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I've done my searches here, and keep finding dead threads, or no real answers. My friend has an evo(me too, but I got mine rooted), and he wants to root. He is running 1.47 and hboot 0.79. I keep getting main version is older. I've used simpleroot to do this twice, so I know I'm using it correctly. Also switched SD cards. Another friend had the same thing, but his rooted. Is there anything I can do? Help me get root on his phone, and I'll donate a case of beer/dinner/whatever up to $20. First right answer gets it. Thanks! FOrgot to mention, I've been using simpleroot OTA, and it worked on mine and one another phone, but not this one
I had the same issue, when doing simple root it asks you to visit the flash website. When you do make sure to refresh the page again after the flash game loads. Once I did that I was able to fully root.
here this would work its way faster and easier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720565
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=F8UN6Z3V93DL6
jacc1234 said:
I had the same issue, when doing simple root it asks you to visit the flash website. When you do make sure to refresh the page again after the flash game loads. Once I did that I was able to fully root.
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Been down that road about twenty times. No dice. Thanks for the suggestion, though
jonathanflores: Forgot to mention, simpleroot is what I've been using. Doesn't work.
are you wanting to just get back to 1.32 or trying to root 1.47?
Yellowcard8992 said:
are you wanting to just get back to 1.32 or trying to root 1.47?
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I'm trying to gain root access for wifi tether. That's all that matters is wireless tether, and not paying $30 a month for it.
Make sure you wipe the phone and reset it back to stock before attempting the simple root method. he may have loaded something that is messing with the flash bug used to gain access.
Make sure you dont' get a write error on step 3 when it asks you to go to the flash site. If you do start at step 1 again. The flash part is the key since that's the exploit they're using to get the old HBoot onto the EVO.
I got a write error at first. I put back in my 8gb card formatted it, started from step 1 followed every step to a T and was fine.
jahouse said:
Make sure you wipe the phone and reset it back to stock before attempting the simple root method. he may have loaded something that is messing with the flash bug used to gain access.
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This was done multiple times. At least 8 times, and that's minimum
donatom3 said:
Make sure you dont' get a write error on step 3 when it asks you to go to the flash site. If you do start at step 1 again. The flash part is the key since that's the exploit they're using to get the old HBoot onto the EVO.
I got a write error at first. I put back in my 8gb card formatted it, started from step 1 followed every step to a T and was fine.
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Hmmm...I'll check. Thanks
samfreese said:
This was done multiple times. At least 8 times, and that's minimum
Hmmm...I'll check. Thanks
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The Write error in step 3 appears briefly in the command window that pops up and it still lets you hit enter and continue like it worked.
I had some issues on a friends evo with simpleroot. I found that the issue was not all files were being pushed properly to the device. I checked after step 1 (booting into Windows, checking the SD card.) I noticed that the flash file was not on the SD card some of the times. Check that, make sure you have all the files.
Once I verified that all the files were on there, it worked perfectly.
Phyllip J FRy said:
I had some issues on a friends evo with simpleroot. I found that the issue was not all files were being pushed properly to the device. I checked after step 1 (booting into Windows, checking the SD card.) I noticed that the flash file was not on the SD card some of the times. Check that, make sure you have all the files.
Once I verified that all the files were on there, it worked perfectly.
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That's a good piont the writing step in step 1 can take longer. You gotta make sure it showed everything go through. One file takes 5 minutes and shows nothing on the screen as it's copying. You may want to check the SD card afterwards that all the files it said it copied are present on the card.
Use the manual method I posted originally (simpleRoot is based off of it). It works, I've done 4 EVOs with it personally.
Have you tried Unrevoked3? unrevoked .com/recovery
Thanks for taking an interest in my problem and trying to help.
Here's what I've figured out. I tried doing Toast's root method for linux and the directions weren't idiot proof because I screwed them up. I've explained how far I've gotten in other threads. If that's relevant just ask and I'll explain exactly what I did.
Anyway my phone does the basics. It allows me to make phone calls, text, and look at the internet on the phone so this isn't an emergency but it I am worse off than I was before I tried to root because I can no longer use easytether.
I had no problem with easytether prior to the root attempt, and it still works when I hook it up with my wifes untampered evo. with my phone but with my wife's evo, I've never messed with that one, I have no trouble connecting with easy tether.
Some of the things I've noticed about the device since the attmept...
-I can't update to 2.2 via the OTA or any other method, my device says no updates are available.
-Simple root wasn't so simple, the phone never shut off and rebooted into boot screen like the red screen said it would in step 1.
How do I reset the device to the way it was the day it was purchased. I've got everything I need backed up. I'm ready to reset just tell me how.
Thanks.
Please?
I know it bothers people here when they think someone didn't research anything first but I really did. The problem was I'm on linux so most of the stuff I researched didn't seem to apply, not to mention I'm quite illiterate in the terminal... but working on it. I'd really like to get this phone back to stock so I can try again.
Can anyone help?
what ROM are you running? base on eclair 2.1 or froyo 2.2..
try this http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
They are the Stock Unmodified ROMs for your EVO 4G the first 3 are Eclair (2.1) and the last 2 are Froyo (2.2)
Just know that if you use any of this you will LOSE Root..
Hope it helps..
I recomend you try 1.47.651.1 first ...
Good Luck
hortstu said:
Thanks for taking an interest in my problem and trying to help.
Here's what I've figured out. I tried doing Toast's root method for linux and the directions weren't idiot proof because I screwed them up. I've explained how far I've gotten in other threads. If that's relevant just ask and I'll explain exactly what I did.
Anyway my phone does the basics. It allows me to make phone calls, text, and look at the internet on the phone so this isn't an emergency but it I am worse off than I was before I tried to root because I can no longer use easytether.
I had no problem with easytether prior to the root attempt, and it still works when I hook it up with my wifes untampered evo. with my phone but with my wife's evo, I've never messed with that one, I have no trouble connecting with easy tether.
Some of the things I've noticed about the device since the attmept...
-I can't update to 2.2 via the OTA or any other method, my device says no updates are available.
-Simple root wasn't so simple, the phone never shut off and rebooted into boot screen like the red screen said it would in step 1.
How do I reset the device to the way it was the day it was purchased. I've got everything I need backed up. I'm ready to reset just tell me how.
Thanks.
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I bet a friend told you about root without giving you all the details, right? Haha. Ok, back to business. Rooting will make it impossible to receive ota updates. This is not a problem, because devs post rooted ota updates that you can flash manually. As far as I know, root is 100% permanent, but you don't know the goods. First of all, search wireless tether root in market it should have a green wifi icon. Second, try some custom roms and themes. I bet you will cry when you see yourself asking to go back to stock....
jadehawk said:
what ROM are you running? base on eclair 2.1 or froyo 2.2..
try this http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
They are the Stock Unmodified ROMs for your EVO 4G the first 3 are Eclair (2.1) and the last 2 are Froyo (2.2)
Just know that if you use any of this you will LOSE Root..
Hope it helps..
I recomend you try 1.47.651.1 first ...
Good Luck
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I never got to the point where I could flash a ROM or got root. S was never off.
just in case it makes a difference.
firmware= 2.1-update1
baseband version= 1.39.00.04.26
kernel version= 2.6.29-a2443432
build#= 1.32.651.1 CL171253 test-keys
software#= 1.32.651.1
I think the rest is up to date.
I bet a friend told you about root without giving you all the details, right? Haha.
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Actually I'm a bit of a forum junkie and as soon as I got this phone I found the android forums and have spent a ton of time there trying to maximize the utility of this device. I've done the opposite.
Ok, back to business. Rooting will make it impossible to receive ota updates. This is not a problem, because devs post rooted ota updates that you can flash manually. As far as I know, root is 100% permanent, but you don't know the goods. First of all, search wireless tether root in market it should have a green wifi icon. Second, try some custom roms and themes. I bet you will cry when you see yourself asking to go back to stock....
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I only want to go back to stock so I can get rooted! I can't root because I can't get 2.2 so I can't use unrevoked 3.21. I can't use simple because of some problem I had with the toast linux method that seems to be screwing up everything since. I appreciate the input I hope I've explained myself better.
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Please?
I know it bothers people here when they think someone didn't research anything first but I really did. The problem was I'm on linux so most of the stuff I researched didn't seem to apply, not to mention I'm quite illiterate in the terminal... but working on it. I'd really like to get this phone back to stock so I can try again.
Can anyone help?
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Use this to go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
grouse130 said:
Use this to go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
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The problem is I don't think I'm rooted.I flashed pc36img.zip and never made it any further. Am I rooted. Do I need to undo this or can I do a hard reset?
grouse130 said:
Use this to go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
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OK so here's why I think I'm not rooted, when I follow step one of the detailed directions,
Power off the phone and reboot into the recovery by holding VOL DOWN + POWER until it boots to the white screen. Then select RECOVERY.
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I get a screen with an evo, a red triangle, and a red exclamation point.
Where do I go from here?
Any direction will be immensely appreciated.
To find out if you're rooted, simply try to run an app that requires root access. Try downloading Titanium back up, and as soon as you install it, hit the "Problem?" button on the lower right and install busybox. One of the first lines on the main screen of the app says:
Root access => OK (Busybox 1.16.0 from app)
If it does not say "root access => OK" and you cannot use the app, then you don't have root.
hortstu said:
OK so here's why I think I'm not rooted, when I follow step one of the detailed directions,
I get a screen with an evo, a red triangle, and a red exclamation point.
Where do I go from here?
Any direction will be immensely appreciated.
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From this screen, if you hold volume up and press the power key, it will take you to the hboot menu.
Have you flashed a recovery img?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
rugedraw said:
From this screen, if you hold volume up and press the power key, it will take you to the hboot menu.
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OK so I'm at the "hboot" screen.
Code:
Android system recovery <2e>
Use volume...
click power key...
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Then in yellow, below the device picture, triangle, and exclamation I have
Code:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command
Not sure where you're steering me rugedraw but thanks for the help...
hortstu said:
OK so I'm at the "hboot" screen.
Code:
Android system recovery <2e>
Use volume...
click power key...
reboot system now
apply sdcard:update.zip
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
Then in yellow, below the device picture, triangle, and exclamation I have
Code:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command
Not sure where you're steering me rugedraw but thanks for the help...
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To check if you are rooted. Download "Terminal Emulator" on the market. If it starts up and when it is done booting, you get a # prompt, you are rooted. If you get a $ prompt. You are not rooted.
You also do not have a custom recovery installed on your phone (the recovery screen you have is the stock one). Try finishing up the process by doing Toast part II -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835&highlight=Part-2
To find out if you're rooted, simply try to run an app that requires root access. Try downloading Titanium back up, and as soon as you install it, hit the "Problem?" button on the lower right and install busybox. One of the first lines on the main screen of the app says:
Root access => OK (Busybox 1.16.0 from app)
If it does not say "root access => OK" and you cannot use the app, then you don't have root.
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Finally went back and checked on the titanium backup download. When I first opened it I got the message that it didn't have root access. So I clicked on "problems?" and installed busy box. Now it says,
Root access v=> OK (BusyBox 1.16.0 from app
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Plus some other stuff... so I guess I have root but not S-off.
hecklbrg said:
To check if you are rooted. Download "Terminal Emulator" on the market. If it starts up and when it is done booting, you get a # prompt, you are rooted. If you get a $ prompt. You are not rooted.
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Should I still do this or is the info from titanium backup enough?
You also do not have a custom recovery installed on your phone (the recovery screen you have is the stock one). Try finishing up the process by doing Toast part II -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835&highlight=Part-2
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Yes I tried doing that but like I said I'm on a linux computer and had some trouble with the steps. What I'd really like to do is just go back to stock and try rooting with unrevoked 3.21.
My concern is that selecting factory reset from the hboot screen won't take me back there. If it did I could probably get the 2.2 update over the air, I suppose now I have to worry about getting this other update that everyone is talking about at the same time. Can I get 2.2 and avoid the update that came out last night? How.
Will a factory reset get me back to stock? I've already got everything backed up that matters.
Thanks for all the help.
OK...I think this should work for you:
go here and download the file on the page:
WRONG FILE>>>WILL FIND THE CORRECT ONE.
rename it update.zip and put it on the root of your SD card.
Boot into HBOOT then into recovery and go to apply update.zip -- choose the file you put on there.
let it run and you should have the stock non-rooted version of the 1st software release from sprint. from there you can update it as far as you want to root it the method of your choice.
hecklbrg said:
OK...I think this should work for you:
go here and download the file on the page:
WRONG FILE>>>WILL FIND THE CORRECT ONE.
rename it update.zip and put it on the root of your SD card.
Boot into HBOOT then into recovery and go to apply update.zip -- choose the file you put on there.
let it run and you should have the stock non-rooted version of the 1st software release from sprint. from there you can update it as far as you want to root it the method of your choice.
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Thanks hecklbrg,
I assume since I'm half rooted a factory reset won't get me there?
I'll wait for the link to that file...
if you put this on your card and run it from HBOOT...you will get a rooted version of the latest sprint OTA with a custom recovery and the latest radios.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791019
I'm still looking for a non-rooted version to run...but I would think this would work for you to get you the latest OTA in a rooted form.
Second thing is that I don't think you really screwed up your root process. You have only done part of the process and haven't installed a custom recovery. If this works for you, it will give you a custom recovery and you will have a fully rooted phone.
Hecklberg is right. I don't think you even need to rename it update.zip. If its a
pc36img.zip your hboot will automatically scan for it, find it and run it when you put it on your SD card and open hboot.
Also consider, I rooted my phone without any computer, all done from my Evo, using fastRX8 thread in here about how to root for newbies. It involves putting the files on your SD card, then installing terminal emulator from the market and typing a few commands to install flash_image, then custom recovery. You are root, just don't have flash image, custom recovery, and superuser yet. Basically toast part 2, it can be done with no computer, but same files.
Read real quick Whitslack thread on rooting, and fastrx8 thread, even just the 1st post, and it will make sense to you where you're at and what's left to do. You'll see how close you are.
Once root, and superuser installed, you won't need easy tether, Android wired tether is what I use (doesn't require installing any software on the host pc)
(Actually, if you use the threads I mentioned method, don't use the recovery amonra1.7.0.2, there's a newer one to download, its at 1.8 now, just Chang the recovery file name you type in terminal app accordingly-don't worry, it won't go thru if you do it wrong, but won't 'break' anything)
Hope any of this helps, but yeah, hecklberg is right too, just different methods. One requires no computer.
And yeah, with the devs around here, you don't need any Sprint OTAs, most of the time, they seem to have em available before Sprint releases them. These guys are good.
scottspa74 and hecklbrg,
Thanks for the help. I havent had time to look at this or act on it over the last 24 hours but I will try to get to it tonight and let you know how it works. Sounds like you've gotten me out of the woods.
Thanks again.
I think it is $ if you are rooted and# if you aren't because I know I'm rooted and it shows money signs, unless terminal emulator is messed up,i have nvr used it.
hecklbrg said:
To check if you are rooted. Download "Terminal Emulator" on the market. If it starts up and when it is done booting, you get a # prompt, you are rooted. If you get a $ prompt. You are not rooted.
You also do not have a custom recovery installed on your phone (the recovery screen you have is the stock one). Try finishing up the process by doing Toast part II -- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701835&highlight=Part-2
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Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
evohack99 said:
I think it is $ if you are rooted and# if you aren't because I know I'm rooted and it shows money signs, unless terminal emulator is messed up,i have nvr used it.
Sent from my netarchy_toast, froyo beast of a machine evo!
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Nope you are incorrect my friend.. try typing " su " on the terminal emulator see if you get the "#" ... # ==> Root and $ ===> User(I Think) But I know for sure "#" is root access
Force update + Re-Root Instructions!
Disclaimer: This is aimed at those of us who used travisjames' method of downgrading to stock. brian6685 confirmed this WILL work with a new phone running stock. I am not responsible for you bricking your phone, but there have been no reports of any bricking with this that I am aware of.
I don't know if many of you are running a software number starting with 1.13, but if you are before you follow these instructions you MUST first follow the "downgrade" instructions (actually an upgrade for you)
The downgrade post can be found here.
First: Forcing the Update
1. download this file save this as PD15IMG.zip
* This is not the same file as in the downgrading instructions!
2. reboot into bootloader and flash this update
* for me Wi-Fi stopped working at this point and my 3g/4g was acting funky
3. This is going to appear as if no updates were made when you reboot, but you will now be able to follow the root instructions in this thread perma root guide to get S-OFF
4. download Clockwork Mod, and The OTA
5. install the clockwork recovery (to do this because my 3g/4g was acting up I dialed *#*#INFO#*#* and in the phone info settings I set it to GSM only) then flash the update and you will have 2.2.1 and full working WIFI... also at this point if you did set it to GSM Only go back in and change it back to WCDMA preferred
**The big problem is wifi will not work after step 2 which is why I included the web downloads for clockwork rom... I used ADB to install them, but if you have astro or something similar you can get them installed that way too... Another way to fix this is to download the broadcom kernel module and insmod it... the reason for this is when you do the update off of the img it's just loading the system files and not running the patches against them. ie kernel gets updated but modules aren't applied
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Second: Re-Rooting
This was solved by following Grankin's instructions for fixing root and su after a flash... This requires uninstalling superuser and visionary then following thise steps. The referenced file is here and the original post about this is here
1. Using Explorer navigate to the root of your sdk. Hold shift and right mouse click on the tools folder. Select "Open command window here".
2. Type "adbbat" + enter. Wait till the batch file finishes.
3. Disconnect your phone from the PC.
4. Open terminal emulator on the phone and type "/data/local/rage" + enter. Wait for "Forked XXXXXXXX children" to appear and then close the terminal.
**Just ran through this again... the program you should use is "Android Terminal Emulator" the one labeled just "Terminal Emulator" repeatedly force closes...
5. Start terminal back up. It should force close.
6. Start terminal back up, again. This time it should stay open and you should have a "#" prompt instead of a "$" prompt. Then type "/data/local/temp.sh.
7. When the script finishes run /data/local/rage again and sit tight. The phone should start acting weird and do a soft reboot. Then right after everything loads it should do a hard reboot. After the hard reboot reboot and check S.(If it doesn't do the two reboots just reboot into hboot yourself after rage finishes with the "forked xxxxxxxx children" message.
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**When I did this on step 4 I had to go into settings>applications>manage applications>Terminal Emulator and Force Stop because it was not force closing, but when I did I had the "#" prompt when I reopened terminal then it worked as advertised
**If you experience force closes of sense after updating to 2.2.1 run the fix permissions from clockwork recovery and it should fix it. If it is still happening do a factory reset and continue from there.
**For you linux folks here's a little script to replace the adbbat.bat file. adbbat.sh I tested this and it moves all the files and chmods properly.
Credit goes to travisjames for figuring out how to downgrade to stock and grankin01's post about using rage to root when visionary is having issues.
Great find man! Hopefully this will work on all the pre-OTA devices and everyone can have root utopia!
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
I'd love to try this, but I don't see where the OTA plays a part here? May give it a shot when I get off work tonight.
grankin01 said:
Great find man! Hopefully this will work on all the pre-OTA devices and everyone can have root utopia!
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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Thanks man, I'm here to help if anyone has questions... I spent about a week waiting for someone smarter than me to figure it out... I have a little linux experience (I run a few servers for fun), but didn't think I would be able to figure this out... turned out it really wasn't too hard... I was about to try the rage thing when I came home today, but someone beat me to it and posted a link to your post, and that was the last piece of the puzzle.
I'd love to try this, but I don't see where the OTA plays a part here? May give it a shot when I get off work tonight.
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the first file you're downloading is actually the image files from the OTA, this updates some files but doesn't do a full system patch. The thing it does update is the kernel, which allows you to use the original S-OFF method. Once you're S-Off you can install clockwork and flash the actual OTApkg.zip through clockwork's recovery. Then you have to reroot using rage because for some reason visionary thinks it's already rooted and su won't work...
Thanks alot man! I have a pre-ota device and im gonna give it a shot in a few minutes to see if it works. Ill let you know soon!
I am on a pre-ota device, i followed the instructions, and now I am s-off wow thanks alot man! Im gonna do the rest and get clockwork installed and install the update
Okay so everything went successfully. Wifi working again and everything works. I am on the second part now to re-root. I am using linux..... that adbbat is for windows...... any suggestions?
brian6685 said:
Okay so everything went successfully. Wifi working again and everything works. I am on the second part now to re-root. I am using linux..... that adbbat is for windows...... any suggestions?
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VirtualBox? ... I kid I kid . Just open up adbbat in a text editor and run the commands by hand I'd say.
brian6685 said:
Okay so everything went successfully. Wifi working again and everything works. I am on the second part now to re-root. I am using linux..... that adbbat is for windows...... any suggestions?
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I can either wip up a script or you can "edit" the batch file and use the commands inside it manually in your shell.
Edit: Genocaust beat me to it.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
grankin01 said:
I can either wip up a script or you can "edit" the batch file and use the commands inside it manually in your shell.
Edit: Genocaust beat me to it.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!
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Oh, i see Ill do it thanks lol
Okay, everything is done and everything works s-off and superuser working correctly. Man ive been waiting for this lol. Thanks alot guys this was a huge help! You can put in the OP that it works for phones pre-ota, because i can confirm
brian6685 said:
Okay so everything went successfully. Wifi working again and everything works. I am on the second part now to re-root. I am using linux..... that adbbat is for windows...... any suggestions?
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the syntax should be the same... just add #!/bin/bash to the top and I bet it will work
stupid question but how do you flash through bootloader?
PolishDude said:
stupid question but how do you flash through bootloader?
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The first file you download which is called manualota.zip you need to rename it PD15IMG.zip and place it on your sdcard. When bootloader starts it will automatically look for a file with this name and flash from it.
HTC Sense
Hey guys dumb question, im new to android. I like adroid so far, but is flashig the same as Windows Phone? Hold down (Power) Button + Vol Down to enter flash mode. Oh and this phone is cool, but how can i get the actual HTC Sense i dont like My sense, its to girlee.
Thanks in advance.
Is their a way I can force 2.2.1 update without rooting?
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
hopefully we now have a way for ppl without the ota to update and root maybe we will now get some rom devolopment !!!!!!!!!! thank u for this cant wait for a vanilla android rom.shouldnt be to long now everyone can have root access
cdw9800 said:
Is their a way I can force 2.2.1 update without rooting?
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you won't have root if you follow the force update method and not the re-rooting instructions, but if you do decide to root later visonary won't work you will have to use the rage method
Working on pre-OTA
Just would like to say thank you very much for this guide and confirm that it is working on pre-OTA.
Thank you!
Ok stupid question, after this step:
"3. This is going to appear as if no updates were made when you reboot, but you will now be able to follow the root instructions in this thread perma root guide to get S-OFF"
Should we just have S-OFF, and therefore need to use temproot to install clockwork and such, or should we have S-OFF and permaroot
edit: Nvm, the answer to the above is you should have S-OFF and Permaroot at this step, also I'm a complete dink...you shouldn't even need root to install clockwork, it's just a regular apk. It appears you CANNOT use VISIONary R12 for this, you have to use R11.
Hello!
I am quite new to the forums as far as posting so don't kill me. I had rooted my previous slide before using one of the mac methods and I was happily running CM7. But a week or so ago my phone just stopped responding (buttons didn't work, unresponsive touch, even after going back to stock). So i sent the phone back to tmobile and got a new one. I am unfortunately having trouble rooting this slide with the Mac OSX methods posted. This is a new slide (opposed to the old one which didn't have a slash between the 0 on the keyboard) and many of the methods are for the old one. I have used almost every method there is out there and I have run into snags which are unfortunately unavoidable for me. Is there a set method on how to root and mount clockwork recovery for the new slide on the mac? or is it an existing one that would have to be modified, i.e. adding ./ before every command or something completely different?
Thanks!
Could you further explain the errors you're running into?
for one, i cannot get the phone to be discovered in recovery mode in the terminal using the loop.sh, it only shows it as offline. That is the big thing that is stopping me right now. i used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705695 method the first time and it worked flawlessly, however the link for the files are dead and I cant find them anywhere. also the new slide method ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020 ), really doesn't give clear instruction on how to run clockwork
DanDigity said:
for one, i cannot get the phone to be discovered in recovery mode in the terminal using the loop.sh, it only shows it as offline. That is the big thing that is stopping me right now. i used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705695 method the first time and it worked flawlessly, however the link for the files are dead and I cant find them anywhere. also the new slide method ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020 ), really doesn't give clear instruction on how to run clockwork
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Here's a link to the latest Mac android sdk: http://dl.google.com/android/android-sdk_r10-mac_x86.zip
as for the Slide Root package, I couldn't tell you, since I don't know what the rooter initially had in the folder.
The new rooting method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=754020 , should work on mac OS just fine. The bit in the end about clockwork recovery is talking about s-off, which you don't need. But, without s-off, you cannot permanently flash clockwork, you would have to reboot into the stock recovery and manually flash clockwork update.zip unless you used rom manager to reboot into recovery.
In other words, following the steps on the New Root Method by nbetcher will work just fine for rooting your phone. If you don't feel comfortable yet working in areas of your phone that could potentially brick your phone if handled poorly, then don't bother with s-off and just use rom manager to reboot into clockwork recovery. It flashes it for you, so you don't have to manually go through the update.zip thing in the stock recovery.
I hope that helps, let me know if it wasn't explained clearly enough, I can try to better explain it.
Unfortunately for the guide you sent me, I type in the last command which is ./exploid and unfortunately it ultimately fails, for example it says i am supposed to see a # sign, but rather i get a $ sign. I have tried numerous times and it just keeps failing. I would of replied in that post but unfortunately i need 10 posts to do that
I have also used the non pc method which is listed in the n00b's faq, and when i come to the last step, I get a permission denied for misc
DanDigity said:
Unfortunately for the guide you sent me, I type in the last command which is ./exploid and unfortunately it ultimately fails, for example it says i am supposed to see a # sign, but rather i get a $ sign. I have tried numerous times and it just keeps failing. I would of replied in that post but unfortunately i need 10 posts to do that
I have also used the non pc method which is listed in the n00b's faq, and when i come to the last step, I get a permission denied for misc
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Does the ./exploid fail give you an error message? Or does it simply just fail? I don't have a mac, nor did I ever have to root my phone as it was given to me pre-rooted, so I can't be of much more help.
For Gizmoe first time post, thanks for your info I found it with a google search, I was trying to follow your suggestion to FiFa_JockeR, but HTC does not have my phone on their web site. Can you please try to help me reset my phone somehow?
I have a HTC Incredible (ADR6300) and I just want to start over with this phone. Verizon stores no help, HTC customer service no help. They try to do what I’ve done already, “a factory reset”. But it just does not reset! with or without the SD card. This all started with the force closes on a few apps. Then I thought I would delete allot of apps just for the heck of it, then I ran into another problem. I can delete an app(s) while the phone is on but when the phone is rebooted or turned off then on again the deleted app(s) reappears. So I can’t delete apps and I can’t reset my phone. It’s exactly the same as FiFa_JockeR (just like the pictures) only we have different phones from HTC. PS phone has never been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458066&page=2
For screen shots(the pictures) see first part of this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458066
Then I tried this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2215233
I downloaded and flashed? I put it on my formatted SD card and it loaded
I was excited because things were loading in hboot the file PB31IMG.zip
“Flash latest ruu thru hboot: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images...15/PB31IMG.zip”
anyway
now it takes about 4 minutes to get past the eye portion of the bootup, then I get “sorry the application bla bla bla has stopped unexpectedly.
please try again. this happens to what must be every app on my phone.
even if I go to settings I get the same thing “sorry the application.........
I just don’t know what to do.
I think the post by cmlusco on Re: [Q] Return to stock might be what I need but I really don’t understand it. I only downloaded the last file because I thought it was all I needed.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
and cmlusco thank you for your Post
ps guess you figured out I’m a nube
sorry if I’m not posting in the right place.
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
For Gizmoe first time post, thanks for your info I found it with a google search, I was trying to follow your suggestion to FiFa_JockeR, but HTC does not have my phone on their web site. Can you please try to help me reset my phone somehow?
I have a HTC Incredible (ADR6300) and I just want to start over with this phone. Verizon stores no help, HTC customer service no help. They try to do what I’ve done already, “a factory reset”. But it just does not reset! with or without the SD card. This all started with the force closes on a few apps. Then I thought I would delete allot of apps just for the heck of it, then I ran into another problem. I can delete an app(s) while the phone is on but when the phone is rebooted or turned off then on again the deleted app(s) reappears. So I can’t delete apps and I can’t reset my phone. It’s exactly the same as FiFa_JockeR (just like the pictures) only we have different phones from HTC. PS phone has never been rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458066&page=2
Then I tried this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2215233
I downloaded and flashed? I put it on my formatted SD card and it loaded
I was excited because things were loading in hboot the file PB31IMG.zip
“Flash latest ruu thru hboot: http://dinc.does-it.net/Stock_Images...15/PB31IMG.zip”
anyway
now it takes about 4 minutes to get past the eye portion of the bootup, then I get “sorry the application bla bla bla has stopped unexpectedly.
please try again. this happens to what must be every app on my phone.
even if I go to settings I get the same thing “sorry the application.........
I just don’t know what to do.
I think the post by cmlusco on Re: [Q] Return to stock might be what I need but I really don’t understand it. I only downloaded the last file because I thought it was all I needed.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
and cmlusco thank you for your Post
ps guess you figured out I’m a nube
sorry if I’m not posting in the right place.
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The incredible (ADR6300) is on the www.htcdev.com/bootloader unlocker site, under HTC Droid Incredible *. Best bet is to unlock and flash a recovery, then from recovery do a full wipe. That is if it lets you, i have a feeling you will get errors formating both /data and /cache. If so its pretty much unfixable. There is a mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175346, that will mount /data and /cache to seperate partitions on your sdcard. This makes the phone a little slower, especially booting. But a slow phone is better than no phone, if you cant get a new one. If you need any help just post back.
Does this mean I'm rooting my phone?
cmlusco said:
The incredible (ADR6300) is on the www.htcdev.com/bootloader unlocker site, under HTC Droid Incredible *. Best bet is to unlock and flash a recovery, then from recovery do a full wipe. That is if it lets you, i have a feeling you will get errors formating both /data and /cache. If so its pretty much unfixable. There is a mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175346, that will mount /data and /cache to seperate partitions on your sdcard. This makes the phone a little slower, especially booting. But a slow phone is better than no phone, if you cant get a new one. If you need any help just post back.
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Does this mean I'm rooting my phone?
Will I be putting myself at higher risk of Radio Frequency?
I appreciate the time you’ve put aside to respond to me. Thank you
I will try to follow your directions and will let you know what happens.
I’m at the HTCdev site and reading up on how to do the unlocking.
Thanks
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
Does this mean I'm rooting my phone?
Will I be putting myself at higher risk of Radio Frequency?
I appreciate the time you’ve put aside to respond to me. Thank you
I will try to follow your directions and will let you know what happens.
I’m at the HTCdev site and reading up on how to do the unlocking.
Thanks
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Yes you are rooting your phone. Im not sure what you mean by higher risk of radio frequency? If your on hboot 1.02 or 1.07, you can skip the ruu bootloader update part of the htcdev site and proceed to the next step.
yes I have 1.07 so I can skip the ruu bootloader update
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Yes you are rooting your phone. Im not sure what you mean by higher risk of radio frequency? If your on hboot 1.02 or 1.07, you can skip the ruu bootloader update part of the htcdev site and proceed to the next step.
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oops radio frequency I meant SAR values, and I don’t expect an answer for that. I read the attached paragraph on the HTC site and got concerned.
PS this phone is used for Wi-Fi only, no data plan.
Anyway back to the good stuff.
I’m attaching a picture of my hboot screen, so yes I have 1.07 so I can skip the ruu bootloader update part but I’m unsure how to proceed from here. Am I still rooting my phone? what’s next? I’m really nube at all of this. Will I be returning to the HTC site or somewhere else?
Thanks again for your time.
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
oops radio frequency I meant SAR values, and I don’t expect an answer for that. I read the attached paragraph on the HTC site and got concerned.
PS this phone is used for Wi-Fi only, no data plan.
Anyway back to the good stuff.
I’m attaching a picture of my hboot screen, so yes I have 1.07 so I can skip the ruu bootloader update part but I’m unsure how to proceed from here. Am I still rooting my phone? what’s next? I’m really nube at all of this. Will I be returning to the HTC site or somewhere else?
Thanks again for your time.
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At the bottom of the ruu update page there should be a proceed / continue button. Click on that and it should move on to having you get an identifier code from your phone, to send to htc.
At the bottom of the ruu update page
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At the bottom of the ruu update page there should be a proceed / continue button. Click on that and it should move on to having you get an identifier code from your phone, to send to htc.
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The ruu update page can you attach a link? I’m not sure where that is or what I am doing, What am I doing now flashing rom?
I don't even know what that means. If I’m doing it from the computer or from my SD card. Can you please clarify?
I read your post about using, “There is a mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2175346”, on the SD card”. Simply Amazing
Thanks
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
The ruu update page can you attach a link? I’m not sure where that is or what I am doing, What am I doing now flashing rom?
I don't even know what that means. If I’m doing it from the computer or from my SD card. Can you please clarify?
I read your post about using, “There is a mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2175346”, on the SD card”. Simply Amazing
Thanks
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And this is exactly why you need to read, and learn.
If You're New to Modding/Rooting, Read This First!
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
The ruu update page can you attach a link? I’m not sure where that is or what I am doing, What am I doing now flashing rom?
I don't even know what that means. If I’m doing it from the computer or from my SD card. Can you please clarify?
I read your post about using, “There is a mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2175346”, on the SD card”. Simply Amazing
Thanks
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It seems that htc has removed the ruu bootloader update part of the unlock process. Probably because the latest ota should make everyone have an unlockable hboot already. So just do all the steps 1 - 10.
You are not flashing a rom, at least not yet. A rom is basicly an opperating system like windows.
Right now you are getting an identifier token from your phone which you submit to htc in step 10. They will email you back another code with instructions, which you will enter into the phone using hboot and a cmd prompt on your pc.
Just follow all those steps on htcdev and then we will go from there. In your spare time you should read up on rooting and roms and custom recoveries, so that you have some clue of how your phones going to work once were done.
Here I am at HTCdev
cmlusco said:
It seems that htc has removed the ruu bootloader update part of the unlock process. Probably because the latest ota should make everyone have an unlockable hboot already. So just do all the steps 1 - 10.
You are not flashing a rom, at least not yet. A rom is basicly an opperating system like windows.
Right now you are getting an identifier token from your phone which you submit to htc in step 10. They will email you back another code with instructions, which you will enter into the phone using hboot and a cmd prompt on your pc.
Just follow all those steps on htcdev and then we will go from there. In your spare time you should read up on rooting and roms and custom recoveries, so that you have some clue of how your phones going to work once were done.
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Well here I am at HTCdev trying to do step 1, I Select my Device and click Begin Unlock Bootloader. Then I get this dialog box, “Do you wish to continue?” I click yes and nothing happens, I wait, and wait, then click no and it responds by going back to the prior page where you select your device. So I tried selecting other devices and none of them work, sounds like a problem on their site. So I’m at a stand still maybe you can try it and see if step 1 will work for you? by the way I only see 5 steps,like the Attached Thumbnail I uploaded in post #3. also must be a common problem for htcdev just google htcdev and see the results of autocomplete (Thumbnail).
Update 4/29/13: I think I found the 10 steps, checkout this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyRxI15CUnA
This is what i'm trying to do right?,he recommends getting SDK tools too, is this what I should do? In taking your advice to read up on... I googled "rooting and roms and custom recoveries" that's how I found the video.
Unfortunately I still get the same result at the HTCdev site, can you please see if you have the same issue I do at the HTCdev site?
Thanks
Token Submitted Successfully!
Here we go
I had to use Firefox browser instead of windows Internet Explorer 8
Now just waiting for the email
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Drivers from SDK Manager?
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
Here we go
I had to use Firefox browser instead of windows Internet Explorer 8
Now just waiting for the email
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Update to my last post. had to use a different email account in order to receive the unlock bootloader key file.
so now I have it, now and I think I need driver(s) because when the phone is in hboot and I plug it in to the computer via usb cable, the task bar shows Installing device driver software, but a couple of seconds later shows Device driver software was not successfully installed. Tried goggling around and found this http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/171178-64-bit-android-usb-drivers.html
I also have a Windows 7 64-bit system and not sure how to extract them out of the SDK Manager.
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
Update to my last post. had to use a different email account in order to receive the unlock bootloader key file.
so now I have it, now and I think I need driver(s) because when the phone is in hboot and I plug it in to the computer via usb cable, the task bar shows Installing device driver software, but a couple of seconds later shows Device driver software was not successfully installed. Tried goggling around and found this http://androidforums.com/incredible-all-things-root/171178-64-bit-android-usb-drivers.html
I also have a Windows 7 64-bit system and not sure how to extract them out of the SDK Manager.
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Here you go follow this http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install.
I'm ready for the next step
cmlusco said:
Here you go follow this http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/windows_hboot_driver_install.
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I'm ready to flash a recovery, then from recovery do a full wipe. That is if it lets me.
Thank you:good:
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
I'm ready to flash a recovery, then from recovery do a full wipe. That is if it lets me.
Thank you:good:
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Any luck?
I need your help to get the right recovery
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Any luck?
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No, I need your help with link(s) to where I need to go to get the right recovery like you did for the driver(s). Bam done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE
I don't want to waste time guessing things and messing up stuff with problematic recovery's. I need one that works even for the novice. I want to get my phone up and running. It's amazing I've come this far.
Thanks to you of course.
I could really use your guidance.
Thanks
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
No, I need your help with link(s) to where I need to go to get the right recovery like you did for the driver(s). Bam done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvazQUYG1kE
I don't want to waste time guessing things and messing up stuff with problematic recovery's. I need one that works even for the novice. I want to get my phone up and running. It's amazing I've come this far.
Thanks to you of course.
I could really use your guidance.
Thanks
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Download this http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/TWRP_2.5.0.0/recovery.img to your pc and place it in the same folder as fastboot.exe and the unlock_code.bin. Put the phone in fastboot mode. Open a cmd prompt in your pc and type
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
You should now have twrp recovery installed. To get to it pull the battery, reinsert, and then hold vol down and power untill hboot comes up. Then navigate to recovery and select it. Once in recovery select wipe and then advanced and select everything except sdcard and emmc, then swipe the bar to start the wipe. We will go from there depending on what happens.
Ready for the next step.
cmlusco said:
Download this http://dinc.does-it.net/Recoveries/TWRP_2.5.0.0/recovery.img to your pc and place it in the same folder as fastboot.exe and the unlock_code.bin. Put the phone in fastboot mode. Open a cmd prompt in your pc and type
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
You should now have twrp recovery installed. To get to it pull the battery, reinsert, and then hold vol down and power untill hboot comes up. Then navigate to recovery and select it. Once in recovery select wipe and then advanced and select everything except sdcard and emmc, then swipe the bar to start the wipe. We will go from there depending on what happens.
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Ready for the next step.
I'm attaching pictures of what has happened, worked flawless, excellent instructions, brief and concise. Bam!
Thank you :good:
PS just a note,for now I have not had a SD card installed.
HTC Incredible (ADR6300) said:
Ready for the next step.
I'm attaching pictures of what has happened, worked flawless, excellent instructions, brief and concise. Bam!
Thank you :good:
PS just a note,for now I have not had a SD card installed.
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Well it looks like everything wiped ok, your partitions are probably fine. So you can just flash a rom of your choosing. Check out the dev section, there are tons of roms there including stock rooted roms if you want to keep the original feel.
Should I install SuperSU?
cmlusco said:
Well it looks like everything wiped ok, your partitions are probably fine. So you can just flash a rom of your choosing. Check out the dev section, there are tons of roms there including stock rooted roms if you want to keep the original feel.
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1 first screen HTC Incredible
2 teamwin loading screen
3 teamwin main screen, to shut down, I tap reboot
4 at the Reboot Menu I select Power Off then....
5 No OS Installed, “Are you sure you wish to continue” and I Swipe to Power Off.
6 Then I see Install SuperSU, which Roots phone. Should I do this?
Should I install SuperSU?, I tap Do Not Install because I’m not sure what to do.
I want to install the operating system you have or a stock version, Touch Of Blue V3.0
At the dev site I was looking at kernel is that the same as rom?
Can you please guide me with links, let me know which way we are going and how to do it.
Thanks