Hey mods, I was thinking of an idea, where on each ROM there is a graph depicting scores of speed, battery life, general usability etc. These scores could be determined from votes by the community. I think it would help the community out and also give the ROM a more pro look.
Wouldn´t it be cool if there´s an app going to be released, some sort of juiceplotter, installed on the clean rom, which then has to be kept running for an hour or something, for battery use checking, so the scores would be objective?
The rest is just a specsheet.
Even subjective assessment of various roms performance and battery life could be useful provided a large enough sample that should eliminate outliers for the most part.
Usability is too subjective. You either like Sense or you don't care for it.
Setcpu, havs, 720p support etc are important to some people and not others.
I world support some spreadsheet that would allow to get a quick overview of a rom, as compared to others, without having to read all the forums. Perhaps, this could be as simple as a table in a sticky post in this forum.
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I've flashed every Rom many times over the past couple weeks (it's my hobby,ok?) and taken notes.
And there's not much doubt at this point that although aesthetically the Black roms are by far #1 with me.
and Stability seems fairly equal amongst the 3 I've boiled it down to.......
But I have to say that in terms of UI speed, (and general percieved responsiveness),
LVSW's and Dutty's latest are (equally, btw) the front runners for some reason.
This is using the same (minimal) apps superimposed, and regardless of the 'storage vs speed' configurations I've uniformally applied.
Regardless, they're all a pleasure to run and am gratefull for the opportunity to utilize them.
rockky said:
I've flashed every Rom many times over the past couple weeks (it's my hobby,ok?) and taken notes.
And there's not much doubt at this point that although aesthetically the Black roms are by far #1 with me.
and Stability seems fairly equal amongst the 3 I've boiled it down to.......
But I have to say that in terms of UI speed, (and general percieved responsiveness),
LVSW's and Dutty's latest are (equally, btw) the front runners for some reason.
This is using the same (minimal) apps superimposed, and regardless of the 'storage vs speed' configurations I've uniformally applied.
Regardless, they're all a pleasure to run and am gratefull for the opportunity to utilize them.
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Can you list the versions of each rom you are talking about.
I have Black 3.01 installed...It is by far the fastest ROM so far.
the latest:
Dutty's premiem and LVSW new build full version.
I've gone back and forth and am fairly confident of my speed conclusion.
Check out either..app to app system tab to system tab changes were fairly instantaneous.... compared to the relative lag on Black 3..which I have now. But other stuff I like/need on Black'l likely have me stay here.
If you need concrete benchmarks rather than a "seat of your pants" feel then use SKToolks benchmark utility.
yes, I do need to download that....and I know someone posted benchmark comparisons with the differences insignificant.......but my perceptions unfortunately don't cuncur...not sure why.
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If you need concrete benchmarks rather than a "seat of your pants" feel then use SKToolks benchmark utility.
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Not really accurate, my 1.3 was significantly faster then 1.2 imho but benchmarked lower on spb's benchmark app.
Yeah I got the feeling that Sktools wasn't consistant when I used it to benchmark my Blackjack when testing various different settings and tweaks...
I have recently tried to get involved with the testing of some of the froyo roms out there (namely DeFrost) and i can say that with the input of many many people and the hard work of the developers progress has been swift.
my concern is the feedback is sometimes fairly subjective, with everyone using different tools to test with or in most cases nothing more than an observation; "i feel this is slower than ver2.x"
People/the community if you like, will always have their own opinions and these are no doubt important issues the developers will want to address.
However I would like to see testing become more standardised as i believe this can only lead to increased accuracy of feedback and so greater and maybe more focused development.
Firstly i would like to start a discussion on the type of tools/apps available for testing purposes, and compile a definitive list of such apps.
And secondly develop a method of testing, and feedback.
Help from the community, testers and developers would be greatly appreciated.
I will start us off.
im currently using:-
Linpack for android and Quadrant for benchmarking (nomaly run them 10 times for an average score)
JuicePlotter for battery drain
System Monitor by skwid for CPU and RAM usage
Im looking for replacements for JuicePlotter as it doesn't give enough detail
and iv just started using System Monitor but first impressions are not great.
I just got my droid incredible and I rooted it as soon as I got it. I've tried almost every rom in the "official rom" thread. I can't seem to figure out which one is the best for battery life. Right now I'm on myns 5.2. Any insight would help.
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I was using miui au 1.1.7 and had great battery life. Miui isn't for everyone though. I just installed the latest cm7 gb build so well see
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It really depends on the kernel that is flashed with the ROM as well, in general ROM's that are AOSP tend to have better battery life because all the Sense stuff that syncs constantly can drain your battery, but alot of devs have found ways around this by getting rid of the extra Sense junk.
But IMO switching kernels gives the biggest difference
Happy Flashing
it trully is in the kernal and somewhat dependant on the rom.. like dude said.. warm is a badass rom.. i think i'm still using warm rls4, forget which kernal.. but find a decent one and use a cpu tool to setup profiles to control your kernals speed and usage.. with the right settings you can squeez some juice out...
lou's senseless rom with his #4 kernel is awesome
Skyraider 3.5 for sense or I'm having great battery life with cm7 w/ stock launcher (doubt it makes a difference on battery life but might)
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Like others have said, it's mostly about what kernel you are using. Some kernels reduce the amount of voltage the CPU uses to save battery as well as underclocking it when its not in use to save even more battery. I've used Skyraider 3.5 with Incredikernel and it has given me the best battery life, and I've used quite a few different kernels.
If you choose an AOSP ROM (like cyanogenmod) try invisiblek's kernel.
Best battery life to date is my current setup, Senseless Redemptive Revolution with Lou's #6. I can get 24-26 hours with normal usage not watching what I do. Recently, I reinstalled Juice Defender, and as I have always been a skeptic of it, if it is set up correctly, I am seeing a very noticeable increase in battery with no real side effects. FYI.
For Me, it was Cyanogen 6.1 stable and invisbilek's #28 for the kernel, but play around with it and see what works best for you, now that you are rooted, you can add any rom and kernel that you want and find out what works best for you, rembember, everyone's phone and usage are different, what works for me may not be best for you.
Thread closed.
Reason: The reason we close what's referred to as "Best ROM Threads" is because the vast majority of the type end up a nasty flame fest. The reasons should be obvious. It's really a matter of opinion, and then you get the fanboys of certain devs chiming in, and well, you get it. You did nothing wrong (besides posting in the wrong sub-forum). My advice is try a few and make that choice yourself. It's easy to find the most popular ATM, because they stay on page 1 of the dev sub. That doesn't necessarily make it the best, however. Give some a shot and see what's best for you. Good luck.
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Hey guys,
Just thought I'd give back to the community here.
What do you get when you cross a ROM junkie, MS-Excel, and a guy with too much free time on his hands?
I'm hoping the attached spreadsheet helps (at least one person!) determine what type of Wildfire S custom ROM might best suit your needs.
I will start with a few disclaimers:
- First and foremost, thanks to ALL the chefs for cookin' us up these yummy ROMs. Lest you take some of my reviews as personal critiques of your work, know that I am grateful for all the time and effort you put into these things. I hope I speak on behalf of EVERYONE who's running a custom ROM right now.
- My benchmark tests are by no means exhaustive. There are better threads describing how it should properly be done (along with some actual ROM results). My "tests" were for my own personal interest. I ran (at least) two Antutu tests on the device and tried to keep the same test scenario for each ROM: I flashed the ROM; tweaked CPU settings such that CPU runs at 120-806Mhz under the Smartass governor with noop trigger (unless otherwise stated in the XLS); and then ran Antutu with the default "test all" test.
I realize that two test runs is not enough and probably not a true indicator of performance (but it IS better than nothing!) Basically, my benchmark scores served as a really rough guide for me, and I'm just sharing those results with you. Do with them what you will.
- Gaps: there are a few of them on my XLS. Let me explain.
* Quadrant - I read (somewhere on this forum) that Quadrant isn't as robust a benchmark tool as Antutu. So I stopped using it.
* Jikantaru XE - I tried to give this one a chance, I really did. But it kept freezing on me, especially after coming out of lock/sleep screen. Sorry, Jik. I know other ROMs use this kernel (successfully), so I'm not sure why this particular ROM didn't like my particular phone.
* MIUI - Never got a decent Antutu score (similar experience as CM7). Ran the test >5 times (for both MIUI and CM7) but gave up logging anything extra once I realized it was scoring consistently low. Expect similar results as CM7 (but with a touch more free space left over).
* All the rest of the gaps - Sorry. You get what you get. ;-)
If anyone finds this crap useful, then click that razzy-snazzy Thanks button, below!
If I see enough Thanks come in, that'll be my cue to release more of these XLS sheets as new ROMs come out.
Cheers,
- Anthony
New version of this coming out shortly.
(I've filled in Quadrant values across the board and went back to fill in more "gaps", especially for the MIUI ROM.)
- Anthony
Nicely done m8, thumbs up
Thank you, kindly.
There is already a similar thread at comparing roms, so you could use his antutu scores,the user d33ps1x made it i think. So you don't do the double work ... Which i guess you already did but anyway...
My table compares approximately 20 criteria (Antutu score being just one of them) across about a dozen ROMs. I have yet to see a similar chart.
Not only that, but I clearly state in Post #1 that my benchmark tests are by no means exhaustive (and I actually re-direct folks to find the proper thread, if that's what you're after).
- Anthony
Tigger31337 said:
My table compares approximately 20 criteria (Antutu score being just one of them) across about a dozen ROMs. I have yet to see a similar chart.
Not only that, but I clearly state in Post #1 that my benchmark tests are by no means exhaustive (and I actually re-direct folks to find the proper thread, if that's what you're after).
- Anthony
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I'm just helping you have a better result (which means more representative) by using your testings, plus his testings ... and get the middle ...
Added to index at general information.
Thx, for making this
Niiice, thnx man
would you prefer the m1ndh4x8r GB2.3.5 or cyanogenmod 7?
Mindhacker's ROM. I wouldn't buy an HTC Phone if I didn't want to use sense
No offense though, I love CM7 and the work put in. Just that I'm a fan of HTC Sense UI
I don't know about your "Final thoughts" on JxMatteo. I quite like the font and I missed it when I tried CM7.
I liked the Android bootup sound too, but I understand that some people can find it annoying.
Perhaps you should avoid including your opinion in the chart.
What about Chocolate & Coffee?!?!
Yummiest of 'em all!
*I'm not joking. Just check in the Dev section and you'll see it.
This is a nice overview. I was using CM7 so far, but I might try some other ROM now.
This has been one of the greatest helper thread...:good:
Do we have any updated thread on this topic??
I put ICS 4.0.4 MIUI 2.8.10 and I love it very much.
I have enough internal memory so I don't need INT2EXT like when I use Sense5.
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*If a good thread already exists about this, please link it.*
Hey Peeps!
I have probably tried all ROM's (Sense & Stock) on my aging M8, and the only ROM that comes with good battery life is ARHD. But, as we all know, it has its weaknesses.
Waiting for responses from you guys!
We do not compare ROM's that has the greatest etc. The best way to find it out is to try each ROM which fits you.
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There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
XDA changed their rules some time ago to allow comparison threads as long as they dont turn into a flame war. Please keep this thread civil and respect everyone opinion.
Thanks
Wolf
redpoint73 said:
There is no such thing as a ROM with "best battery life" that applies to everyone, in every situation. There are simply too many variable on how different folks use their phones (what apps, screen on time, etc.) your local reception, whether on LTE or 3g, WiFi, Bluetooth in use, etc. etc. etc.
Folks have very different experiences for each ROM. Seriously, I've seen some ROMs where I can get 2 days of light usage, where others on the same ROM will say battery life sucks and only lasts a few hours.
You need to use trial and error, and use what ROM works best for you. There are no shortcuts to that process.
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what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
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what type of effect does it exist on kernel with battery life?
what are the good & bad things of custom kernel? and also can kernel affect on radio?
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I'm not that knowledgeable about kernels, and in particular don't mess much with custom kernels.
But what I would say, is that those questions aren't any more answerable then the previous points about custom ROM vs. battery life. Overclocking and undervolting allowed by custom kernels, as well as the choice of governors (which provide various balances of performance versus power usage) will all have some affect on battery life. But the experience is going to vary greatly from one user to another.
Similar to trying custom ROMs, just make a TWRP backup before flashing anything; try some custom kernels, or tweaking kernel settings; and see if the results are desirable to you.
The only real "bad" thing about custom kernels, is that some settings may result in instability, boot loops or no boot. But as long as you make a TWRP backup (before flashing kernels or changing kernel settings), you can easily recover from any such problems.
You also may or may not get the performance or battery life you are looking for, from custom kernels. Which is the main reason I've not been one to personally mess with custom kernels too much. With what kernel tweaking I did on other devices, I never saw a significant performance difference. And certainly not enough to warrant the hassles of system crashes and no boots I was getting.
But others will swear by custom kernels, different governors, etc. Again, your results can and will vary. So that is why its best to try for yourself; and not take another's advice as gospel.
Viper rom is quite good.