
Thank you again

Depending on what you're planning to create, or make mods for, you may need certain SDK Libraries.
But honestly, I won't be able to help you much with these. I develop Software for Windows, not Windows Mobile [BIG differences].

Agent Zach said:
Depending on what you're planning to create, or make mods for, you may need certain SDK Libraries.
But honestly, I won't be able to help you much with these. I develop Software for Windows, not Windows Mobile [BIG differences].
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ok
thanks Agent Zach

Is there someone who can help me?

Start here :
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Development Tools
The link at the bottom takes you to a pile of other stuff.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Complete list of Development links and resources

stephj : Thank you

Depending on which programming language you prefer.
Basic,C,C++,C#,Pascal?
You could choose Basic4PPC or Lazarus or some native MS stuff.
I am using actually old embedded Visual C++ 4.0 SP3 with PocketPC 2003 SDK and everything works also on WM653. In addition I use WM 6.1 emulator,but it is not necessary.

you could do worse than go to www.ppl-lang.com
Pocket programming language is an easy to learnn WM5/6/6.1/6.5 compiler that can create windowed apps and games.
V1.60 is completely free or you can purchase V2 with loads of extra libraries for in game physics, databases etc. It also compiles Windows apps too.
I have been using this for the last 3 years almost and have created many fine windows mobile apps.
Check it out.

I want to become a Windows Phone 7 developer!

Hi all!
I decided I want to start developing apps for Windows Phone, and want some pointers. I already know visual basic and java, the latter of which was handy on creating a few apps on android. I 'm quite experienced when it comes to linux, and I'm also good with hardware. That's my backround. Now I've set my eyes on Windows Phone 7 and I want to take it up seriously. So where should I begin, what tools should I use, and is there a guide, possibly? I'm a fast learner, and very eager to begin!
Thanks in advance!

I posted a lot of links in the following thread (3rd message)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1387900
Hope it helps, and good luck with whatever you write.
Ian

Thanks Ian! I'm gonna get started right away!

First of all you have to learn C# it's easy language and very similar to Java. Later you have to read sth about .net Framework. To write a application you have to download free Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone.
Good luck and have fun

You can use VB language too. So you should be good. No need to learn c#. But But you should, I love c#.
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To be open, C# == java (true) extra features and more functions

Hextor_PL said:
First of all you have to learn C# it's easy language and very similar to Java. Later you have to read sth about .net Framework. To write a application you have to download free Visual Studio 2010 Express for Windows Phone.
Good luck and have fun
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Is it necessary to have VS 2010 Express installed? Or is the VS for Windows Phone enough?
Damn..I have VS 2010 Express installed, and I just cannot uninstall it completely. Now, SDk 7.1 cannot be installed due to missing components.
Note: I uninstalled VS 2010 as it had that bug wherein you cannot start a new project. "Registry error"

not necessary. but it's must have one.

I think you need the full paid for version of Visual Studio in order to use VB coding on WP7 but if you already have that then it's all good!

comeradealexi said:
I think you need the full paid for version of Visual Studio in order to use VB coding on WP7 but if you already have that then it's all good!
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ans sometime you don't need to buy, if your country doesn't has laws like us

Thanks，your ansowers is useful for me too.(poor english)

[Q] Which Visual Studios should be used for compiling for Windows RT?

Hello,
I've been following xda and using a lot of the already compiled Windows RT apps for a little while now. I've decided I'd like to try my hand at compiling a few especially getting libFFI fully functional with Python on ARM. The only problem is when I try to follow no2chem's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820. I can't find a version of Visual Studios that has the ARM cross compilers. I base this on the fact that my install doesn't have "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 12.0\VC\bin\x86_ARM" nor "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\V120\Platforms\ARM" exist after installation. I've tried both digging up Visual Studio 2012 Express and trying the new Visual Studios 2013 Express (Windows Desktop versions)
Would anyone be kind enough to provide me a link to the proper Visual studios to use? I hope I don't need a MSDN subscription to get the proper beta or developer preview.
Thank you so very much. I really am grateful for all the wonderful things you people have done for Windows RT. It really makes the RT so much more useful.
Bridgeofstraws

bridgeofstraws said:
Hello,
I've been following xda and using a lot of the already compiled Windows RT apps for a little while now. I've decided I'd like to try my hand at compiling a few especially getting libFFI fully functional with Python on ARM. The only problem is when I try to follow no2chem's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096820. I can't find a version of Visual Studios that has the ARM cross compilers. I base this on the fact that my install doesn't have "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 12.0\VC\bin\x86_ARM" nor "C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\V120\Platforms\ARM" exist after installation. I've tried both digging up Visual Studio 2012 Express and trying the new Visual Studios 2013 Express (Windows Desktop versions)
Would anyone be kind enough to provide me a link to the proper Visual studios to use? I hope I don't need a MSDN subscription to get the proper beta or developer preview.
Thank you so very much. I really am grateful for all the wonderful things you people have done for Windows RT. It really makes the RT so much more useful.
Bridgeofstraws
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I don't know for certain, but I would wager that the Express editions do not have the required binaries or libraries. I use Visual Studio 2012 Premium to do my RT cross-compiles. Full VS is definitely expensive, but you can use VS 2012 or VS 2013 on a trial basis for 30 or 60 days for free.

The last time I built something, as I recall, I had both the version for Windows Desktop and for Modern apps installed - the one for Modern apps has the ARM compilers and configuration included with it (since it's for building Windows Store apps, which if they target ARM and include native code, need those compilers). I don't recall the order I installed them, though I think it was Modern and then Desktop.

Thank you acrossland and irony_delerium!
It seems it is as simple as installing both VS2012 Express for Windows Desktop (http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=34673) and VS2012 Express for Win8 (http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=30664). I haven't looked into VS2013 because I develop on Win7 and VS2013 doesn't seem to work on Win7.

VS2012/VS2013 Professional will work.