As said in title, I have a problem after updating to Gingerbread. In battery use it says that Dialer is using about 20% of battery. Does anyone else have this problem and are there any solutions for it?
I have this problem too, i opened another thread, btw i made a factory reset but the problem is still present.
I think that there aren't solution now, because htc in this new 2.3.3 rom change the radio,
i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is any improvement for you.
sedatif781 said:
i forced mine to only wcdma mode and disabled always-on mobile data.also i disabled best wi-fi performance when wifi is enabled.also when mobile data is switched on, i turn off wifi and vice versa. far now it is much better. if anyone do like me, pls tell me if is there any improvement
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Perhaps leaving wcda always active will consume more than ever to leave gsm mode?
However disabling always-on mobile data in 2g/3g settings menu,your apps and widgets are updated automatically?
when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
sedatif781 said:
when i leave only wcdma, i think will consume less power because it didnt try always and always to switch to better signal (from 2g to 3g and vice versa).i have only weather auto update on and i didnt noticed any change .
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Now i have only GSM mode, btw i can try to disable always on mobile data keep active in the 2g/3g menu and hope that this radio will consume less power.
I thought maybe the problem could be caused by a bug introduced with the new management processes that consume the battery, also because there is the graphic that was not there.
Let me explain:
The details of the processes that consume battery is correct because if I go on "DIALRE" the voice tells me that the CPU has been used only 6 minutes in 20 hours, so little, but shows the % is too high.
Same thing with regard to the voice "Telephone inactive", says it's been idle for less than 20 minutes that I used. but the % is too low.
So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
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jackalac said:
So it could be a bug that we see that the phone uses too much and we blame the new radio?
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I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
scungilli said:
Hi everyone
Dialer uses much battery, because it's using the sensors all the time (even with screen off/standby).
You can check that for example in "Battery History for GB" app (you'll find it on xda...)
I wrote some posts about this issue on the ARHD thread in DHD Development (just search for "Dialer" on the thread).
So far no one has a solution... so I guess it's a bug HTC build in... :/
If any one has a solution or a fix please post it
EDIT:
I tried 3 different radios... I had that problem with each one of them.
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So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
jackalac said:
So, the problem is the official 2.3.3 not the new radio?
Btw, also with dialer voice at 30% of consume, i have 28% of battery available now and the last unplugged was 1g and 15 hours ago, with medium use,.
Whit the 2.2.1 with the same use, my best was 1g and 6h.
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Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
scungilli said:
Seems like it's a problem with the official release.
If you google the issue you'll find people with other phones solving the issue by setting the "Turn to mute" feature to off...
Problem with this: We don't have that setting :/
For me Dialer doubles the standby battery use... so battery life is good, but could be much better.
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So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
jackalac said:
So we can not do anything to solve this problem? We have to wait a patch from google? HTC will not do it then maybe never or maybe the 2.3.4
Maybe in the other Roms, cooker have solved this problem..
can we turn off the proximity sensor?
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I think the problem is within the htc dialer app, so htc has to fix it...
Does anyone know if the "turn to mute" option was there in the official froyo roms?
Maybe it's possible to edit the setting manually then and switch off the feature in the settings file by copying the relevant settings string from the old config...
EDIT:
Maybe it's possible to use the old dialer app from froyo in GB...
Somebody has to try ^^
EDIT2:
Turning off the proximity sensor completely would resolve in dropping calls with your ear, because display doesn't turn off when you move your phone to your ear ^^
Update:
Installing HTCDialer.apk from ARHD 3.7 on 5.1.4 does not work...
Same issue for me : the dialer is supposed to be using 10 to 20% of battery, eventhough it only used the CPU for less than one minute...
I'm quite sure this wasn't the case on Froyo...
I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
jackalac said:
I am investigating this problem, the point is that I have heard other people with the desire hd on an Italian forum, and apparently almost no one experience this problem.
I'm thinking that maybe the problem is due to some app, widget, or maybe some setting of the carrier.
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I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking).
I can also confirm that the bug was not in froyo but in many gingerbread Roms on different phones. So maybe a general bug in gingerbread. If only someone could figure out a way to disable the "turn to mute" feature.
After what I read that should solve our problem...
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scungilli said:
I made a fullwipe twice and reflashed the rom, I restored nothing, really nothing - and the issue was there.
So it must have something to do with provider or maybe the hardware (some components from another manufacturer than most phones?) I don't now. Maybe just an ultra rare random bug in the original firmware, that happens when your IMEI starts with what not (just joking). No clue really :/
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Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
jackalac said:
Or maybe just those who are not experiencing the issue is why does not realize it because they use the phone so heavy, and more % are given by other processes, so that they see "dialer" is a 6% 7% max.
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Yeah could be... We need to turn this feature off, my best guess at the moment...
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Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
samsenteur said:
Mine is around 11% at the end of the day, but I only made a 1mn call...
And it was always nearly 0% in Froyo...
Is it increasing with phone call lengh?
I'm also wondering if this is just a new way to compute the battery usage : maybe Froyo wasn't able to "see" this usage, so the percentage was allocated to other items, but in this case the battery lengh would be the same. Just the ratio per item would be different. What do you think?
My screen battery usage was around 80% before upgrading, now it is only 58%, Dialer increased, system increased, but I'm under the feeling that my battery still last the same time...
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Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
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My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
scungilli said:
Hi,
as far as I noticed it's not increasing with call lenght.
It actually starts to drain battery, when you make a one second call, then it uses the sensors the whole time.
If you reboot your phone and don't start the dialer or take a call, then it will not drain your battery.
That leads to my conclusion, that it is a bug in the dialer, because it should'nt use the sensors when my phone is in standby overnight.
EDIT:
My battery life seems to have decreased comparing to froyo.
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I have the voice "dialer" with high % of consume also when removed from charge and I leave the dhd on the desk, inactive in standby, and I do not make any phone call.
That's why I say that I think the problem is not the proximity sensor problem, but maybe other.
However to me the battery lasts much longer but even with this problem, I can do at least 10 hours in more than Froyo with the same usage.
@ samsenteur: I asked on another Italian forum, and many users do not have this problem, perhaps because the % of telephone as it changes when the high screen and system are high, so with a heavy phone during the day.
Edit : scungilli Many thanks for your help and willingness to resolve that you giving ...
Hello Mates,
I am using Wildpuzzle ROM v0.8, which is having many problems in its stage.
The camera fails to operate sometimes. But I do managed to make it working using an external application.
The major issue remains of the BATTERY.
Its been a disaster for me to use it when EDGE 'on'. When the downloading is taking place, this phone starts draining the battery within 30sec for each percent. Presently i get the battery backup of around 120mins max on data usage.
One more issue lies in, the battery wont get charged beyond 71%. I need to reboot so that it shows somewhere more than 90%.
I have tried to reflash the v0.8 rom but facing similar problem again.
Will Radio update be a better option?
Can you recommend any better Sense Enabled Froyo?
Is this the bug in the ROM itself?
Help me, with your suggestions.
Thank You.
Recalibrate your battery. Just perform a search on XDA, there are many guides. It cant be a bug with WildPuzzle because I have personally tested it extensively, and this issue didnt exist.
Only after a fresh flash of a ROM, I get very bad battery life, but this is normal in all ROms I have tried. After 1-2 charge - discharge cycles, it fixes itself.
But because you are facing issues like it doesn't go beyond 71%, then jumps to 90% etc - Your battery definitely needs recalibration.
I am running 2.3.4 Revolution HD rom, the dialer is sucking 10% battery a day and this is for no seemingly valid reason. I read up on forum and it seems there is some issue with the sense dialer with no working solution. so here are my quiestions if you can answer them,
1) If I just download some dialer like Go Dialer, without uninstalling the default dialer will it still consume the battery??
2) If it is still going to use the battery then is there any way to remove just the sense dialer??
3) What are my other options??
Thanks in advance guys!
In my opinion removing the dialer won't solve your problems. I have been dealing with them a loooooong time. The problem is not the dialer itself but the sensors being constantly used. The dialer uses them quite often - as well as Sygic (navigation software), iOnRoad, Maxthon and a few other ones I forgot (basically every program using sensors could cause the same troubles).
"Battery History for GB" states that the dialer is using my sensors for 1d 15h 23m and the other programs used it for 19h 42m straight.
IonRoad didn't even run since Sunday but its still using the sensors.
A solution could be to stop the systems sensor usage after the program (which used them) has been closed. I thought I read about a fix in one of the custom kernels... but I can't find it anymore
Many called the battery usage displayed faulty - honestly I don't know if it's right or wrong... In my case that would be up to 40% of my 50% battery drainage - quite alot!
Nevertheless a fix for this would bring more battery power... and every additional minute would be highly appreciated by me
Try using a different ROM!!!
Hi there,
Recently I got a secondhand HTC wildfire buzz and the original battery had a remarkable short life. After + / - 6 hours was empty.... without touching the phone!.
I replaced the battery by a new one with slightly higher capacity (1500mah) but after approx. 7 hours this one is empty too!....without using the phone, I mean the phone was closed with the on off button, not used and checked after 7 hours
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Specs:
Android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.21
Build number 2.22.405.8
- Phone was connected to my local wifi
- Only app in background was What's app (didn't send or recieved messages)
- Killed rest of apps with "App Killer"
- Noticed a few processes with the app "OS monitor" and the process "Android-system" used between 8-20% CPU. And the process "System" about 2% CPU
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Kind regards,
thats strange.
diy3dm2 said:
Hi there,
Recently I got a secondhand HTC wildfire buzz and the original battery had a remarkable short life. After + / - 6 hours was empty.... without touching the phone!.
I replaced the battery by a new one with slightly higher capacity (1500mah) but after approx. 7 hours this one is empty too!....without using the phone, I mean the phone was closed with the on off button, not used and checked after 7 hours
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Specs:
Android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.21
Build number 2.22.405.8
- Phone was connected to my local wifi
- Only app in background was What's app (didn't send or recieved messages)
- Killed rest of apps with "App Killer"
- Noticed a few processes with the app "OS monitor" and the process "Android-system" used between 8-20% CPU. And the process "System" about 2% CPU
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Kind regards,
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you dont gave proper description. well yiu are new so i consider you don't know about rooting process and your phone is not rooted.
first of all install wakelock app check from playstore. i will give you a hint wats eating your battery. well on froyo 2.2. plenty of battery monitors are avaliable. at last and the best follow some rooting guides in wildfire fourms. they are sometimes confusing for new users . well follow a method to install recovery and get rooted. install a new rom and recalibrate your battery. its a file that somtime help users .
at last if you dont want to root. simply erase everything and reinstall everything. but i suggest you to get rooted and soff. because froyo users now can not download anything from playstore. google has dropped support of froyo...
sachoosaini said:
you dont gave proper description. well yiu are new so i consider you don't know about rooting process and your phone is not rooted.
first of all install wakelock app check from playstore. i will give you a hint wats eating your battery. well on froyo 2.2. plenty of battery monitors are avaliable. at last and the best follow some rooting guides in wildfire fourms. they are sometimes confusing for new users . well follow a method to install recovery and get rooted. install a new rom and recalibrate your battery. its a file that somtime help users .
at last if you dont want to root. simply erase everything and reinstall everything. but i suggest you to get rooted and soff. because froyo users now can not download anything from playstore. google has dropped support of froyo...
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I dont think that root is the answer here, also wiping battery stats from recovery does nothing except delete a batterystats file from the rom. no actual calibration happens. no need to rush off into s-off without a real need for it
diy3dm2 said:
Hi there,
Recently I got a secondhand HTC wildfire buzz and the original battery had a remarkable short life. After + / - 6 hours was empty.... without touching the phone!.
I replaced the battery by a new one with slightly higher capacity (1500mah) but after approx. 7 hours this one is empty too!....without using the phone, I mean the phone was closed with the on off button, not used and checked after 7 hours
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Specs:
Android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.21
Build number 2.22.405.8
- Phone was connected to my local wifi
- Only app in background was What's app (didn't send or recieved messages)
- Killed rest of apps with "App Killer"
- Noticed a few processes with the app "OS monitor" and the process "Android-system" used between 8-20% CPU. And the process "System" about 2% CPU
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Kind regards,
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To be honest with you friend it could be many things. ive seen many wildfires over the years that had massive battery drains just because they were old, with new batterys not really helping much. your device being on wifi is probably keeping it awake and not allowing for a deep sleep (which conserves more battery) if you go into wifi/advanced settings i think there is a option to have wifi always on during sleep. if that is ticked, then untick it and see if you gain any performance boosts. its also possible that your 3rd party battery may claim to be 1500 but it could be much lower. trusted brands are safer bets in these fields. also consider how you charge your battery, if you charge it excessively (much more that it needs, ie charged overnight while you sleep) then you could be causing permanent wear onto the battery.
as a last resort you could flash an android kernel that supports underclocking your cpu, that would increase your battery life but at the cost of performance. like the above user said try to install wakelock app and see if it pops up with anything useful but i don think it will
thanks
Thank you guys for the answers.
@sachoosaini
I did a successfull ROM flash on a HTC Prophet (QTEK S200) but that was a while ago.
@heavy_metal_man
I agree with you that it's hard to find the cause only with these info. Hard/software are very complex today. Yesterday I completely switched off Wifi but the results where the same.
I've noticed that the phone gets pretty warm while charging so perhaps that's the cause. I charging with a 5V 1.3 A usb charger.
Anyway, I'll try wakelock app to get some more info
Kind regards
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heavy_metal_man said:
I dont think that root is the answer here, also wiping battery stats from recovery does nothing except delete a batterystats file from the rom. no actual calibration happens. no need to rush off into s-off without a real need for it
To be honest with you friend it could be many things. ive seen many wildfires over the years that had massive battery drains just because they were old, with new batterys not really helping much. your device being on wifi is probably keeping it awake and not allowing for a deep sleep (which conserves more battery) if you go into wifi/advanced settings i think there is a option to have wifi always on during sleep. if that is ticked, then untick it and see if you gain any performance boosts. its also possible that your 3rd party battery may claim to be 1500 but it could be much lower. trusted brands are safer bets in these fields. also consider how you charge your battery, if you charge it excessively (much more that it needs, ie charged overnight while you sleep) then you could be causing permanent wear onto the battery.
as a last resort you could flash an android kernel that supports underclocking your cpu, that would increase your battery life but at the cost of performance. like the above user said try to install wakelock app and see if it pops up with anything useful but i don think it will
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diy3dm2 said:
Hi there,
Recently I got a secondhand HTC wildfire buzz and the original battery had a remarkable short life. After + / - 6 hours was empty.... without touching the phone!.
I replaced the battery by a new one with slightly higher capacity (1500mah) but after approx. 7 hours this one is empty too!....without using the phone, I mean the phone was closed with the on off button, not used and checked after 7 hours
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Specs:
Android 2.2.1
kernel 2.6.32.21
Build number 2.22.405.8
- Phone was connected to my local wifi
- Only app in background was What's app (didn't send or recieved messages)
- Killed rest of apps with "App Killer"
- Noticed a few processes with the app "OS monitor" and the process "Android-system" used between 8-20% CPU. And the process "System" about 2% CPU
I can not imagine that this is normal and I'm wondering what can be the cause of this problem?
Kind regards,
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