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New Evo w/pre-installed update

I just got a new Evo that had the 2nd update pre-installed. Do I have to revert back to the original ROM before attempting to root?

Sorry dude, frankly put your screwed until they figure out a way to undo the lock that HTC put on it.
I did the OTA when I got home without thinking, and BAM, no root for me.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714255
Doesn't that link tell you how to down grade?

oOflyeyesOo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=714255
Doesn't that link tell you how to down grade?
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That thread makes the assumption of already being rooted, this person has the 1.47 OTA installed already, so at this point there does not seem to be a way to root it.
Someone posted a tweet from unrevoked in the thread dealing with this, saying the might have something no ETA though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7042722&postcount=148

I meant that I had the 2nd RUU, i.e. the one ending in .6, i do not have 1.47. Im trying to root using toast's method without downgrading to .1, ill let you know.

KyleMac said:
I meant that I had the 2nd RUU, i.e. the one ending in .6, i do not have 1.47. Im trying to root using toast's method without downgrading to .1, ill let you know.
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You should be fine with ending .6. I got my replacement today with .6 and I'm able to root Toast method without a problem. Enjoy!!!

Rooting issues...HELP!

OK, I also have a Moto Droid, and its MUCH easier to root those phones. But now I have a Evo 4G as well, and want to root it for what its worth.
Problem:
I follow Toasts guide to rooting (part 1) (sorry, cant post links yet)
I follow the steps exactly. Copy over the PC36IMG.zip file to the SD card, and boot into HBOOT. It scans the file like it should, then says "Main Version is older!, Update Fail!"
I cant get past this point no matter what I try.
HBOOT-0.79.0000
I have ADB set up and everything recognizes everything else just fine, but this is where I am getting stuck. Any ideas?

I think post #2 in toasts thread has new links to uncorrupted files. The pc36 zip should be 172mb on your had.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

chevycam94 said:
OK, I also have a Moto Droid, and its MUCH easier to root those phones. But now I have a Evo 4G as well, and want to root it for what its worth.
Problem:
I follow Toasts guide to rooting (part 1) (sorry, cant post links yet)
I follow the steps exactly. Copy over the PC36IMG.zip file to the SD card, and boot into HBOOT. It scans the file like it should, then says "Main Version is older!, Update Fail!"
I cant get past this point no matter what I try.
HBOOT-0.79.0000
I have ADB set up and everything recognizes everything else just fine, but this is where I am getting stuck. Any ideas?
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Dont think this is the right place for this, but it sounds like you have the newer software on your phone and need to follow the 1.47 rooting method.

Yeah, I have the new 1.47 software. I followed 3 different rooting methods that say they work with the new OTA release, which is what I have.

Belongs in Q&A.
You have the 1.47 update, so toasts method won't work, do some looking around before posting.

You have the newer bootloader, so you must use the newer root method.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Or you can try Simpleroot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565

Sirchuk said:
Belongs in Q&A.
You have the 1.47 update, so toasts method won't work, do some looking around before posting.
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I have done LOTS of looking around, searching posts, multiple sites, and I finally had to post about it. I spend more time on droidforums, so its a little different.

Step 4 of the SimpleRoot app, doesnt seem to work. It says Starting Part2, but never does anything. Does that part usually say that, or should it be doing something?

I can't get my Incredible to gain root

I got it all figured out thank you for your help

joeyfeffer said:
So I just got my Incredible today. Unboxed it and am trying to root.
I've been following the steps to the T on here http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_HTC_Incredible#Unrevoked_Method
But after pushing all the files it says to push and then doing the "chmod" stuff when I get to the step to do "/data/local/tmp/rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin" it just repeats the line then says "permission denied.
Then I just tried to continue and do the next step.
"chmod cd/data/local" then it just says "Bad mode"
I then still continue with the steps till I get to the last one
"./rageagainstthecage-arm5.bin" and again it just says "permission denied"
So after all this not working I did a factory reformat of the phone and tried again. Still same out come on everything. Then I tried the unrEVOked method and I the HBOOT drivers but the program just says "Failed to flash recovery image"
I have successfully installed AndroidSDK and I know this because I upgraded from the HTC Eris and I've rooted that. I have all the correct drivers (I think at least that stupid VZW media thing may be interfering)
So I just don't know what to do now and I just want to have my phone rooted and get CM6 on it. Any hellp would be greatly appreciated thank you.
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It sounds like your system has 2.2 preloaded on it. If that is the case, unrEVOked3 will not work. Also, since the phone is not S-OFF, the other steps you are attempting will not work. You will need to do one of two things.
1. Find unrEVOked 3.2 to root 2.2.
2. Revert the phone to 2.1 and set S-OFF and then root the phone.

dalepl said:
It sounds like your system has 2.2 preloaded on it. If that is the case, unrEVOked3 will not work. Also, since the phone is not S-OFF, the other steps you are attempting will not work. You will need to do one of two things.
1. Find unrEVOked 3.2 to root 2.2.
2. Revert the phone to 2.1 and set S-OFF and then root the phone.
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Oh and I forgot yeah its on 2.2 because its brand new just got it today. And the steps I was following on the CyanogenMod wiki were to downgrade my phone to 2.1 but thats where I was running into the problems listed below. And you can' get unrEVOked 3.2 until they release it again.

Just grab the latest unrevoked build from their IRC channel. You should be able to find the link easily and it should work to root your stock 2.2

joeyfeffer said:
Oh and I forgot yeah its on 2.2 because its brand new just got it today. And the steps I was following on the CyanogenMod wiki were to downgrade my phone to 2.1 but thats where I was running into the problems listed below. And you can' get unrEVOked 3.2 until they release it again.
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I got my DInc two days ago. It's rooted. Using unrevoked 3.2.... read their page a little closer. If you jump on their channel in IRC, you'll find a DL link at the top of the channel. Please read things a little more closely before creating unnecessary threads.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

[Q] Semi-bricked Desire.

Greetings all.
I just recently semi-bricked my Desire, I was uing 'Oxygen 2 RC2' and tried to partition my sdcard through 'AmonRA Recovery' and something went wrong and I ended up with a semi-bricked phone. I couldn't establish any connection with my SIM or SD-card.
I was tipped to install a original RUU which after a few tries worked and I recived a phone with the latest official Sense rom, HBOOT-0.93.0001 and S-ON of course.
After 'fastboot oem enableqxdm 0' is fastboot mode I atleast had connection with my SIM and SD-card and now a I have a semiworking but not rooted phone.
Now I want to root my phone and take back my USB-connectitvity but after reading this I understand that I need root for the USB-brick fix, to work but how do a get root with 'HBOOT-0.93'? Paul O'Brians root method only works for 'HBOOT 0.80' and lower and 'UnrEVOked' only works when having USB connection.
So how do I go about getting root and fixing my USB-Brick on my phone?
Thanks /ZeD

I have found a couple of "downgrade" tools but they haven't helped me much since everyone workd from within a fully booted system with a working USB-link which I have not.
Can a downgrade be done with a simple but old RUU file?

An old RUU file will not work.. I have the same problem, and got the same guide on how to fix it. But I sent it in for repair just hourse before, so I didnt have the chance to try it out. I unrooted my Desire as well with no luck. But as I read the guide, a rootet phone is not necessary?

For me it was, I had a another kind of fault at first my USB-brick happend when installing the ariginal RUU. What I should have done was to install a old RUU with 'HBOOT 0.80', root that and do the USB-brick fix, but I didn't know that I would get one ^^.

Blubba10 said:
a rootet phone is not necessary?
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From the first step in that guide .
1. Follow this r5 rooting guide to do Step 1 of the rooting.
That will give you a basic ROM to work with, with root capability.
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Well, I installed RUU with Hboot 0.80.. And then innstalled updates.... How noob is that?! Just asking..

Blubba10 said:
Well, I installed RUU with Hboot 0.80.. And then innstalled updates.... How noob is that?! Just asking..
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I don't fully understand what you mean but when you have that kind of USB-brick that I have you need a rooted phone to fix it and the old way of rooting a Desire where you don't need it plugged to the computer can only root phones with 'HBOOT 0.80' or lower, the 'unrEVOked' way of rooting a Desire can be used on phones with newer bootloaders but need 'USB Debugging' which can't be used when a USB-brick is in play.
This is what you call a catch22 .
I have now seen a thread where a dude fixed a USB-brick on a non-rooted phone but the exploit that was needed is nowhere to be found. Well, well the hunt is on.

the easiest way to downgrade.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768256

mariosraptor said:
the easiest way to downgrade.
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This might come of as being rude but thats not my intention but I have several thread on diffrent forums out about my issue and most of the answers I recieve is from people that doesn't read my first post.
I cant use that downgrade tool since I don't have any contact with my phone through the usb cable.

if you use a card reader to put the PB99 file on the root of your sd card? boot into hboot it will recognize the PB file and prompt for doangrade.
no need to be rude as no intention were to make you feel offended.
if it is of no help no hard feelings,
cheer up and have nice holidays and a Happy New Year!!!
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This might come of as being rude but thats not my intention but I have several thread on diffrent forums out about my issue and most of the answers I recieve is from people that doesn't read my first post.
I cant use that downgrade tool since I don't have any contact with my phone through the usb cable.
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I'm just a bit tired of working with this **** all weekend and answering in my ' cry for help threads' with I don't have root so I cant do that or I don't have a usb connection so I cant do that.
For the USB-brick fix to work I need root and for the downgrade to work I need a connection, it's just one way around my problem which seem to work but I only get 'permission denied' or 'that location is nonexistent'.
If anyone with more knowhow than me wants to take a look, the only thing that would actually fix my issue is here.

My meaning was to say that I think i have the same usb-brick as you (phone is now sent in for repair). It was rooted, but I unrooted it to hboot 0.80 and innstalled updates, wich resulted in hboot 0.93 in hope for it to fix itself. It didnt. As you say, you need root to fix brick. The only solution wich seems to work is this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879068.. It seems to work for some people, not for me... And not for you as well, if i understand your latest reply correctly..

Yeah that's one of the fix I have tried.
It's kind of strange that that doesn't work, cause we should be able to write to that folder but for me it's like it isn't there at all. I checked my spelling and checked with 'androlib' that the working folder for 'Android Terminal Emulator' was in fact 'jackpal.androterm.

SUCCESS!!!!
I finally found a terminal that could give me enough "root" to use the exploit that gave me enough "root" to flash the fix. My phone is fully working now. Time to root the sucker again .

Freddan80 said:
SUCCESS!!!!
I finally found a terminal that could give me enough "root" to use the exploit that gave me enough "root" to flash the fix. My phone is fully working now. Time to root the sucker again .
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Woooow man tell me how you did it imediately i have the 100% exact same problem as you did...tried update.zip, signature error, tried exploit with Terminal Emulator, no premissions...pleaaase tell me how you did it i am really desperate

godina said:
Woooow man tell me how you did it imediately i have the 100% exact same problem as you did...tried update.zip, signature error, tried exploit with Terminal Emulator, no premissions...pleaaase tell me how you did it i am really desperate
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I used 'Better Terminal Emulator' never could get 'Android Terminal Emulator' to work.
I then used the commands given in the link I posted but instead of using 'data/data/jackpal.androidterm/*', I used '/data/data/*.
and then I did what the other thread said, made them executableand ran the exploit and then flashed my modified USB-brick fix.

Omg omg omg this could really be it i will try it asap, will post how it went...and does your bt, radio and usb all work?
Edit: where did you get this "Better Terminal Emulator" and how did you install it? I tried looking in market but didnt found tthis app

here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10058480#post10058480.
godina said:
Omg omg omg this could really be it i will try it asap, will post how it went...and does your bt, radio and usb all work?
Edit: where did you get this "Better Terminal Emulator" and how did you install it? I tried looking in market but didnt found tthis app
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Ok I give up
Tried to download Better Terminal Emulator Magic, but it has been removed from market, looked for Pro version, cant download because there is no paid app support in Slovenia, so I can not download any paid app...
Is there any way for me to get this Better Terminal Emulator or will I just have to send the phone to repairs?

godina said:
Is there any way for me to get this Better Terminal Emulator or will I just have to send the phone to repairs?
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You can obtain a copy here, but I'm not to sure about support.

So need help perm rooting

Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.

James_Caliber said:
Okay I have a G2, just got it and I need to perm root it. I looked at the sticky guide but most of the links aren't loading for me, don't know why, either thread isn't there or link expired or w/e. I don't know, but I need some help.
First, how do I find out if I have 1.72 or an earlier version
Second, do I use "rage"? method or VISIONary and what's the latest version of visionary?
Third, about how long does the process take?
Any help is appreciated.
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Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.

KoolKidsKlub said:
Every thing you need to know about rooting is in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision just start reading from Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD or you can read the whole page. Don't use VISIONary, you have a chance of getting stuck in a boot loop, use Rage and GFree. You'll need the android SDK to get ADB. I'm not sure how long rooting takes, I haven't done it yet as I don't have my G2 until next week but I have been reading about root for the past week. From what I know, 1.72 is only if you have a Desire Z. If you have any more questions, I'm sure me or another member can answer you.
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Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading

James_Caliber said:
Do you know what the 1.72 # refers to? Is it the build number or something else?
Thanks a lot for your help though. I'll start reading
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If you have a Tmobile G2 (from your first post, I assume you do) you don't need to worry about 1.72 it for the Desire Z. There are three methods to root with, them being Visionary, Rage, gfree. Gfree by far has caused the least amount of problems. If you know ADB rooting should be pretty simple, just follow the wiki on rooting with gfree. If your not familiar with ADB, there are methods to root without having to use it. But its always good and recommended to have it installed and running. There are guide here to help walk you thru it, but if for some reason its to difficult or you don't quite understand it, like I said there are methods to root with out it. There is a modified way to run gfree with your home computer and terminal emulator on your phone. Also the visionary method too, now many people have had problems with visionary, I'm not one of them, it is how I rooted my phone, but I can't stress the importance of reading and putting the time into understanding what you are and want to do to modify your phone, far to many people act before understanding and run into many problems including bricking there phones, I know some of the threads are really long in this forum but that's no excuse, whenever I try something new I read the entire thread first start to finish because any problems you may have, the solution has probably already been givin somewhere in the thread. There is no rush to jump into something you don't understand, my suggestion is to invest the time to read and understand how to root you phone first.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.

blackknightavalon said:
Even if you root using rage, you can still install and use gfree on your phone. I can confirm that it works.
Just stay away from Visionary.
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This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.

boost3d23 said:
This.
This is my first Android phone and I was able to follow the Wiki and root it pretty easily. The only part I didnt do was installing the Engineering Hboot. Just cause it is labeled as optional and unnecessary and the warning about bricked phones scared me away from it.
This ADB Guide for Noobs was pretty helpful in the process too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865685
With that link and the Wiki your all set.
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You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.

blackknightavalon said:
You're missing out with the engineering bootloader. You'll have more recovery options with it installed.
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I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.

boost3d23 said:
I might install it later on, if that is possible and wont cause issues.
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Yeah that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to root the phone then when I feel more comfortable, I'm going to flash the engineering HBOOT. It's not that I'm scared, well I sorta am but I would rather not do something that isn't necessary. I'm coming from a rooted G1 so I know what it does and everything, I just don't think its necessary. The way I look at is is this, if you flash the HBOOT then your a lot safer because you can use fastboot flash to save your self from a semi-brick, but at the same time, flashing the HBOOT is also dangerous because you can brick your phone beyond repair.

*bump*
Sorry guys, I know this is an old thread, but isn't it better to post on something existing rather than creating a new thread? Hopefully I'm right...
Anyhow, I'm a Sprint convert and I now have the G2. Rooting the Samsung Epic I had was super easy, because I downloaded a one-click script that did everything for me. However, I'm fairly tech-savvy and accomplished just about everything for the rooting procedures using gfree and rage.
However, when I use gfree_verify, I get the message 'verify could not initialize the device!'. I think I run into my problem when I get to this part:
# /data/local/tmp/root
# sync
when I run the first line, I get a message about file existing that it says to expect... but it also says that "the rest of the script should still run ok". Well, after I get the file existing message, it goes back to the prompt. If there was a script that ran after that message, wouldn't I see other messages before it returned to the prompt?
I hope I'm making sense... and I hope I posted this in the right place. I'm dying to get a Sense ROM on my phone, but I need to get some sleep for work tomorrow. Any help that everyone could provide would be EXTREMELY appreciated Thanks so much!!
...EDIT...
Apparently, despite my lack of luck with verification, root is in place in my phone and has stayed after reboot. I've flashed clockwork and have used Superuser access... all seems to be well! Thanks anyway